I watched this when it first came in movie and then the book . I have discussed the book and movie for years. I am always amazed how people can imagine what a future can be and it comes to pass.
@@kathyshearer81 i think its the other way around. Movies and books create fictional gadgets device and other types of stuff then we get inspired by them, just like in this movie after it was released others wanted to create a flat tv.
OMG... Did he just predict Facebook/Twitter? Us, giving opinions on irrelevant topics nobody cares about and getting praised ("liked") for it??? F... How did we become like this!?
Notice she didn't answer the first question and they said she was right. Obviously no connection between her and the actors. And she completely missed that.
This is not supposed to be interactive. it’s showing you how we are brainwashed into having opinions we think are our own by mainstream culture. Montag begins to realise that there is alternative hidden knowledge. He is the hero in the film. In reality, he is marginalised as a tin-foil hat wearing Conspiracy Theorist. we are currently undergoing a new book burning as independent researchers are smeared as Fake News and knowledge is digitised by Amazon, whose owner Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post and has a nine figure deal with the CIA. “KINDLE FIRE” anyone????
@@andrewwright9378 This guy gets it. The clip is not misnamed. It's obvious to everyone watching this clip, but Linda just doesn't understand. She thinks the people on TV are her friends and family, and that they care what her opinion is. They don't. They're performing for a paycheck, just like everyone you see on TV in the present day. That's the point.
She’s brainwashed and this program was just another tool to keep her thinking that the terrible critical thinking she has is good, it’s pre programmed obviously
There is, however, a program that personalizes the show so that Linda's name is used. That convinces her that the actors really are speaking to her directly and listening to her responses. Every regular viewer would be addressed by his or her name in the same way. This keeps the population dumbed down and under control.
Exactly. The scene depicts a TYPICAL CNN viewer looking for validation by agreeing with all the bullshit they hear on that channel. I can't believe some people watch this scene and all they comment on is the flat screen TV.....WTF.
Funny when they were predicting the future, they were... Predicting us... Everything in this scene we have. There are interactive films, and that size tv is average for most people. Even now we are forgetting life other than just technology.
gelpenzgo As well as her in bed talking about what her friend thought of her, it is basically a primitive social media, the woman depends on how others perceive her.
In the book, the TV was wall to wall, and she had two other walls converted into TVs too. She started pestering Guy to completely enclose the room in TVs for a fully immersive experience
Making everyone feel “important”, “inclusive,” and eventually turn against your husband, like she did when she saw he had books in the house. She turned in him, ratted him out.
The book is so much different than the movie. Linda's name is actually Millie/Mildred. In the book she represents the wrest of society. Someone who is easily drawn into tv, suicidal, and she loves "the parlor family" heck the woman thinks that's her actual family.
Probably one of the most redeeming parts of the "movie". Watching it today it doesn't seem like a TV wall at all but when it was made this was probably so foreign and futuristic.
In the book TVs were described as a full wall or 4 full walls if you could afford it. They considered this about size about as extravagant in 1966 I suppose
Probably more like current day Yahoo, Google, Facebook, etc. It has a cookie for you viewing and customizes the output to you. If you were in another home, you might have heard Jane, George, Sue, or whatever your name was.
Is this the same woman who berated her husband, the fireman, in the book for not making enough money to have screens on four walls, making her eligible for a starring role in the neverending interactive show? OMG! Bradbury really did foresee social media!
Around are house its always interactive television. I challenge parents all the time to turn on their closed captioning or narrative for the blind to enrich their television experience.
This prophesized all the banal TV about banal relationships. The "choose your own adventure TV" was definitely bogus like it would be in real life since Linda was supposed to agree. And there was no adventure. They were talking about how to set up the seating for a dinner party of all things. As far as that part about "Be one of the family.", you notice how real life media personalities love to throw around the word "fam" a lot.
if you think about it this resambles video games the most [rpg games to be exact] like you can select "choice" or dialouge option but its not really what you want to say or you dont say anything at all and game automaticily selects randomly for you...
