nah more just one uniform government that is always stable because the leadership never changes plus they have full control over the country’s finances and can do as they please therefor they can use the power of their state to boss and improve areas quickly whereas western countries and other democratic governments like india they have a system where the government cannot move and make changes as fast as an authoritarian government can
China also grew faster because most students HAVE to return home. Many students file a condition with the govt that after a time abroad they must come back home, else the govt would take their family's lands. Plus, taking your research back home to give to the Chinese Govt is a lucrative way to make a life in China. Not to mention, Chinese govt has their own less than ideal methods of promoting growth at the cost of kicking entire villagers out of their homes, demolishing the buildings and giving them to construction companies where the same villagers will now be forced to pay rent to live in.
*A few people or country outside of India understand India, because India has -* *1) Europe's diversity* *2) China's scale* *3) US's drive and ambition* *4) Africa's hope* *India has so many things at once, which is why you need to be in India to truly appreciate it.*
A lot of potential, but with no effective caring leadership. It's like walking into a pile of garbage lying on your desk. You can't achieve anything without standards and quality sister. Something most asians in general know little about.. just take one look at their cities and towns.
Reasons: 1. Language - Indians are far more proficient in the English language than the Chinese are. 2. Entrepreneurship - higher percentage of Chinese choosing entrepreneurship soon after graduation than being employees 3. Home country appeal - better opportunities beckoning in China. 4. American establishment preference for Indians over Chinese - there’s geopolitical baggage. Conclusion: It is what it is but I wouldn’t worry about it. It doesn’t mean that one group is doing better than the other but rather that one group is more visible in America than the other.
@@AS-ug2vq I can't disagree with you. But success is not the same for any two individuals given that everyone is in a different station in life. The fairer assertion is that they're all successful in their different ways.
@@AS-ug2vq No. This is related to history and culture. 1. India is multi-ethnic and multi-religious - meaning we are ready to adopt and co-operate (forget 1947 separation for a moment) 2. China was always secluded from the rest of the World. India was always an immigration hub of British and other Europeans, Arabs, Persians, Turks, Tibetan, Afghans, etc. Our languages have heavy foreign influence - which shows we were always integrated to the rest of the world.
I am Chinese born and raised in America, i have great respect for the Indian people. I am in contact with a lot of indian immigrants and i see my parents in them
@@GTXBOY1650 I've asked multiple Indians in the US this question and the answer I always get is the reservation system in India based on caste is the reason they leave
@@lancehenderson9844 oh yeah ...caste system is burning it ...they want us not to do caste discrimination and highlight caste everywhere in form of reservation...
Indian's grow up in a multilingual & multicultural environment. This not only makes them mentally sharp but also respects & accept new culture/people easily. Indian's considers the impact on the surroundings due to their actions. The world accepts Indians because of the Democracy at the homeland.
@Studies Only You advocate painting all the multi colored flowers that bloom in India's culural garden with one paint? Not doable,my friend..It's way,way beyond the capability of any person to do it.You know why? Each person passionately believes in, supports,practices and loves his own litle sub-culture.
@youtube sold out to CCP what ever you may call buddy, In India every culture thrives dating back centuries and there is minimal culture death. Also here people and emotions are valued more than things which is the the base for success. Progress might be slow!
@UA-cam sold out to CCP well obviously if you keep seeing your filth-ridden western media you will often get a wrong impression. India has a lot of problems but has come a long way and is tackling its problems yet you people from the west only know how to be racist.
I have worked in Silicon Valley for decades as an American. I have Indian and Chinese friends in the tech industry. One thing that I have observed is that Indians are more interested in management roles. Chinese are more interested in being the model employee. Indians also have a head start on the language - English. So it's easier for the educated ones to adopt quickly.
As an Indian, I appreciate what Chinese people have done for their country in almost every field through immense hard-work and contribution eventually making it a superpower. RESPECT. 🙏. PEACE. ✌️
Okay china is a superpower 🤣🤣🤣 It's an assumed power The list includes BRICS NATION DON'T REMAIN IN A LITTLE MISCONSEPTION WE ARE (BRICS) LIGHT YEARS BEHIND USA
The Chinese are on the right track pursuing Entrepreneurship model of career as opposed to the Employment model. That is why China has its own big tech and India is playing catchup. Employment career model is great for learning and raising capital but you can only get rich and make impact through entrepreneurship.
@@pradipchaterjee9576 The only thing China is behind the usa is in semi conductor technology, China has already surpassed the u.s in other key technologies in the world including communications and far surpasses the u.s in terms of infrastructure or any other country in the world. Their manufacturing strength is unmatched and alone accounts for 30% of global manufacturing output. They have the largest and most advanced high speed rail network in the world, the u.s has zero kilometres of high speed rail. They've already won the space race and even the tech race. According to the Aspi China leads in 37 out of 44 Key technologies of the future. All they need to do now is to develop their chip technology and they would be way ahead of the u.s. The only thing the u.s is truly ahead of China would be military equipment ig but it really isn't a surprise given how the u.s spends more than 10x the amount China does because of their imperialistic and war mongering tendencies. India truly is a lot behind the u.s but China isn't. You nust have hear about de-dollarisation at this point and how Saudi Arabia because of whom the petrodollar deal exists has sided with Brics the reserve currency status of the u.s dollar would soon fall and the u.s will fall into a catastrophic pit of debt accumulated due to all the inhumane, imperialistic and war mongering deeds it has commited just to maintain it's hegemony.
I am an Indian but I would like to thank you for this thoughtful and compassionate look at the modern Chinese experience in America. I respect the brilliance and hard work that so many Chinese students have and I hope they achieve the good lives they deserve.
@@nihaomrzhang it is just a myth that indians are more successful than Chinese in USA ,CANADA .... Completely false...many well known US companies were founded by Chinese...CHINESE AMERICAN HAVE ACHIEVED MORE THAN INDIAN AMERICAN. EVEN IN SPORTS FROM MICHAEL CHANG'S GRAND SLAM VICTORY TO NATHAN CHEN'S FIGURE SKATING GOLD ...THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLE THAT CHINESE DID...EVEN PHILIPPINO, JAPANESE, KOREAN AMERICANS ARE FAR SUPERIOR TO INDIAN AMERICAN Although indian communities are rich , they haven't achieved that much
But the whole reason though is that indian work a looooooooooooot more then chineese Why? Cause they experienced what its like true poverty. Having to work everydays in bad conditions and still dont have much money While the young generation asian from usa china south korea japan are more spoiled then anything. Since their parents are rich. They didnt experience true misery If you have experienced misery you can have that will to work very hard
I think he is being hard on his Chinese compatriots. They have developed China in a way that Indians have not. Hopefully now attitudes are changing for the betterment of India. Also Indians grow up with speaking English or at the very least, they know the language exists somewhere. This is not the case for Chinese. Finally, I think Indians have a different attitude that make them better or far more superior managers. They understand people and try to do a give and take. An indian employer may keep a space for you in his company if you want to go and look after your family for a year or more. The understanding is that you don't get paid. But if you come back and the company is still doing well and we have a space, we will take you. The chinese or white employer do not handle people in this diplomatic way. so offcourse they will be less popular as head of any organisation! In short, Indians manage to keep their humanity but the others deny it! And everybody else including themselves suffer!
The Indians I know in the US that are very successful really work as a family team. My neighbors own six 7-Eleven stores, and 3 or 4 almond farms, but they have lots of family members throughout the area doing this almost like a corporation.
I am an Indian in US and I have worked with several Chinese nationals in the past and continue to work with them now. I have always felt that my Chinese colleagues were more detail oriented, very hard working, never took short cuts and were always very humble in their approach towards others. The only thing that kept them from growing faster was their communication. If they overcome this problem they will be equally or may be even more successful than Indians in US.
We indians born with the fact that you will meet new people and culture every now or then.. I think india's diversity with religion, people, languages, traditions and race helps a lot for us to get mingle with others.. (And we are very friendly too😅).
Talent is everywhere. INDIANS go outside and develop other countries just for sake of some dollars... Chinese stays in their home and develop their own country. Thats why world use "Made in China products" saying that as an Indian :(
@Yomangamer Right bro. The main problem is reservation. I think that government should develop the government schools and provide quality education and quality teachers for free and then remove the reservation. Then it will have equal opportunity for all as they will also get quality education.
@Yomangamer I think that no leader has dare to remove reservation as they can lose next elections. If I can become a leader I will remove this like whoa
@Yomangamer We middle income persons suffer a lot due to reservation. I am also preparing for IIT and even here is reservation 😭😭😂😂. We must have to unite and force the government to remove reservation or we have to make a political party ourselves (which is almost impossible)
Great topic to discuss. My personal view here in the hope it will help someone. The reasons I agree: 1. English proficiency 2. Able to relate to American culture and create relationships. Reasons you missed: 1. Confidence. Many Chinese candidates I work with are reserved, afraid to speak their minds even when they are right. When they do speak out, they double guess. Reasons I don't know: 1. Indians also have the habit of hanging out with only Indians (if they have a choice (i.e larger companies with more Indians) , they will only hangout with the folks from their Indian state) So I am not so sure about Indian university students 'buddy up' better than Chinese. My knowledge of American culture and ability to relate comes just from exposure to American TV SHOWS, movies and other media. For curious people: My wife (from mainland China) and I (India) discussed this at length. I have been in leadership roles in the USA for many years and interviewed and hired many people). I have also lived in Singapore and other parts of Asia for number of years.
