great review. Thanks. I've been vegetarian since I was 22 (that was 1973 so 47 years now). I have had excellent health and good energy levels but a couple of years ago I had an ulnar nerve problem and went to a top sports doctor. Tested for blood levels of vitamin D and B12 and found I was low in D and deficient in B12. Supplementing isn't difficult.
you make a very important point! that's why in the followup video on HOW to eat more plants safely I specifically covered vitamin needs: ua-cam.com/video/AksLcCh8uh8/v-deo.html
@Bruce T. Wayne Most of Americans are meat eaters. Most of Americans are massively deficient in essential nutrients. I'd like to find how many vegan/vegetarians died from covid. Let me know when you find that huge number. Considering most had diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, and so on, you're going to have fun looking for that needle in a haystack. Just like anything else, not all vegetarians/vegans are healthy, however as a group are generally healthier, they exercise more and make better health choices overall. Health isn't as simple as eating meat or not. BTW... Joe Rogan supplements with all sorts of things, including 5000iu daily Vit D.
@@thehummermeister8992 And don't talk about a "natural" diet when you talk about meat, because most meat requires a lot of stabilizing chemicals like pork etc. Or else you will get sick and die. They do this in huge work places before they even sell it to stores for them to sell it to us. And besides, we are the only "omnivore" like any other herbivore that has the same brain part which is responsible for feeling guilt, having feelings for other beings etc. Which actual omnivores and carnivores miss. So they don't feel bad for their prey, if they also had that same brain part, they would die because their bodies absolutely need meat to survive (because their bodies can't synthesize missing aminoacids like creatine and l_carnitine etc; AND EVERY HERBIVORE just like us CAN) Also there are no typical omnivore or carnivore characteristics if you look at our intestines and organs or organ structure. Also our stomach acid PH is comparable to Herbivores and not omni and carnivores. And... we are the only ones that use a chemical reaction to get rid of most of the bacteria and diseases in meat by cooking it, which are harmless for actual omnivores and carnivores. But not herbivores, this partly has to do with our weak stomach acids. And you have to remember we only started controlling fire about 2 million years ago, and we have existed for over 800 million years if you believe evolution theory, meaning we could only have eaten meat without cooking it before that time. So how exactly is that natural? And besides, who the fuck even cares about something being natural or not, lets just do the things that are best for us and our health, instead of things that are natural. It's also natural to rape and kill but this also isn't automatically good. So I really don't see your point.
Most new 'plant based' foods made as alternatives to burgers, while being processed too. Its just a marketing push, lots of the vegan alternatives are filled with oil and other unhealthy stuff. Most vegans i know are fat, lol.
@@eliteviktor3 Yes, the vegans ARE fat. And the calorie restriction one's are so irritable and miserable they'd probably be better off fat. The government and big agriculture desperately want people to eat grains, especially corn products and wheat. And I guess big pharma likes us eating corn too. People have been watching, listening, reading nothing but propaganda (thank to Clinton's deregulation of the media..so that big money, like made-in-china General Electric, bought and control everything we see, hear, and read.) People think commentary garbage .. contains facts ... People think facts are opinions.. We're basically too stupid to survive much longer thanks to TV, the rest of the media, and unregulated pollution... And then there's the lead and fluoride in our water and food... and air.. Yes, we are too stupid.
Most processed food is made from plant food, namely, corn, soy, wheat or rice that has been genetically modified and soaked in round up. Even sodas are made of corn...
Regarding running 2 marathons a day, I will just say that I worked in an exercise physiology and human performance lab at a major university that was also a distance runner mecca. There was one of the most massive studies of running ever done there and there was an inverted U of health benefits from running that peaked at about 25-30 miles per week (over a 6 month period) and completely disappeared by 60 miles a week. These were elite runners. By the time they were averaging 60 miles a week their chance of a major negative health incident was equal to a completely sedentary person. These were measures of ACTUAL health incidents, not health hazard ratios. At 90 miles a week, the runners were 20% more likely to have a major negative health incident than a sedentary individual, and 40% more likely than a runner maintaining 30 mile a week average. Running greatly improves health, but 85% of the benefits occur at about 15 miles a week, and none occur above 30.
That is fantastic news! I read it and other sources, but not in places where I had a chance to say how glad I was to know that I’ve not wasted my life by not becoming an elite runner. I wonder what is analogous in walking to 15 miles of running a week? Not willing to take that on.
I just had to write this and give you a compliment for your jokes. I think that you are one of the very few nutritionists on YT that is legit, that I can learn from, but at the same time laugh my ass off. Good job buddy, keep it up!
At 70 I started a vegan diet. At 71 I went to my doctor for a physical, he looked at me, looked at my blood work, looked at me again, and asked if I was seeing another doctor. He saw I hadn't renewed my prescriptions for Lisinopril or Pravastatin. My cholesterol was down and my blood pressure was normal, without my meds! Anecdotal, or scientific proof? That's science to me! One test is worth a thousand expert opinions.
@@honestcommenter8424his cholesterol went down because a vegan diet contains ZERO cholesterol. Seriously, look it up. If you have cholesterol issues, a vegan diet will absolutely do wonders for you, no question. Has nothing to do with how “clean” the diet is. The cleanest eggs are full of cholesterol. Vegan diets, no matter how processed or crappy you want to make them, will always have zero cholesterol. If you weren’t eating clean, then switch to a healthy whole foods vegan diet? You’ll see improvements in other areas as well.
One thing I noticed is that the only meat-based diet they mentioned in their studies is the traditional western diet. I understand that a large amount of Americans consume this diet, but it leads to skewed results. Obviously, if you switch from a diet that revolves around McDonald’s to a plant-based diet, you will see a large decrease in chronic diseases and an improvement in overall health. I would be more interested to see the results of somebody who practices a more healthy meat-based diet, such as the Mediterranean diet, which involves many vegetables and healthy fats, switching to a plant-based diet. It was definitely an interesting documentary either way.
Exactly. Most people are doing it wrong. I eat meat and a lot of plants. My biomarkers are as good as it gets along with energy, strength and performance
@Marc Hlavac You can get short-chain omega 3 from crushed some seeds, nuts and beans, which is then converted to long-chain omega 3. I read there's still a debate among nutritional scientists about whether you optimally need the long-chain omega 3's directly - but you can also get that from algae (supplements) like fish do. 1tbsp of grounded flax seeds per day is enough to get an abundance of short-chain omega 3 fatty acids - and then it's important to stay low on omega 6 - because the balance between them is what matters - I've read about ratios of 1:1 to 4:1 but it seems like it is oversimplifying. So case in point, it's not necessarily a problem - but definitely something vegans need to know.
@PickleRick Good point, just one correction: the Mediterranean diet (at least the one that's marketed as such) is generally considered a plant-based or plant-predominant diet, and definitely not a meat-based diet. Meat is supposed to constitute only a small percentage of the food in it.
"traditional western diet" who invented that term? I know what you are talking about, AKA Standard American Diet. But you might as well call it "I don't know how to boil water and never drank a glass of water in my life"-diet. To me a traditional (still super common and probably ubiquitous 20-30 years ago where I live) diet would be pretty much a plant based diet, a lot of white potatoes and bread, grains and various vegetables, with some modest amounts of meat and other more luxurious products like butter.
@Los Fromla, his records aren’t particularly impressive. He is setting records in a category of “past their prime” men. Let me know when he starts setting records in the 18-29 range. The man has eaten himself into diabetes, as well as eating himself into disproportionately low levels of testosterone. I’ve watched some of his review (what little I could see from all of the eye rolling) and I found it to be extremely biased. The majority of his debunking is not rooted within science. He’s not in the market of accuracy, he’s in the market of selling his diet.
@Los Fromla, that isn’t true in the slightest. You simply can’t make a claim and it be true. Some athletes featured have been vegan since birth, and continue to be vegan. There was also no noticeable drop in performance. No one has been able to corroborate that claim. I watched the whole thing. It’s intellectually devoid, scientifically inaccurate, and self aggrandizement on Shawn’s behalf. He utterly fails to support the majority of what he says, and what little he does support, he uses biased sources. I will admit that he wasted 51 minutes of my time in order to defend his diet. The entire video is a desperate attempt to dismiss his competition, while literally making things up as he does along. You should be ashamed.
I have been eating meat my whole life then started plant based 3 years ago and i have to say i do feel better after eaten.I wish I'd done it years ago.
It's because you probably eat less protein which is very hard to digest. Also the biggest problem would be, you at not enought fiber and stuff and it all makes add up. I do mostly eat meat + vegie in every meal and i do feel great. I do run sport test every year and my body is in 26yo like 16yo. It's all about the diet not about if plant or not... you can compare hamburger to salad... But great to hear you are feeling great :)
@@clarenceboddiker9559 Well, you can be efficient, but its not easy for body to digest it. Coz if you eat vegies it contains a lot of water and water doesnt need to be diggest, so if you are plantbased and you eat fresh, your digesting is much faster but not that effective. You probably understood it wrong... Ofc we are very efficient at digesting protein.. but it takes time
precisely! they were only showcasing the "vegan junk food" for the argument of "I would go vegan, but pizza/but donuts/but etc". They made it pretty clear throughout the whole documentary that an ideal diet is a whole-foods, plant-based diet. I already know, since going vegan, that whenever I have highly processed foods (the cheeses, meats, and ready-to-eat meals) I still feel so groggy and low on energy. I think these heavy meals for the athletes are their cheat days! haha Patrick goes all out!
@@koalsa4120 I love Jared Leto's definition of himself. A "cheagan". He is mainly plant based but sometimes cheats with vegan junk food. As a PB myself (I have been for years) I too find myself bloated and stuffed when I go processed. However the processed vegan food was what got my hubby on board. Today he has no doubts about preferring a lentil ragù to a tofu one. But that got him going. BTW hubby is 46 and an amateur boxer since 40.
This is all a waste of time and poor science study (from everyone, all sides of the food and diet aisle). We are no longer in the last century - lets speak about what we know today, this century, this decade; Humans make their own proteins and amino acids. All species do (plants, animals, bacteria, etc.). We are no different. It does not matter what u eat, so long as it can convert to glucose - and all whole foods, raw and fresh can do this - INCLUDING MEAT. All species, we are all, inherently, fundamentally, glucivores.
If the point of the movie was to get more people to consider adopting a habit of eating less animal products than I think it was successful. Therefore their approach was effective.
yes, it better to eat less meat if you are a fat shitty overweight human being. go on a diet. stop eating that deep fried shit. but what does this have to do with what humans need biologically? zero. my recommendation: google the vegan vloggers who got sick as f*ck and then changed back to dairy and meat and then got ROASTED by their psycho fans. disgusting.
David Kay its not the diet that make them get iron deficiency etc, its their lack of knowledge when it comes to nutrition. You cant just turn vegan eating only cucumbers hoping to get healthy, you have to edjucate yourself and look up what minerals, vitamins & fats we have to eat to survive and live healthy. Then you look up which plant based foods that are containing those things. You should try learning more about the subject since you clearly dont have any idea of what you are talking about. Maybe that will help push your head out of ur ass a little further.
@@lurreburre9167 my ass is where it belongs. im saying exactly what you are saying. couldnt agree more. BUT nobody does it. all they do is point their fingers at people who eat meat/dont agree and elevate themselves morally through it. they are no better than anyone else, just because of what they EAT. when they are clearly doing other things way worse for their health and our planet. im sick of people telling me how to live when they clearly have no understanding of the implications of dietary choices. again, im not against anything, live however the hell you want, im just fed up with the hippocrits trying to control me with their arrogance while being ignorant.
David Kay yeah there are alot of people like that unfortunately. The dumb ones usually are the loudest. But most are just trying to help others out. I agree, eat what you want i wont judge since i myself ate meat before i went vegan. Ive given up on trying to persuade people on trying the diet but im more than happy to help if they ask.
@@lurreburre9167 how do you know someone needs help? are you the overlord daddy or super helicopter mum? people can help themselves. help can only be given, when asked for. other than that you ll end up patronizing. my rule: never offer help, never deny it. you see? no persuasion needed, and people will see you as a resource for good shit, not the idiot who is trying to force opinions/rules/nonsense on them. lead by example. WIN
@h. s I was going to say the same thing! DOMINION is the one that people need to see after The Game Changers ... this is NOT JUST ABOUT A DIET! ua-cam.com/video/iSpglxHTJVM/v-deo.html
Good idea to increase the whole food/vegetables!! however if you want to avoid heart disease then it maybe worth looking into how animal fats and proteins trigger the inflammatory response, especially on the endothelial cells (lining of the blood vessels). Inflammation also hinders recovery after exercise. But it all depends if you find that important or not. I had to stop eating animal proteins because I had a noticeable reaction to them. I do also understand where the vegans are coming from after working on a farm recently and was upset how badly the animals were treated. It’s the first time it really hit home that we don’t actually have to kill to live. I do understand the taste factor though, so hopefully those plant based meats that Bill Gates and other entrepreneurs are heavily investing in will take the place. Apparently they taste just like meat and have all the nutrients. Plus aren’t processed much either. Just heat and pressure on yellow pea protein to make the texture. And the perfect natural flavours added. Amazing actually!!
What a waste of time and poor science study (from everyone, all sides of the food and diet aisle). We are no longer in the last century - lets speak about what we know today, this century, this decade; Humans make their own proteins and amino acids. All species do (plants, animals, bacteria, etc.). We are no different. It does not matter what u eat, so long as it can convert to glucose - and all whole foods, raw and fresh can do this - INCLUDING MEAT. All species, we are all, inherently, fundamentally, glucivores.
I am so grateful to have found your channel. I have experienced two gout attacks recently and still recovering from one. I decided to make diet changes to avoid it in the future. I searched for advice and found quite a few videos on YT about the carnivore diet and decided to give it a try. I started for two days, felt a bit funny about the rather radical approach, and started digging for more information. After binge-watching many of your reviews I gained much more science-based knowledge and recognized the recklessness of many of the diet suggestions in the other videos. I would have surely added risks to my health if I were to follow those advice. Thank you for your effort to provide well-researched and referenced information on health issues. And it amazes me how many so-called experts are willing to risk other's life to gain some internet traffic. Please keep up the good work. This will be the only channel that I follow concerning healthy diets.
I'm not kidding, instant subscribe. Such a neutral, kind and great review. Hitting all the key points, good and bad. And bringing up the critical point of whole plants. You, good sir, have done a great job..
@Nasdaq trader I have one next to me in his 60ties, more than 30 years not eating meat, looks young for his age and is incredibly strong. But he stopped eating meat not because he read it somewhere, he just lost taste for it!
