its here, the second episode we go over how grand central started out with some of the early new york central locomotives ua-cam.com/video/gzlGhcm-ZgA/v-deo.html
Great video, love the Pennsy. As a matter of interest, diesel-electric locos also have an hour/starting rating and a continuous rating (the traction motors are electric after all) - in response to 8:20. 🙂
Thank you, at the moment im struggling for some pictures as alot of the pictures for new haven arent CC and it would be wrong of me to use their pictures without permission
Appreciated. I'm gonna get my new york central video out next and then we get to talk one of my favourite locomotives of all time GG1. Its gonna be a long episode about the GG1 so get ready for that one
Well i worked as an electric train driver for a year and a half. Learnt alot and im now trying to be an electrical engineer. Its a way of me teaching myself about concepts of electrical engineering and well As they say if you can't explain it well, you don't understand it well enough. I'm hoping to post one about the New york central third rail this weekend. So look forward to that :)
Thanks so much for your in depth information concerning the electrification of the Pennsylvania Railroad. Cannot wait for your next videos. Thanks again
Appreciate that! I'm gonna be talking about the New york Central Third Rail coming out this friday. Its been really hard just getting photos and information about the electrics just by the nature of them being quite old and there wasn't alot written about them.
Honestly doing this has really helped out with my speaking alot and honestly its just been a fun time. Always wanted to do history when i was a kid and i suppose this is my fun way of exploring that
I rode the MP54's a lot when I was young. They was fast right up to the end of their life with great acceleration. The windows would rattle a lot but you could open them in the summer. In the winter the electric baseboard heat kept you warm and toasty and would thaw you out after waiting on the the train to arrive.
Thank you, i've only really started youtube in the last few montbs so i'm still getting the hang of editing. Its just so hard to get good photos or videos from the early years
This is my first time viewing your channel, and I notice that you seem to have a bit of a British accent. Just wondering, because its always nice (and kind of touching) when people from outside North America show respect for US railroads (there's a TON of looking down on the US from British railfans (and Kiwis too to a certain extent). I'm really impressed by the quality so far, though, so keep up the good work! In addition to covering the Lackawanna, I also recommend giving separate coverage to the Long Island Rail Road and the Reading, at a minimum. Other electrifications you might wish to cover are the "tunnel" electrifications: The Boston and Maine Hoosac Tunnel and the Baltimore and Ohio Mount Royal Tunnel. Then there's the "secondary" electrifications of the various railroads. The New Haven had various primitive DC electrifications scattered across Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts that were largely unconnected to the main AC system. The Pennsylvania also had some DC lines-the ones in New Jersey being the prime example, but there was also the Cumberland Valley line. And if you go somewhat off of the Eastern Seaboard, you have a tiny suburban electrification by the Erie Railroad in Rochester, NY and tunnel electrifications by the New York Central in Cleveland and Detroit. If you still want to go on, there are the Virginian and Norfolk and Western electrifications in Virginia, the Great Northern's Cascade Tunnel and the Milwaukee Road's masterwork in the Northwest, the Illinois Central's suburban operation in Chicago, and the various Southern Pacific entanglements on the West Coast. Looking North, there was the Canadian National's Montreal electrification, the CN/Grand Trunk Western Saint Clair Tunnel electrification, and the British Columbia Railway Tumbler Ridge operation. And for a piece de resistance, you can put in the electrified pier operations, and the battery tractors that worked the industrial waterfronts. Including the Staten Island Rapid Transit and the South Brooklyn Railway might be a bit much, though. And if you REALLY want to stretch, there were the streetcar/interurban operations, some of which might be included on the grounds that they hauled freight, interchanging cars with main line operations. And in a few places, remnants of former streetcar lines remain operational as unelectrified freight trackage (or continued in operation for decades prior to abandonment). There are a couple of other operations (Butte, Anaconda & Pacific, looking at you), but that's pretty much everything North of Mexico (there were several electrifications there and in Central America but I'm already making this post way too long) That said, I'm going to go through and offer some corrections: @1:05 That's Washington Union Station. There is no such thing as Penn Central Station. @1:25 It's not entirely accurate to say that the PRR "improved" its route into New York City. The phrasing I often read in history books (including one by the PRR itself from 1952!) is that it "created" or "built" its extension into New York City. Yes, it had ferries from Exchange Place, but once Penn Station opened, it regarded the ferry operation as "not really being in New York City". I haven't even gotten two minutes in, and I've already written a wall of text, so I'm going to post this, finish watching, and then review and comment on the rest.
