Oroville 6 April Update The 'New' Spillway Design Revealed!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Big media reveal of the 'new' spillway design which looks much like the original design brought up to modern ASTM standards.
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As expected, great reporting Juan!! Kudos
Good work Juan. I've been watching your updates on the Oroville Dam for several weeks now and you've definitely provided extremely thorough, unbiased, information about it. I'd really like to see you do stories on other subjects in the future. I will also be donating to your PayPal shortly. Thank you!
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Hi Juan,
Ian from Perth Western Australia, really enjoying you coverage of Oroville and have been watching the events from the start.
You're doing a great job. Also enjoying coverage of the place you visiting as a pilot! Would like to see more if you're able? I suppose time is limited on turn arounds.
Regards Ian.
Well done Juan. Whodu thought a citizen journalist and active, working pilot would be the go to source for news. Again, well done and thank you.
Juan, One of the MSM outlets needs to hire you! You are a great reporter, easy to understand the info you give us and enjoy watching you. Thank you for keeping us well updated on the situation.
Juan, you are doing a fantastic job as a citizen reporter. I'm easily 3,000+ miles away on the East coast and not the least bit impacted by this situation, but you have me continually awaiting new information via your dispatches. I feel more informed about the situation at Oroville than I do my own community. Keep up the good, thorough work. 👍🏻
Thank's Juan, My Grandfather worked on the powerhouse, Dad worked on the spillway. This is very important to me.
Thanks Juan! You are a light in the darkness. At high rates, the water moving over the top of the downslope will be like air over a plane wing. I hope they consider the cavitation.
Way to gradual a change in slope for the speed its going. It's only about 50 mph. You wouldn't "catch air" at that speed
Next time you're in a really fast speed boat put your hand down in the water. The chaotic layer at the water-concrete interface is going to be pounding the concrete with destructive forces.
Cavitation happens when there is little to no air bubbles. This spillway does not get cavitation as the turbulence adds plenty of air bubbles. Cavitation is when air-less water that is rushing through a tunnel or tube lifts and forms a vacuum then slams back down onto the surface with high impact. You can see it at work at home. Fill a glass bottle to 90% capacity, hold tightly and smack the top of the bottle hard with your hand. The result is a vacuum at the bottom of the bottle as the water lifts. The glass will break there.
Agree jim, high velocity water can be very destructive. I'd ask why they aren't considering slowing it down with baffle blocks on the steep section. This would be less likely to cause failures in the channel and any failures that did occur would be less catastrophic as the water would have less kinetic energy. KE is proportional to v squared.
it's alright saying 'we'll maintain it properly this time' - the maintenance will eventually be cut again as the people who remember dealing with this failure retire and the effects on the civilian population pass into distant folk memory. better to design it to be more intrinsically safe from the get go imo.
Exactly. They ever have to use that emergency spillway people will understand what your talking about Jim
A very ordinary but sensible design, and approach to contingencies. I have been very impressed with the Cali Department of Water Resources' handling of the whole over-topping challenge in the face of the failure of the spillway. Go DWR!!!.
Thank you for the great reporting, Juan.
Juan's reporting is the best I have found.
He's so good, I feel I should be paying for this.
Even the music is great.
Please keep up the good work, and thanks.
There's a link up top in the description to a paypal account to help Juan with his expenses
Bob Smoth I just sent him $20 yesterday. If you think about it, he could expend his entire income from being an airline pilot and make some great videos with professional equipment and a crew. But, when you make a decent wage, what does your free time become worth? If you are really good at something your audience should help foot the bill. That is if you appreciate the work done.
I don't live anywhere near the area but Juan does an excellent job of making his videos interesting to where I want to return. I keep watching for his updates! Whether Juan is doing this on his own time or being paid, he's doing a tremendous job with his videos! Thank you Juan!
He's an involved member of the community. If you want to help him out with his expenses, there's a link up top in the description
Done!