@Nasdaq trader Hmm, well there are plenty of vegetarians/vegan who dispose of your mummyhood theory. Np matter what label we call ourselves or foods we eat, there is a staggering amount of ignorance about what nutrition the body requires and where to get it from. It's just too much effort for most people to research, or they cant discern fact from fiction. So marketing and lobbyists win.
Lol, unbiased? HAHAHAHA, you're funny. Sounds like a typical plant based guy promoting the steaming pile of shit that is nutrition science. Just keep talking about those "studies" and "science" that promote the vegan agenda.
We don't need a balanced critique. We need to know the truth about veganism and this pushed movie because it destroy our health! It is therefore advisable to listen to ex vegans like Bobby: ua-cam.com/video/w2M8my9MW4c/v-deo.html
@@Freidenker888 that’s anecdotal evidence, if that’s the only thing you have to support your claim, then.. be ashamed Listen to science, rather than influencers
There is a lot of good research done on plant based diets, and it shows that plants should make up a huge part of diets. But that documentary is an absolute abomination. They misrepresent so much data, cherry pick bad research, which isnt needed, and use deceit to push their point.
Being a trained physician too, I agree with everything you said and thought the angles you chose to give your "opinion" (which is pretty close to being an undisputable scientific statement at this point) were on point. Great video!
Excellent critique! I completely agree that "whole plants" cannot be overstated and also that plant based junk food is not comparable. Funny, informative, and best of all you seem genuinely clear of the rabid emotional diet cling.
thanks Abdel! I have my preferences like everybody else but I do try to stay objective when stating my opinion in any public forum. Glad you liked it, man!
@@DeepikaAditya The average life expentancy of a gladiator was 2 years. They were feeding them like pigs to bring them to the slaughterhouse. If you are a gladiator that will die within 2 years go ahead, it will help you with wounds and with the profits of your master. Otherwise not very good for you.
Seems like a pretty balanced and accurate review to me. I decided to reduce my meat intake substantially after watching it, almost to 100% plant based. I was already 99% convinced before the doco that it was a good idea, but it was the final push for me.
Great points, Gil. Can't argue with any. Film had a budget of $3.5 million, by the way, not including the marketing & promo budget. Wilkes deserves a lot of credit for his tenacity and vision, assembling the people involved, and Rip Esselstyn brought a lot to the table here as well.
thanks Jeff!! yeah I loved the Rip scene. overall it's a good statement and I think it'll contribute to people eating a bit healthier. I'm seeing the repercussions in social media :)
Could you pay all people for the work, fly around the World, do scientific Test and Meet Famous people, buy Rights & ect for 3.5 Tausen Dollars? I don‘t think. Make a Documentary isn‘t Cheap Sir
The theory behind Gladiators being fed oats and beans prior to competition was that those foods thickened their blood so they could take some cuts and live to fight another day. Gladiators didn't need longevity. In fact, they had high stress hormone levels provoked in them.
I didn’t hear that the issue was about why they did it, but that it was a stretch to claim that that’s the way most of the gladiators ate, given the spotty evidence.
@@oolala53 It's a waste time to debate what gladiators ate regarding the movie, The Game Changers. James Wilks provided the anecdote to tell why he began studying nutrition. Period. It doesn't matter if it's true or false. He never made an argument that we need to eat like gladiators.
Your critique and communication skills are on point. As a filmmaker, I fully agree with all points you made, and you seem to have a solid understanding of how storytelling works as to why they may have gone a certain route. Also there's so much validation/information you can cram in 1 1/2 hours AND keeping viewers engaged. One thing though is through a scientific lens you want to ignore sayings like "i feel better" or "more energized" etc... however when I went vegan (6 years ago), my biggest and most powerful drive to keep going (besides not supporting a murdering industry) was that I felt and still feel like I have more energy after eating. Mind you I have devoured fields of cows in the past and used to love the taste. Not so anymore. When I ate a vegan meal and didn't feel like sleeping on the keyboard, I was hooked. And that's why I believe they had that segment - they didn't try to validate it with science - it was just a selling point (which I identify with).
@@NutritionMadeSimple this wasn't a fact check 😅. This was you cheerleading the movie. How can you critique gamechangers and not mention the b12 claim?
@@NutritionMadeSimple lowering cholesterol in 7 days "reduces CVD risk" It's like you are unaware of other risk factors such as obesity, diabetes or insulin resistance
@@annberry8149 Well if you really think that you do the movie an astonishing amount of injustice. if you are interesstet and honest watch ua-cam.com/video/ZTyGP5hCtBQ/v-deo.html and then make up your mind.
@@annberry8149 the majority of humans are biased from birth if you've ever stop to question why the majority of people habitually act upon what they've always seen and done.
@@YZ450f24 I agree. I am biased towards the diet of my great grand parents, my grand parent, and my parents. The diet was meat at every meal, vegetables, fruit.. milk. I don't remember ever eating beans or soy ... If we wanted to NOT be fat we didn't eat any kind of bread.. and we cut back on potatoes... and gave up pies, cakes, and candy... They might would have been considered under weight by today standards .. They didn't exercise, go to the gym, walk much or do heavy work.. We didn't have fortified or enriched food.. We didn't have corn oil or really any kind of vegetable oil.... we just had butter ..that we spread on bread and put on potatoes.
I've been an athlete all my life, and workout 4-5 times a week for last 18 years. When I was younger it was all about eating a ton of meat with every meal. 7-8 years ago I started cutting back on my red meat and processed food before the vegan thing really took off. I did it mainly to family factors. High blood pressure, diabetes run in my family so as I get older I dont want to possibly have to deal with that stuff. I still enjoy a steak, burger from time to time but bulk of my meat intake is chicken or fish, and I eat a ton more veggies/fruit now. To me its about balance and it seems to be working for me
@@breadfan9 exactly. Chicken especially has almost identical levels of saturated fat as red meat. But it’s not just the saturated fat at issue, as harmful as that is. It’s the actual animal PROTEIN that causes inflammation and disease.
If everyone would be vegans then the big agriculture which is soy, wheat, corn will make more profits... and the chemical corporations... Bayer and Monsanto .. and processes foods corporations will make bigger profits.. and big pharma will make more profits from the resulting chronic diseases...and people will die around retirement age so the government can steal more social security money..
@@annberry8149 soy, wheat and corn producers' largest customers are animal farmers. What do you think the vast majority (literally 99%) of industrially grown animals eat?
I am receiving my minor in nutrition and I am really happy to have found your channel. I really appreciate you spreading information like this. It is critical to the health and longevity of people in the US. I have enjoyed looking at the research looking at mental health and nutrition recently. Another important topic today.
Healthy young humans can tolerate a high carbohydrate diet for decades, so it really makes no point. I could eat anything in my 20's. The chronic diseases related to high insulin levels don't usually manifest much before age 50 although they are starting younger now.
Thanks for the info Doc!! A while back I remember seen a documentary about a Russian 100+ year old men, during the interviews he was asked what was his secret when it came to nutrition, to which he replied, I have no secret diet, I eat everything and anything in moderation and eat just enough to calm my hunger, not to stuff my face.
I have watch many people online 100+ nd all hv different diet some r complete vegan, heavy bacon lover, some r even smokers n drinkers Even my great grandma drank rice beer who was 95+ nd was totally fit But the common thing they share was LESS STRESS
@@chaol7770 yes of course im 17 years old and I eat everything. You know my Mother know some her friend. And he did never drink never smoke, he even washed his hand everyday, he showered everyday. Well im showerung everyday to. But yes. But unfortunelly he died very Young 32 years he had because of cancer. Well maybe People really die when they finish their mission on earth. As the God said. When many peolple saw God in heaven he said to the when you finish your mission you Will Come here. But now you must go down there. Even ancestors said this in heaven. Well its Just a theory. I mean for you. But for me IS a truth. Am I right. Well answer me please. If you have something to comment to me.
Watched it tonight! Already knew most of this stuff and I’m currently about 80% plant based diet but this documentary made me want to bump it up to about 95%. This is coming from a guy who used to eat McDonald’s and Taco Bell 6 times a week. Plant based life has changed my life for the better 100%. That Sugar Film and Forks Over Knives were both a better watch in my opinion 🌱 ❤️
you re a fool for thinking stopping mcdonalds and taco bells is making you feel better is because you dont eat meat anymore. you dont eat disgusting FAST FOOD anymore.THAT IS why you feel better. it doesnt matter if its vegan or meat. fast food is crap. dont feel too proud of yourself for cutting out the most obvious bullshit in your life. now, stop smoking, dont drink alcohol and you ll get an extra 25 years. thank me when you are 90. too silly. if you eat junk food 6 times a week, just eating sand and grass will make you feel better. oh and you hydrate more. can you hear the masses clap for you?
I just watched the documentary recently and didn’t know it was so old. Anyway, I follow u and have been changing my diet and after watching the documentary decided to go plant based only. That was about 5 weeks ago. It’s a little hard because I have to learn about nutrition and also how to cook plant based food so it tastes delicious. Is a process but I am sticking to it. I haven’t eaten red meat in approximately 40 years and only about 5 years ago decided to eat chicken and turkey again. Now I’m going back to my pescatarian diet, fish once in a while because I am the only one in the house going plant based and need something to eat with them. Thank u for all the information and especially for the way u explain concepts and ideas. Great job!!
Of all the vegan documentaries, what I love about this one, is you are left with a feeling of hope and happiness. Unlike so many others, which are important, and welll done and have their place, you feel angry though, angry at the system. Not this movie.
@@NutritionMadeSimple I also felt a sense of pride in these athletes. I'm a big fan of Patrick Baboumian. He's an amazing human being. Damien Mander as well. This film will help push people in the right direction. I know one guy who was a huge meat eater and is overweight. He has seen this movie 6 times, he and his wife went plant based as a result. I don't mind that people will eat some vegan junk food during their transition, because it helps them get away from an animal-based diet. Then they can slowly transition from that, to eating a Whole Foods plant-based diet. Charity Morgan admitted that she sneaks nutrition in her food! I love that! Those big strong athletes don't see boring health food, they enjoy fueling their bodies. Much love to them all!
The movie Unity (2015) ends with hope too!. It's the sequel to Earthlings but more about humanity and the whole planet in general, which veganism ties into.
You got this right! I am a vegetarian for over a year and 2020 is going to be the start of veganism. Already, I am just stoked. In the last two weeks, I ate more diverse and very tasty vegan dished as I normally do as a vegetarian. I like sporting more then ever and I feel more happy. I really didn’t thought that this diet or lifestyle could make life more happy in general.
@@elizabethelias1005 I wouldn't get your hopes up about athletes when it comes to the vegan diet. Many athletes don't start out as vegans, so they build their bodies while eating meat. Athletes are also known to use enhancing drugs in general, which skews the results of their diets. Some athletes that go vegan do experience one or two years of excellent results but often will fail after that. Veganism can be done by some people but it surely doesn't give someone superiour health, strength and stamina.
Great review, very balanced-love how you consider why the film makers may have chosen not to go beyond animal vs plant. I think the anecdotes were an important way to get the attention of young people who aren’t motivated by fear of heart attack or weight gain. I loved how the film motivated my 17 year old son to try to eat more plant based!
Wow, your empathy and breakdown here is so unique to anyone else I have heard on nutrition science. Thank you for your objectivity and practical view points that take into consideration that some people are suffering and find it so hard to feel better and help themselves. You understand the human experience. Thank you.
Yes, as a vegan, I was also upset about them not putting enough focus on ‘whole-foods’ as that is really what eating vegan should be all about as there is a big difference between being a vegan and being a healthy vegan...but I see your point about people not getting with that and agree with it...overall amazing review, so happy it wasn’t bias, thank you!
Finally, just a unbiased, really well put together video. This really does bring a complex debate into a straightforward decision making process on diet.
I like your unbiased approach - as a doctor, cancer survivor (35 years), nutritionist for 50 years, I sit at 70 in the best shape of my life - in awe of whole foods and plant based diets - they work for me, and my chronic degenerative disease patients. There is a place for non-plant based food, but you have to catch it, raise it and eat the way our genes (ethnicity counts) allow us. (Think Kenya and corn mush... sub 2hour marathons) Fibre is a nutrient to 90% of your biomass.. just saying.
I really enjoyed The Game Changers, it was engaging & fun to watch. That said, your review is on point! I went plant based 4 years ago. I lost a bunch of weight, healed my non-alcoholic fatty liver, regulated my cholesterol, etc. After a few years, however, I became physically disabled. An old back injury became debilitating almost over night. After a lot of research & medical consults, i realized that many of my problems were related to my age (46,) hormonal changes & nutrient deficiencies for my specific needs! I needed more omega-3 & calcium. Supplements weren’t cutting it. I reintroduced salmon & full fat dairy, & all of my symptoms improved. I am still primarily plant based, and in the future I hope to go back to a fully plant based lifestyle; but for now, I am prioritizing my health. I’m stronger & I feel better❤ Dietary choices are very personalized.
I totally agree with your pet peeves. I believe those producing the film would as well and that your guesses about why they made these choices are correct. Another really nice video. I cannot understand why more folks haven't found your channel yet.
I think you are both right about the motivations, they are gearing the whole thing toward the manly, man crowd... people in fitness who are really into the meat head, bro science stuff. You can only get so technical with them at first... you need to win over their stomachs first.
Has anyone ever claimed the contrary? Feel like it's a straw man argument. You can be a great athlete and a vegan but to put it down to the diet only that's where I'm parting company. Great unbias review by the way.
none of the peopel interviewed actually do that well on a vegan diet. or rather, they were already doing well as athletes on a non vegan diet, but then go on a vegan diet and do not thrive as vegans. it doesn't mean they can no longer function as athletes. Only that the movie kind of suggests that the vegan diet is what leads to their prowess. Most of the people interviewed were already really successful on a non vegan diet, who go vegan after the fact. and if we look at their actual times and records most do worse after eating vegan diets. This is not even necessarily proof that veganism is bad. Only that they are already halfway thorugh career before going on vegan diet. And their times do suffer. But their times may have already suffered as they are in the tail end of their career.
Alex Botham as a Forest Technologist yes I can read a forest plot. My question would be what kind of forest plot are you talking about because there are many?
Thank you for the video. The plant-based community (of which I am a member) does have a problem with embracing false claims that are consonant with its values. It's good to have people like you to be a voice for reservation.