The original book described wall-sized TV screens on multiple sides of the room. This shows a TV that's no different from average sized by today's standards.
well! we have that too called the 'Wall' by Samsung. The Wall is made by micro led display panels that can be put together seamlessly to make any size screen you want.
Part of it had to do with the technology of the day and the budget of the film. Even so, a 27 inch TV was HUGE in those days and nothing close to flat screen. What they show was incredible at the time.
What’s interesting is now we have even bigger TV’s just like that and we’re listening to seashells that are smaller and directly into your eardrums. And there’s another thing, attention spans are decreasing with the whole 15 seconds of fame. Now a goldfish can pay more attention to things, I would say this accurately predicted the future even though it didn’t want to.
this tv show is so wield and strange and it makes me feel uncomfortable, especially the serious look when "linda what do you think" and the last "linda you are absolutely fantastic"... and why did the director change the name, I remember she is called mildred in the book, and also beatty's name was changed and there is no faber in this movie.
Internet was real much before we know that it existed. By the way in movie the Eraser with Schwarzenegger its showed the Rail Machine Gun, now the Navy said it was created.
Ah, the dilemmas of the middle class on interactive TV. Where to seat the guests for dinner and which room to put them in. The rest of us are struggling to survive, and all the middle class can think about is seat arrangement.
My mom sometimes calls my dad by his (well, mine too) last name. Some of her friends do it too (well, those who kept their maiden names). They don’t consider it weird. Have you ever watched Scrubs? Carla only ever calls her husband Turk (his full name is Christopher Turk), as does his best friend JD.
I recently viewed the 1976 film "A Bridge Too Far" and realized that Bernard, on the left, is played by Donald Pickering. He's listed in the credits as "TV Announcer." He portrayed Lieutenant Colonel Mackenzie in "A Bridge Too Far." Then, I found an expanded cast listing for "Fahrenheit 451" and discovered that Charles, on the right, is credited as "Cousin Midge - TV Personality" and is portrayed by actor Noel Davis. Mystery solved.
This is such a good movie. I can't remember what class it was, but I think it was history, we watched this movie at school. I had a really interesting high school teacher that I had for more than one class. He was kind of a but whole, however he had really interesting things to teach sometimes.
Ray Bradbury the elite science fiction writer god bless his sole was extremely extraordinary man Francois Truffaut the leading French director in the 1960s was a wonderful director, Music by Bernard Herman I have been watching that movie since I saw it first time late about 1969 In Cairo Egypt so many times over the years . Bought the video tape for it from Switzerland in 1986 and bought it agin from Blackbuster in New Jersey about 1998 . It’s clear that Ray Bradbury predicted the current technology 50 years earlier
Flat screen television. Interaction with live tv shows. Bradbury's book talks of people that are stressed running over people with their cars. A society where knowledge, learning, book reading is forbidden. They, don't want you to know how bad things, really are. Any similarities of today??
Hahah, no, but almost as strange... she pulled out 2 ashtrays from the oven (or a fold down cupboard?) and brought them into the living room, even though her husband isn't smoking in this scene and they could easily share an ashtray if he was. I guess they were trying to make the kitchen look futuristic, or at least different from the time, but it doesn't come off that way to me... it just looks like an oven. 😏
Anyone else catch how Will Ferrel, "jokingly," implemented the same method in November, 2024, telling, "Gary," that he needed to get his vote for Harris in?
They nailed the tv aspect ratio but that's about it. The antique furniture/decor everywhere, beatnik attire, pretentious breath-y manner of talking, etc are all things that pretty much never existed beyond the 60's. Also, white kitchen appliances are considered tacky and low-budget in today's time, even though every movie from this era predicted they'd be considered elegant status symbols in the future.
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This is an amazing prediction. Today's TVs look exactly like that.
I watched this when it first came in movie and then the book . I have discussed the book and movie for years. I am always amazed how people can imagine what a future can be and it comes to pass.