Thank you for all your good work. Clear, concise, unbiased, factual, and down to earth information is such breath of fresh air! Been following you since this began, and I consistently enjoy your updates on Oroville above all others.
Thanks Juan for 'Hat Tip' on bumper music..Aram Bedrosian, listened online, all his songs have a real 'feel' to em. great tunes.
Seems spillway cavitated where it changed pitch downhill. They never explained that. Hope they finger that out.
Reply/myself: Watched other Utube damn fails/cavitation Hope repairs consider 1st fail, dont need a Repeat !
Thanks so much, for all the reporting you have done. It has been excellent, straightforward, interesting and informative. You are better than the News reporters!
Mr. Browne, I thank you for your dedication to finding and reporting such detailed information. I've got a family I'm good friends with in Yuba city. Receiving your updates even while performing your day job is much appreciated. I know my friends are safe and sound. I hope there is a UA-cam Awards! I'd bet you'd receive "Best Reporter" or at least "Best Indie Reporter"!
Great job Juan. I wish all reporting was as detailed and as thorough as yours. You have done a great service for the locals and the rest of the country. Our eyes have been opened to the dangers of our aging infrastructure. We also see how things can be accomplished when the goverment and the private sector work together. Keep up the good reporting.
Thank you so much for the continued monitoring of this issue, Juan! You have been the most reliable outlet for me.
I live in the UK and I am hooked on your posts. The Oroville dam has nothing to do with us, yet I am fascinated. Thank you for your time.
Juan, your videos re oriville dam are fabulous. I check them out daily. Your son/grandson is a great co pilot.
This update had some meat on that bone! Interesting, several future video topics/questions to consider... 1) Maybe breaking down the construction process a bit. That was a lot to take in. 2) So will they remove all existing concrete in the upper and lower sections and replace completely? 3) Maybe some more detail on RCC, it's use, how it's laid down, etc. 4) Juan's magical 3D model built on his table top...showing a step by step progression of the construction. (Yes, I have all kinds of ideas to spend your time. ;-) 5) Discussion about the lakeside of the dam wall, it's condition, quell any rumors about undercutting. 6) Follow up story on turbines...the old being replaced with new. What do the new models look like, benefits, cost of a turbine these days. It basically boils down to this Juan, we either generate ideas for you or this comes to an end. From what I've seen, folks don't want it to end. I know I can't bear to think about that reality. The price of stardom I guess. You have had your contract renewed for another 26 episodes, congratulations. More work, same pay. ;-)
Very generous of you to work so hard for quality news on this project. Great reporting. Congratulations.
I live north of the Oroville area, it has been a blessing to follow you from the early days on this Juan. You put out far more superior info than the local news, keep it up!
We are hoping you will continue coverage through the construction of the spillway. Great coverage so far.
Thanks for your thoughtful and exploratory reporting.
And for tuning me into Aram Bedosian who strums an interesting creative tune on his guitar.
Juan, you have done a Yeoman's job reporting on the Oroville Dam-age. In addition, you have modeled how effectively and responsibly the public can subvert the corrupt American Press by accurately covering news stories for themselves. Thank you for showing us the way forward.
Excellent translation and shortening of all that was said in the press conference. We appreciate!!!
I would think that they want to "turn" or "curve" the water out of the spillway more down stream and not come into river at s 90 degree angle.
Interesting stuff.
Keep it up!!
Hi Juan, thank you for your coverage of this fascinating event. I'm half a world away, but i've been intrigued and almost obsessed by the Oroville Dam failure. Yours is the best coverage on the internet. Please keep us informed during the repair work. Thanks again. PS. I'd love to know how much this whole event is costing.. helicopters dropping bags of rocks and an army of excavators & dump-trucks don't come cheap.
Thank you Juan for great, consistent, detailed reporting!
This video is interesting to revisit from the perspective of October, 2017. Part of the emphasis being to review those charts, and the glossary of terms used through the intervening months.