I've watched this documentary twice and I must say that your review is one of the best ones I've heard so far! Very honest and unbiased with a lot of common sense. I did notice when I watched the second time that they don't really use the word vegan just people eating a mostly plant-based diet. I don't eat red meat but I do eat chicken and I feel like most of my diet is pretty healthy. I understand what you say about the junk food but I must say that the food in the Tennessee Titans segment look absolutely delicious! I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you
I've recently gone on a plant based diet I used to gym 5 days a week. And I'm stronger and fitter. My recovery is quicker. I couldn't train Arms because of tendonitis. Can can now. My mood is better I'm sleeping better my eyesight is better my memory is better. And I haven't felt this great in a long time.. my diet was mainly chicken and rice steak rice. Sweet potato little bits and veg. Now it's pure meat and dairy-free. I've got bigger and stronger
Same. Been practicing parkour for 12 years. And vegan for 5. So I can definitely tell the difference between before and after. One of the strongest shifts for me was to start juicing leaves. Read about it in a book on RAW veganism and it's another GAME CHANGER for sure.
@@UsyksmashedFurytwice It's not limited at all. Any basic cooking ingredient used for standard dishes like noodles, rice, potatoes are all available on a vegan diet. The only huge difference you have when cooking vegan is that you have to use different binding agents for sauces and similar things, since you have no more access to eggs or butter. But for that you have things like Tomato paste, or avocados, which can be used to great effect for similar function, depending what kind of 'taste' you're going for with your sauce. Alot of traditional cuisines also have a laundry list of classically vegan meals. Eastern European Vegetable soups, Asian Rice dishes, Nut based pastes, etc. The taste profile for Vegan meals also isn't restricted. Sweet, sour, savory, whatever taste you tend to fancy you can achieve via vegan meals. If you like spicey food for example all your peperonis and anchovis and w/e are available. if you like Sweet and sour shit you can still use balsamico vinegar and honey. And if you're on a rush, Vegan snacks are simple and plenty around aswell. Just grab two pieces of Fruit (You'll start even exploring more outlandish fruits you never tried like pomegranate and w/e), or buy a bag of unprocessed Nuts like Cashews. One package of 200g contains enough protein and calories to fill you up for almost an entire day.
Thank you so much! I have to analyse this documentary for a project in school and this is really helpful as it is a long documentary with a lot of facts to take in. I found the documentary really interesting, but it is also really cool to hear about the actual facts being proven and checked. You were not one-sided so its a lot easier to check your facts, without the bias. Thank you!
We should not trust any advisor blindly. They can be right about one thing and wrong about another. It's always best to check their references and seek a second opinion from someone else. People tend to believe what they want to hear. If someone says it's good to eat pizza and burgers all day, drink Coke, and that you don't have to drink water if you don't want to, I might be tempted to follow them wholeheartedly
To your point on the complexity of eating vs a simple "meat vs plants" argument, I did keep hearing a variety of the use of "vegan", "plant based" and "whole food plant based" throughout the movie. I feel they tried to brush over that complexity of not all plant based food is healthy just like not all meats are bad for you. this movie is certainly a good talking point and does get the point across of the benefits of transitioning to plant based. I am not 100% plant based as I do still love eggs, cheese and bacon but I have cut back significantly after more of these documentaries have come out. The appeal to me for switching is more towards the amount of resources required for livestock.
10 days in and my back pain and tightness I've had for 15+ years is the best it's been since I can remember. My head is clearer and I already have more energy. Regardless of where someone sits, the American diet is not healthy. The wealthiest country in the world is the sickest for a reason.
I did Keto for 26 straight days, I was trying to make it to 30 and couldn't, I felt so much worse that I had to hang it up. How am I malnourishing myself? What in meat can't I get some other way? I'm not anti meat, I've eaten it my entire life and will probably work it back in to some degree at some point. Eat a raw goat for all I care, do what you're going to do.
@keto cycler so you know all the vegans in the world? You do know life doesn't end on UA-cam right? Most people don't feel the need to record their lives and share their story. How many healthy 30 year keto diet people are there?
After watching Game Changer I have decided to cut down some of the dairy products and meat atleast for a month to see the results. Hope it works for me.
I have been vegan for 1 year now, al my blood levels are great, including b12 (I am using a suplement of course). The doctors don't believe how great my levels are.
Excellent review. I've been vegan for decades and watched The Game Changers for the second time yesterday, as I have found myself coming into increasing conflict with animal-eaters in recent years and wanted to broaden my knowledge. I think you make many good points. As a scientist myself, I absolutely wanted to see more hard science in there and appreciated those sections where the source material was shown. On the other hand, I was OK with the anecdotal stuff. It added a human touch, and it was noticeable that these athletes were people who had started out as animal-eaters, and had changed at some point, so they did at least have a valid comparison to make from their own personal experience. I agree with you that since this was a documentary on improving physical function, the lack of emphasis on a really good whole plant plant-based diet was something of a failure. As you said, I think they were just trying to sell the idea that you can eat all your regular (junk) foods, but just make them out of plants - fine if you are just trying to save animals from abuse, but not so good in a doc trying to promote plant-based food for health.
My mother has lived on a plant base diet her whole life. Stayed fit never smoked moderate drinker. She's now in her 60s and and has cancer throughout her body
I watched the movie in theater before the Netflix release and really liked it. I have always been am omnivore, and the movie didn't change that. However, it did cause me to reevaluate just how much meat I eat, and probably more importantly for me personally it prompted me to do more independent research and adapt my diet to be better overall, such as by dramatically reducing sugar intake and eating more whole foods as you suggest. I thought you did a great job analyzing the pros and cons of the movie. Thanks for putting this out there!
i have myself cut back on beef about 90 percent and pork about 80 from what i used too. Im more chicken and veggies now days. I also have cut out sugar for the most part. I Ill have like a donuts every now and again, but its super rare. One thing i agree is that alot of us do eat too much meat.
Change your words from "cut back on meat" to "cut back on unessessarily killing animals in factories" research how animals are treated for your "meat" we don't need to eat animals, science proves this, selfishness keeps slaughterhouses in business.
Thank u… my husband is a physician and when I talk to him about diet he always says “ I need a double blind study, randomized which has a preponderance of evidence.” I believe he will listen to u
This is the kind of content I’d like to see more of! Letting the science do the hard hitting, not beliefs, anecdotes or information displayed in a biased way! Subscribed.
That was not science. NEVER has it been proven that meat diets cause health problems... The only study that they base this on is one where the herbivore, rabbits, were force fed transfatty acids... and they got sick.. This movie is propaganda from big agriculture and processed foods.
Letta Mego I appreciate your enthusiasm but unfortunately you obviously haven’t looked at anything on nutritionfacts.org If you did, you wouldn’t have made the comment you just did.
@@andrewj3180 Generally, there is a LOT of misinformation out there. I don't need to be "educated" by big agriculture or the processed food industry. I've had enough biology and science to know fact from fiction. I appreciate that you didn't call me names or ridicule me... but you're implying that I don't know science or nutrition. You are wrong about that.
Letta Mego Great we can continue a civil conversation then, kudos to you. I also am very experienced in nutrition. So if I were to ask you if you knew everything there is to know about nutrition would you say “yes” or “no”? Of course you’d say no. Only the fool would say yes. Even the greatest minds on any subject still have more to learn. And there will always be so much to learn. That’s how science works. A wise man once said “Truth has nothing to fear from examination” So have you looked at nutritionfacts.org?
So, my boyfriend saw the film and said he was going all vegetarian because of what he learned. So today I started watching it and after 20 minutes I was thinking: "This can't be real, they have no actual sources/facts at all (almost)"? So I started doing some research and found an article and your video. And thank you! For bringing this subject up and actually be critical against it. I feel like everyone have just swallowed what the film has told us and just believed in everything.
Michelle Sjöström maybe you can read a very comprehensive book about the diet impact on your health! It’s The China Study, then you can make your own conclusions..
Good on you for questioning. There is so much we don’t understand about our own diet. Blood types, body types, goals etc. No single diet is interchangeable between all of us, as we all have different needs and wants.
@@valerylefont3644 Yeah, I should probably do that! Thanks for the recommendation. I find it quite hard finding believable sources that doesn't tell you what to do- but instead inform you about what you should do to get a diet as good for you as possible. Just like @Shawn M said there is no diet that suits all of us. So why do all these documentaries tell us to do the exact same as every other, like we were all the same person?
@@shawnm2113 Exactly! Which is why I find it extremely strange for them to throw tons of "do this and do that" on us like we all had the same needs and wants..
Michelle Sjöström I look at guys who have extreme diets. Body builders, power lifters, pro fighters, strong men. Cases like these are the same types of cases like the experiments they do on rats. They give them extreme amounts of the chemical and then they get to see long term effects rather quickly. Hafthor Bjornson, my favorite strong man, only eats red meat, white rice, white potatoes, fruit and spinach. That’s literally about it. Dude gets blood work done regularly for his craft and he’s healthy as an ox. No one can tell me that red meat is inherently bad because so many professional athletes include it in their diets. It is and has always been about moderation. Everyone is always looking for an easy way out. Eat mainly for health, eat seldom cheat meals and rest. That’s the only way.
Lowering total cholesterol doesn’t imply a commensurate reduction in cardiovascular risk. It’s not even LDL-C, which is inaccurate in and of itself, let alone LDL-P or Lp(a). It’s just not a good biomarker. (And conventional dietary guidelines that put olive and canola oil on the same plane are total crap!)
I went through many kinds of diets years ago when I used to feel really lethargic, and at the end I ended up with plant based diet, withough having heard the word ''vegan' actually, and I got two benefits: I felt emotionally much calmer because I wasn't killing animals indirectly and my performance at college went better as well, so maybe it is because of my particular case, or maybe because I did it reading books, watching docs science-based, and did it really slowly so I really do not tknow exactly why but I feel fantastic.
Very good unbiased review. Regarding the unhealthy vegan alternatives however I have to differ, we need to compare apples with apples. Are oils or certain packaged foods unhealthy? YES, but that is no one to one comparison. Someone eating junk food switching to plant-based junk food will still see impressive health improvements. Same for someone eating fresh animal products switching to fresh fruits/veggies. You can't really make an example of someone eating fresh animal products switching to vegan junk food diet, I won't say it's impossible but I can't see why anyone would do it... Anyone switching even if eating comparable foods will still end up healthier, with less impact on the environment and of course not killing animals.
Ive been Vegan for over 2 years now. I reversed my diabetes in about 3-4 months. I do feel better and have more energy. All I got to say is try it for 30/60 days and decide for yourself. How can one person tell another person not to try something, when they haven't tried it themselves? Decide for yourself.
The question isnt rather if you cut meat from your diet but wheter you just ate better. Judging from the fact that you all ready had diabetes at a relatively young age tells me that you didnt eat very well to begin with. If you eat only at McDonalds/fast food for a year, you're going to feel like shit, have sugar/salt cravings all the time, your energy is going to rollercoaster, you'll probably gain a pound a month and your blood measurments will probably be all over the charts. If you go vegan after that, of course you're going to feel better after a while, but so would you if you just ate better and more varied food. You probably cut out alot of sugar/salt from your diet by going vegan as well. Candy, chips, soda etc not to mentioned all the sugar and salt that saturates processed food these days. (Especially american food, good god you put sugar in everything) If vegan works for you, good, I hope it will continue to do so, I am not here to throw you off the wagon if that worked for you. But anectdotal evidence such as this is hardly basis for a whole society to go vegan.
I agree. Why would anyone keep something like their own experience reversing diabetes or lowering cholesterol to themselves? Don't go off meds right away until you see results moving in the right direction, of course. But it has worked for me, too.
@David Chaplin Good for you. It's also the processed foods that make us sick. Are you still eating that? Of course I would love to follow the Keto diet as I absolutely love meat, but I have chosen plant-based over this due to the number of Athletes that adopt this diet. They cant all be fools. No Keto atheletes as far as I can tell about from Lebron James who did it for a few months to lose weight.
I watched it and will be going more plant based and eventually vegan. The only challenge will be ensuring I have adequate protein intake to help with recovery (I do crossfit so need to eat well for replenishment). The documentary was good but I agree it did show too much junk food. This is probably a tool to encourage non healthy people to adopt a diet which is more carbon footprint friendly. There is also some aspect regarding the psychology of food, in that if the food looks like meat but isn't, it is still appetising. I really like your video, subscribed!
"I have so much energy when eating just plants." I have always seen this as your body saying "that wasn't enough" and then giving you all the energy it can so you can go catch some meat. You shouldn't feel "energised" after the last meal of the day. You should feel sated, relaxed, you've eaten, now let's do some repairs with what's been given.
Fully agree with this one. Once you experienced the difference with certain foods you actually know what your body is telling you. And you certainly should not be all hyped up after eating something. That is your body actually telling you that you ate something bad.
I don’t think the argument anymore is “can you get strong off a plant based diet.” The question is now, is it really the superior way to eat. Most people in America don’t eat a “balanced diet” with enough fruits and whole plant vegetables to begin with. If someone does AND still eats some animal product, is it really that bad ??
farorin yea but you’re coming at it like it’s human flesh, you know what I mean, the whole vegan , you’re eating rotten carcasses Vocabulary lol just say meat or animal products, you should seek truth not just confirmation bias
regerbryan Like he said, he’s calling it what it is. Much more deceptive calling a pig “pork” or a cow “beef” in order to further yourself and others from the fact you’re eating a dead animal carcass.
@@regerbryan The fact that you and I grew up learning that the flesh of certain animals should be called "meat" and that it is a needed part of our diet in order to thrive is part of our indoctrination into the belief system called "Carnism." Here is what a psychologist has to say about Carnism. It has been viewed almost a million times. ua-cam.com/video/ao2GL3NAWQU/v-deo.html&pp=ygUZc2VjcmV0IHJlYXNvbiB3ZSBlYXQgbWVhdA%3D%3D
As a 4th year nutrition student myself, I have to say that I have so much respect for you from watching this video. As I watched I found myself saying "yup, yup, for sure". I agreed with literally every word you said in this video. I felt like i was listening to myself talk. You really know your stuff my friend and i really appreciate for the first time in forever seeing somone who isnt agenda driven and actually makes sense on nutrition. The fact that you have under 2k subscribers and a channel like Sv3rige has nearly 78k is depressing and baffling.
