What About Women in Church Leadership - Pastor Daniel Batarseh

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  • @keikiokeakua20
    @keikiokeakua20 2 місяці тому +1

    What a beautiful and God honoring message! 🙌🏼

  • @mindgum_
    @mindgum_ 3 роки тому +17

    You preach the word faithfully, engagingly and boldly. This is truly hard to find. Thank you brother.

    • @sunshine12041
      @sunshine12041 3 роки тому +2

      @ robbiejeffery, COMPLETELY agree.

  • @astertesfay1764
    @astertesfay1764 3 роки тому +14

    Honoring God is more important than my happiness. I gave my fulltime to my two boys regardless of what i was hearing from my friends, I choose honoring God in a role as a wife and mother. Thank God for his grace. God bless you always Pastor D. Your mom must be proud,

    • @astertesfay1764
      @astertesfay1764 3 роки тому +3

      And I never regret it.

    • @sunshine12041
      @sunshine12041 3 роки тому +2

      Amen! I agree! “Train up a child in the way they should go so when they get old they will not depart from it.” Proverbs 22:6.

    • @NinaStone63
      @NinaStone63 2 роки тому +1

      I have grandchildren now and I too stayed home with my two sons. It was the best part of my life and I don’t regret it at all. And now I have two beautiful granddaughters who are being raised the same way. Makes my heart glad

  • @pattyanderson7373
    @pattyanderson7373 5 місяців тому +2

    Thanking God for your mom and for you.

  • @keikiokeakua20
    @keikiokeakua20 2 місяці тому +1

    AMEN and AMEN!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @angelenicole1243
    @angelenicole1243 3 роки тому +4

    Holy Spirit gave me such revelation of his love for us and his covering for us and all the beauty that he made within us our gentleness our kindness our form the way we were made we are just a beautiful workmanship to be admired and loved by our husbands and protected. How powerful our roles are as mother, wives and teachers. What a tragedy that all this and more is overlooked and we want to lead in areas meant for him. There is so much peace in being protected under the headship of a husband and God So much comfort in that. So much love in that. So much mercy and it is his love for us that he gave us that gift after we strayed from his original plan.

  • @mr-cn6uc
    @mr-cn6uc 3 роки тому +5

    The Word is always backed up and explained by The Word. Thank you for being Faithful to The Lord and His revealed Truth in scripture.

  • @paulinesousonis
    @paulinesousonis Рік тому +3

    “When you forsake God’s wisdom you inherit confusion and chaos.” 💙

  • @csmoviles
    @csmoviles Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your ministry 🙏💖🙏💖🙏

  • @reemsuekar8112
    @reemsuekar8112 3 роки тому +2

    Beautiful, thank you.

  • @selairarokobu9017
    @selairarokobu9017 2 роки тому +3

    God is good

  • @michellecheriekjv4115
    @michellecheriekjv4115 2 роки тому +2

    Amen Brother. Women who argue against this...l wonder if they are devoid of the Holy Spirit. I never wanted the role and authority of a man. God knows what's best. Praise God ...📜✝️

  • @paulinesousonis
    @paulinesousonis 2 роки тому +1

    Amen! 💜

  • @garvinbartholomew4168
    @garvinbartholomew4168 3 роки тому +1

    Listening

  • @shiloh236
    @shiloh236 11 місяців тому

    What is the criteria for women to teach men outside of the local church at a seminar/conference internationally? To teach about the nature of God under her husbands authority.

  • @jemthomas7915
    @jemthomas7915 2 роки тому

    Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 2 Peter 1:20 19:54

  • @cgreen2984
    @cgreen2984 5 місяців тому

    I don't think women should lead in the church. I don't think men should lead un the church.
    God is the leader of His church.