Again Juan, we thank you.
Juan, you do a great job. Making what appears to be even a "simple" YT video requires hard work, talent and time! Your videos are certainly NOT simple. You spend the time to research every video, you supplement with DWR footage when you know you can't get the footage necessary to demonstrate the points. The biggest selling point is that your videos are so honest, intelligent and level-headed. Your citizen journalist approach sets standards that professional journalists should find enviable. Keep up the great work!
Good points! Flying an commercial airliner requires honest, intelligent, and level-headed decisions, using lots of information. These are skills that many professional journalists do not have, nor lots of other people as well. This is a good example of how important skills are transferable across disciplines.
Thanks Juan. Just when you voiced concern about what you would do to fill your time, a new project presents itself. I hope you will continue to keep us up to date on the new construction and repair.
Juan, what do you mean, there's not going to be a lot for you to report on. Lol. I've worked in heavy construction for 30 years! There's going to be a lot to watch, I guarantee it! That time frame is almost an impossibility! Thanks for the reports! As far as I'm concerned you are the only one to watch for news on Oroville!!!
Looks like the time frame is working out just fine.
Thanks again Juan for the great no nonsense and concise reporting.
Juan even though I live way over here on the east coast, Mass., I am very glad that you are making such great effort in bringing the information to the rest of us even though most of us are quite unaffected but nonetheless intensely concerned by the happenings at Oroville. Having watched several other channels concerning these events they are nothing more than conspiracy theorists by comparison. Please keep up the good work getting out the correct information for rest of us who, as mentioned, have no dog in this fight. I check in every day hoping for a new release. Thanks again.
Thank you Juan. You are a gentleman and a scholar! Good solid info delivered into a down to earth format.
I have been going back and watching some of your old videos. Why can't the paid media deliver like this more of the time---sincere and up front?
Thank you for getting most of our questions answered. Really appreciate you being there. Another great job.
I did hear Gene, or Jeanie, not sure of spelling, say something about the gates, but she may have said 'gated spillway,' so not sure if that includes gates or just SW.
We couldn't get the city to finish a pothole project within one year, yet here they plan to finish the entire spillway by November!
Thanks for all you are doing, Juan. I especially enjoyed the behind the scenes insight on the media process. You are showing how citizen journalism can far surpass the professionals. Keep up the good work!
California should sponsor a lotto for the final cost of repairs! ....GREAT job Juan, you are the bomb!
They should sponsor a Lotto for Juan !!
Another great update Juan.. you have a knack for making an otherwise mundane subject, extremely interesting! I watch plenty of nonsense on UA-cam, but I find your channel, in particular the the 'Oroville' coverage something I look forward to watching, videos from start to end. Kind regards, Jim :)
Another outstanding offering. If mainstream media was factual and intelligent like this I would watch the news. Lol.
One bit of confusion is that Ms. Cuttle and Mr. Croyle presented slightly different contingency plans with regard to lower MSW.
Paraphrased:
Cuttle: (about 15:25 into conf) Contingency plan is to Buttress the bottom edge of the upper MSW, plunge pool and eroded area.
The areas that are deemed safe for continued use through next winter will be reinforced and more robust permanent features built at a later time.
If this option is pursued then rest of construction would be completed next season (summer 2018).
Croyle: (answering Q at about 41:25) "fill up plunge pool with RCC", ... (minute later) build up lower MSW to handle 100K, with contingency to spill it over the side into the natural erosion channel, then finish build up of lower MSW in next construction season.
Personally, I think the first is more likely than the second, but we'll see.
I think you're right...
Their plans have several contingencies at this point. Both scenarios are in the plans right now, and they will make a final determination when it becomes more clear how much they can get done by Nov 1.
Nice job Juan, thanks for the updates from here in Ohio. I have no ties to your area and never visited but fascinated by the story you have been telling these last few months.