@@kathyshearer81 i think its the other way around. Movies and books create fictional gadgets device and other types of stuff then we get inspired by them, just like in this movie after it was released others wanted to create a flat tv.
And the programming about as vapid and empty as well.
Especially little children’s shows like Blues Clues and Dora the Explorer
1984 predicted Peloton mirrors.
Ray Bradbury correctly prophesied so many things, for example one of the creepiest things.
The seashells Mildred wears are *AIR PODS*
not airpods as what was worn by Linda wasn't wireless. Just a single earbud.
@@swifty1969 i thought i remember them being wireless man
@@swifty1969 They absolutely were wireless.
As was the one montag wore.
No, they got the idea to make airpods from this book.
Dora the explorer on extreme difficulty
This comment wins the Internet for today.
Holy shit
DORA: You're absolutely fantastic.
XD DORA - 2018 anyone
Just what I was thinking.
OMG... Did he just predict Facebook/Twitter? Us, giving opinions on irrelevant topics nobody cares about and getting praised ("liked") for it??? F... How did we become like this!?
Ula Kisielewska
Through Social engineering. It has been the goal for the rich to dumb us down as the years go by.
Exactly...it's sad to see so many people, especially the younger generations, forming a straight nice line of sheep being led to slaughter.
Yeah....this movie is becoming a reality...I love Bradbury's work! I have read many of his pieces and not one has disappointed me yet!
the books are the model for those who influence and control...they couldn't think it up themselves.!
Simple: we don’t have standards. We never did.
Notice she didn't answer the first question and they said she was right. Obviously no connection between her and the actors. And she completely missed that.
Obviously faux 'interactivity." This clip is mischaracterized.
This is not supposed to be interactive. it’s showing you how we are brainwashed into having opinions we think are our own by mainstream culture. Montag begins to realise that there is alternative hidden knowledge. He is the hero in the film. In reality, he is marginalised as a tin-foil hat wearing Conspiracy Theorist. we are currently undergoing a new book burning as independent researchers are smeared as Fake News and knowledge is digitised by Amazon, whose owner Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post and has a nine figure deal with the CIA. “KINDLE FIRE” anyone????
@@andrewwright9378 This guy gets it. The clip is not misnamed. It's obvious to everyone watching this clip, but Linda just doesn't understand. She thinks the people on TV are her friends and family, and that they care what her opinion is. They don't. They're performing for a paycheck, just like everyone you see on TV in the present day. That's the point.
She’s brainwashed and this program was just another tool to keep her thinking that the terrible critical thinking she has is good, it’s pre programmed obviously
There is, however, a program that personalizes the show so that Linda's name is used. That convinces her that the actors really are speaking to her directly and listening to her responses. Every regular viewer would be addressed by his or her name in the same way. This keeps the population dumbed down and under control.
The ironic part about this is that most people, including me, would be more captivated by the kaleidoscope fractal preshow.
How do you know what most people would be captivated by?
It's so scary how right he was. I'd hate a future with no books. Worse dystopia ever!
Shhhhh. Go download something on your kindle. ;)
Especially when the movie remakes are almost never as good
I mean majority of the books are online now 😂
Exactly. The scene depicts a TYPICAL CNN viewer looking for validation by agreeing with all the bullshit they hear on that channel. I can't believe some people watch this scene and all they comment on is the flat screen TV.....WTF.
@@313-v9k so you literally believe Fox News, OAN and Newsmax is better? I hope to god you are not one of those embarrassing MAGA QAnon supporters
Just watched this movie and the flat screen concept stood out the most to me, also the show with the 2 guys reminded me of a Saturday Night Live skit.
Funny when they were predicting the future, they were... Predicting us... Everything in this scene we have. There are interactive films, and that size tv is average for most people. Even now we are forgetting life other than just technology.
And the programming really is this stupid and empty, now. Check out her childlike, hynotized expression as she watches. Really good.
cmtmj2006 The fuck does that have to do with anything?
gelpenzgo
As well as her in bed talking about what her friend thought of her, it is basically a primitive social media, the woman depends on how others perceive her.