@Peter Parker dont u overthink sir.. India has the toughest exams .... We all students try our best ,study with our whole mights to clear the entrance Exams so that we can be admitted to best colleges and reach our goals....... And do u think these much of hardship is to get white spouse then u r truly mistaken please correct ur thoughts🙏
@Peter Parker have u read the title sir..its all about why most Indians are successful...and uploader clarifies it in whole video obviously these indicates the brain not beauty. And if u are firm on your reply then just upload your video with the survey and analysis done over it I would like to see that.. I would not have denied u sir, becoz I am the person respecting others thoughts bt I have read ur comments and reply in other section also where I can understand that u have no point and just criticizing Indians.... I will not ask ur nationality because the problem is with ur mindset not nation.....bt I would like to ask u.... If the other animals in jungle have competed with us human being in brains and technology race so whom would u have supported???🙏
The main reason is due to the diversity in india they never need any adjusting in any other country...thus they adapt quickly and learn languages quickly and just make it their comfort zone and thus progress.
@@aalhadbapat3489 oh man oh don't generalize anything many places in Africa are really good and so are many good places in India . India now is lower middle economy and in 2 year's it will be higher middle income country if all goes well, And another thing is quality of life is not always depends on money (if you ever have time visit Himachal ) what people have to change is mindset.
@@abhishekkaith1686 in two years it's impossible to be higher middle income country bro I read on google it says it will take 20 years to reach $15000 per capita income which is higher right now we are on $7000.
@@aalhadbapat3489 oh bro sorry for type i mean to in between higher and lower middle because india is now in top three in lower middle countries and to reach higher middle it will take 10 years www.worldbank.org/en/country/india/overview#1
For most Indians in America, returning to India is not an option, because we don't have cities like Shanghai or Shenzhen, where you can continue to live a first world lifestyle. Indian cities like Mumbai or Bangalore are improving, but are still far behind western cities. Chinese on the other hand don't miss America as much if they move back to advanced Chinese cities.
I’m Nigerian so I have limited knowledge on this. However I notice that commonwealth countries (English speaking/anglophone) countries have more political, cultural ties to USA, UK, Canada, Australia etc so India benefits from this. Asians are smart people in GENERAL ✊🏼❤️
American here. I never thought about the points made by the guy in this video, but he's probably right. I've personally seen Indians work hard at their English speaking skills in various public speaker associations such as Toastmasters. My Indian colleagues join in casual conversations at work just like any other American does. Mark Cuban said that in the near future Liberal Arts majors would be highly valued at tech companies because of their communication skills. Good video
Good one on the Toastmasters observation. My mother related to me that situation in her club. She said that one indian guy was so nervous speaking that when he finished he looked like a bucket of water had been poured on him. But he never gave quit and improved greatly. As others have posted, India being part of the anglo-sphere is a head start. And more round-aboutly, every chinese person that I have known, if not a communist, has the opinion that the Cultural Revolution was an epic moral and spiritual disaster for the Chinese. The Cultural Revolution destroyed the ideal of public trust.
I'm and Indian-Canadian who's friends are mostly all Chinese and I speak Cantonese as most of my friends growing up were from Hong Kong and am learning Mandarin because I love the culture and people and love traveling to China. Ya we Indians are smart and successful undoubtably but our counterpart Chinese friends are also smart, family oriented, have similar values and work hard just like us. Birds of a different feather colour! Xie xie
This could actually be a good thing for China, as highly skilled and educated Chinese students return and build their nation. That may in part explain the difference in GDP and size of the economies. India on the other hand is losing its top talent to the US.
@@shermanpeabody6102 that's half true... Chinese comprise 2nd largest nationality... They they come back cuz they don't get extended visas... So do Indians Like my brother came too .
But, the fact that smart people of Chinese origin are returning to china to make china great is something that deserves appreciation. They’re using US to learn , implementing their skills for the nation where they were born. 👏🏼 👏🏼
@@sankalp5710 I actually noticed that as well. In the opposite side, I worked with a lot of Indians and some of them really hate the current government. One guy even said, I will never go back.
@@ЛуисЛу-ъ4я Yes, people here are very anti-government. Every second day there's some kind of protest and we have to shut down for an entire day. Being anti-government is alright but people are now hating the whole country. People should understand we can't turn our country to Europe overnight .
@Yusuf patel people made the government, most of the Indians doesn't like chinese policies so as chinese. And yes India has partners who shakes their hands and raises together, don't mix with you 'car driver' PM.
China won't let you grow with them. If you have doubt, get some information about how china dumps products in Indian market anw how they have close internet in their country.
Are you sure because India has 1. 3 billion people and 1 million Indians are millionaires so I would say read about us more , watch BBC, CNN less and stop being prejudice towards us
I would say that our background of being raised in tough and competitive environment make us what we are. Indians and Chinese have been competitive from a good time. Our skills combined could do miracles. I had experienced that in past when I did a class assignment with a Chinese classmate and we scored the highest. Keep working guys (India and china) the world needs you.
Answer: Because Chinese in China are more successful than Indians in india. Indians can be fully integrated into the American society, but most Chinese will always place their ancestral country as a higher priority.
@Thuzar as a Chinese who grew up in the West, I completely disagree with what you said. in China, the government is an extension of the family, and is the representative of the Chinese civilization.
I kinda cried watching this video. The positivity towards Indians here is so overwhelming... Thankyou so much everyone! Also I never say this coz people label me as anti national, but I seriously love Chinese people. They are hardworking. Few decades ago,China and India were just the same...but China has progressed a lot...we must seek inspiration from you !
From one Indian to another there's nothing wrong with loving Chinese people but one must remember that your country is on the edge of total war with china. When the time comes we will have to destroy all CCP communist structures
That is because you're ignorant, India didn't invaded China in 1962 but China did. I agree that people of China might not have ill intent for Indian people and Vice versa. But you can't say the same for Chinese govt. China as a policy cultivated relationship with Pakistan since 1950's and supplied it with nuclear technology just to keep India busy with Pakistan. China also sponsored maoist in India and created a corridor throughout eastern India and also let's not forget strings of pearl's policy of the Chinese government and salami slicing of border areas in India. Inshort Chinese govt don't operate in good faith towards India and India reciprocates in kind to the best of it's abilities. So don't ever think the rise of China will be good for India. I also appreciate and am in awe of Chinese culture and can relate more with their societal quirks than of western societies. But all that should not make you an ostrich and be ignorant to dangers posed from Chinese Govt. Chinese people's attitudes towards India doesn't matter as it is not a democracy. Ultimately it is the Chinese government attitudes towards India it matters.
You are right. It's language and socialization. A lot of isolation of cultures is due to ego. Groups that move to other countries, but believe their way is better tend to not mix with the culture they live within. There are tons of other reasons, but this one is worth thinking about and easy to shift.
indians are secular in nature, mentality, preaching, teaching and practice, tolerance of other religions, respect for other religions, hinduism is sanatana dharma, vasudaiva kutumbum meaning the world is one family. Hindus are seekers not believers
@Peter Parker You will get Nobel price if you are able to collect one clear evidence to prove Modi intolerant. In India intolerant liberals till date not able to !!
@Peter ParkerWhy are you bringing in Modi into this discussio. Modi is most admired politician among Indian Americans. Dont underestimate a person. Probably you are not aware fhat Modi was Tea seller before becoming 3 times consecutive CM of Gujarat and later became PM of India for the second time. Now he is condidered as most successful states man in the world.
My friend who has been living in China doing business since 22 years is all praise for Chinese Citizens.. say the locals are very kind and welcoming and overall love and respect Indians. So that was very heartening to hear.
We have just come to know from indisn utubers living in China,how nice the Chinese people are. We would love to visit China and even work there. Such emotional people, very sharing
Comparing and analyzing facts is the only way to arrive at more truth: Top 8 US household income: Indian $135k, Taiwanese 102, Australian 100, South African 90, Filipino 89, Austrian 86, Chinese 81, Japanese 80. (median 63k; #71 American American 58k.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income#By_detailed_ancestry Only 3 are natively poor at English: Japan, Taiwan (both US allies), China. Of remaining 5, India is least developed, and most likely to pursue STEM fields. Only US-China relations aren’t so close: US is historically “anti-communist”; many Americans falsely believe China still “communist” (which CPC abandoned after Mao death 1976). Only China is rivalling US economy/tech, thus US trade war against China, Jan 2018 … same as US trade war 1980s against “ally” Japan, stagnating their #2 economy for +25 years (wiki: Plaza Accord 1985).
India got liberated in 1991, so it was too young to do anything. But it will happen in the next 10 years. Already we are seeing india catching up in service based industries within India itself with companies like swiggy, ola etc. Soon entrepreneurs will start thinking globally.
@Cric Tube Nah. I wouldn't have said in 2010. The business culture wasn't there yet. 2010 entrepreneur weren't ambitious yet, and foreign funding was low. And foreign funding wasn't going towards hyper growth startups, it was going towards boring tech companies, and financial instruments. Past 5 years, India's entrepreneur started getting a lot more ambitious, and have been succeeding. Today's hyper growth startups, will help create products/services that will allow small unorganised businesses hire more, expand and scale faster. Including in agriculture.