Without power in C.C. NORCAL thanks Juan for keeping the lights on.
I'll be watching your show, still amazed we've gotten over 700 inches of snow in the sierras this winter!
Thanks for your exploratory reporting and breaking away from the the copy cat drones.
And thanks for introducing Aram Bedrosian, and creative guitrist.
man you have taken the task of reporting on this situation to the level the pros refuse to. thank you.
Hands up if you love blanco !!
I do
Watching from the UK !
tim wilkinson ✋ UK also.
tim wilkinson ✋ U.K. also, great in depth coverage.
Also from the UK! This guy is a total star! Love his no-nonsense approach, and very succinct in his analysis. Top Guy! :)
Watching from Berlin Germany. Well done Blanco
tim wilkinson here in Spain. Top guy
Hilarious - "This better be good, I even shaved and put on a clean shirt today!" Juan - You rock.
As always, 'our man at the scene' giving us the information needed to be up to date. Thank you my friend.
One thing I'm surprised at is they don't treat this like any hole in a road (pothole) and just fill the hole and re concrete it and maybe the whole slipway… they could of course forget the lower slipway repair and just re-enforce the 'earth to bedrock' part of the new canyon. If the new canyon is solid enough just make a wall to stop the earth from eroding, at least this will last longer than human will on this earth! LOL
Again, thank you for your updates 👍🏼😊
Good plans......RCC ( Roller Compacted Concrete ) is basically standard concrete with less water so its stiff. Sounds like they're going to fill those holes with RCC rather than stone. That's going to be basically bedrock as the base of the spillway. Shotcrete is also very similar in consistency to RCC
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Couple of thoughts on construction....... Cemexusa has some great youtubes on RCC. .....A portable plant can mix 600 tons per hour. that's 60 truck loads per hour, one per minute........There was 1.7 million yards washed down the hill into the river. Assume half has to be replaced to fix the spillway. the rest is canyon. That's 850,000 tons or 1417 hours or 60 days. .....It's going to take some work to get the people and equipment in place but the timeline is doable
Once the "pour" starts does it have to be continuous to avoid cold joints? If so, 2 patch plants in the event a plant goes down? Feeding a plant(s) to maintain that quantity is going to be a logistic challenge also.
cemexusa has some good youtubers on RCC. You can get an idea how long between pours, how much they can put down an hour, the equipment required. I just used the info to do a rough calculation......The plan as presented is the 60% engineering plan. The drawings still have to be prepared. We don't know how deep the holes are ( plunge pool etc ). I'm going to guess that they will wash and crush some of what they dug out to build a foundation that they can work on. EG. if the pool is 50 feet deep they my fill in the bottom 20 feet with crushed fill ( compacted of course ) to build a level surface that they can then install the RCC on 30 feet thick. That's not all RCC but it would still be good by the time California slide all the way up the coast and becomes part of Canuckistan. ......We've been shown a plan that still needs to be fleshed out. What I've seen gives me confidence that they can meet the time line and do an excellent job. Time for us armchairs to get out of the way.
Thanks Bob, you're getting a workout with all these comments.
Dear Juan:
saw most of your fantastic videos and comments on this damm. From the beginning, it was quite clear the low flow of the spillway compared to the hidrographic basin area, even with the emergency spillway, but i suppose that is out of the equation now, unfortunately. My questions as a civil enginner, are mainly two: first, the spillway location absolutely perpendicular to the normal bed of the river; this unables a proper spill into the river , not disturbing its flow, but also increases the debry deposit uphill the river, acumulating material enabling the river's proper flow and use in full of the power station. Second, the lenght of the spillway; i never saw such a big spillway with 1.5 km long, expecting to have a laminar flow, without turbulence. As you know, it's turbulence that causes erosion, and no concrete or diamond made spillway will stop turbulence. Spillways are made to direct water as short as we can, releasing it from contact with our infrastructure; and when there is turbulence, we throw water in the air, to loose power. Feel free to comment if you wish. Best regards from Portugal.
unfortunately it is what it is, this is the design they're stuck with. Gotta work with the 90 degree entry into the Diversion Pool, thus the big blocks at the bottom.