In the book, the TV was wall to wall, and she had two other walls converted into TVs too. She started pestering Guy to completely enclose the room in TVs for a fully immersive experience
Positive affirmations dopamine feedback loop mechanism at play...
I love this scene, it's hysterical!
"LINDA, WHAT DO YOU THINK? HEYYY?"
Making everyone feel “important”, “inclusive,” and eventually turn against your husband, like she did when she saw he had books in the house. She turned in him, ratted him out.
The book is so much different than the movie. Linda's name is actually Millie/Mildred. In the book she represents the wrest of society. Someone who is easily drawn into tv, suicidal, and she loves "the parlor family" heck the woman thinks that's her actual family.
Probably one of the most redeeming parts of the "movie". Watching it today it doesn't seem like a TV wall at all but when it was made this was probably so foreign and futuristic.
The original invention of social media, with just as effective results. Mark Zuckerberg must have watched this as a child.
Mork Fuckerberg is a dweeb who stole others' concepts
In the novel there were three large screens which covered three walls completely.
Именно. И думали о покупке 4ой
Best we can do is a 42 inch tv 😂
Linda......YOUR ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC!!!
I’ve been so confused on why they called Montag’s wife Linda. I guess I’ve gotten used to the book calling her Mildred or Millie.
Linda, you're absolutely fantastic.
Seeing this in 2020 it basically looks like he’s in a zoom meeting
Julie Chritie was absolutely beautiful
Who in 2020? Reading this book.
Everytime the technological paradigm of a society shift so much in such little time you can literally see the future.
This was prophecy: Ray Bradbury showed you the coming of “ Reality Television”.
What the heck it cut out the part where he tells her it's fake. It the most memorable part of the movie.
In the book TVs were described as a full wall or 4 full walls if you could afford it. They considered this about size about as extravagant in 1966 I suppose
"What do you think, Linda?"...????..."That´s the correct answer! Linda, you´re perfectly right!"
It's a wonderful prediction of TV sets! This is the future.
A wonderful prediction on smartphone culture.
Even gets the aspect ratio pretty much correct. 16:9 instead of the 4:3 of the time.
The best part is, it's not even interactive. They just address a selected name, and each girl with that name in the country thinks she is on.
Probably more like current day Yahoo, Google, Facebook, etc. It has a cookie for you viewing and customizes the output to you. If you were in another home, you might have heard Jane, George, Sue, or whatever your name was.
Is this the same woman who berated her husband, the fireman, in the book for not making enough money to have screens on four walls, making her eligible for a starring role in the neverending interactive show? OMG! Bradbury really did foresee social media!
We must not forget that the technology we enjoy nowadays was developed in countries that have Books and libraries.
Somehow,we behave like Linda does;eg: When we use You Tube to type our comments.And we're happy for that.Of course the firemen have not showed up yet.
And many of the books are being canceled. Burning is just a metaphor for censorship.
nightmare fuel as a kid
Yeah
Right! We had to watch this in school and I hated it. And now here we are living the nightmare.
This movie and the book are fucking scary - Maybe in 1966 it was Sci-Fi, but from today point of view is almost like Documentary about our times.
just wait until you hear about Idiocracy from 2006!
Remarkably, Bradbury wrote the book in 1951. A revised version was the published book in 1953.
imagine seeing this 2020 for school
Been there done that
Oh the irony of having an Alexa reading your mind commercial before this video starts 😂
Around are house its always interactive television. I challenge parents all the time to turn on their closed captioning or narrative for the blind to enrich their television experience.
This prophesized all the banal TV about banal relationships. The "choose your own adventure TV" was definitely bogus like it would be in real life since Linda was supposed to agree. And there was no adventure. They were talking about how to set up the seating for a dinner party of all things. As far as that part about "Be one of the family.", you notice how real life media personalities love to throw around the word "fam" a lot.
if you think about it this resambles video games the most [rpg games to be exact] like you can select "choice" or dialouge option but its not really what you want to say or you dont say anything at all and game automaticily selects randomly for you...