You did an excellent job on this review. The points you made were on point. I agree the vegan junk food is not better. Not sure why this was not corrected and said you can start with these foods as transition foods but you should focus on whole foods. It might be because also Cameron is pro-environment and fewer animal products mean less carbon, and methane in the air. Anecdotes from athletes I think were just to let people know that they too can kick butt in sports and maybe even feel better because of their diet. I can say when I was eating Chipotle and Cliff bars a lot it lead to me getting higher triglycerides and higher AIC. So eating non-whole foods can cause unhealthy blood. I moved to mostly whole foods now and I def got healthier. This is important for anyone with a family history of heart disease, even on a plant-based diet. One correction Arnold is not on a plant-based diet he just eats less meat and eats more plants.
@@NutritionMadeSimple Also Cameron is heavily invested in his pea protein business, Arnie will sure as shit have shares in that one, since they are besties. I feel this is just propaganda mainly, i would love to see a follow up in 10 years on the younger athletes, I feel using athletes to push a plant based diet on the average person is pretty lame tbh. Myself, I eat local, I eat seasonal, both animal and plant, it supports my own community so my foot print is way less than flying in foods from all over the world which most vegans seem to support. This comment is for OP and you as well as I guess Javier will see this as well. Just my 2 cents.
Here are a few of my thoughts on the game changers. It's way of pushing of a vegan diet was flawed. Firstly demonizing meat and implying that any plant food even if highly processed is healthier than lean meat eaten in moderation is problematic. For starters a perfectly managed vegan diet is still not as healthy as a Mediterranean diet or an Okinawan diet which both contain meat, albeit in small quantities. The documentary's claim that our ancestors got their B12 from stagnant ponds and botanical fruits covered in dirt (shit) is extremely dubious. Water from ponds festering with microbes might have contained B12 but they would also contain harmful microbes that would have made water from sources of moving water that is oxygenated and healthier and better tasting a lot more appealing. And same goes for botanical fruits covered in shit. Coprophagia might still be a part of life for the chimpanzee with whom humans share a common ancestor going back over 3 million years but in that time humans changed radically. For starters humans developed smaller less robust , less energy intensive digestive systems thanks to the shift to more nutrient dense foods including cooked meat. Getting B12 from meat eliminated the need for coprophagia and any other highly risky (as far as harmful microbes go) way of obtaining B12. And as far as the sustainability argument goes industrial livestock agriculture is far from ideal. It has some we'll known problems but that doesn't make it ok to mislead by distorting information. For example the availability of B12 supplements doesn't mean they are fed to livestock indiscriminately. They are only fed/injected to animals that are B12 deficient on a case by case basis resulting from a veterinary diagnosis. And as far as the argument about crops being grown to feed cattle that's only partially true. In most parts of the world cattle are primarily allowed to graze on grass on the ranch because it's free and it occurs naturally and it's what cows would eat naturally. Even in the US which is the largest user of grain feeding for livestock grain feeding is left for finishing only to get the desired fat marbling with grazing being their primary feed before that. And it's also worth noting that livestock is raised on land that's not suitable for crops. So if livestock agriculture was magically stopped overnight it would not free up land to grow crops and only a small amount of grain would be freed up for other uses. And that's not even touching on regenerative agriculture, the fruit of Alan Savory's studies which mimics the natural herd migration of grazing mammals and is a carbon sink opening up tremendous financial opportunity for farmers who embrace this method when a price has been put on carbon pollution.
Liked this post - I gave them a pass on the stories and the food but your comments are not incorrect. The movie was meant to enable a change in some people. Once they are open to change then we can sneak up on them with the Kale.
This is my perspective, life long meat and 3 veg type of guy with lots of whey protein in between. I really like how some of the information in the documentary was presented and got me thinking about what I'm eating and how I can bring more balance into my diet.
@@rev0luci0n Hope it goes well for you! It was Forks Over Knives that did it for me almost 8 years ago. Steak, eggs and cheese - poof! I used to warn people not to watch it unless they coud take the risk of then wanting to change! Amazing changes for me - who knew I loved bok choy and apples and blueberries and brown rice and beans, beans, beans and what the heck is this quinoa stuff??!! :) OK now i have to go watch the MackaB Wha Me Eat video!
Found this in recommended videos and I must say I was blown away with how unbiased this review was. Based on the title I thought it was gonna be a hit piece but it was excellent.
The Plant based diet does not recommend removing animal products entirely. They mean that approximately 90-95% healthy whole plant products and 5-10% Healthy whole animal products to be included. "The Plant based diet" is not the same as a vegan or vegetarian diet. They are misleading about that in the movie. They recommend a plant based diet.
@David Chaplin I agree our ancestors were definitely omnivores and ate what ever was available. I said healthy whole plant food, asparagus, spinach, almonds, and other things like that. Grain and soy does have little nutritional value.
Thanks for your input. I went plant based March 2019 after getting flu. I also hydrate more. I'm 43 and in great shape. Game Changers just confirmed a lot of my reasons for the change but Dr. Sebi truly inspired me to change. Good luck to anyone looking to change. Also waking up with morning wood nearly every morning lets me know it's really real. 🤣
oh and please define great shape! in numbers please. weight, height, body fat, gym stats, heart rate stats etc. saying im in great shape MEANS NOTHING.
@@davidkay6590 I don't know my exact numbers but I'm 6'0 about 175 and I also workout 3 to 4 days a week. I also play in a basketball league year around. I may have some old videos somewhere on here being active and I'm in even better shape now. You can do it too. Good luck and good health first. ✌🏾
@@biggdawggstatus7626 fair enough but know this: you have a b12 and iron backup in your body for about a year. in two years you ll suffer on multiple levels from deficiencies. be so smart to get educated AS FUCK on this subject and minutely measure and pick the foods you really need to keep your ferritin levels high. as a man this is easier (no period) but you shouldnt get cut and loose blood etc. i met a man (literally yesterday) who is a RAW VEGAN, in the 3rd year and he is losing his hair, sick all the time, pale skin. gets angry when you ask what he eats. thats what im talking about. dont be that guy. we need healthy strong humans, not self destructive soy boys/girls. good luck and im happy if you feel great and are active. but its been only 6-7 months.. watch out watch out
@@biggdawggstatus7626 oh and nearly forgot. im 40, i have a showing sixpack, im stronger than with 20, i lift more i run faster longer etc. i eat meat once a week and dairy daily, fruits and veggie, nuts etc, the whole natural enchelada. always cook, never eat a prepared/processed/microwaved meal. no sugar, no alcohol, no cigs. 8hrs sleep. ive done vegan for a couple a months to see what is like... sure you lose weight (aka water), feel healthier, cause you eat less/more healthy. but it comes at a price you ll pay once your b12 and iron has run out. EVERY doctor will subscribe to this.
Eating animals sickened by corn is not a good idea. Their tissue is mostly made of Carbon 13. Most plants are made up of Carbon 12, except for corn, which is made of Carbon 13. Probably when one switches to a grain based diet, they too will be eating a lot more corn and soy and roundup.. yum.
@@annberry8149 if u look into Indian vegetarian dishes, they hardly ever use soya so if u do switch then u can easily get without even soya and corn products.
@@MrAceekidd Bill Clinton's administration mandated that all grains be "fortified" with made-in-China synthetic folic acid. Indian dishes have wheat-based dishes.. Wheat, in the United States, isn't fit for consumption by man or animal.. Indian dishes also contain millet, sorghum, barley, amaranth, and spelt. These are probably "enriched" with made-in-china synthetic folic acid too ...Since 1998, the government has required breads, cereals, pasta, flour, rice, cornmeal and other grain products, be fortified with folic acid. In a large percentage of people, are not able to metabolize that synthetic. It builds up and probably contributes to our cancer epidemic. I don't feel good on a vegetarian diet.. unless I'm needing a lot of sugar and starch... for quick energy... or unless I want to gain weight.
@@annberry8149 I'm from the UK, and we have a balanced diet here not only meat base. What's your diet like, because of your comment it seems it's mostly meat based.
Meat of pastured, humanly-raised beef is included in most meals. I try to get cuts that have the most fat. Low fat diets, I think, are bad for humans. It sounds like I eat mostly meat, but I don't I eat a lot of non-starchy vegetables, but I think just listening to people praise vegetarian diets makes my blood sugar spike. If the water is fluoridated where the vegetable are grown, you going to get fluoride. Fluoride is the most reactive element in the periodic table. It tears molecules apart. It can't be filtered out of water.. without a special filters...because it's smaller than a water molecule. Vegetables take up pollutant like fluoride and arsenic..
great review. Thanks. I've been vegetarian since I was 22 (that was 1973 so 47 years now). I have had excellent health and good energy levels but a couple of years ago I had an ulnar nerve problem and went to a top sports doctor. Tested for blood levels of vitamin D and B12 and found I was low in D and deficient in B12. Supplementing isn't difficult.
you make a very important point! that's why in the followup video on HOW to eat more plants safely I specifically covered vitamin needs: ua-cam.com/video/AksLcCh8uh8/v-deo.html
Thats very important not just for plant based eaters but also meat eaters. Everyone is defficient in those nowadays
@Bruce T. Wayne Most of Americans are meat eaters. Most of Americans are massively deficient in essential nutrients. I'd like to find how many vegan/vegetarians died from covid. Let me know when you find that huge number. Considering most had diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, and so on, you're going to have fun looking for that needle in a haystack. Just like anything else, not all vegetarians/vegans are healthy, however as a group are generally healthier, they exercise more and make better health choices overall. Health isn't as simple as eating meat or not. BTW... Joe Rogan supplements with all sorts of things, including 5000iu daily Vit D.
@@thehummermeister8992 And don't talk about a "natural" diet when you talk about meat, because most meat requires a lot of stabilizing chemicals like pork etc. Or else you will get sick and die. They do this in huge work places before they even sell it to stores for them to sell it to us. And besides, we are the only "omnivore" like any other herbivore that has the same brain part which is responsible for feeling guilt, having feelings for other beings etc. Which actual omnivores and carnivores miss. So they don't feel bad for their prey, if they also had that same brain part, they would die because their bodies absolutely need meat to survive (because their bodies can't synthesize missing aminoacids like creatine and l_carnitine etc; AND EVERY HERBIVORE just like us CAN) Also there are no typical omnivore or carnivore characteristics if you look at our intestines and organs or organ structure. Also our stomach acid PH is comparable to Herbivores and not omni and carnivores. And... we are the only ones that use a chemical reaction to get rid of most of the bacteria and diseases in meat by cooking it, which are harmless for actual omnivores and carnivores. But not herbivores, this partly has to do with our weak stomach acids. And you have to remember we only started controlling fire about 2 million years ago, and we have existed for over 800 million years if you believe evolution theory, meaning we could only have eaten meat without cooking it before that time. So how exactly is that natural? And besides, who the fuck even cares about something being natural or not, lets just do the things that are best for us and our health, instead of things that are natural. It's also natural to rape and kill but this also isn't automatically good. So I really don't see your point.
@@thehummermeister8992 Define natural?
Whether you eat meat or not, most people in the US don’t eat enough plant food and do eat too much processed food.
coudn't agree more
Processed food is not meat.. Most people in the US eat a grain based diet...
Most new 'plant based' foods made as alternatives to burgers, while being processed too. Its just a marketing push, lots of the vegan alternatives are filled with oil and other unhealthy stuff. Most vegans i know are fat, lol.
@@eliteviktor3 Yes, the vegans ARE fat. And the calorie restriction one's are so irritable and miserable they'd probably be better off fat. The government and big agriculture desperately want people to eat grains, especially corn products and wheat. And I guess big pharma likes us eating corn too. People have been watching, listening, reading nothing but propaganda (thank to Clinton's deregulation of the media..so that big money, like made-in-china General Electric, bought and control everything we see, hear, and read.) People think commentary garbage .. contains facts ... People think facts are opinions.. We're basically too stupid to survive much longer thanks to TV, the rest of the media, and unregulated pollution... And then there's the lead and fluoride in our water and food... and air.. Yes, we are too stupid.
Most processed food is made from plant food, namely, corn, soy, wheat or rice that has been genetically modified and soaked in round up. Even sodas are made of corn...
Regarding running 2 marathons a day, I will just say that I worked in an exercise physiology and human performance lab at a major university that was also a distance runner mecca. There was one of the most massive studies of running ever done there and there was an inverted U of health benefits from running that peaked at about 25-30 miles per week (over a 6 month period) and completely disappeared by 60 miles a week. These were elite runners. By the time they were averaging 60 miles a week their chance of a major negative health incident was equal to a completely sedentary person. These were measures of ACTUAL health incidents, not health hazard ratios. At 90 miles a week, the runners were 20% more likely to have a major negative health incident than a sedentary individual, and 40% more likely than a runner maintaining 30 mile a week average. Running greatly improves health, but 85% of the benefits occur at about 15 miles a week, and none occur above 30.
That is fantastic news! I read it and other sources, but not in places where I had a chance to say how glad I was to know that I’ve not wasted my life by not becoming an elite runner. I wonder what is analogous in walking to 15 miles of running a week? Not willing to take that on.
I've read a few articles about this and that's why after training and running one marathon years ago I decided to never run more than a 10k event.
That's so interesting. Did the number of runs / length of each run matter as well?
@@aenab.4596 Most of the runners were 10K runners who ran 5-10 K almost every day and often ran twice a day.
I wonder if this applies to weight training
I just had to write this and give you a compliment for your jokes. I think that you are one of the very few nutritionists on YT that is legit, that I can learn from, but at the same time laugh my ass off. Good job buddy, keep it up!
At 70 I started a vegan diet. At 71 I went to my doctor for a physical, he looked at me, looked at my blood work, looked at me again, and asked if I was seeing another doctor. He saw I hadn't renewed my prescriptions for Lisinopril or Pravastatin. My cholesterol was down and my blood pressure was normal, without my meds! Anecdotal, or scientific proof? That's science to me! One test is worth a thousand expert opinions.
Love itttt, enjoy your awesome lifestyle 👊🏼
Is it the vegan diet that helped you or actually stopping eating junk food?
😂😂😂😂in every diet comments section i see someone claiming how the diet made them healthier 😂😂😂😂
You probably switched from a "dirty" diet to a clean diet. That's probably why there's an improvement, not necessarily that you abandoned meat.
@@honestcommenter8424his cholesterol went down because a vegan diet contains ZERO cholesterol. Seriously, look it up. If you have cholesterol issues, a vegan diet will absolutely do wonders for you, no question. Has nothing to do with how “clean” the diet is. The cleanest eggs are full of cholesterol. Vegan diets, no matter how processed or crappy you want to make them, will always have zero cholesterol. If you weren’t eating clean, then switch to a healthy whole foods vegan diet? You’ll see improvements in other areas as well.