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Thank you, Mr. Browne. Your information seems to be clear and concise. It's good to have yourself on station to provide the real scoop. Thanks again.
Well it looks like trusted and previously used methods are the first choice on this job. I have to credit them for working at both ends towards the middle plan. More hands will make things go quicker. I wonder if the water authority is thinking about building a viewing platform or designated overlook for people to watch the project getting built. Washington State Dept. of Transportation built a viewing platform near my old home in Aberdeen, where their contractors were assembling the new Lake Washington Floating Bridge. The platform gave curious onlookers the opportunity to view the entire process. It was also worth its weight in gold for the PR value!!! Just a suggestion....🤔
A live stream so the world can watch.
Juan Browne: You are the best at explaining key points of "the plan". Let's pray something works. ✈️
You got us hooked Juan so I hope you continue to provide updates on the progress at least through 2017.
Thanks Juan. I must say this spillway has the makings of a real money pit a federal money pit.
great job as usual, Juan! Thank you for all your hard work and great reporting!
Great job Juan Brown, good detailed info. I'll be at one of those community meetings to find out for myself what our future beneath the Oroville Dam and the spillways will be like in the future . I am going to go back and research any info on the current gates and there situation. Thks Again, coming to you from Evacuation Area 1A. Oroville, CA.
Juan, thank you for the great coverage. I am looking forward to more of your coverage of the spillway and the construction taking place
That's one heck of an update Juan! Thank-you. Same weather in Scotland.
i am so glad you have closed captioning so i can get what you are talking about i could not understand the press conference since they did not have closed captioning i am so glad you was there so you could explain in a more simple manner
Glad to see the old attitude of "can do - get er done" coming through, despite all the government red tape in the way.
Great report Juan, keep up your truthful reporting. Kudos.
Once again, Juan is the Best Source! I think my late second Cousin who was on the Engineering staff at the Dam would have appreciated and Liked you, Juan! thanks!
Thank you Juan for the top class reporting. I especially respect the approach you take for clarity. I have quite a few questions. However I'll finish up with this thought. After all of this documentation I sincerely hope you copyright these documents and post reconstruction assemble the video and questions into an engineering class 'review' for educational purposes.
Good Idea!
Thanks for the update.
I have always thought using fly ash from coal fire power plants to produce autoclaved aerated concrete (AAC) to be a good use of an industrial byproduct. However, after reading about roller-compacted concrete (RCC), which also uses fly ash, I have concerns about heavy metals in the concrete leaching out. It will be interesting to see how heavy metal levels are affected.
Honey is, I think, a good choice. It was he who is seen as the truth-telling hero to most of the county. citizens trust him. I hope he continues to earn the respect and trust of the community he serves moving forward.
As a pilot you see a lot of RCC everyday (runways). This video was a lot better than the news conference.
And your hair was looking good too! Tremendous update, fascinating process (note 3 foot increase in water today....weather could eat in to their schedule), amazed at the progress thus far but going to be interesting when slipway next used!
Wait for the movie. George Clooney will play the lead
... and Alec Baldwin will play Gov. Jerry Brown
I'd have thought Antonio Banderas was a good shout.
What about Harrison Ford!!...LOL
Haha, your channel, your call! You can have who you want, but if Harrison is busy it might have to be Antonio (he's reading through the scripts just now!) :)
It's going to be interesting to see how much involvement those of us here in Indiana will play with regards to the rebuild plans. We have ramped up truckloads of steel blooms to 30-trucks per day for last several weeks so the steel mill west of Indianapolis is well stocked for the manufacture of steel rebar on a massive scale. I just cross my fingers and hope we get to play a part in the re-build. As for the last video it showed just how thin the concrete was in the upper section which might've led to the destruction of the spillway which is now the plunge pool. Hopefully they will be smart this go round and make the concrete as thick as an airport runway which is four feet. At this point money should be no object or limitation although in the end someone has to pay for it but as stated, this work to come needs to be future proof and be able to withstand the goal cfm of 270k. This is their chance to get it right.