Hey so regarding the accent actually i'm australian actually but my grandparents who moved out here early on so i've kept a bit of the accent but added the slang. I kinda started liking the PRR just because of how similar it was to NSWGR in the tuscan scheme and because sydney was an earlier adopter of electric trains. We had a lot of electric locomotives upto the 90s but access charges killed them off when the freight side of things was privatised. We technically have a couple preserved but considering only time i ever see it is on MOW trains i don't think its entirely accurate to say its retired.
good video just that electric locomotives do not use the whyte notation they use the letter and number notation so a FF1 would actually be a 1-C+C-1, a L5 would be a 1-B+B-1 and so on. Numbers are unpowered axles, letters are powered axles, + indicates an articulated frame, and jackshafts are not part of the notation.
Thank you for that, i've already started making some corrections on my upcoming video. The hardest part of it all is trying to figure the balance of how indepth do i go for some of the components. I acknowledge i've made a few mistakes so i may come back to this in the future and redo this episode. I feel theres alot of things i can improve on
I think i'll have to for sure, it seems like it has very interesting history. I might do one sooner than later. Its one of those railroads i never really heard of until i did a deep dive into PRR.
@@Reaper1770 And don't forget the reading railroad. Also the PRR electrification was actually expanded in the 1980s with the addition of SEPTA's Airport Line and the Center City Commuter Connection.
its here, the second episode we go over how grand central started out with some of the early new york central locomotives
ua-cam.com/video/gzlGhcm-ZgA/v-deo.html
Great video, love the Pennsy. As a matter of interest, diesel-electric locos also have an hour/starting rating and a continuous rating (the traction motors are electric after all) - in response to 8:20. 🙂
Hey thank you for that, ive only worked on electrics so far and thank you for that.
@@Reaper1770 anytime man, let's all grow in our knowledge, I love learning about all things railways too :)
Very well done with good images and great research! Subscribed and looking forward to future episodes.
Thank you, at the moment im struggling for some pictures as alot of the pictures for new haven arent CC and it would be wrong of me to use their pictures without permission
Thanks. Well done Mister.
Appreciated. I'm gonna get my new york central video out next and then we get to talk one of my favourite locomotives of all time GG1. Its gonna be a long episode about the GG1 so get ready for that one
Fantastic videos - look forward to watching them all. Also, though “small” the DL&W electrification is also worth noting…
I'll have a look for sure, what i've seen so far makes it pretty interesting for sure.
The DL&W had more Electrification than the NYC
Great video. Looking forward to more like it. A lot of info I've never heard along with good explanations on electric power
Well i worked as an electric train driver for a year and a half. Learnt alot and im now trying to be an electrical engineer. Its a way of me teaching myself about concepts of electrical engineering and well As they say if you can't explain it well, you don't understand it well enough. I'm hoping to post one about the New york central third rail this weekend. So look forward to that :)
Thanks so much for your in depth information concerning the electrification of the Pennsylvania Railroad. Cannot wait for your next videos. Thanks again
Appreciate that! I'm gonna be talking about the New york Central Third Rail coming out this friday. Its been really hard just getting photos and information about the electrics just by the nature of them being quite old and there wasn't alot written about them.
Great video, I really enjoyed it! Don't be afraid to do more than one take if you mess up, you'll get there!
Honestly doing this has really helped out with my speaking alot and honestly its just been a fun time. Always wanted to do history when i was a kid and i suppose this is my fun way of exploring that
@@Reaper1770 Glad to hear it. The most important part is that you're enjoying yourself!
The Danbury Branch of the New Haven once had overheard
MP54 were called "Owl Cars" !!😁
Really i wonder why they were called owl cars, since doing the video i've been really wanting one for my ho scale collection
Two circular windows look like an owl's eyes, perhaps . . . ?
@@Reaper1770 The two window circles
I rode the MP54's a lot when I was young. They was fast right up to the end of their life with great acceleration. The windows would rattle a lot but you could open them in the summer. In the winter the electric baseboard heat kept you warm and toasty and would thaw you out after waiting on the the train to arrive.
@EllieMaes-Grandad Bingo!!!👍👍👍👍
I love traction... subscribed!!😁😁😁
Editing could use some work but a good video overall. I look forward to your New Haven video in particular
Thank you, i've only really started youtube in the last few montbs so i'm still getting the hang of editing. Its just so hard to get good photos or videos from the early years
This is my first time viewing your channel, and I notice that you seem to have a bit of a British accent. Just wondering, because its always nice (and kind of touching) when people from outside North America show respect for US railroads (there's a TON of looking down on the US from British railfans (and Kiwis too to a certain extent). I'm really impressed by the quality so far, though, so keep up the good work!