I didn’t think there could be a non biased review of the documentary. Great work!
One thing I noticed is that the only meat-based diet they mentioned in their studies is the traditional western diet. I understand that a large amount of Americans consume this diet, but it leads to skewed results. Obviously, if you switch from a diet that revolves around McDonald’s to a plant-based diet, you will see a large decrease in chronic diseases and an improvement in overall health. I would be more interested to see the results of somebody who practices a more healthy meat-based diet, such as the Mediterranean diet, which involves many vegetables and healthy fats, switching to a plant-based diet. It was definitely an interesting documentary either way.
check the adventist study. It's all there. Biggest formalised nutritional study ever.
Exactly. Most people are doing it wrong. I eat meat and a lot of plants. My biomarkers are as good as it gets along with energy, strength and performance
@Marc Hlavac You can get short-chain omega 3 from crushed some seeds, nuts and beans, which is then converted to long-chain omega 3. I read there's still a debate among nutritional scientists about whether you optimally need the long-chain omega 3's directly - but you can also get that from algae (supplements) like fish do. 1tbsp of grounded flax seeds per day is enough to get an abundance of short-chain omega 3 fatty acids - and then it's important to stay low on omega 6 - because the balance between them is what matters - I've read about ratios of 1:1 to 4:1 but it seems like it is oversimplifying. So case in point, it's not necessarily a problem - but definitely something vegans need to know.
@PickleRick Good point, just one correction: the Mediterranean diet (at least the one that's marketed as such) is generally considered a plant-based or plant-predominant diet, and definitely not a meat-based diet. Meat is supposed to constitute only a small percentage of the food in it.
"traditional western diet" who invented that term? I know what you are talking about, AKA Standard American Diet. But you might as well call it "I don't know how to boil water and never drank a glass of water in my life"-diet. To me a traditional (still super common and probably ubiquitous 20-30 years ago where I live) diet would be pretty much a plant based diet, a lot of white potatoes and bread, grains and various vegetables, with some modest amounts of meat and other more luxurious products like butter.
hey man, a vegan here. Great video, a very calm, unbiased, rational dissection of the documentary. subbed!
thanks!!! and welcome!!! :)
Los Fromla you listen to shawn baker? You are very dumb. All the meat eaters I talk to even admit that guy doesn’t know anything 😂
@Los Fromla, Shawn “pre-diabetic” Baker?
@Los Fromla, his records aren’t particularly impressive. He is setting records in a category of “past their prime” men. Let me know when he starts setting records in the 18-29 range. The man has eaten himself into diabetes, as well as eating himself into disproportionately low levels of testosterone.
I’ve watched some of his review (what little I could see from all of the eye rolling) and I found it to be extremely biased. The majority of his debunking is not rooted within science. He’s not in the market of accuracy, he’s in the market of selling his diet.
@Los Fromla, that isn’t true in the slightest. You simply can’t make a claim and it be true. Some athletes featured have been vegan since birth, and continue to be vegan. There was also no noticeable drop in performance. No one has been able to corroborate that claim.
I watched the whole thing. It’s intellectually devoid, scientifically inaccurate, and self aggrandizement on Shawn’s behalf. He utterly fails to support the majority of what he says, and what little he does support, he uses biased sources. I will admit that he wasted 51 minutes of my time in order to defend his diet. The entire video is a desperate attempt to dismiss his competition, while literally making things up as he does along. You should be ashamed.
I have been eating meat my whole life then started plant based 3 years ago and i have to say i do feel better after eaten.I wish I'd done it years ago.
That's probably because you've started eating more veg not because you cut meat. Balance.
It's because you probably eat less protein which is very hard to digest. Also the biggest problem would be, you at not enought fiber and stuff and it all makes add up. I do mostly eat meat + vegie in every meal and i do feel great. I do run sport test every year and my body is in 26yo like 16yo.
It's all about the diet not about if plant or not... you can compare hamburger to salad...
But great to hear you are feeling great :)
@@vlads.3192
Lol... No. We're very efficient at digesting protein
@@clarenceboddiker9559 Well, you can be efficient, but its not easy for body to digest it. Coz if you eat vegies it contains a lot of water and water doesnt need to be diggest, so if you are plantbased and you eat fresh, your digesting is much faster but not that effective. You probably understood it wrong... Ofc we are very efficient at digesting protein.. but it takes time
@@vlads.3192
No... Just stop. You're clueless.
I know in the movie they did show some Vegan junk food, but on the game changers website there is a bunch of whole food recipes.
oh that's good to know!! :)
precisely! they were only showcasing the "vegan junk food" for the argument of "I would go vegan, but pizza/but donuts/but etc". They made it pretty clear throughout the whole documentary that an ideal diet is a whole-foods, plant-based diet. I already know, since going vegan, that whenever I have highly processed foods (the cheeses, meats, and ready-to-eat meals) I still feel so groggy and low on energy. I think these heavy meals for the athletes are their cheat days! haha Patrick goes all out!
@@koalsa4120 I love Jared Leto's definition of himself. A "cheagan". He is mainly plant based but sometimes cheats with vegan junk food. As a PB myself (I have been for years) I too find myself bloated and stuffed when I go processed. However the processed vegan food was what got my hubby on board. Today he has no doubts about preferring a lentil ragù to a tofu one. But that got him going. BTW hubby is 46 and an amateur boxer since 40.
Some vegan junk food🤣🤣🤣
This is all a waste of time and poor science study (from everyone, all sides of the food and diet aisle). We are no longer in the last century - lets speak about what we know today, this century, this decade; Humans make their own proteins and amino acids. All species do (plants, animals, bacteria, etc.). We are no different. It does not matter what u eat, so long as it can convert to glucose - and all whole foods, raw and fresh can do this - INCLUDING MEAT. All species, we are all, inherently, fundamentally, glucivores.
If the point of the movie was to get more people to consider adopting a habit of eating less animal products than I think it was successful. Therefore their approach was effective.
yes, it better to eat less meat if you are a fat shitty overweight human being. go on a diet. stop eating that deep fried shit. but what does this have to do with what humans need biologically? zero. my recommendation: google the vegan vloggers who got sick as f*ck and then changed back to dairy and meat and then got ROASTED by their psycho fans. disgusting.
David Kay its not the diet that make them get iron deficiency etc, its their lack of knowledge when it comes to nutrition.
You cant just turn vegan eating only cucumbers hoping to get healthy, you have to edjucate yourself and look up what minerals, vitamins & fats we have to eat to survive and live healthy. Then you look up which plant based foods that are containing those things.
You should try learning more about the subject since you clearly dont have any idea of what you are talking about.
Maybe that will help push your head out of ur ass a little further.
@@lurreburre9167 my ass is where it belongs. im saying exactly what you are saying. couldnt agree more. BUT nobody does it. all they do is point their fingers at people who eat meat/dont agree and elevate themselves morally through it. they are no better than anyone else, just because of what they EAT. when they are clearly doing other things way worse for their health and our planet. im sick of people telling me how to live when they clearly have no understanding of the implications of dietary choices. again, im not against anything, live however the hell you want, im just fed up with the hippocrits trying to control me with their arrogance while being ignorant.
David Kay
yeah there are alot of people like that unfortunately. The dumb ones usually are the loudest. But most are just trying to help others out.
I agree, eat what you want i wont judge since i myself ate meat before i went vegan. Ive given up on trying to persuade people on trying the diet but im more than happy to help if they ask.
@@lurreburre9167 how do you know someone needs help? are you the overlord daddy or super helicopter mum? people can help themselves. help can only be given, when asked for. other than that you ll end up patronizing. my rule: never offer help, never deny it. you see? no persuasion needed, and people will see you as a resource for good shit, not the idiot who is trying to force opinions/rules/nonsense on them. lead by example. WIN
I watched game changers and have decided to just increase my whole food/vegetable intake.
@h. s I was going to say the same thing! DOMINION is the one that people need to see after The Game Changers ... this is NOT JUST ABOUT A DIET! ua-cam.com/video/iSpglxHTJVM/v-deo.html
Good job bro maybe you can go vegan one day!
very impartial , nice critique dude. 100% agree
Good idea to increase the whole food/vegetables!! however if you want to avoid heart disease then it maybe worth looking into how animal fats and proteins trigger the inflammatory response, especially on the endothelial cells (lining of the blood vessels). Inflammation also hinders recovery after exercise.
But it all depends if you find that important or not.
I had to stop eating animal proteins because I had a noticeable reaction to them.
I do also understand where the vegans are coming from after working on a farm recently and was upset how badly the animals were treated. It’s the first time it really hit home that we don’t actually have to kill to live.
I do understand the taste factor though, so hopefully those plant based meats that Bill Gates and other entrepreneurs are heavily investing in will take the place. Apparently they taste just like meat and have all the nutrients. Plus aren’t processed much either. Just heat and pressure on yellow pea protein to make the texture. And the perfect natural flavours added. Amazing actually!!
What a waste of time and poor science study (from everyone, all sides of the food and diet aisle). We are no longer in the last century - lets speak about what we know today, this century, this decade; Humans make their own proteins and amino acids. All species do (plants, animals, bacteria, etc.). We are no different. It does not matter what u eat, so long as it can convert to glucose - and all whole foods, raw and fresh can do this - INCLUDING MEAT. All species, we are all, inherently, fundamentally, glucivores.
I am so grateful to have found your channel. I have experienced two gout attacks recently and still recovering from one. I decided to make diet changes to avoid it in the future. I searched for advice and found quite a few videos on YT about the carnivore diet and decided to give it a try. I started for two days, felt a bit funny about the rather radical approach, and started digging for more information. After binge-watching many of your reviews I gained much more science-based knowledge and recognized the recklessness of many of the diet suggestions in the other videos. I would have surely added risks to my health if I were to follow those advice. Thank you for your effort to provide well-researched and referenced information on health issues. And it amazes me how many so-called experts are willing to risk other's life to gain some internet traffic. Please keep up the good work. This will be the only channel that I follow concerning healthy diets.
I'm not kidding, instant subscribe.
Such a neutral, kind and great review. Hitting all the key points, good and bad.
And bringing up the critical point of whole plants.
You, good sir, have done a great job..
thanks Robin!!
@Nasdaq trader I have one next to me in his 60ties, more than 30 years not eating meat, looks young for his age and is incredibly strong. But he stopped eating meat not because he read it somewhere, he just lost taste for it!
@Nasdaq trader Hmm, well there are plenty of vegetarians/vegan who dispose of your mummyhood theory.
Np matter what label we call ourselves or foods we eat, there is a staggering amount of ignorance about what nutrition the body requires and where to get it from.
It's just too much effort for most people to research, or they cant discern fact from fiction. So marketing and lobbyists win.
@Nasdaq trader that makes no sense lol my close and extended family are vegan and we look amazing, baby! 😆
Nasdaq trader 🧐ua-cam.com/video/O6oJA_xhTa8/v-deo.html
Great review. One of the best ones i've heard. I'm vegan and appreciate someone taking an unbiased view and making some great points.
I don't have to write a review of this review now, you did it for me.
@@chopsueykungfu And, me 🙂
He literally declared his bias towards plant-based diets in the video
Lol, unbiased? HAHAHAHA, you're funny.
Sounds like a typical plant based guy promoting the steaming pile of shit that is nutrition science. Just keep talking about those "studies" and "science" that promote the vegan agenda.
Blair Maffin and you just keep supporting animals slaughter 👍
The movie proves that you need to be a vegetarian to grow the most outrageous sideburns in the world.
Tried to channel Wolverine, but overshot by a mile.
Ironic "mutton chops"
@@theqball80
LOL
@Sean O'Lease
And you are kind of an ahole, not helpful
Vegan*
Brilliantly done. Objective, non biased, and shows your absolute professionalism. Congratulations man. You should host your own documentary.
thanks brother!
Wow. I think this is the only objective review of the movie I've seen on UA-cam. Great job. I'm a subscriber.
@@wreagfe I don't understand the point your trying to make. So it's a shit documentary?
@@wreagfe What are your credentials? Did you do the research shown on this film?
@@marekzmazur2077 geat movie. Life is not only muscle. Watch and be happy bro
yeah, the other are like "buh this movie sucks, here's why" -
This is a very fair and balanced critique. I've watched the movie and I believe you were very fair.
We don't need a balanced critique. We need to know the truth about veganism and this pushed movie because it destroy our health! It is therefore advisable to listen to ex vegans like Bobby: ua-cam.com/video/w2M8my9MW4c/v-deo.html
@@Freidenker888 that’s anecdotal evidence, if that’s the only thing you have to support your claim, then.. be ashamed
Listen to science, rather than influencers
There is a lot of good research done on plant based diets, and it shows that plants should make up a huge part of diets. But that documentary is an absolute abomination. They misrepresent so much data, cherry pick bad research, which isnt needed, and use deceit to push their point.
@@LeanAndMean44 fully agreed 👌🏾
Being a trained physician too, I agree with everything you said and thought the angles you chose to give your "opinion" (which is pretty close to being an undisputable scientific statement at this point) were on point. Great video!
Excellent critique! I completely agree that "whole plants" cannot be overstated and also that plant based junk food is not comparable. Funny, informative, and best of all you seem genuinely clear of the rabid emotional diet cling.
thanks Abdel! I have my preferences like everybody else but I do try to stay objective when stating my opinion in any public forum. Glad you liked it, man!
Yes! Well put!
Abdel Leon Cooper well put!
This guy looks like white abed from community
COOL COOL COOL
Does that make Abed "Brown This Guy?"
@@MrZilla if you wanna get racist about it
Bryce LongHere you go [ /s ] You dropped this.
What does that even mean
Why is everyone stuck to the gladiators, it was just mentioned because it made him to start looking in a particular direction.
@keto cycler because gladiators were slaves and were not given meat
@David Chaplin but unknowingly it was healthy
Because it’s a fucking anecdote presented as science , moron.
@David Chaplin ok may be you are right.. but is it sustainable?
@@DeepikaAditya The average life expentancy of a gladiator was 2 years. They were feeding them like pigs to bring them to the slaughterhouse.
If you are a gladiator that will die within 2 years go ahead, it will help you with wounds and with the profits of your master. Otherwise not very good for you.
The Perfect Analysis!
Vegan for ten years. Thank you very much for the great breakdown. Totally agree with you. I'm a subscriber now!
Seems like a pretty balanced and accurate review to me. I decided to reduce my meat intake substantially after watching it, almost to 100% plant based. I was already 99% convinced before the doco that it was a good idea, but it was the final push for me.