@Cric Tube The biggest indication is higher availability of easy cash, using paytm. Soon Paytm (and similar companies) will start lending larger loans, and will make it easier for more Indians to access credit. What that means on a larger scale, is small businesses have access to customers who are able to pay, and that will lead to expansion, job creation, more customers due to those jobs, and so on... It won't be that smooth of a sailing obviously, but as a person who is extremely interested in economics, I see signs that indicate beginning of hyper growth. The funniest part will be, most people won't realise, until after 5 years when they look back and realise the massive personal and economic growth that occurred. As it will not be obvious, just a slow process of people getting wealthier
The Chinese are on the right track pursuing Entrepreneurship model of career as opposed to the Employment model. That is why China has its own big tech and India is playing catchup. Employment career model is great for learning and raising capital but you can only get rich through entrepreneurship.
Loved watching this Video Wish you the very best in Life Chinese in general are humble polite and down to earth people Love and Respect from an Ordinary Indian 🇮🇳🇨🇳
many Chinese elites (educated overseas) went back to China for opportunities; almost all Indian elites are leaving India or staying at foreign countries.
@Ao jun are u ignorant or a just another left liberal who hates BJP? China don't have choice. They have communist government. Plus in india, Past 2014 it was congress since independence. BJP uses Religion as one of the tool to Gain majority and Congress is appeasing Muslim ever since before independence lol. BJP has considerably developed infrastructure since they came in power. BJP is too fking liberal as well aside when there are elections.
I'm A West Indian, My Best Friend Is A Chinese, He Speaks Hindi Betters Than Some Indians! His Wife Sings Hindi Songs Like Lata Mageshkar! And Me Enjoying The Friendship! & Hospitality 😁 Ne Hama And Woh Eini Is My Favorite Chinese Words! 😎
Our government and media against China not out of propaganda but because they have to be. You can't be all friendly when your soldiers - who are civilians - are beaten to death due to CCP's aggression. But that doesn't mean we hate on people obviously, nor does it mean we don't defend ourselves or talk about the border aggressions.
We are not against all chinese. We are not against China. We don't hate chinese govt or leaders. We don't agree with Chinese govt on some issues. We don't trust chinese govt. We consider Chinese people have no political freedom. But its their system. Indians love all people. We have our China towns. Lots of chinese live in india
Either way Asians are the most successful race in America. Imagine if India, China, Japan, Pakistan etc. all could get along or cooperated more like Europe does. Asia would be unstoppable. 🇮🇳 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇯🇵
Most of the indians are inspired by the chinese people among them me too i.e. their dedication towards thier work and time management. Btw i love ur videos man
Forget USA, China is the next big place in terms of innovation and India will soon follow in the next decade. The golden age of Asia and East has returned.
'China in terms of innovation and India will soon follow in the next decade' But.... *Corona has entered the chat* And the chinese soldiers who killed 20 Indian soldiers too?
Unbiased Opinion: I’m Indian. Patriotic to the core. Indians make great Managers. Chinese make great Entrepreneurs. The number of Apps banned by India, developed by China stands testimony to this fact. I love China, but hate the CCP. A democratic China can be a great friend of India. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
The huge number of apps etc from china are also a result of solid govt backing and subsidies which are not so easily possible in a democratic poor country like India. But I hope things change for India in coming time.
@@pustakgagin2826 Democracy with the world’s 3rd largest economy and giving a bloody nose to China at the borders. We didn’t have to kill our own people to reach where we are. Remember the Great Leap Forward and Tiananmen Square.
In words of Kishore Mahbubani himself: "A democratic China would elect a nationalist leader". So, you should be careful what you wish for, especially with all the border issues you have, you don't want nationalist to gain power in China. Taiwan was ruled by Chinese nationalists that left the mainland and it ruled under martial law for over 40 years.
@@antoniorsoftware Nationalistic is acceptable. They will not be a threat for India. Land Grabbing and Debt Trapping is the biggest headache with China. In a Democracy, China will have to integrate with the world economy in a positive way.
But when it comes to naming the babies, chinese parents choose Western first name like Alexander wang lee, jessica chen, while the Indian origin people living in the US over decades now still name their children the traditional ones over the western names
I have huge respect for Chinese but got this feedback from a European executive once. You can have a conversation with a junior executive from India, they are open to new ideas and express themselves. You simply can not have an interesting conversation at or about work with an Asian junior exec. I found that very surprising and its not the language. Its the culture of extreme respect for authority.
it's Americans and Europeans, they love classification.. Also, Asia is huge, from middle East to Japan, it needs sub category.. "Asians" means South East Asians..
@Archana Achu Yep, technically speaking that is how it should be but when I say generally it's used to refer to the Chinese and East Asian communities I mean people across the world apart from us Indians of course tend to associate Asian with Chinese and East Asian countries. Most of them seem to refer to the Indian subcontinent with Southeast Asian.
Very well-spoken. Everything you said from 3:20 to 4:03 is very true, and I especially saw that when I was in college. Indian international students already have pretty good English, but I think their outgoing behavior helps them definitely improve their communication skills. This eventually comes true in the workplace too, where it's not just about being able to code but also about being likeable. I used to work at a well-known company in WA and now work at a well-known company in CA, and this is something that is still true. I have relatives who came to the US from China in the 80's. They said they did the same thing when they were in college, only hanging out with other Chinese international students, and they notice it still happening today. It's great for growing a community, but it might not be good for personal growth and development.
X Thanks for the input. I heard that every year Chinese consist of the majority of Amazon’s pip. After hearing what you said, I think this might be true.
We Indians must learn from Chinese that it doesn't matter from where you are completing your education at last you must someday should serve your motherland
Lots of diverse opinions, so let me throw in one that I don't see expressed by anyone, not even by Yusen Zhang (the maker of this video): The Chinese government was clear about its reasons for sending its students here: to pick up new knowledge that they would then apply to problems in China. That means that the *expectation* was that they would go back to China. There was no such centrally driven government effort by India. Indians coming here are a result of their own *individual* efforts and desires. And the results are there to see, China has grown its economy due to its differing approach in a way that India failed to. Thus Chinese *have* something to go back to, so they do. Indians *don't* have something better to go back to, so they stay here. Coupled with the additional factors like being more comfortable with English, etc, that means they integrate better here than the Chinese do. Therefore they succeed here in a way that the Chinese don't. (Full disclosure: I am one of those Indians that I speak about)
Great analysis, we both respect our elders ..education and Tradition. I am and indian and never thought of competition with my chinese brothers .. we were in it together as fellow asians.
Nice and beautiful video you really make your point perfectly all that you said or the analysis you gave is great 👍 bro, both Indians and Chinese are very smart.
Yusen, I liked the fact that you used the name "Abhijit" as an example. Many people who are not Indian will not make the effort to learn Indian people's names. To see you mention Abhijit as an example already tells me you are a person who is respectful of other cultures. Learning someone's name is the first sign of respect. I appreciate very much you mentioning "Abhijit" as an example.
True...one reason is Indians respect all cultures and languages, for us language is not barrier it's bonding .....there are Indians in every part of world even in China and they learn the home languages to comfort others .... And respect our own mother language as well
Not to forget ...most of software company has got Chinese Boss ...they can train their own people too .........but people from China prefer to live in their own land I believe
That's a fascinating point! Albert Einstein himself acknowledged the significance of the Hindu zero and the decimal system in his work. He once said: "How much has been accomplished in mathematics, astronomy, and philosophy in India, and how much has been done in the grandeur of architecture and in the art of sculpture! How much has been done in the search for knowledge and in the conquest of the unknown! And yet, we in the West have only a very vague idea of this wonderful country." He also recognized the importance of the Hindu zero, stating: "The introduction of the zero is of inestimable importance. It is a mark of the highest intelligence, and it has had a profound influence on the development of mathematics and science." In essence, Einstein acknowledged that the Hindu zero and the decimal system were crucial to his own work and the development of modern science and mathematics. He recognized that the concept of zero, which originated in ancient India, was a fundamental aspect of human thought and culture, and that it had far-reaching implications for our understanding of the universe and our place in it. Without the Hindu zero, many of Einstein's groundbreaking discoveries, such as his theory of relativity and the famous equation E=mc², might not have been possible. The Hindu zero and decimal system provided a foundation for mathematical and scientific inquiry that Einstein built upon, and his work continues to shape our understanding of the universe today.
Leaning to English can also mean not embracing your own language.we respect how Chinese ,Japanese ,Korean have preserved their culture and language while coming out as developed nation.
@@nihaomrzhang Yes. Our languages are dying at the cost of anglosizing. It may be beneficial in a short run. But a strong nation has to protect its culture and identity if it wants to matter. Getting mastery over English is not a big deal. I myself have done my primary education in my mother tongue. But I can communicate fluently in English as well. But in India, it has become an obsession to put your kids in English medium schools from early childhood. As a result, they cannot even read in their own language. China has chosen the tougher path. Maybe you guys need to focus more on English through the college. But at least you have chosen to respect and preserve your own language.
No China is not a developed nation you can see there is millions of Poor's live in China if you visit China you will see reality .Chinese are not no open minded they prefer to live in their own shell or well . We Indians also love our Hindu culture .you know hinduis is the oldest majority living religion on earth still it's increasing Hinduism at least 7 to 5 thousands years old
Kumar You are 100% correct sir, India being a free democratic country, the world sees everything. As for China, an autocratic and communist country the world only sees what they want us to see. Most of the truth is hidden. they gave the world the Wuhan virus to move attention away from them. One of these days that will come back to bite them.