It's kind of funny the movie is mocking our Century right now LOL
WHAT DO YOU THINK LINDA:)))))))
We're there.
The original book described wall-sized TV screens on multiple sides of the room. This shows a TV that's no different from average sized by today's standards.
well! we have that too called the 'Wall' by Samsung. The Wall is made by micro led display panels that can be put together seamlessly to make any size screen you want.
Part of it had to do with the technology of the day and the budget of the film. Even so, a 27 inch TV was HUGE in those days and nothing close to flat screen. What they show was incredible at the time.
@@swifty1969 You write like a commercial. How much did they buy you off for?
Spinning colorful umbrellas filmed trough a caleidoscope. Cool visual effect for the 60s!
What’s interesting is now we have even bigger TV’s just like that and we’re listening to seashells that are smaller and directly into your eardrums. And there’s another thing, attention spans are decreasing with the whole 15 seconds of fame. Now a goldfish can pay more attention to things, I would say this accurately predicted the future even though it didn’t want to.
Holy shit it’s like gaming and reality TV in 2024! How did Ray Bradbury predict this?
While the TV prediction is good, these guys predicted Frasier.
You saw, I gave all the right answers.........
The book is SO MUCH better.
We do have real-time podcast live and you can even watch it on an 88 inch screen if you have $ 2,000.
And of course we have ZOOM and Skype and other such things.
this tv show is so wield and strange and it makes me feel uncomfortable, especially the serious look when "linda what do you think" and the last "linda you are absolutely fantastic"... and why did the director change the name, I remember she is called mildred in the book, and also beatty's name was changed and there is no faber in this movie.
+Yinfeng Lu
Someone (probably the studio) thought Mildred sounded like a name for old women, so it was changed to something more modern.
Goodness, what a banal, pointless, grindingly irritating television program. Still, better than the Big Bang Theory.
Boom!!!! Well said
😂 Best. Comment. EVER!
Internet was real much before we know that it existed.
By the way in movie the Eraser with Schwarzenegger its showed the Rail Machine Gun, now the Navy said it was created.
Ah, the dilemmas of the middle class on interactive TV. Where to seat the guests for dinner and which room to put them in. The rest of us are struggling to survive, and all the middle class can think about is seat arrangement.
I would love to see this film, but UA-cam won't allow it.
She refers to her husband by his last name? They must have a very cold relationship.
Learn to use BitTorrent and P2P file sharing then
My mom sometimes calls my dad by his (well, mine too) last name. Some of her friends do it too (well, those who kept their maiden names). They don’t consider it weird.
Have you ever watched Scrubs? Carla only ever calls her husband Turk (his full name is Christopher Turk), as does his best friend JD.
In 1968, they show you a flat screen TV that can see and hear you. Smart TV of today. They have been telling your future for years. Wake Up.
I didn't know that UA-cam existed in the 60's...
"Think what." Exactly. No holier than thou, no precept to the ultimate truth. "Think what" is was makes humanity, or makes animals.
in the book ALL THE WALLS were interactive video.
This is addressed in the movie when Linda asks Montag for a second unit.
Who were the actors that played Bernard and Charles? They are not listed in the credits on the IMDb.
I think one of them (on the left) is Edward Woodward.
I recently viewed the 1976 film "A Bridge Too Far" and realized that Bernard, on the left, is played by Donald Pickering. He's listed in the credits as "TV Announcer." He portrayed Lieutenant Colonel Mackenzie in "A Bridge Too Far." Then, I found an expanded cast listing for "Fahrenheit 451" and discovered that Charles, on the right, is credited as "Cousin Midge - TV Personality" and is portrayed by actor Noel Davis. Mystery solved.
I mean, how do you think they got the idea to make flat-screen TVs?
Montag has the exact expression I have on his face when I deal with the humanoids day to day......
Mark Zuckerberg: Come cousins. Join me in this beautiful new world called the metaverse.