@Burner Fire See your mum in 7 years 👉🏽👌🏽👍🏽
dont be fooled by this vegan propaganda.Vegetables dont have over 15 nutrients. You need meat and fish sorry to burst your bubble.
@@ronz8816 would normal meat and fish from the supermarket be ok or they need to be sorry to burst my bubble in order to be effective?
Congrats for being open -minded, unlike many people :)
Very well brother, only fools will tell u need meat or milk from killing animals to be healthy 🤦♂️
Great points, Gil. Can't argue with any. Film had a budget of $3.5 million, by the way, not including the marketing & promo budget. Wilkes deserves a lot of credit for his tenacity and vision, assembling the people involved, and Rip Esselstyn brought a lot to the table here as well.
thanks Jeff!! yeah I loved the Rip scene. overall it's a good statement and I think it'll contribute to people eating a bit healthier. I'm seeing the repercussions in social media :)
I see some good comments up and down the comment section here on this video.
@@RedPillVegan yes I got great feedback, even the complaints I appreciate :)
Could you pay all people for the work, fly around the World, do scientific Test and Meet Famous people, buy Rights & ect for 3.5 Tausen Dollars? I don‘t think. Make a Documentary isn‘t Cheap Sir
The theory behind Gladiators being fed oats and beans prior to competition was that those foods thickened their blood so they could take some cuts and live to fight another day. Gladiators didn't need longevity. In fact, they had high stress hormone levels provoked in them.
I didn’t hear that the issue was about why they did it, but that it was a stretch to claim that that’s the way most of the gladiators ate, given the spotty evidence.
@@oolala53 It's a waste time to debate what gladiators ate regarding the movie, The Game Changers. James Wilks provided the anecdote to tell why he began studying nutrition. Period. It doesn't matter if it's true or false. He never made an argument that we need to eat like gladiators.
First critique which I've seen which wasn't just "vEgAnS aRe GaY fUk U, mEaT LiOnS ThO". Gave you a thumbs up.
hahaha that's hilarious, thanks man!!
Are you still really skinny on your silly diet?
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Are you really stupid on your silly diet?
@@imrandma he's the next lion that wins a Nobel prize.
Deer eat meat
Your critique and communication skills are on point. As a filmmaker, I fully agree with all points you made, and you seem to have a solid understanding of how storytelling works as to why they may have gone a certain route. Also there's so much validation/information you can cram in 1 1/2 hours AND keeping viewers engaged. One thing though is through a scientific lens you want to ignore sayings like "i feel better" or "more energized" etc... however when I went vegan (6 years ago), my biggest and most powerful drive to keep going (besides not supporting a murdering industry) was that I felt and still feel like I have more energy after eating. Mind you I have devoured fields of cows in the past and used to love the taste. Not so anymore. When I ate a vegan meal and didn't feel like sleeping on the keyboard, I was hooked. And that's why I believe they had that segment - they didn't try to validate it with science - it was just a selling point (which I identify with).
fair points!!!
Right, because plants aren't alive and he be can't be killed.
@@NutritionMadeSimple this wasn't a fact check 😅.
This was you cheerleading the movie.
How can you critique gamechangers and not mention the b12 claim?
@@NutritionMadeSimple lowering cholesterol in 7 days "reduces CVD risk"
It's like you are unaware of other risk factors such as obesity, diabetes or insulin resistance
We need more people like you in the world. Unbiased and truth seeking attitudes builds bridges instead of dividing us.
Keep it up!
Ash Mannerheim I’m voting for him for president!
Biased and fake seems to be the bridges in this movie... much like fox and the media
@@annberry8149 Well if you really think that you do the movie an astonishing amount of injustice. if you are interesstet and honest watch ua-cam.com/video/ZTyGP5hCtBQ/v-deo.html and then make up your mind.
@@annberry8149 the majority of humans are biased from birth if you've ever stop to question why the majority of people habitually act upon what they've always seen and done.
@@YZ450f24 I agree. I am biased towards the diet of my great grand parents, my grand parent, and my parents. The diet was meat at every meal, vegetables, fruit.. milk. I don't remember ever eating beans or soy ... If we wanted to NOT be fat we didn't eat any kind of bread.. and we cut back on potatoes... and gave up pies, cakes, and candy... They might would have been considered under weight by today standards .. They didn't exercise, go to the gym, walk much or do heavy work.. We didn't have fortified or enriched food.. We didn't have corn oil or really any kind of vegetable oil.... we just had butter ..that we spread on bread and put on potatoes.
I've been an athlete all my life, and workout 4-5 times a week for last 18 years. When I was younger it was all about eating a ton of meat with every meal. 7-8 years ago I started cutting back on my red meat and processed food before the vegan thing really took off. I did it mainly to family factors. High blood pressure, diabetes run in my family so as I get older I dont want to possibly have to deal with that stuff. I still enjoy a steak, burger from time to time but bulk of my meat intake is chicken or fish, and I eat a ton more veggies/fruit now. To me its about balance and it seems to be working for me
In the video it says that chicken and meat are almost the same when it comes to artery hardening
@@breadfan9 exactly. Chicken especially has almost identical levels of saturated fat as red meat.
But it’s not just the saturated fat at issue, as harmful as that is. It’s the actual animal PROTEIN that causes inflammation and disease.
Unprocessed meat, fish, fruit, vegetables, nuts, and a few carbs: is a great diet. With some indulgence foods just to keep the joy in life.
@@calisongbird It depends on the cuts of meat you are getting. I specifically eat the leanest cuts of chicken and red meat
YOU WERE THE BEST DEBUMKER SO FAR, THE MOST HONEST WITHOUT TAKING ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER
If everyone would be vegans then the big agriculture which is soy, wheat, corn will make more profits... and the chemical corporations... Bayer and Monsanto .. and processes foods corporations will make bigger profits.. and big pharma will make more profits from the resulting chronic diseases...and people will die around retirement age so the government can steal more social security money..
@@annberry8149 soy, wheat and corn producers' largest customers are animal farmers. What do you think the vast majority (literally 99%) of industrially grown animals eat?
@@GregVidua I've tried 4 times to respond... I give up. Eat your cancerous grains.
@@annberry8149Evidence please.
I am receiving my minor in nutrition and I am really happy to have found your channel. I really appreciate you spreading information like this. It is critical to the health and longevity of people in the US. I have enjoyed looking at the research looking at mental health and nutrition recently. Another important topic today.
During Gladiators time, meat was a treat reserved to the rich, so it made sense for them to be vegetarian, since they were slaves
khryzbr they ate to get fat deliberately to reduce slash and cut injuries
Healthy young humans can tolerate a high carbohydrate diet for decades, so it really makes no point. I could eat anything in my 20's.
The chronic diseases related to high insulin levels don't usually manifest much before age 50 although they are starting younger now.
Billy97 oh youre one of those idiots that thinks high carbs are bad.
Billy97 my ex bf had a massive heart attack at age 26 and another at age 28. Age doesn’t matter. The point is you need to eat more plant food.
Ima Purnomo he has a weak ticker. No plants were going to help that.
Thanks for the info Doc!! A while back I remember seen a documentary about a Russian 100+ year old men, during the interviews he was asked what was his secret when it came to nutrition, to which he replied, I have no secret diet, I eat everything and anything in moderation and eat just enough to calm my hunger, not to stuff my face.
I have watch many people online 100+ nd all hv different diet some r complete vegan, heavy bacon lover, some r even smokers n drinkers
Even my great grandma drank rice beer who was 95+ nd was totally fit
But the common thing they share was LESS STRESS
@@chaol7770 yes of course im 17 years old and I eat everything. You know my Mother know some her friend. And he did never drink never smoke, he even washed his hand everyday, he showered everyday. Well im showerung everyday to. But yes. But unfortunelly he died very Young 32 years he had because of cancer. Well maybe People really die when they finish their mission on earth. As the God said. When many peolple saw God in heaven he said to the when you finish your mission you Will Come here. But now you must go down there. Even ancestors said this in heaven. Well its Just a theory. I mean for you. But for me IS a truth. Am I right. Well answer me please. If you have something to comment to me.
Watched it tonight! Already knew most of this stuff and I’m currently about 80% plant based diet but this documentary made me want to bump it up to about 95%. This is coming from a guy who used to eat McDonald’s and Taco Bell 6 times a week. Plant based life has changed my life for the better 100%. That Sugar Film and Forks Over Knives were both a better watch in my opinion 🌱 ❤️
If eating taco bell and McDonald's is considered a meat diet than eating doritos is plant based.
you re a fool for thinking stopping mcdonalds and taco bells is making you feel better is because you dont eat meat anymore. you dont eat disgusting FAST FOOD anymore.THAT IS why you feel better. it doesnt matter if its vegan or meat. fast food is crap. dont feel too proud of yourself for cutting out the most obvious bullshit in your life. now, stop smoking, dont drink alcohol and you ll get an extra 25 years. thank me when you are 90. too silly.
if you eat junk food 6 times a week, just eating sand and grass will make you feel better. oh and you hydrate more. can you hear the masses clap for you?
@@wadeobryan4175 😐
@@Didier-cu6cb go ahead tell me how tacobell and McDonald's is representive of a balanced diet that includes meat.
Is meat bad. What about egg and fish.
WOW! That's the fairest, most honest critique of ANY video on nutrition I've ever seen. My hat's off to you sir!
I appreciate that!
It's always great to hear your take on these diet debates. I appreciate you bringing us the facts.
I just watched the documentary recently and didn’t know it was so old. Anyway, I follow u and have been changing my diet and after watching the documentary decided to go plant based only. That was about 5 weeks ago. It’s a little hard because I have to learn about nutrition and also how to cook plant based food so it tastes delicious. Is a process but I am sticking to it. I haven’t eaten red meat in approximately 40 years and only about 5 years ago decided to eat chicken and turkey again. Now I’m going back to my pescatarian diet, fish once in a while because I am the only one in the house going plant based and need something to eat with them.
Thank u for all the information and especially for the way u explain concepts and ideas.
Great job!!
Of all the vegan documentaries, what I love about this one, is you are left with a feeling of hope and happiness. Unlike so many others, which are important, and welll done and have their place, you feel angry though, angry at the system. Not this movie.
great point! I agree positivity is more productive
@@NutritionMadeSimple I also felt a sense of pride in these athletes. I'm a big fan of Patrick Baboumian. He's an amazing human being. Damien Mander as well.
This film will help push people in the right direction. I know one guy who was a huge meat eater and is overweight. He has seen this movie 6 times, he and his wife went plant based as a result. I don't mind that people will eat some vegan junk food during their transition, because it helps them get away from an animal-based diet. Then they can slowly transition from that, to eating a Whole Foods plant-based diet. Charity Morgan admitted that she sneaks nutrition in her food! I love that! Those big strong athletes don't see boring health food, they enjoy fueling their bodies. Much love to them all!
The movie Unity (2015) ends with hope too!. It's the sequel to Earthlings but more about humanity and the whole planet in general, which veganism ties into.
You got this right! I am a vegetarian for over a year and 2020 is going to be the start of veganism. Already, I am just stoked. In the last two weeks, I ate more diverse and very tasty vegan dished as I normally do as a vegetarian. I like sporting more then ever and I feel more happy. I really didn’t thought that this diet or lifestyle could make life more happy in general.
@@elizabethelias1005 I wouldn't get your hopes up about athletes when it comes to the vegan diet. Many athletes don't start out as vegans, so they build their bodies while eating meat. Athletes are also known to use enhancing drugs in general, which skews the results of their diets. Some athletes that go vegan do experience one or two years of excellent results but often will fail after that. Veganism can be done by some people but it surely doesn't give someone superiour health, strength and stamina.
Great review, very balanced-love how you consider why the film makers may have chosen not to go beyond animal vs plant. I think the anecdotes were an important way to get the attention of young people who aren’t motivated by fear of heart attack or weight gain. I loved how the film motivated my 17 year old son to try to eat more plant based!
Unbiased, concise and scientific! Pretty hard to get all three in one video, however yours has done so perfectly. Great job!
He didn't mention the ridiculously stupid battle ropes claim
He did okay.. but a bit biased.. biolayne one was better tbh
Wow, your empathy and breakdown here is so unique to anyone else I have heard on nutrition science. Thank you for your objectivity and practical view points that take into consideration that some people are suffering and find it so hard to feel better and help themselves. You understand the human experience. Thank you.
Yes, as a vegan, I was also upset about them not putting enough focus on ‘whole-foods’ as that is really what eating vegan should be all about as there is a big difference between being a vegan and being a healthy vegan...but I see your point about people not getting with that and agree with it...overall amazing review, so happy it wasn’t bias, thank you!
Yep. Whole foods vegan is the way to go. Big difference from just not eating animal products to eating potatoes and lentils and whole grain stuff.
Finally, just a unbiased, really well put together video.
This really does bring a complex debate into a straightforward decision making process on diet.
I like your unbiased approach - as a doctor, cancer survivor (35 years), nutritionist for 50 years, I sit at 70 in the best shape of my life - in awe of whole foods and plant based diets - they work for me, and my chronic degenerative disease patients. There is a place for non-plant based food, but you have to catch it, raise it and eat the way our genes (ethnicity counts) allow us. (Think Kenya and corn mush... sub 2hour marathons) Fibre is a nutrient to 90% of your biomass.. just saying.
I really enjoyed The Game Changers, it was engaging & fun to watch. That said, your review is on point!
I went plant based 4 years ago. I lost a bunch of weight, healed my non-alcoholic fatty liver, regulated my cholesterol, etc. After a few years, however, I became physically disabled. An old back injury became debilitating almost over night. After a lot of research & medical consults, i realized that many of my problems were related to my age (46,) hormonal changes & nutrient deficiencies for my specific needs! I needed more omega-3 & calcium. Supplements weren’t cutting it. I reintroduced salmon & full fat dairy, & all of my symptoms improved. I am still primarily plant based, and in the future I hope to go back to a fully plant based lifestyle; but for now, I am prioritizing my health. I’m stronger & I feel better❤
Dietary choices are very personalized.
I totally agree with your pet peeves. I believe those producing the film would as well and that your guesses about why they made these choices are correct.
Another really nice video. I cannot understand why more folks haven't found your channel yet.
thanks!! I tried to stay objective hehe. I've seen so many biased reviews of this movie, discounting it before even watching...
I did. Subscribed.
I think you are both right about the motivations, they are gearing the whole thing toward the manly, man crowd... people in fitness who are really into the meat head, bro science stuff. You can only get so technical with them at first... you need to win over their stomachs first.