@@vibhavdeshpande8196 Same. English as a language is good for science and technology or for material things but not for social aspects since it's a very divisive language. It is much better to build the base in your mother tongue and rooted in Indian civilizational heritage/culture so you can recognize the toxic concepts or ideas later on since our cultural philosophies don't believe in exclusivity the language also promotes that by not having toxic labels. We don't have the construct of religion in our languages for example which is a new and western concept. So spiritual and pluralistic view is natural, especially when you know the history. It is also very easy to switch to English afterwards. I did it in international school during high school without much help from school - first two years were grilling since I didn't understand the language so all subjects suffered and I worked my ass off but became good within 2 years, and extremely fluent afterwards. But that is while my school structure was Cambridge board which presumed everyone is on the same level of English and I had almost no working knowledge of the language beforehand. That is not the condition today and you can learn the basics of the language as a subject in primary schooling before switching the medium later on and there would be almost no issue. It would not only preserve the diversity of languages but also thoughts since there are many terms/words which are misappropriated by using English terms that don't even have the same concepts in its dictionary. This is how you lose and corrupt knowledge through linguistics over time.
I think in many cases, if you look at the history of Chinese immigration to the US, it was much more historical than India. The Chinese immigrants in the past were treated more like slaves and worked hard. They then remained more introverted as they were discriminated. Indians only went to the US in the 70's and 80's. Nowadays the Chinese community come generally to the West to study, then return to China, as there are incentives for the Chinese to return. Indians move over to a new country and make that their home, and become part of that culture and way of life. The introvert behavior could be because of language, but I do not think so, it is more of a traditional closeness that China retains in a way that wherever you go to trade it is for the country. Indians do not look at the world this way. It is more about self. Yes they love India and want it to succeed ,but our home is where we make it.
Indian govt did two mistakes 1. General category & creams were not considered 2. Company's Mark sheet culture.. My cousin a General category is super brainy in developing codes but 2nd class marks..He is in New Jersey holding high post..How can he return to India..He is just an example
You hit the point. Chinatown was built by slaves laborers during Qing dynasty when Chinese wanted to stay there temporarily and go back home as the end . This little Chinese guy literally have no clue to understand deeply. I bet he haven’t been to rail road museum in sancramento. The only knowledge that he know was Hollywood movies
I think it's India's more diverse culture! China has always been a unified dynasty! Before 1947 India was a geographical term. What Moody is doing now is using Hinduism to unite India as a whole! I think this may be correct, but I hope India will not go towards religious extremism, I wish India a successful development!
@@李飛-q7k The one mistake you state is Modi is uniting Hinduism. He is uniting the country and beleives that religion is important whichever it is, but you should think yourself as Indian first, religion is your personal belief. Hinduism as a culture rather that a religion is unity of humanity rather than a segregation of beleif. It is essentially a way of life and thinking.
Despite indian more fluent in speaking english.. i think american people see the dark color of indian skin virtually have similiarity to black american than yellow chinese.. so this make them more easy to mingle.. and somehow i think white american who 'hegemonize' the job's level seeing chinese/east asian as a threat.
I really like the fact that the people in the comments section are well abled, educated , mature Indians and not those 6th or 7th class students who literally know nothing but show hatred towards another country and show fake patriotism. Nice, I am impressed
@@thanos8948 Ignore him, I am Indian and I agree with you. Some Indians...will say all sorts of thing about China but never admit that China is literally decades ahead of India in development. They are nothing but a small group of loudmouths. Hope one day , India will reach the level of China.
@@samyak4165 first of all , your name includes both Adolf and Stalin, I am already a fan. History fanatic like me?. Bro finally your comment is the most logical and straight up facts. A comment like yours is so difficult to find among these stupid people. Yes, China is decades ahead of India but these studs won't accept that their country is lagging in many aspects . Thanks man. By the way , your name consists of both leaders : one who loved nazism and other who was a communist . two very conflicting ideologies LMAOOO. People like you are difficult to find.
Very well articulated Yusen. I have had Chinese classmates and roommates when I was studying in France. I do find them very polite and well behaved but like you said they always stay within their group which made it difficult to get close with them. But I was fortunate to have an outgoing Chinese roommate and she was absolutely wonderful!
A huge part of talented Chinese go back to China to contribute in booming start ups or Chinese fortune 500 companies. On the other hand Indians chose to stay and work in United States.
@@nihaomrzhang Your are absolutely correct. More and more will return. Most of the Indian commenters on here hate not only themselves but also their brown skin color. They can't wait to become pink!
Asians are naturally talented, whether its Chinese or Indian. Dedication towards work and learning everyday are the two things taught by from a former chinese friend. BTW your voice 👌💜
Very well analyzed.India has an unbroken 200 years of English language learning, that's why Indians do so well. The IIT contribution is massive too.The Chinese are extremely hardworking. They can better with more of English from class one onwards.
@@a1aurobindo Yeah....very brutal!!! Not as bad as the rulers they had before though. Do read your history thoroughly or, speak to one of our many Indian families living here in the UK. I know because my late husband was from India.
You are the first Chinese that ever I seen been very open. Well done 😍 you are doing very good job and would be nice if we all could embrace each other's more.
Most Chinese have the opportunity to go back and build their business in HongKong, Singapore or China. But Indians usually will settle or visit on tourist. I was born and raised in India, married to an Australian. we speak English and Hindi language equally. Also India had Mughal rules and British rule. Religion also play a big role in our lives, , no matter what culture or religion you fall in. You also experience better variety of foods, including vegetarian. I like Perth, people are so relaxed and friendly
These are deeper questions and hard to pin point. I think both communities tend to work hard for success and not stop until the goal is reached. This is the mindset.
Indians since birth as aquired to living in a multi-cultural and multi-lingual Envoirenment so much so that I am absolutely fluent in 3 languages and though Internationally many Indians arent considered English speakers like whole of my family is fluent in English but because of cultural identities prevention we call English our 3rd language while having a strong hold on it so not getting internationally recognised as a English speaker
@@shashankmijar2694 and Indians loosing job in US too Don't worry... I'm an IITian... And many of IITians these days are opening new companies... Doing startups... So future will be ours... By 2050 only India will be first
1) H1 Indians are cream of India and their wives work also. 2) English is their second language 3) Indians are extremely hardworking 4) education is top priority
From the perspective of a South Asian (non-Indian) British guy who studied engineering, then did a materials physics PhD: I don't have any statistics, I'm sure someone somewhere did a study on this. But working around 5 universities, 4 in the UK and 1 in Singapore, Asians, weather they are Indians or Chinese, are over-represented in STEM subjects. This is particularly true on a masters/doctoral level. There are more Penguins in Sudan than English engineering PhD students. It's a bit more mixed when it comes to life sciences. On the other hand, British folks over-represent humanities and liberal arts doctoral degrees. Overwhelmingly so. Why is that important? Because STEM degrees are much more valuable, with a higher earning potential. Being better at maths improves your earning potential drastically. And I would attribute this from culture. Western children are bought up much more, for better or worse, liberally. Asian parents emphasize mathematics and the sciences particularly hard. In my culture, mathematics is above all, followed by physics and applied sciences. Because mastering an aptitude for mathematics can set you up very well in life. I think the US situation is a bit different. Unlike Europeans, Americans have a slightly higher respect for STEM subjects, and they still produce a respectable number of (local) stem graduates. We have very high rates of STEM graduations in the UK. But that's a huge part due to huge numbers of international fees paying Asian Students. On the theme of your talk, I think one advantage Indians may have in the North American context, is the mastery of English. Educated Indians speak English very well. Far better than your average American or British. But what's more important, they can WRITE even better.
Great 👌 video dude.. watching from India... Everything has its positive and negative impacts.. When you see successful Indians in USA, just understand, they are contributing to mostly American GDP, not Indian... But again, it's their own choice, they are free. Best thing is Indian-Americans are helping India to rebuild its image.... And finally, English is not a choice for us it's a necessity... We have 22 official languages. So you can understand, we need a common language. Plus, BRITs were here for 200yrs...
Brits were only in Hong Kong for 100 years and it already changed the culture there. I can’t imagine how much impact of a 200 year colonization would do to India....
1st video of any Chinese person expressing his views i have ever watched.. You should talk more on such type of issues or communication hurdles.. And how can we grow together and faster with mutual understanding.. I love to get your opinion.. There is lack of Chinese prospective on many issues from the people of China in the social media..
You touched on many solid points, but I also think part of the reason why Chinese Americans are not as successful as other immigrant groups is because Chinese Americans had a pretty rough history in the US. Many of the Chinatowns in the US are kind of ghetto, such as the ones in LA, SF and NY. The Chinese in America were a historically oppressed group. Chinese immigrants lived in the US as early as the 19th Century and they worked under abusive labor conditions during the construction of the Central Pacific Railroad and California Gold Rush. Many early Chinese immigrants have also suffered from discrimination because of the "yellow peril" rhetoric being very prevalent during that time. It could very well be possible that the bad experiences of the earliest Chinese migrants left behind a bad legacy that further discouraged future Chinese immigrants from assimilating into the broader American culture. There are also many Chinese gangs in the US such as the Black Dragons, Flying Dragons, Wah Ching, Ghost Shadows and so on, but I haven't heard of any notorious Indian gangs in the US. The Chinese gangs in the US were known for being one of the most dangerous gangs in the country. China Mac is a famous Chinese American rapper who lived a tough life on the streets of Chinatown and he was a gang member. However, Chinese Americans are still doing relatively very well in the US compared to other immigrant groups when you consider the dark history of Chinese migrants settling in the US. It's just that I think their rough start in the US might have slightly held them back. I couldn't find that much information about the early history of Indians migrating to America, but I heard that the Chinese migrants outnumbered the Indian migrants during the 19th Century.