  • @gracelifewithjeninemay2410
    @gracelifewithjeninemay2410 3 роки тому +7

    I don't see what Pastor Bartaseh is seeing. I have been born again since I was 9/10 years old. And it has been important to me to study the word for myself, lean on the Holy Spirit for understanding, and also utilize the teachers that God has given me to glean from.
    When I read and meditate on 1 Tim 2:11, 12, "12 Let the wife learn in silence with all subjection. I do not permit a wife to teach or to exercise authority over her husband; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1.These passages of scripture are lessons on the order of marriage, not lessons on a woman's position in the Body of Christ. 2. The setting: During that time, according to Jewish law, women were not taught the things of God nor were they permitted to speak in the assembly according to Jewish law. The Jewish new believers were entering into a new day of newfound liberties that were very different from their law and customs. Paul understood they were transitioning into a new culture. These newfound liberties gave birth to zeal, a hunger, and thirst for God, and an eagerness to learn; which apparently incited a disruption in the service. Therefore, Paul was speaking to a situation and it was NOT his desire NOR God’s desire, to make this scripture a doctrine that would govern a woman’s right to teach or her position in the Body of Christ because we are no longer governed by Jewish law. 3. In matters of Authority and the Order of Marriage; the husband is responsible for teaching the wife, not the wife teaching the husband. This doesn’t mean that the husband can’t learn from the wife, it just means that when it comes down to the order of responsibility in a marriage, the man will be held responsible for what he teaches or doesn’t teach his wife. At no time in a marriage is a wife permitted to be the Dominant Teacher. The man has to be an example that a wife can submit to. Adam was held accountable for his failure to teach Eve, which led to her deception. As Christ is the head of the church, and the husband is the head of the wife, it is his responsibility to look to Christ for understanding that he may lead well and not constantly look to the wife for knowledge and understanding. The man has to be an example that a wife can submit to, thus submitting one to another.
    1 Corinthians 14:34, 35, “Let your women keep silence in the churches (assembly/synagogue): for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but [they are commanded] to be under obedience, as also saith the law. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church." 1. Just like in the letter to Timothy, Paul is addressing a Situation. Paul is keeping order in the church to cut down on disruptions and confusion. When it comes to the wives learning, before Christ, they were not permitted to. The fact that Paul endorsed women learning at all, was a change in their culture. 2. According to Jewish Law, it was not permitted for women to speak in their synagogues/assemblies. Again, this is not to make a doctrine out of to govern a woman’s right to teach or restrict their position in the Body of Christ. 3. Today’s believers, including Jewish believers and especially non-Jewish believers, are not Bound to Jewish Laws even the one where wives/women are not permitted to speak in Jewish assemblies. All believers are governed by Galatians 5:1, Galatians 31:28, James 1:25.
    Today’s believers, especially non-Jewish believers are not bound to Jewish Laws even the one where women are not permitted to speak in Jewish assemblies. All believers are governed by Galatians 5:1, Galatians 31;28, James 1:25.
    Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Start with the 1st Chapter to understand this scripture. 1. Gal 1:6-8, “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.” We can conclude that the things that Paul addressed in his letter to the Galatians were linked to the error that was being preached. There were those that were preaching things that were not in line with what Paul was preaching. There were those who were reverting back to the ways of Judaism. I.e., Circumcision; the blessing was also for the Gentiles; no longer serving the law; Male and female are equal (Gal 3:28). 2. Galatians 4: Hagar and Sarah. I believe that the depiction of Hagar and Sarah is a prophetic illustration to who women were before Christ and who women are after Christ. Before, the woman was in bondage and in Christ she is free as is her children. 3. Galatians 5 further explains the liberty that we (male and female) have in Christ.
    Acts 2:17-18 “And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.” Prophesy: I foretell, prophesy; I set forth matter of Divine Teaching by special faculty.
    1 Cor 12:4, 7, 11. 4 “Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.” 7 “But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man (everyone) to profit withal.” 11 “But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man (everyone) severally as He will.”
    Romans 16:1, 2 “I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea: 2That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.”

    1. Succourer: Greek word: προστάτις noun, feminine - Transliteration: prostatis: Protector, Guardian, Patroness
    2. Historical definition of Protector: a person in charge of a kingdom during the minority, absence, or incapacity of the sovereign; the office or position, or the term of office, of a protector.
    3. Fem. of a derivation of proistémi: Verb - To put before, to set over, to rule
    *Prostatis is who she is and Proistemi is what she does.
    4. The fact that Paul asked them to receive Phebe was an indication that there would be a reason where they might not receive her and that reason was that she was a woman, this is key. For Phebe was found to have the same qualities of character prescribed in 1 Timothy 3:5. Paul then asks that they assist her with the business of the church, not her assist them.
    1 Tim 3: 1 “This [is] a TRUE saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. 2A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; 3Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; 4One that ruleth (proistémi) well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; 5(For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God? ) 6Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. 7Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
    1. 1. If a man: In the Greek: εἴ - Transliteration: ei tis - Phonetic spelling: i tis. he that, if a man, whether any, whosoever. If a man is not referring specifically to a male. You can also put in the place of “If a man” - Whosoever!
    *The interlinear Greek bible says if anyone aspires to the overseership…
    2. The husband of one wife: Can also be stated or the wife of one husband.
    * This one scripture is not to be made a doctrine out of. You don’t have to be married to be an elder, pastor or bishop but if you are… Jesus wasn't married, Timothy wasn’t married, and neither was Paul (although it is believed that at one time he had been married but widowed).
    1 Cor 16: 19, “The churches of Asia salute you. Aquila and Priscilla salute you much in the Lord, with the church that is in their house. 20All the brethren greet you. Greet ye one another with an holy kiss.”
    *Aquila and Priscilla shared the responsibility of overseeing the church that was in their house. Also they both pulled Apollos aside to instruct him in the things of God more perfectly.
    In conclusion, a woman’s role in leadership is not an attack on women but an attack on God’s heart, mind, and mood on this subject.

    • @JessicaBrown777
      @JessicaBrown777 3 роки тому +1

      I think about the book Handmaiden Conspiracy- Which has really blessed me to understand this

    • @Bible33AD
      @Bible33AD Рік тому

      How does one get in touch with you? Thanks

    • @Bible33AD
      @Bible33AD Рік тому

      How does one get in touch with you? Thanks

  • @elhernandez3921
    @elhernandez3921 2 роки тому

    :For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.: Galatians 1:10-12
    "For there is no respect of persons with God." Romans 2:11
    ''Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:' Isaiah 46:

  • @samsamer1942
    @samsamer1942 2 роки тому +2

    in the Old Testament women were leaders and judges and prophetes... but in the New Testament, is to remain silent? hmmmm I don't think so... 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. Please pay attention the wore "I" that Paul said... Paul Said " I don't allow" He didn't say the LORD... this is a personal pastoral preference.
    think about this: there are soooo many women that are better leader than men... there are houses thriving because of women in the house...

    • @carlottaforJesus
      @carlottaforJesus Рік тому

      God TOLD me to be a supervisor at my workplace. He promoted me. Deborah was a judge. Roles are important but these scriptures are tough to figure out. I am a female street preacher. I once was told I coudn't do this as a woman. Yet God told me to and still tells me to.

  • @Bible33AD
    @Bible33AD Рік тому

    Masterful gaslighting. No review of Greek ot Hebrew text or the heart of the Father. Indoctrination.