The biggest point of the doc was, for me just the fact that there could be top athletes in multiple sports that don’t need meat.
Has anyone ever claimed the contrary? Feel like it's a straw man argument. You can be a great athlete and a vegan but to put it down to the diet only that's where I'm parting company. Great unbias review by the way.
@@modernistmatt2658 People still ask this frequently in vegan and plant-based forums.
Modernist Matt no one said if you go vegan you will be the best athlete in the world. That is a straw man.
Modernist Matt yes people have. Insufficient protein is a common “reason”
none of the peopel interviewed actually do that well on a vegan diet. or rather, they were already doing well as athletes on a non vegan diet, but then go on a vegan diet and do not thrive as vegans. it doesn't mean they can no longer function as athletes. Only that the movie kind of suggests that the vegan diet is what leads to their prowess. Most of the people interviewed were already really successful on a non vegan diet, who go vegan after the fact. and if we look at their actual times and records most do worse after eating vegan diets.
This is not even necessarily proof that veganism is bad. Only that they are already halfway thorugh career before going on vegan diet. And their times do suffer. But their times may have already suffered as they are in the tail end of their career.
I think the real question is, can you read a forest plot?
Alex Botham I’m just a combatives expert
dude, I have master's level nutritional education.
lol..
@@madsteeez I loved it when Joe Rogan finally said, "What does that mean? Masters-Level education?" lol
Alex Botham as a Forest Technologist yes I can read a forest plot. My question would be what kind of forest plot are you talking about because there are many?
Thank you for the video. The plant-based community (of which I am a member) does have a problem with embracing false claims that are consonant with its values. It's good to have people like you to be a voice for reservation.
I've watched this documentary twice and I must say that your review is one of the best ones I've heard so far! Very honest and unbiased with a lot of common sense. I did notice when I watched the second time that they don't really use the word vegan just people eating a mostly plant-based diet. I don't eat red meat but I do eat chicken and I feel like most of my diet is pretty healthy. I understand what you say about the junk food but I must say that the food in the Tennessee Titans segment look absolutely delicious! I just subscribed to your channel and look forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you
thanks Scott!!! welcome!
Thank you for being a rational voice in this "my-dad-is-stronger-than-yours"-debate.
I've recently gone on a plant based diet I used to gym 5 days a week. And I'm stronger and fitter. My recovery is quicker. I couldn't train Arms because of tendonitis. Can can now. My mood is better I'm sleeping better my eyesight is better my memory is better. And I haven't felt this great in a long time.. my diet was mainly chicken and rice steak rice. Sweet potato little bits and veg. Now it's pure meat and dairy-free. I've got bigger and stronger
You also stopped eating eggs?
Same. Been practicing parkour for 12 years. And vegan for 5. So I can definitely tell the difference between before and after.
One of the strongest shifts for me was to start juicing leaves. Read about it in a book on RAW veganism and it's another GAME CHANGER for sure.
Dean Grant In terms of actually putting TASTY meals together on a vegan diet, how do you go about it, because it’s very, very limited?
@@UsyksmashedFurytwice It's not limited at all. Any basic cooking ingredient used for standard dishes like noodles, rice, potatoes are all available on a vegan diet. The only huge difference you have when cooking vegan is that you have to use different binding agents for sauces and similar things, since you have no more access to eggs or butter. But for that you have things like Tomato paste, or avocados, which can be used to great effect for similar function, depending what kind of 'taste' you're going for with your sauce. Alot of traditional cuisines also have a laundry list of classically vegan meals. Eastern European Vegetable soups, Asian Rice dishes, Nut based pastes, etc.
The taste profile for Vegan meals also isn't restricted. Sweet, sour, savory, whatever taste you tend to fancy you can achieve via vegan meals. If you like spicey food for example all your peperonis and anchovis and w/e are available. if you like Sweet and sour shit you can still use balsamico vinegar and honey.
And if you're on a rush, Vegan snacks are simple and plenty around aswell. Just grab two pieces of Fruit (You'll start even exploring more outlandish fruits you never tried like pomegranate and w/e), or buy a bag of unprocessed Nuts like Cashews. One package of 200g contains enough protein and calories to fill you up for almost an entire day.
@@Afura33 yes bro stop eating all dairy product and animal which include egg
I've had a bad time looking for the facts of the documentary, this video was the first good source I've found. Great job!!!
In the experiment with the athletes and their blood did show his plant fat came from avocado, not processed oil so I think that was covered.
Logan Waltz I mean, that’s literally the meat industry in a nutshell.
Thank you so much! I have to analyse this documentary for a project in school and this is really helpful as it is a long documentary with a lot of facts to take in. I found the documentary really interesting, but it is also really cool to hear about the actual facts being proven and checked. You were not one-sided so its a lot easier to check your facts, without the bias. Thank you!
I eat "whole food plant based". It was refreshing to see an unbiased review of the movie. Well done!
We should not trust any advisor blindly. They can be right about one thing and wrong about another. It's always best to check their references and seek a second opinion from someone else. People tend to believe what they want to hear. If someone says it's good to eat pizza and burgers all day, drink Coke, and that you don't have to drink water if you don't want to, I might be tempted to follow them wholeheartedly
To your point on the complexity of eating vs a simple "meat vs plants" argument, I did keep hearing a variety of the use of "vegan", "plant based" and "whole food plant based" throughout the movie. I feel they tried to brush over that complexity of not all plant based food is healthy just like not all meats are bad for you. this movie is certainly a good talking point and does get the point across of the benefits of transitioning to plant based. I am not 100% plant based as I do still love eggs, cheese and bacon but I have cut back significantly after more of these documentaries have come out. The appeal to me for switching is more towards the amount of resources required for livestock.
And that you don't have to kill to eat.
10 days in and my back pain and tightness I've had for 15+ years is the best it's been since I can remember. My head is clearer and I already have more energy. Regardless of where someone sits, the American diet is not healthy. The wealthiest country in the world is the sickest for a reason.
I did Keto for 26 straight days, I was trying to make it to 30 and couldn't, I felt so much worse that I had to hang it up. How am I malnourishing myself? What in meat can't I get some other way? I'm not anti meat, I've eaten it my entire life and will probably work it back in to some degree at some point. Eat a raw goat for all I care, do what you're going to do.
And no I didn't do Keto wrong. I had several well known recipe books and followed it very closely.
Oh yeah listen to keto cycler, if he says veganism is bad it must be true 😂
@keto cycler so essential that there are people who've been vegan for 30 years and are still alive. I better go check the meaning of essential.
@keto cycler so you know all the vegans in the world? You do know life doesn't end on UA-cam right? Most people don't feel the need to record their lives and share their story. How many healthy 30 year keto diet people are there?
Really like the way you review, seems unbiased. Keep up the work.
Love your channel!
7:30 Sir, you just win my respect.
After watching Game Changer I have decided to cut down some of the dairy products and meat atleast for a month to see the results. Hope it works for me.
Hetal Patel it will! You got this!
Lol im doing the same, on day 4 right now and feeling good.
I switched to mostly whole plants 2 years ago - best decision for my health ever!
Reducing dairy is common sense. No need to remove
I have been vegan for 1 year now, al my blood levels are great, including b12 (I am using a suplement of course). The doctors don't believe how great my levels are.
Excellent review. I've been vegan for decades and watched The Game Changers for the second time yesterday, as I have found myself coming into increasing conflict with animal-eaters in recent years and wanted to broaden my knowledge. I think you make many good points. As a scientist myself, I absolutely wanted to see more hard science in there and appreciated those sections where the source material was shown. On the other hand, I was OK with the anecdotal stuff. It added a human touch, and it was noticeable that these athletes were people who had started out as animal-eaters, and had changed at some point, so they did at least have a valid comparison to make from their own personal experience. I agree with you that since this was a documentary on improving physical function, the lack of emphasis on a really good whole plant plant-based diet was something of a failure. As you said, I think they were just trying to sell the idea that you can eat all your regular (junk) foods, but just make them out of plants - fine if you are just trying to save animals from abuse, but not so good in a doc trying to promote plant-based food for health.
Every meat options examples were deep fried and high processed food
@@Milagros81 Which for the SAD diet is generally correct
thanks
My mother has lived on a plant base diet her whole life. Stayed fit never smoked moderate drinker. She's now in her 60s and and has cancer throughout her body
You rock ahaha apreciate the displayed objective observation skills and the dry humour!
Will be back for more
I was sceptic at first but damn, you have done an amazing job at reviewing the movie! Subscribed!
I watched the movie in theater before the Netflix release and really liked it. I have always been am omnivore, and the movie didn't change that. However, it did cause me to reevaluate just how much meat I eat, and probably more importantly for me personally it prompted me to do more independent research and adapt my diet to be better overall, such as by dramatically reducing sugar intake and eating more whole foods as you suggest.
I thought you did a great job analyzing the pros and cons of the movie. Thanks for putting this out there!
i have myself cut back on beef about 90 percent and pork about 80 from what i used too. Im more chicken and veggies now days. I also have cut out sugar for the most part. I Ill have like a donuts every now and again, but its super rare. One thing i agree is that alot of us do eat too much meat.
Change your words from "cut back on meat" to "cut back on unessessarily killing animals in factories" research how animals are treated for your "meat" we don't need to eat animals, science proves this, selfishness keeps slaughterhouses in business.
Thank u… my husband is a physician and when I talk to him about diet he always says “ I need a double blind study, randomized which has a preponderance of evidence.” I believe he will listen to u
This is the kind of content I’d like to see more of! Letting the science do the hard hitting, not beliefs, anecdotes or information displayed in a biased way!
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LongCoolTall
Check out nutritionfacts.org if you like science supported information
That was not science. NEVER has it been proven that meat diets cause health problems... The only study that they base this on is one where the herbivore, rabbits, were force fed transfatty acids... and they got sick.. This movie is propaganda from big agriculture and processed foods.
Letta Mego
I appreciate your enthusiasm but unfortunately you obviously haven’t looked at anything on nutritionfacts.org
If you did, you wouldn’t have made the comment you just did.
@@andrewj3180 Generally, there is a LOT of misinformation out there. I don't need to be "educated" by big agriculture or the processed food industry. I've had enough biology and science to know fact from fiction. I appreciate that you didn't call me names or ridicule me... but you're implying that I don't know science or nutrition. You are wrong about that.
Letta Mego
Great we can continue a civil conversation then, kudos to you. I also am very experienced in nutrition. So if I were to ask you if you knew everything there is to know about nutrition would you say “yes” or “no”? Of course you’d say no. Only the fool would say yes. Even the greatest minds on any subject still have more to learn. And there will always be so much to learn. That’s how science works.
A wise man once said “Truth has nothing to fear from examination”
So have you looked at nutritionfacts.org?
So, my boyfriend saw the film and said he was going all vegetarian because of what he learned. So today I started watching it and after 20 minutes I was thinking: "This can't be real, they have no actual sources/facts at all (almost)"? So I started doing some research and found an article and your video. And thank you! For bringing this subject up and actually be critical against it. I feel like everyone have just swallowed what the film has told us and just believed in everything.
Michelle Sjöström maybe you can read a very comprehensive book about the diet impact on your health! It’s The China Study, then you can make your own conclusions..
Good on you for questioning. There is so much we don’t understand about our own diet. Blood types, body types, goals etc. No single diet is interchangeable between all of us, as we all have different needs and wants.
@@valerylefont3644 Yeah, I should probably do that! Thanks for the recommendation.
I find it quite hard finding believable sources that doesn't tell you what to do- but instead inform you about what you should do to get a diet as good for you as possible. Just like @Shawn M said there is no diet that suits all of us. So why do all these documentaries tell us to do the exact same as every other, like we were all the same person?
@@shawnm2113 Exactly! Which is why I find it extremely strange for them to throw tons of "do this and do that" on us like we all had the same needs and wants..
Michelle Sjöström I look at guys who have extreme diets. Body builders, power lifters, pro fighters, strong men. Cases like these are the same types of cases like the experiments they do on rats. They give them extreme amounts of the chemical and then they get to see long term effects rather quickly.
Hafthor Bjornson, my favorite strong man, only eats red meat, white rice, white potatoes, fruit and spinach. That’s literally about it. Dude gets blood work done regularly for his craft and he’s healthy as an ox. No one can tell me that red meat is inherently bad because so many professional athletes include it in their diets.
It is and has always been about moderation. Everyone is always looking for an easy way out. Eat mainly for health, eat seldom cheat meals and rest. That’s the only way.
Lowering total cholesterol doesn’t imply a commensurate reduction in cardiovascular risk. It’s not even LDL-C, which is inaccurate in and of itself, let alone LDL-P or Lp(a). It’s just not a good biomarker.
(And conventional dietary guidelines that put olive and canola oil on the same plane are total crap!)
And the government that allowed corn oil to be added to olive oil without listing it as an ingredient is evil..
Congrats on One Million views! Great content. Subbed.
I went through many kinds of diets years ago when I used to feel really lethargic, and at the end I ended up with plant based diet, withough having heard the word ''vegan' actually, and I got two benefits: I felt emotionally much calmer because I wasn't killing animals indirectly and my performance at college went better as well, so maybe it is because of my particular case, or maybe because I did it reading books, watching docs science-based, and did it really slowly so I really do not tknow exactly why but I feel fantastic.
Long time Vegan athlete here. This was a solid review. You’ve got yourself a new subscriber.
David Chaplin If diet makes you a cult member than you are a member of a cult too.
David Chaplin you’re calling today’s food normal? Thanks I needed a laugh. You’re the one that sounds like a religious zealot.
Lara, where do you get your protein from? Just a curious enthusiast
@@aasthamig7840 is confused.
She gets it from plants. Duh.
@David Chaplin Whats wrong with you? Get back to reality you weirdo.
Very good unbiased review. Regarding the unhealthy vegan alternatives however I have to differ, we need to compare apples with apples. Are oils or certain packaged foods unhealthy? YES, but that is no one to one comparison. Someone eating junk food switching to plant-based junk food will still see impressive health improvements. Same for someone eating fresh animal products switching to fresh fruits/veggies. You can't really make an example of someone eating fresh animal products switching to vegan junk food diet, I won't say it's impossible but I can't see why anyone would do it... Anyone switching even if eating comparable foods will still end up healthier, with less impact on the environment and of course not killing animals.
so, you are assuming everyone of them ate junk food, every fire fighter ate junk food is it correct assuming that?
@@baraobuu no I didn't and I made it very clear, did you read my comment or just the first half?