Love how you implemented the original voice and who said what without you saying it!! Smart thinking
Watching from Sweden and like Your follow up on this project. There is a lot to learn even for a civil engineer,having taken classes in spillway design in Berkeley 1976 for professor Fisher.
Thanks Juan for your reporting and the questions about the river valve. Very informative!
Great coverage during this whole event. thanks.... your safety vest is inside out when u put your coat on lol just having some fun with you.... Again, you are the only one im watching in this dam situation.....
Hi Juan. Thank you for taking your time to do all this research for the rest of the interested world. Judy in Victoria BC Canada.
The two examples of RCC dams are one in San Diego at the olivenhaun storage next to Lake Hodges. The other one is in New Mexico near Reading.
Thanks for showing the plans at 2:10.
Juan, several people have said on other channels, maybe this one too, that the gates to the spillway are decayed, I don't think so, they seem to function fine but was there any mention of replacing those? Perhaps they would replace them anyway since they seem to be planning a much higher potential outflow? As always you're are doing a great job and if I had some extra money at this point I would kick you some. You're providing an excellent service to us all for free and you should get at least enough to defer your costs. I think it's also interesting to note that the new design seems to be intended to handle enough flow so that the emergency spillway is never needed. Even so, they are beefing up the emergency spillway nicely. As an Engineer, I'm pretty impressed with this effort, what do you think? And lastly, is there any indication that the main dam broken interior concrete barrier repair is leaking at all? A few years ago there was a couple of reports about that internal barrier moving and cracking causing some leakage but repairs were made by pumping concrete underground that supposedly worked, but others on UA-cam "claim" that it is still leaking? Maybe the information officer could clear this up? Thanks a million.
Thanks a lot for all your reports. Between the information videos, your fly overs and on site reporting, it's obvious this is a subject you feel passionate about. Living in Applegate, I also enjoyed watching you and the chainsaw gang clearing the bike trails. Doing some of that up here for Meadow Vista Trails. Take care and Happy Landings.
Thanks Juan. I'm a bit East of you on the New Hampshire - Maine border and very interested in your reports. Which I believe to be better than any of the media reporting.
Thank you so mucgh for the great coverage of the ongoing events at Oroville
--Rick
Yes, a hair cut too! Thanks you Juan.
Gotta love that the cause will not be given out to the public and I'm betting any of that info that does come out it will very limited blaming no one or perhaps the old methods used at the time of construction. I'm sure it will not mention any of the inspection prior to the event causing the spillway fail. It would be interesting to find out what the cost would have been to fix all the issue prior to the failure and what it's going to cost to fix it now.
how the heck are they going to pour all that concrete for the new spillway and have it cure over the summer season. This is going to be really interesting to watch.
Concrete comes up to spec cure in about a month. Recent core samples from the Hoover dam indicate the concrete is still continuing to harden
I believe that you will find that modern technology has developed concrete which stabilizes much faster than it used to. Combined with modern application processes and you can build concrete very fast. i.e. the Burj Khalifa was built with a concrete core which had a new floor poured over the previous floor within a day or two of the last pour. The base pours were holding up the entire building within just a short time of being placed. Plus that concrete continues to build in strength for years, even decades or centuries to come.
got it... thanks to you both :)
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As far as I know, the Roller Compacted Concrete dries much quicker and is stronger.
I've been away from my engineering side for too many years. THAT is really useful info. Thanks :)
Thank you, of course, true value in information deserves compensation. All subs and other listeners, lets show Juan our gratitude through PayPal.