It also has to do with the fact that China is growing much faster than India and most Chinese students go home, while Indians would stay in the US and integrate. Also the relative isolation that exists between China and the rest of the world due to the Great Firewall means that there is simply more space to go to China and build something there and enjoy the protection.
They learn from america a free democratic country and invest in autocratic communist which cant crticise CCP .we Indians are far more better at least we live free India or America democratic society .also many Indians Americans also invest india and it will increase in future .
You are a very smart young man and open minded. Interesting points. You can be an ambassador for young Oriental people stateside ...Encourage them, share your experience, train them...It's not just about Indians in the US, but able to adapt anywhere on this rock..Which we all share & should make it one big family.
As I am Indian I respect Chinese people. We are hardworking people & oldest civilization in the world. Hope one day will we will solve our differences & grow together.
Prince _M Impossible till they burn statues of Mao and in revolution kill all members of CCP. They have to atone blood f their confu-Budhist ancestor. A foreign Marxist philosophy!
We need learning more from Chinese and Indian, all stuff ,i mean by that succesfully asian races in the works place. Indonesian Just Like Chinese and Indian Mixed ya know.
Good analysis. The final point is quite relevant. Smart Chinese people go back to China and set up their businesses there. Smart Indians stay in the west and contribute to western companies. I don't think this is due to patriotism or whatever - people go where they think they have the best opportunity. We must also keep in mind that Western software companies have large operations and development offices in India (but not in China), thus contributing to the Indian economy.
Actually Indians speaking good English is simply because of our educational structure where we are taught all subjects in English right from our Junior school level. (bcz obviosly we have so many languages nd we need one common one to communicate).
Love the way China makes it tourist friendly and professional for visitors during exhibition's despite language barriers. End of day humanity should be the winner.
American born Indian here. I think it is time that software companies work to solve this problem. I am sad to hear bright Chinese minds want to return to home much more than their Indian counterparts. All the best to you regardless!
As an Indian who went to the US but left because i didn't like the visa lottery system, I worked with 2 smart Chinese engineers. One was a senior and he pushed me hard. I don't think Chinese engineers are any worse than us or any less skilled. Yes their english isn't that good but it's good enough to succeed. However, do remember a lot of smart Indian engineers go to the US. I think in China a lot of smart engineers stay back and build some sort of company (yes they copycat a lot but i think a lot more do build stuff in china than the case in india) - maybe it's because china has a 20 year headstart and a better domestic economy. That being said, indian americans are one of the greatest migrant communities in the world anywhere and kind of elite if you look at their education levels and background, so it's not right to compare against them. Chinese americans are as successful as any other asian community like the vietnamese or phillipino americans.
That only works because Chinese government doesn't allow outside companies to operate in china and if you do operate then you have to share your data with Chinese government which can be used by Chinese government to track their citizens.
How do you measure success? If it means being a departmental head of being in charge...then the Indians would be more suitable. Indians are more outgoing and they like drinking or spending Friday nights with the boys. Chinese are more reserved and are not so keen on nights out cos they probably have better things to do. .
Hello all, I am a white neanderthal male who can only aspire to conceptualize and understand life at the level of genetic brilliance of East Asian and Indian backgrounds, who have a much higher IQ on average. I would like to develop my brain using supplements which help BDNF (brain dynamic neural growth factor) as well as studying hard on brain training programs, math, music, vocabulary practice, and programming on a daily basis. Also with training using a mixture of martial arts styles, yoga, and calisthenics. I will take the supplements which enhance BDNF and then do hand stands or other yoga positions to encourage blood flow to the brain, while meditating over a math problem or coding problem such as Leetcode. I hope to complete my IQ test at 145 some day such as a talented Asian man, but am currently somewhere around 110-120 as of last test. I was tested at 138 as a child, but have had horrible brain fog (ब्रेन फ़ॉग or 뇌 안개 or 脑雾) all my life which I am still overcoming. I am hopeful and believe it is still possible. I would like to become either a programmer or something related to technology. All top engineers and programmers in my university class were Indian or Asian (despite being in the US) and understand all the complex things very well (not many white men in those top level classes, but maybe a few).
Brother you have said the right thing, I also used to think so that language is the barrier for Chinese people... Respect to Chinese people from India 🇮🇳🙏
Of all the communities I met in college and beyond, I found the Chinese to be the most objective when talking about any subject. You are no exception. Thanks for the interesting analysis.
I worked with chinese, they think indians are smarter and Indian thinks chinese are smarter.
Both of them have their share of success stories.
We both are the oldest civilizations. We both deserve respect from each other :)
Chinese are very diligent about their work. Indians are more flexible and more inclined to intermingle with other cultures
Koreans are the real smart ones. Korea and India friendship forever
Agreed. I feel like the Chinese are way smarter and I am Indian American
@@Earthling108 Definition of smartness is relative.
But sure this humbleness is appreciated
Good side is China grew faster because more of Chinese students return home and pursue their own path bringing prosperity to their mother land.
Yup
Yeah, China making huiwei India apple dreams
True
nah more just one uniform government that is always stable because the leadership never changes plus they have full control over the country’s finances and can do as they please therefor they can use the power of their state to boss and improve areas quickly whereas western countries and other democratic governments like india they have a system where the government cannot move and make changes as fast as an authoritarian government can
China also grew faster because most students HAVE to return home.
Many students file a condition with the govt that after a time abroad they must come back home, else the govt would take their family's lands.
Plus, taking your research back home to give to the Chinese Govt is a lucrative way to make a life in China.
Not to mention, Chinese govt has their own less than ideal methods of promoting growth at the cost of kicking entire villagers out of their homes, demolishing the buildings and giving them to construction companies where the same villagers will now be forced to pay rent to live in.
*A few people or country outside of India understand India, because India has -*
*1) Europe's diversity* *2) China's scale* *3) US's drive and ambition* *4) Africa's hope*
*India has so many things at once, which is why you need to be in India to truly appreciate it.*
A lot of potential, but with no effective caring leadership. It's like walking into a pile of garbage lying on your desk. You can't achieve anything without standards and quality sister. Something most asians in general know little about.. just take one look at their cities and towns.
Ah, very well explained. Probably Swami Vivekananda knew this ,when he said over 100yrs ago that the 21st century will be India's.
And surplus everywhere.
And passion towards religion like Pakistan and Afghanistan.
Stephanie, are you in India? Bangalore maybe? We should hang out !!!
You said “ Indian brothers and sisters “ , you have touched my heart brother! Love from India!
Yup
Ok boomer
@@Dinky-zv4hc what do you mean by boomer?
But how are they brothers?
@@azzking9305 chill guys, I just wanted to show some support to him.
Reasons:
1. Language - Indians are far more proficient in the English language than the Chinese are.
2. Entrepreneurship - higher percentage of Chinese choosing entrepreneurship soon after graduation than being employees
3. Home country appeal - better opportunities beckoning in China.
4. American establishment preference for Indians over Chinese - there’s geopolitical baggage.
Conclusion: It is what it is but I wouldn’t worry about it. It doesn’t mean that one group is doing better than the other but rather that one group is more visible in America than the other.
you make good points 👍
Chinese are more successful just that successful Chinese leave for china and never come back. Meanwhile, Indians don't have this option.
@@AS-ug2vq I can't disagree with you. But success is not the same for any two individuals given that everyone is in a different station in life. The fairer assertion is that they're all successful in their different ways.
I think chinese people are business minded.rathar choosing to be an employee.
@@AS-ug2vq No. This is related to history and culture.
1. India is multi-ethnic and multi-religious - meaning we are ready to adopt and co-operate (forget 1947 separation for a moment)
2. China was always secluded from the rest of the World. India was always an immigration hub of British and other Europeans, Arabs, Persians, Turks, Tibetan, Afghans, etc. Our languages have heavy foreign influence - which shows we were always integrated to the rest of the world.
I am Chinese born and raised in America, i have great respect for the Indian people. I am in contact with a lot of indian immigrants and i see my parents in them
We Indians decorate others house and forget ours
Because everyone prefers Developed environment. Everyone has their reasons.
@@yubi-kun958 yeah but if we work hard today we'll surly get better results tomorrow
@@GTXBOY1650 I've asked multiple Indians in the US this question and the answer I always get is the reservation system in India based on caste is the reason they leave
@@lancehenderson9844 oh yeah ...caste system is burning it ...they want us not to do caste discrimination and highlight caste everywhere in form of reservation...
@@lancehenderson9844 what a big joke, once they graduate caste system doesn't stop them from starting companies in India.
Indian's grow up in a multilingual & multicultural environment. This not only makes them mentally sharp but also respects & accept new culture/people easily. Indian's considers the impact on the surroundings due to their actions. The world accepts Indians because of the Democracy at the homeland.
True!!
@Studies Only
You advocate painting all the multi colored flowers that bloom in India's culural garden with one paint? Not doable,my friend..It's way,way beyond the capability of any person to do it.You know why? Each person passionately believes in, supports,practices and loves his own litle sub-culture.
@youtube sold out to CCP what ever you may call buddy, In India every culture thrives dating back centuries and there is minimal culture death. Also here people and emotions are valued more than things which is the the base for success. Progress might be slow!
@UA-cam sold out to CCP well obviously if you keep seeing your filth-ridden western media you will often get a wrong impression. India has a lot of problems but has come a long way and is tackling its problems yet you people from the west only know how to be racist.