In addition to covering the Lackawanna, I also recommend giving separate coverage to the Long Island Rail Road and the Reading, at a minimum. Other electrifications you might wish to cover are the "tunnel" electrifications: The Boston and Maine Hoosac Tunnel and the Baltimore and Ohio Mount Royal Tunnel.
Then there's the "secondary" electrifications of the various railroads. The New Haven had various primitive DC electrifications scattered across Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts that were largely unconnected to the main AC system. The Pennsylvania also had some DC lines-the ones in New Jersey being the prime example, but there was also the Cumberland Valley line.
And if you go somewhat off of the Eastern Seaboard, you have a tiny suburban electrification by the Erie Railroad in Rochester, NY and tunnel electrifications by the New York Central in Cleveland and Detroit.
If you still want to go on, there are the Virginian and Norfolk and Western electrifications in Virginia, the Great Northern's Cascade Tunnel and the Milwaukee Road's masterwork in the Northwest, the Illinois Central's suburban operation in Chicago, and the various Southern Pacific entanglements on the West Coast.
Looking North, there was the Canadian National's Montreal electrification, the CN/Grand Trunk Western Saint Clair Tunnel electrification, and the British Columbia Railway Tumbler Ridge operation.
And for a piece de resistance, you can put in the electrified pier operations, and the battery tractors that worked the industrial waterfronts. Including the Staten Island Rapid Transit and the South Brooklyn Railway might be a bit much, though.
And if you REALLY want to stretch, there were the streetcar/interurban operations, some of which might be included on the grounds that they hauled freight, interchanging cars with main line operations. And in a few places, remnants of former streetcar lines remain operational as unelectrified freight trackage (or continued in operation for decades prior to abandonment).
There are a couple of other operations (Butte, Anaconda & Pacific, looking at you), but that's pretty much everything North of Mexico (there were several electrifications there and in Central America but I'm already making this post way too long)
That said, I'm going to go through and offer some corrections:
@1:05 That's Washington Union Station. There is no such thing as Penn Central Station.
@1:25 It's not entirely accurate to say that the PRR "improved" its route into New York City. The phrasing I often read in history books (including one by the PRR itself from 1952!) is that it "created" or "built" its extension into New York City. Yes, it had ferries from Exchange Place, but once Penn Station opened, it regarded the ferry operation as "not really being in New York City".
I haven't even gotten two minutes in, and I've already written a wall of text, so I'm going to post this, finish watching, and then review and comment on the rest.
Hey so regarding the accent actually i'm australian actually but my grandparents who moved out here early on so i've kept a bit of the accent but added the slang. I kinda started liking the PRR just because of how similar it was to NSWGR in the tuscan scheme and because sydney was an earlier adopter of electric trains. We had a lot of electric locomotives upto the 90s but access charges killed them off when the freight side of things was privatised. We technically have a couple preserved but considering only time i ever see it is on MOW trains i don't think its entirely accurate to say its retired.
Actually the MP54 had been designed with two versions one using DC power the other with AC
Hmm i think the LIRR used the DC ones didn't they?
@Reaper1770 mostly, they were very briefly used in the Hudson Tunnels before they got converted to use 25Hz Power
Great video. PLEASE continue doing your own voiceovers. Please avoid the crappy computer generated voice tracks now in vogue.
Oh god no i'd never go to AI, i can't stand the stuff. I know i have the occasional stutter i think its something that makes me well me
@@Reaper1770 You do you, man. I was in radio for yeats. Sometimes I stuttered. It's normal.
good video just that electric locomotives do not use the whyte notation they use the letter and number notation so a FF1 would actually be a 1-C+C-1, a L5 would be a 1-B+B-1 and so on. Numbers are unpowered axles, letters are powered axles, + indicates an articulated frame, and jackshafts are not part of the notation.
Thank you for that, i've already started making some corrections on my upcoming video. The hardest part of it all is trying to figure the balance of how indepth do i go for some of the components. I acknowledge i've made a few mistakes so i may come back to this in the future and redo this episode. I feel theres alot of things i can improve on
I think 2-8-8-4 Yellowstones had 145,000 T.E.
Id love to hear some feedback or some thoughts as its my first history focused video
Must Include LIRR!
I think i'll have to for sure, it seems like it has very interesting history. I might do one sooner than later. Its one of those railroads i never really heard of until i did a deep dive into PRR.
@@Reaper1770 And don't forget the reading railroad. Also the PRR electrification was actually expanded in the 1980s with the addition of SEPTA's Airport Line and the Center City Commuter Connection.
It would be interesting to learn about unfulfilled electrification projects and proposals.