Rebuilding the upper chute by November 1 sounds really ambitious. Then again this is one of the largest reservoirs in California and helps irrigate a big chunk of the country's agriculture...
Roller compacted concrete was how the Taum Sauk Mountain Reservoir was rebuilt after it failed catastrophically several years ago.
Thank you Juan, best reporting!
I had to google roller compacted concrete and a cool picture came up.
Once again, good job. A little disappointed that it sounds like the report on what caused the accident will be sanitized. Guess it will take a freedom of information request to see the actual report, but then much may be redacted if it indicates liability on the government's behalf.
back when this all started the aerial image showed a trench trace coming from the west towards the spillway, going underneath to the service road cul-de-sac. They knew something was up in that area yet only patched the cracks. It should have a regular schedule of using GPR the entire length of the spillway to find any cavities forming under the spill way. It's obvious in the location of the conduit passing under the spillway formed a sizable cavity that eventually lead to the failure. GPR would have saved a lot of headaches and costs.
there are 4 sections to this. upper spillway, lower spillway, the new canyon, and emergency spillway. if i were the DWR, i'd have all 4 companies do one of each. company 1 does upper spillway, company 2 does emergency spillway, company 3 does the canyon, and company 4 does the lower spillway. 4 projects going on at the same time.
They'll all get some of he "action". One will get the lead, the other's will get work as subs.
Juan, thanks again for an excellent report. You answered my questions regarding the turbines in the power plant. Your safety as a pilot depends on cold hard facts not speculations or fear mongering and it shows in your reporting. This fiasco with the dam must be similar to an aircraft crash investigation. Looking forward to the next report.
Juan, they apparently have mentioned several times that the Emergency Spillway is not to be used again. It would not have been used now if the inspection and maintenance of the Flood Control Spillway had not allowed it to fail. Have they said ANYTHING about how they are going to change that so the Flood Control Spillway does not fail again???? Great report as always, thanks.
You'll be able to land a being 777 on the new one.
Thank you so much Juan. Perhaps the DWR could invest in a microphone for the audience so listeners could actually hear the questions asked. With all due respect, they don't appear to be treating everyone's concerns with in depth responses. Could use someone with excellent PR skills to communicate the vital information and reassure not just the people who live downstream, but all of us for whom a dam failure would have a profound effect. Without you, and having to rely on DWR's sporadic and less than in depth analysis, we would know next to nothing. You are very diplomatic in your assessment of their communications, but there may be a time when you have to call a spade a spade. Adding secrecy to the mix when peoples lives, jobs and property are a stake does not serve any of us well. Greetings from North Central Washington,
Thanks again for doing such a great job on reporting about this historic event!
Interesting part about the release of the findings. The only reason that it would be released by the sheriff, a law enforcement agency, is they know or suspect part of the cause could be considered criminal. The sheriff is responsible for issuing citations and presenting the "evidence" to DA, who then determine what, if any, charges will be prosecuted. This does NOT mean the ones responsible for the criminal activity had intentionally endangered people or property. Negligence could be possible though. (This comes from someone, me, involved in public safety.)
This is another great update from you Jaun. Time will tell if they can pull this off.
Another great report - honest about what you do know, and honest about the remaining questions. What more could anyone ask?
....3:22....'cut off wall'....kind of reminds me of levee work here in Sacto a few years ago....they used bentonite and excavators with 65 foot arms and 16" wide buckets to dig about 50 feet down , along the center of miles of levees.....then filled it wait bentonite
They had to do it twice...the first time was about 30 feet deep, and water leaked under that, developing 'boils'.....
Great reporting on the Oroville Dam! I think you have become a dam expert, lol And yes I will hit the PayPal link!
oh yeah, I'm addicted to this.
60,000 of us
Funny how the state and feds want to really fast track this project and avoid the red tape. I just wished the government as a whole could operate like this and really get things done without being bogged down like molasses. Good reporting Juan. Keep up the good work.