@UA-cam sold out to CCP well you don't even have a real name. Spineless stupid. First have an identity for yourself idiot and then bark
I have worked in Silicon Valley for decades as an American. I have Indian and Chinese friends in the tech industry. One thing that I have observed is that Indians are more interested in management roles. Chinese are more interested in being the model employee. Indians also have a head start on the language - English. So it's easier for the educated ones to adopt quickly.
I was very happy when he said "Our Indian brothers and sisters......"
Yes, we all are brothers and sisters.
As an Indian, I appreciate what Chinese people have done for their country in almost every field through immense hard-work and contribution eventually making it a superpower. RESPECT. 🙏. PEACE. ✌️
Okay china is a superpower 🤣🤣🤣
It's an assumed power
The list includes
BRICS NATION
DON'T REMAIN IN A LITTLE MISCONSEPTION
WE ARE (BRICS)
LIGHT YEARS BEHIND USA
China is not a superpower . USA is sole superpower. China is potential superpower
The Chinese are on the right track pursuing Entrepreneurship model of career as opposed to the Employment model.
That is why China has its own big tech and India is playing catchup.
Employment career model is great for learning and raising capital but you can only get rich and make impact through entrepreneurship.
@@pradipchaterjee9576 The only thing China is behind the usa is in semi conductor technology, China has already surpassed the u.s in other key technologies in the world including communications and far surpasses the u.s in terms of infrastructure or any other country in the world. Their manufacturing strength is unmatched and alone accounts for 30% of global manufacturing output. They have the largest and most advanced high speed rail network in the world, the u.s has zero kilometres of high speed rail. They've already won the space race and even the tech race. According to the Aspi China leads in 37 out of 44 Key technologies of the future. All they need to do now is to develop their chip technology and they would be way ahead of the u.s. The only thing the u.s is truly ahead of China would be military equipment ig but it really isn't a surprise given how the u.s spends more than 10x the amount China does because of their imperialistic and war mongering tendencies. India truly is a lot behind the u.s but China isn't. You nust have hear about de-dollarisation at this point and how Saudi Arabia because of whom the petrodollar deal exists has sided with Brics the reserve currency status of the u.s dollar would soon fall and the u.s will fall into a catastrophic pit of debt accumulated due to all the inhumane, imperialistic and war mongering deeds it has commited just to maintain it's hegemony.
Bhrahjmin quota people 😭😭..
I am an Indian but I would like to thank you for this thoughtful and compassionate look at the modern Chinese experience in America. I respect the brilliance and hard work that so many Chinese students have and I hope they achieve the good lives they deserve.
Thank you so much for your kind words Anugraha!
@@nihaomrzhang 🇮🇳😡😠🇨🇳🇮🇳❤️🇺🇸 now in America india people are living they are again coming to india
@@nihaomrzhang it is just a myth that indians are more successful than Chinese in USA ,CANADA .... Completely false...many well known US companies were founded by Chinese...CHINESE AMERICAN HAVE ACHIEVED MORE THAN INDIAN AMERICAN. EVEN IN SPORTS FROM MICHAEL CHANG'S GRAND SLAM VICTORY TO NATHAN CHEN'S FIGURE SKATING GOLD ...THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLE THAT CHINESE DID...EVEN PHILIPPINO, JAPANESE, KOREAN AMERICANS ARE FAR SUPERIOR TO INDIAN AMERICAN Although indian communities are rich , they haven't achieved that much
@@nihaomrzhang What about Arabic immigrants toward Indian and Chinese ?
They are very contested in Europe. Another day , another drama against them.
Well spoken and always appreciate the people who identify their issues instead of ignoring them.
Thank you so much!
kipl
Proud to be indian
But the whole reason though is that indian work a looooooooooooot more then chineese
Why? Cause they experienced what its like true poverty. Having to work everydays in bad conditions and still dont have much money
While the young generation asian from usa china south korea japan are more spoiled then anything. Since their parents are rich. They didnt experience true misery
If you have experienced misery you can have that will to work very hard
I think he is being hard on his Chinese compatriots. They have developed China in a way that Indians have not. Hopefully now attitudes are changing for the betterment of India. Also Indians grow up with speaking English or at the very least, they know the language exists somewhere. This is not the case for Chinese. Finally, I think Indians have a different attitude that make them better or far more superior managers. They understand people and try to do a give and take. An indian employer may keep a space for you in his company if you want to go and look after your family for a year or more. The understanding is that you don't get paid. But if you come back and the company is still doing well and we have a space, we will take you. The chinese or white employer do not handle people in this diplomatic way. so offcourse they will be less popular as head of any organisation! In short, Indians manage to keep their humanity but the others deny it! And everybody else including themselves suffer!
The Indians I know in the US that are very successful really work as a family team. My neighbors own six 7-Eleven stores, and 3 or 4 almond farms, but they have lots of family members throughout the area doing this almost like a corporation.
Ask you neighbour any job vaccine got 🙌
And motels as well.
They might be Patels from Africa.
this is called HINDU-UNDIVIDED-FAMILY in constitution of india
They are the remnants of old traditional business families. They are slowly petering out to partition and individual businesses.
I am an Indian in US and I have worked with several Chinese nationals in the past and continue to work with them now. I have always felt that my Chinese colleagues were more detail oriented, very hard working, never took short cuts and were always very humble in their approach towards others. The only thing that kept them from growing faster was their communication. If they overcome this problem they will be equally or may be even more successful than Indians in US.
Yes you’re right. Communication is the biggest issue for Chinese in the US
Bhrahjmin quota people 😭😭
Can’t agree more.
@San TV, my God you have hit the nail on the head and it is communication. Having said that the Chinese are still a very capable people.
@@Q_QQ_Q stop it with your jihad against Bhrajmins
We indians born with the fact that you will meet new people and culture every now or then.. I think india's diversity with religion, people, languages, traditions and race helps a lot for us to get mingle with others.. (And we are very friendly too😅).
Indian people are one of the friendliest people in the world!!
✌️😎✌️
True
Our English is better then Chinese this is the biggest factor nothing don't feel special dear
@Peter Parker PS: That's a common saying in Singapore, too. But Malaysia and Singapore were once a single nation till they split in 1965.
Both Indians and Chinese are succesful in their own ways
Talent is everywhere.
INDIANS go outside and develop other countries just for sake of some dollars...
Chinese stays in their home and develop their own country.
Thats why world use "Made in China products"
saying that as an Indian :(
@Yomangamer Right bro. The main problem is reservation. I think that government should develop the government schools and provide quality education and quality teachers for free and then remove the reservation. Then it will have equal opportunity for all as they will also get quality education.
@Yomangamer I think that no leader has dare to remove reservation as they can lose next elections. If I can become a leader I will remove this like whoa
@Yomangamer We middle income persons suffer a lot due to reservation. I am also preparing for IIT and even here is reservation 😭😭😂😂. We must have to unite and force the government to remove reservation or we have to make a political party ourselves (which is almost impossible)
@Yomangamer Thanks bro for good wishes 😘
Great topic to discuss. My personal view here in the hope it will help someone.
The reasons I agree:
1. English proficiency
2. Able to relate to American culture and create relationships.
Reasons you missed:
1. Confidence. Many Chinese candidates I work with are reserved, afraid to speak their minds even when they are right. When they do speak out, they double guess.
Reasons I don't know:
1. Indians also have the habit of hanging out with only Indians (if they have a choice (i.e larger companies with more Indians) , they will only hangout with the folks from their Indian state)
So I am not so sure about Indian university students 'buddy up' better than Chinese. My knowledge of American culture and ability to relate comes just from exposure to American TV SHOWS, movies and other media.
For curious people:
My wife (from mainland China) and I (India) discussed this at length. I have been in leadership roles in the USA for many years and interviewed and hired many people). I have also lived in Singapore and other parts of Asia for number of years.
Thank you so much for your input! Yes I do agree Chinese need to learn from Indian regarding their confidence
India wants her indians back 😂
It's true Indian must develop India not usa
So trueee
@Peter Parker dont u overthink sir..
India has the toughest exams ....
We all students try our best ,study with our whole mights to clear the entrance
Exams so that we can be admitted to best colleges and reach our goals.......
And do u think these much of hardship is to get white spouse then u r truly mistaken please correct ur thoughts🙏
@Peter Parker have u read the title sir..its all about why most Indians are successful...and uploader clarifies it in whole video obviously these indicates the brain not beauty. And if u are firm on your reply then just upload your video with the survey and analysis done over it I would like to see that..
I would not have denied u sir, becoz I
am the person respecting others thoughts bt I have read ur comments and reply in other section also where
I can understand that u have no point and just criticizing Indians....
I will not ask ur nationality because the problem is with ur mindset not nation.....bt I would like to ask u....
If the other animals in jungle have competed with us human being in brains and technology race so whom would u have supported???🙏
I don't want those indians back . In next few decades US ruled by those indians in most of the imp field like IT , politics.
The main reason is due to the diversity in india they never need any adjusting in any other country...thus they adapt quickly and learn languages quickly and just make it their comfort zone and thus progress.
@@aalhadbapat3489 not everything other than India mostly developed country
@@aalhadbapat3489 oh man oh don't generalize anything many places in Africa are really good and so are many good places in India . India now is lower middle economy and in 2 year's it will be higher middle income country if all goes well,
And another thing is quality of life is not always depends on money (if you ever have time visit Himachal ) what people have to change is mindset.