@@SachaBernasconi Diet doesn't matter as much as people think; it's mainly about the soul.
Super valuable perspective on the film. I appreciate how it's well anchored into the science.
Ive been Vegan for over 2 years now. I reversed my diabetes in about 3-4 months. I do feel better and have more energy. All I got to say is try it for 30/60 days and decide for yourself. How can one person tell another person not to try something, when they haven't tried it themselves? Decide for yourself.
The question isnt rather if you cut meat from your diet but wheter you just ate better. Judging from the fact that you all ready had diabetes at a relatively young age tells me that you didnt eat very well to begin with.
If you eat only at McDonalds/fast food for a year, you're going to feel like shit, have sugar/salt cravings all the time, your energy is going to rollercoaster, you'll probably gain a pound a month and your blood measurments will probably be all over the charts.
If you go vegan after that, of course you're going to feel better after a while, but so would you if you just ate better and more varied food. You probably cut out alot of sugar/salt from your diet by going vegan as well. Candy, chips, soda etc not to mentioned all the sugar and salt that saturates processed food these days. (Especially american food, good god you put sugar in everything)
If vegan works for you, good, I hope it will continue to do so, I am not here to throw you off the wagon if that worked for you. But anectdotal evidence such as this is hardly basis for a whole society to go vegan.
Just as a warning for people reading this, don't try this when you have diabetes type 1.
I did the same thing but I still have plenty of meat and dairy.I increase my vegetable intake that's what did it for me
I agree. Why would anyone keep something like their own experience reversing diabetes or lowering cholesterol to themselves? Don't go off meds right away until you see results moving in the right direction, of course. But it has worked for me, too.
@David Chaplin Good for you. It's also the processed foods that make us sick. Are you still eating that? Of course I would love to follow the Keto diet as I absolutely love meat, but I have chosen plant-based over this due to the number of Athletes that adopt this diet. They cant all be fools. No Keto atheletes as far as I can tell about from Lebron James who did it for a few months to lose weight.
I watched it and will be going more plant based and eventually vegan. The only challenge will be ensuring I have adequate protein intake to help with recovery (I do crossfit so need to eat well for replenishment). The documentary was good but I agree it did show too much junk food. This is probably a tool to encourage non healthy people to adopt a diet which is more carbon footprint friendly. There is also some aspect regarding the psychology of food, in that if the food looks like meat but isn't, it is still appetising.
I really like your video, subscribed!
Nice to hear someone say, what cavemen ate thousands of years ago means relatively nothing.
This is a brother I love.
Your honesty is key man.
This video is Really amazing and really powerful.
"I have so much energy when eating just plants." I have always seen this as your body saying "that wasn't enough" and then giving you all the energy it can so you can go catch some meat. You shouldn't feel "energised" after the last meal of the day. You should feel sated, relaxed, you've eaten, now let's do some repairs with what's been given.
Fully agree with this one. Once you experienced the difference with certain foods you actually know what your body is telling you. And you certainly should not be all hyped up after eating something. That is your body actually telling you that you ate something bad.
This was a fair assessment of the movie. Well done.
I don’t think the argument anymore is “can you get strong off a plant based diet.” The question is now, is it really the superior way to eat. Most people in America don’t eat a “balanced diet” with enough fruits and whole plant vegetables to begin with. If someone does AND still eats some animal product, is it really that bad ??
Yes, it is almost undoubtedly the superior way to eat in regards to health.
Great video there is so much confusion on this topic your video is so helpful thank you very much!
This video seemed to be open minded and fair. I appreciate the fact that you recognized the drawbacks of animal flesh. Subscribed.
Some Guy seeing some call it animal flesh makes me cringe , you’re already biased
farorin yea but you’re coming at it like it’s human flesh, you know what I mean, the whole vegan , you’re eating rotten carcasses Vocabulary lol just say meat or animal products, you should seek truth not just confirmation bias
regerbryan Like he said, he’s calling it what it is. Much more deceptive calling a pig “pork” or a cow “beef” in order to further yourself and others from the fact you’re eating a dead animal carcass.
Andrew McCool that’s not the issue though, I can happily say I love eating animal carcasses
@@regerbryan The fact that you and I grew up learning that the flesh of certain animals should be called "meat" and that it is a needed part of our diet in order to thrive is part of our indoctrination into the belief system called "Carnism." Here is what a psychologist has to say about Carnism. It has been viewed almost a million times. ua-cam.com/video/ao2GL3NAWQU/v-deo.html&pp=ygUZc2VjcmV0IHJlYXNvbiB3ZSBlYXQgbWVhdA%3D%3D
As a 4th year nutrition student myself, I have to say that I have so much respect for you from watching this video.
As I watched I found myself saying "yup, yup, for sure". I agreed with literally every word you said in this video.
I felt like i was listening to myself talk. You really know your stuff my friend and i really appreciate for the first time in forever seeing somone who isnt agenda driven and actually makes sense on nutrition.
The fact that you have under 2k subscribers and a channel like Sv3rige has nearly 78k is depressing and baffling.
@Los Fromlashawn bakers a delusional pseudoscience promoting moron with testosterone of a 90yr old grandma that the whole medical community laughs at.
@@23100Battlefield agree with everything you said
You did an excellent job on this review. The points you made were on point. I agree the vegan junk food is not better. Not sure why this was not corrected and said you can start with these foods as transition foods but you should focus on whole foods. It might be because also Cameron is pro-environment and fewer animal products mean less carbon, and methane in the air.
Anecdotes from athletes I think were just to let people know that they too can kick butt in sports and maybe even feel better because of their diet.
I can say when I was eating Chipotle and Cliff bars a lot it lead to me getting higher triglycerides and higher AIC. So eating non-whole foods can cause unhealthy blood. I moved to mostly whole foods now and I def got healthier. This is important for anyone with a family history of heart disease, even on a plant-based diet.
One correction Arnold is not on a plant-based diet he just eats less meat and eats more plants.
right on! we're on the same page. and thanks for the Arnie correction, yeah that makes sense :)
@@NutritionMadeSimple
Also Cameron is heavily invested in his pea protein business, Arnie will sure as shit have shares in that one, since they are besties.
I feel this is just propaganda mainly, i would love to see a follow up in 10 years on the younger athletes, I feel using athletes to push a plant based diet on the average person is pretty lame tbh.
Myself, I eat local, I eat seasonal, both animal and plant, it supports my own community so my foot print is way less than flying in foods from all over the world which most vegans seem to support.
This comment is for OP and you as well as I guess Javier will see this as well.
Just my 2 cents.
I believe ‘plant based’ can also refer to those eating mostly plants with very minimal amounts of animal products.
@@takeoffyourblinkers Most vegans support flying food in the same way most meat eaters do too. Stop your generalisation.
Thank You! So level headed. You make it all feel so clear and obvious.
Here are a few of my thoughts on the game changers. It's way of pushing of a vegan diet was flawed. Firstly demonizing meat and implying that any plant food even if highly processed is healthier than lean meat eaten in moderation is problematic. For starters a perfectly managed vegan diet is still not as healthy as a Mediterranean diet or an Okinawan diet which both contain meat, albeit in small quantities. The documentary's claim that our ancestors got their B12 from stagnant ponds and botanical fruits covered in dirt (shit) is extremely dubious. Water from ponds festering with microbes might have contained B12 but they would also contain harmful microbes that would have made water from sources of moving water that is oxygenated and healthier and better tasting a lot more appealing. And same goes for botanical fruits covered in shit. Coprophagia might still be a part of life for the chimpanzee with whom humans share a common ancestor going back over 3 million years but in that time humans changed radically. For starters humans developed smaller less robust , less energy intensive digestive systems thanks to the shift to more nutrient dense foods including cooked meat. Getting B12 from meat eliminated the need for coprophagia and any other highly risky (as far as harmful microbes go) way of obtaining B12.
And as far as the sustainability argument goes industrial livestock agriculture is far from ideal. It has some we'll known problems but that doesn't make it ok to mislead by distorting information. For example the availability of B12 supplements doesn't mean they are fed to livestock indiscriminately. They are only fed/injected to animals that are B12 deficient on a case by case basis resulting from a veterinary diagnosis. And as far as the argument about crops being grown to feed cattle that's only partially true. In most parts of the world cattle are primarily allowed to graze on grass on the ranch because it's free and it occurs naturally and it's what cows would eat naturally. Even in the US which is the largest user of grain feeding for livestock grain feeding is left for finishing only to get the desired fat marbling with grazing being their primary feed before that. And it's also worth noting that livestock is raised on land that's not suitable for crops. So if livestock agriculture was magically stopped overnight it would not free up land to grow crops and only a small amount of grain would be freed up for other uses. And that's not even touching on regenerative agriculture, the fruit of Alan Savory's studies which mimics the natural herd migration of grazing mammals and is a carbon sink opening up tremendous financial opportunity for farmers who embrace this method when a price has been put on carbon pollution.
Thank you for sharing this.
Liked this post - I gave them a pass on the stories and the food but your comments are not incorrect. The movie was meant to enable a change in some people. Once they are open to change then we can sneak up on them with the Kale.
haha sneak up with the kale I like that vision! :)
How dare you. Not only will they save money but they'll be a lot healthier for it. How could you!
This is my perspective, life long meat and 3 veg type of guy with lots of whey protein in between. I really like how some of the information in the documentary was presented and got me thinking about what I'm eating and how I can bring more balance into my diet.
@@rev0luci0n Hope it goes well for you! It was Forks Over Knives that did it for me almost 8 years ago. Steak, eggs and cheese - poof! I used to warn people not to watch it unless they coud take the risk of then wanting to change!
Amazing changes for me - who knew I loved bok choy and apples and blueberries and brown rice and beans, beans, beans and what the heck is this quinoa stuff??!! :) OK now i have to go watch the MackaB Wha Me Eat video!
And yes, even processed vegan food should not be eaten; great video! I am a vegan who thinks the game changers reaches a good balance.
Daves ArtRoom is a Tofu organic processed food?
Found this in recommended videos and I must say I was blown away with how unbiased this review was. Based on the title I thought it was gonna be a hit piece but it was excellent.
appreciate it, brother!
The Plant based diet does not recommend removing animal products entirely. They mean that approximately 90-95% healthy whole plant products and 5-10% Healthy whole animal products to be included. "The Plant based diet" is not the same as a vegan or vegetarian diet. They are misleading about that in the movie. They recommend a plant based diet.
@David Chaplin I agree our ancestors were definitely omnivores and ate what ever was available. I said healthy whole plant food, asparagus, spinach, almonds, and other things like that. Grain and soy does have little nutritional value.
Thanks for your input. I went plant based March 2019 after getting flu. I also hydrate more. I'm 43 and in great shape. Game Changers just confirmed a lot of my reasons for the change but Dr. Sebi truly inspired me to change. Good luck to anyone looking to change. Also waking up with morning wood nearly every morning lets me know it's really real. 🤣
i am an omnivore. daily morning wood. NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR ANECDOTES.
oh and please define great shape! in numbers please. weight, height, body fat, gym stats, heart rate stats etc. saying im in great shape MEANS NOTHING.
@@davidkay6590 I don't know my exact numbers but I'm 6'0 about 175 and I also workout 3 to 4 days a week. I also play in a basketball league year around. I may have some old videos somewhere on here being active and I'm in even better shape now. You can do it too. Good luck and good health first. ✌🏾
@@biggdawggstatus7626 fair enough but know this: you have a b12 and iron backup in your body for about a year. in two years you ll suffer on multiple levels from deficiencies. be so smart to get educated AS FUCK on this subject and minutely measure and pick the foods you really need to keep your ferritin levels high. as a man this is easier (no period) but you shouldnt get cut and loose blood etc. i met a man (literally yesterday) who is a RAW VEGAN, in the 3rd year and he is losing his hair, sick all the time, pale skin. gets angry when you ask what he eats. thats what im talking about. dont be that guy. we need healthy strong humans, not self destructive soy boys/girls. good luck and im happy if you feel great and are active. but its been only 6-7 months.. watch out watch out
@@biggdawggstatus7626 oh and nearly forgot. im 40, i have a showing sixpack, im stronger than with 20, i lift more i run faster longer etc. i eat meat once a week and dairy daily, fruits and veggie, nuts etc, the whole natural enchelada. always cook, never eat a prepared/processed/microwaved meal. no sugar, no alcohol, no cigs. 8hrs sleep.
ive done vegan for a couple a months to see what is like... sure you lose weight (aka water), feel healthier, cause you eat less/more healthy. but it comes at a price you ll pay once your b12 and iron has run out. EVERY doctor will subscribe to this.
Fast food meat really isn’t the best source of protein.
Eating animals sickened by corn is not a good idea. Their tissue is mostly made of Carbon 13. Most plants are made up of Carbon 12, except for corn, which is made of Carbon 13. Probably when one switches to a grain based diet, they too will be eating a lot more corn and soy and roundup.. yum.
@@annberry8149 if u look into Indian vegetarian dishes, they hardly ever use soya so if u do switch then u can easily get without even soya and corn products.
@@MrAceekidd Bill Clinton's administration mandated that all grains be "fortified" with made-in-China synthetic folic acid. Indian dishes have wheat-based dishes.. Wheat, in the United States, isn't fit for consumption by man or animal.. Indian dishes also contain millet, sorghum, barley, amaranth, and spelt. These are probably "enriched" with made-in-china synthetic folic acid too ...Since 1998, the government has required breads, cereals, pasta, flour, rice, cornmeal and other grain products, be fortified with folic acid. In a large percentage of people, are not able to metabolize that synthetic. It builds up and probably contributes to our cancer epidemic. I don't feel good on a vegetarian diet.. unless I'm needing a lot of sugar and starch... for quick energy... or unless I want to gain weight.
@@annberry8149 I'm from the UK, and we have a balanced diet here not only meat base. What's your diet like, because of your comment it seems it's mostly meat based.
Meat of pastured, humanly-raised beef is included in most meals. I try to get cuts that have the most fat. Low fat diets, I think, are bad for humans. It sounds like I eat mostly meat, but I don't I eat a lot of non-starchy vegetables, but I think just listening to people praise vegetarian diets makes my blood sugar spike. If the water is fluoridated where the vegetable are grown, you going to get fluoride. Fluoride is the most reactive element in the periodic table. It tears molecules apart. It can't be filtered out of water.. without a special filters...because it's smaller than a water molecule. Vegetables take up pollutant like fluoride and arsenic..
hey Gil! thanks for the informed and informing videos! r u Portuguese or Brazilian?