How big do you think that TV is?, i'm rocking a Vizio 39” E390.
Black Mirror Bandersnatch meets POV Tiktok culture
That is scenario planning.
Just give everyone their own special flashing book. No one will care about paper books anymore.
This is an example of a meta verse
This is such a good movie. I can't remember what class it was, but I think it was history, we watched this movie at school. I had a really interesting high school teacher that I had for more than one class. He was kind of a but whole, however he had really interesting things to teach sometimes.
Ray Bradbury the elite science fiction writer god bless his sole was extremely extraordinary man
Francois Truffaut the leading French director in the 1960s was a wonderful director, Music by Bernard Herman
I have been watching that movie since I saw it first time late about 1969 In Cairo Egypt so many times over the years . Bought the video tape for it from Switzerland in 1986 and bought it agin from Blackbuster in New Jersey about 1998 . It’s clear that Ray Bradbury predicted the current technology 50 years earlier
Flat screen television.
Interaction with live tv shows.
Bradbury's book talks of people that are stressed running over people with their cars.
A society where knowledge, learning, book reading is forbidden.
They, don't want you to know how bad things, really are.
Any similarities of today??
Montag's wife didn't get a second wall screen. Sucks. She thought he was going to be getting a raise. :(
Same aspect ratio as todays popular tvs
I laughed so fucking hard at this
So, books are banned, but newspapers are okay?
Bandersnatch on Netflix is kinda like this.
How csn they write a play, books have been banne!
Did they pull their dinner out of the oven and then leave it in the other room?
Hahah, no, but almost as strange... she pulled out 2 ashtrays from the oven (or a fold down cupboard?) and brought them into the living room, even though her husband isn't smoking in this scene and they could easily share an ashtray if he was. I guess they were trying to make the kitchen look futuristic, or at least different from the time, but it doesn't come off that way to me... it just looks like an oven. 😏
Anyone else catch how Will Ferrel, "jokingly," implemented the same method in November, 2024, telling, "Gary," that he needed to get his vote for Harris in?
it's like x-factor, no?
The movie Star wars shows holograms, now are being created. In true, all technology by now already existed, its being showed time by time
I don't think true holograms like the ones depicted in movies like Star Wars or Star Trek is impossible to achieve. You can't stop photons in mid-air.
I'll have a Big Mac Meal, Large size, with a Sprite for the drink.
What accent is this?
It sounds Transatlantic, a fake accent used in old movies
I always wanted to come up with interactive TV shows on demand for children and families. This could make a wonderful innovation for multimedia
Jordan Herkowski and Mickey Mouse clubhouse
This must be made by Bethesda.
Reminds me of Black Mirror: Bandersnatch
Welcome to the present
Not too far off topic of George Orwell - 1984
The blue room? The hell are you smoking, Linda?
not only the flat screen tv of today was predicted accurately so was the earbud worn by her in bed.
Mildred is pathetically gullible. Doesnt she realize that this script was sent to everybody?
This version of the movie kind of nailed it.
Cough "Twitter" cough
This is how it feels to have a wife playing Genshin Impact. Lol.
Anybody think about how this could very well be AI
They nailed the tv aspect ratio but that's about it. The antique furniture/decor everywhere, beatnik attire, pretentious breath-y manner of talking, etc are all things that pretty much never existed beyond the 60's. Also, white kitchen appliances are considered tacky and low-budget in today's time, even though every movie from this era predicted they'd be considered elegant status symbols in the future.
Speak for yourself there, buddy. I regularly sit on the floor smoking ciggies and talking to the TV.
And I always answer correctly. 🚬
@@othertalk3313 I too do this. So they nailed 2 things in the movie
You’re missing the point: what they “nailed” is our empty narcissism.
Do you could send me this full movie?
Mildred is so beautiful
OMG - so prescient of today’s dumbing down and PC conformity.
is that steve carell?
why did she call him montag tf
They invented Skype and flat screen tv!
Bingo.
This is the family fued version. Dumbing us all down .