@@abhishekkaith1686 in two years it's impossible to be higher middle income country bro I read on google it says it will take 20 years to reach $15000 per capita income which is higher right now we are on $7000.
@@aalhadbapat3489 oh bro sorry for type i mean to in between higher and lower middle because india is now in top three in lower middle countries and to reach higher middle it will take 10 years www.worldbank.org/en/country/india/overview#1
Chinese propoganda to target Indian consumers
For most Indians in America, returning to India is not an option, because we don't have cities like Shanghai or Shenzhen, where you can continue to live a first world lifestyle. Indian cities like Mumbai or Bangalore are improving, but are still far behind western cities. Chinese on the other hand don't miss America as much if they move back to advanced Chinese cities.
I see. I haven’t been to India so not sure about the living condition there. But i believe Indian cities will improve very fast in the future!
I don't think they will improve. They are more interested in scamming.
I’m Nigerian so I have limited knowledge on this. However I notice that commonwealth countries (English speaking/anglophone) countries have more political, cultural ties to USA, UK, Canada, Australia etc so India benefits from this. Asians are smart people in GENERAL ✊🏼❤️
You're wrong. Hinduism is fastest growing in moscow and only country Russia most close is to is India.
all peoples are smart, Africans are forefathers of all peoples.
@@manivannanchokkalingam8251 lol 🤣
@Sagar Nimbudkar shut up
@Kraptonite compition is less in india who told you that.
American here. I never thought about the points made by the guy in this video, but he's probably right. I've personally seen Indians work hard at their English speaking skills in various public speaker associations such as Toastmasters. My Indian colleagues join in casual conversations at work just like any other American does. Mark Cuban said that in the near future Liberal Arts majors would be highly valued at tech companies because of their communication skills. Good video
Thank you for your input! very insightful
Good one on the Toastmasters observation. My mother related to me that situation in her club. She said that one indian guy was so nervous speaking that when he finished he looked like a bucket of water had been poured on him. But he never gave quit and improved greatly.
As others have posted, India being part of the anglo-sphere is a head start.
And more round-aboutly, every chinese person that I have known, if not a communist, has the opinion that the Cultural Revolution was an epic moral and spiritual disaster for the Chinese. The Cultural Revolution destroyed the ideal of public trust.
I'm and Indian-Canadian who's friends are mostly all Chinese and I speak Cantonese as most of my friends growing up were from Hong Kong and am learning Mandarin because I love the culture and people and love traveling to China. Ya we Indians are smart and successful undoubtably but our counterpart Chinese friends are also smart, family oriented, have similar values and work hard just like us. Birds of a different feather colour! Xie xie
This could actually be a good thing for China, as highly skilled and educated Chinese students return and build their nation. That may in part explain the difference in GDP and size of the economies.
India on the other hand is losing its top talent to the US.
I believe more Indians will come back in the near future :)
A very good point to think about seriously
Chinese propoganda to target Indian consumers
That's true. Over 90% of Chinese students return to China after graduation to help build the country.
@@shermanpeabody6102 that's half true... Chinese comprise 2nd largest nationality... They they come back cuz they don't get extended visas... So do Indians Like my brother came too .
But, the fact that smart people of Chinese origin are returning to china to make china great is something that deserves appreciation.
They’re using US to learn , implementing their skills for the nation where they were born.
👏🏼 👏🏼
Some of the great developer will stay in USA
Chinese government infuses the love for China from childhood. No Chinese citizen living in US would not speak bad about China or the communist.
You got that right bro.
@@sankalp5710 I actually noticed that as well.
In the opposite side, I worked with a lot of Indians and some of them really hate the current government. One guy even said, I will never go back.
@@ЛуисЛу-ъ4я Yes, people here are very anti-government. Every second day there's some kind of protest and we have to shut down for an entire day. Being anti-government is alright but people are now hating the whole country. People should understand we can't turn our country to Europe overnight .
I wish more Indians return and make their country successful and prosperous.
Me too!
we.. as an indian respect chinese a lot.. who r really hardworking... may we grow together.. forever.. 💗
Thank you!!!
until ccp don't crosses borders and don't claims Indian teritory as their's.
@Yusuf patel people made the government, most of the Indians doesn't like chinese policies so as chinese. And yes India has partners who shakes their hands and raises together, don't mix with you 'car driver' PM.
Chinese propoganda to target Indian consumers
China won't let you grow with them. If you have doubt, get some information about how china dumps products in Indian market anw how they have close internet in their country.
Indians are successful all around the world except in India 😅
I'm not sure what to say to that lol
Are you sure because India has 1. 3 billion people and 1 million Indians are millionaires so I would say read about us more , watch BBC, CNN less and stop being prejudice towards us
@@trishnamonilahkar9294 by the way are you an Indian
@RAKESH KUMAR BARMAN 20GSOB1010198 and u know how much living cost in west?? If india develops fully then only the chances of high salery is expected
@RAKESH KUMAR BARMAN 20GSOB1010198 not only Britishers, but also Italians also
I would say that our background of being raised in tough and competitive environment make us what we are. Indians and Chinese have been competitive from a good time. Our skills combined could do miracles. I had experienced that in past when I did a class assignment with a Chinese classmate and we scored the highest. Keep working guys (India and china) the world needs you.
Answer: Because Chinese in China are more successful than Indians in india.
Indians can be fully integrated into the American society, but most Chinese will always place their ancestral country as a higher priority.
@Thuzar Chinese are very good people... I've met them personally but not their government... It's people doesn't like them but they can't do anything
@Thuzar I'm Indian 😂
Days are coming .. India is generating gaint industries equal to valuation of Nasdaq listed firms in US time is twisting and changing
That is the only thing I like about China as an Indian 🤷 That is what we need to learn from them
@Thuzar as a Chinese who grew up in the West, I completely disagree with what you said. in China, the government is an extension of the family, and is the representative of the Chinese civilization.
I kinda cried watching this video. The positivity towards Indians here is so overwhelming... Thankyou so much everyone! Also I never say this coz people label me as anti national, but I seriously love Chinese people. They are hardworking. Few decades ago,China and India were just the same...but China has progressed a lot...we must seek inspiration from you !
Thanks for the positivity！
From one Indian to another there's nothing wrong with loving Chinese people but one must remember that your country is on the edge of total war with china. When the time comes we will have to destroy all CCP communist structures
@@rowansadasivan403 Perfect picture of the sinophobic war monger who prefers to destroy others than to cooperate and build.
That is because you're ignorant, India didn't invaded China in 1962 but China did. I agree that people of China might not have ill intent for Indian people and Vice versa. But you can't say the same for Chinese govt. China as a policy cultivated relationship with Pakistan since 1950's and supplied it with nuclear technology just to keep India busy with Pakistan. China also sponsored maoist in India and created a corridor throughout eastern India and also let's not forget strings of pearl's policy of the Chinese government and salami slicing of border areas in India. Inshort Chinese govt don't operate in good faith towards India and India reciprocates in kind to the best of it's abilities. So don't ever think the rise of China will be good for India. I also appreciate and am in awe of Chinese culture and can relate more with their societal quirks than of western societies. But all that should not make you an ostrich and be ignorant to dangers posed from Chinese Govt. Chinese people's attitudes towards India doesn't matter as it is not a democracy. Ultimately it is the Chinese government attitudes towards India it matters.
You are right. It's language and socialization. A lot of isolation of cultures is due to ego. Groups that move to other countries, but believe their way is better tend to not mix with the culture they live within. There are tons of other reasons, but this one is worth thinking about and easy to shift.
First time watching a CHINESE UA-camR...
Great analysis bro.....
Hahaha thank you so much!
@@nihaomrzhang 中国人难道不应该在中国成功吗？你是不是看好莱坞大片看多了，都做梦自己是个米国人？中国人的国家是米国？
indians are secular in nature, mentality, preaching, teaching and practice, tolerance of other religions, respect for other religions, hinduism is sanatana dharma, vasudaiva kutumbum meaning the world is one family. Hindus are seekers not believers
Indians are also defined by a mix of people practicing different religions ...
Peter Parker the average educated Indian does not fall into modi’s mind set. Educated average once just want work, home and food and PEACE.
@Peter Parker You will get Nobel price if you are able to collect one clear evidence to prove Modi intolerant. In India intolerant liberals till date not able to !!
@Peter Parker don't teach Indian tolerance look at your own History and your country burning BLM.
@Peter ParkerWhy are you bringing in Modi into this discussio. Modi is most admired politician among Indian Americans. Dont underestimate a person. Probably you are not aware fhat Modi was Tea seller before becoming 3 times consecutive CM of Gujarat and later became PM of India for the second time. Now he is condidered as most successful states man in the world.
My friend who has been living in China doing business since 22 years is all praise for Chinese Citizens.. say the locals are very kind and welcoming and overall love and respect Indians. So that was very heartening to hear.
We have just come to know from indisn utubers living in China,how nice the Chinese people are. We would love to visit China and even work there. Such emotional people, very sharing
Well Chinese earn high too
We must not compare with each other we are all asians
Amen! 🙏❤💛💙💜💚❤
@Rohit Salaria wth
Lmao tell that to ur dictator!
Comparing and analyzing facts is the only way to arrive at more truth:
Top 8 US household income: Indian $135k, Taiwanese 102, Australian 100, South African 90, Filipino 89, Austrian 86, Chinese 81, Japanese 80. (median 63k; #71 American American 58k.) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income#By_detailed_ancestry
Only 3 are natively poor at English: Japan, Taiwan (both US allies), China. Of remaining 5, India is least developed, and most likely to pursue STEM fields.
Only US-China relations aren’t so close: US is historically “anti-communist”; many Americans falsely believe China still “communist” (which CPC abandoned after Mao death 1976). Only China is rivalling US economy/tech, thus US trade war against China, Jan 2018 … same as US trade war 1980s against “ally” Japan, stagnating their #2 economy for +25 years (wiki: Plaza Accord 1985).
This is known as respect bro .hats off to you .
I wish Indians would come back and will create a repository of such companies... It is happening but not in the scale comparable to China
India got liberated in 1991, so it was too young to do anything.
But it will happen in the next 10 years. Already we are seeing india catching up in service based industries within India itself with companies like swiggy, ola etc. Soon entrepreneurs will start thinking globally.
@Cric Tube Nah. I wouldn't have said in 2010. The business culture wasn't there yet.
2010 entrepreneur weren't ambitious yet, and foreign funding was low. And foreign funding wasn't going towards hyper growth startups, it was going towards boring tech companies, and financial instruments.
Past 5 years, India's entrepreneur started getting a lot more ambitious, and have been succeeding.
Today's hyper growth startups, will help create products/services that will allow small unorganised businesses hire more, expand and scale faster. Including in agriculture.
@Cric Tube The biggest indication is higher availability of easy cash, using paytm. Soon Paytm (and similar companies) will start lending larger loans, and will make it easier for more Indians to access credit.
What that means on a larger scale, is small businesses have access to customers who are able to pay, and that will lead to expansion, job creation, more customers due to those jobs, and so on...
It won't be that smooth of a sailing obviously, but as a person who is extremely interested in economics, I see signs that indicate beginning of hyper growth.
The funniest part will be, most people won't realise, until after 5 years when they look back and realise the massive personal and economic growth that occurred. As it will not be obvious, just a slow process of people getting wealthier
The Chinese are on the right track pursuing Entrepreneurship model of career as opposed to the Employment model.
That is why China has its own big tech and India is playing catchup.
Employment career model is great for learning and raising capital but you can only get rich through entrepreneurship.
Loved watching this Video
Wish you the very best in Life
Chinese in general are humble polite and down to earth people
Love and Respect from an Ordinary Indian 🇮🇳🇨🇳
Thank you so much Karan! May peace be with India and China forever
Hanging out and interacting with the American students has another benefit after graduation. Networking.
True!
many Chinese elites (educated overseas) went back to China for opportunities; almost all Indian elites are leaving India or staying at foreign countries.
It will all change in the next four years. Trust me. India is the future, not the west.
This could be the correct and objective assessment
This is what we call famously "brain drain"
@Ao jun are u ignorant or a just another left liberal who hates BJP? China don't have choice. They have communist government. Plus in india, Past 2014 it was congress since independence. BJP uses Religion as one of the tool to Gain majority and Congress is appeasing Muslim ever since before independence lol. BJP has considerably developed infrastructure since they came in power. BJP is too fking liberal as well aside when there are elections.
@@BharatkaEkBeta nope it will take probably a decade
Chinese are more entrepreneurial than Indian seeing from the third world 🌎 point of view. I respect you both Great Nation 👍👏
I'm A West Indian, My Best Friend Is A Chinese, He Speaks Hindi Betters Than Some Indians! His Wife Sings Hindi Songs Like Lata Mageshkar! And Me Enjoying The Friendship! & Hospitality 😁
Ne Hama And Woh Eini Is My Favorite Chinese Words! 😎
Wow I like that love one another
You're from west Indies? Or from thr western part of India?
Lots of love from India. Our government and media must be against each other but I really admire Chinese people. Lots of love from India Yusen !
Our government and media against China not out of propaganda but because they have to be. You can't be all friendly when your soldiers - who are civilians - are beaten to death due to CCP's aggression. But that doesn't mean we hate on people obviously, nor does it mean we don't defend ourselves or talk about the border aggressions.
We are not against all chinese. We are not against China. We don't hate chinese govt or leaders. We don't agree with Chinese govt on some issues. We don't trust chinese govt. We consider Chinese people have no political freedom. But its their system. Indians love all people. We have our China towns. Lots of chinese live in india
Either way Asians are the most successful race in America. Imagine if India, China, Japan, Pakistan etc. all could get along or cooperated more like Europe does. Asia would be unstoppable. 🇮🇳 🇨🇳 🇵🇰 🇯🇵
Most of the indians are inspired by the chinese people among them me too i.e. their dedication towards thier work and time management. Btw i love ur videos man
Thank you, Singh!
Dedication to work...? You guys talks alot in workplace..I dont think South Asian people values and culture are the same like the East Asian people...
Chutiya h kya
Every thing has its own advantage and disadvantage, for India it is disadvantage more because we lost our talented people bro.
Advantage in the long run for sure.
European r everywhere, why Indian only remain in India
But some of the talented people returned and benefited India.....which is a good thing!
@@nihaomrzhang u don't know India has more problems than any other country in world be happy ur chinese
Yes we will
Untill political system changes
@@aalhadbapat3489 Really? Like what exactly?
I hope this doesn’t cause any hate between us. We all want to achieve success 💪🏾
Forget USA, China is the next big place in terms of innovation and India will soon follow in the next decade. The golden age of Asia and East has returned.
Yes, China and India should definitely work together. We're neighbours after all :)
'China in terms of innovation and India will soon follow in the next decade'
But....
*Corona has entered the chat*
And the chinese soldiers who killed 20 Indian soldiers too?
Corona:Let me introduce myself.
@@aurobindosarkar2017 Actually if anything Corona might effect India more severely than it will for China. Hope we can come out of it
RESPECT 🇮🇳
Unbiased Opinion: I’m Indian. Patriotic to the core. Indians make great Managers. Chinese make great Entrepreneurs. The number of Apps banned by India, developed by China stands testimony to this fact. I love China, but hate the CCP. A democratic China can be a great friend of India. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
The huge number of apps etc from china are also a result of solid govt backing and subsidies which are not so easily possible in a democratic poor country like India. But I hope things change for India in coming time.
@@pustakgagin2826 Democracy with the world’s 3rd largest economy and giving a bloody nose to China at the borders. We didn’t have to kill our own people to reach where we are. Remember the Great Leap Forward and Tiananmen Square.
Amen! We hate the CCP.. not the Chinese people. 🙏❤💛💙💜💚❤
In words of Kishore Mahbubani himself: "A democratic China would elect a nationalist leader". So, you should be careful what you wish for, especially with all the border issues you have, you don't want nationalist to gain power in China. Taiwan was ruled by Chinese nationalists that left the mainland and it ruled under martial law for over 40 years.
@@antoniorsoftware Nationalistic is acceptable. They will not be a threat for India. Land Grabbing and Debt Trapping is the biggest headache with China. In a Democracy, China will have to integrate with the world economy in a positive way.
But when it comes to naming the babies, chinese parents choose Western first name like Alexander wang lee, jessica chen, while the Indian origin people living in the US over decades now still name their children the traditional ones over the western names
I have huge respect for Chinese but got this feedback from a European executive once. You can have a conversation with a junior executive from India, they are open to new ideas and express themselves. You simply can not have an interesting conversation at or about work with an Asian junior exec. I found that very surprising and its not the language. Its the culture of extreme respect for authority.
This is something we need to work on l...
it's Americans and Europeans, they love classification.. Also, Asia is huge, from middle East to Japan, it needs sub category.. "Asians" means South East Asians..
@Archana Achu Asian is generally used to refer to Chinese and East Asian communities.
@Archana Achu Yep, technically speaking that is how it should be but when I say generally it's used to refer to the Chinese and East Asian communities I mean people across the world apart from us Indians of course tend to associate Asian with Chinese and East Asian countries. Most of them seem to refer to the Indian subcontinent with Southeast Asian.
Chinese propoganda to target Indian consumers
Very well-spoken. Everything you said from 3:20 to 4:03 is very true, and I especially saw that when I was in college. Indian international students already have pretty good English, but I think their outgoing behavior helps them definitely improve their communication skills.
This eventually comes true in the workplace too, where it's not just about being able to code but also about being likeable. I used to work at a well-known company in WA and now work at a well-known company in CA, and this is something that is still true.
I have relatives who came to the US from China in the 80's. They said they did the same thing when they were in college, only hanging out with other Chinese international students, and they notice it still happening today. It's great for growing a community, but it might not be good for personal growth and development.
X Thanks for the input. I heard that every year Chinese consist of the majority of Amazon’s pip. After hearing what you said, I think this might be true.
That’s quite right
We Indians must learn from Chinese that it doesn't matter from where you are completing your education at last you must someday should serve your motherland
Agreed!
Lots of diverse opinions, so let me throw in one that I don't see expressed by anyone, not even by Yusen Zhang (the maker of this video):
The Chinese government was clear about its reasons for sending its students here: to pick up new knowledge that they would then apply to problems in China. That means that the *expectation* was that they would go back to China.
There was no such centrally driven government effort by India. Indians coming here are a result of their own *individual* efforts and desires.
And the results are there to see, China has grown its economy due to its differing approach in a way that India failed to.
Thus Chinese *have* something to go back to, so they do.
Indians *don't* have something better to go back to, so they stay here.
Coupled with the additional factors like being more comfortable with English, etc, that means they integrate better here than the Chinese do.
Therefore they succeed here in a way that the Chinese don't.
(Full disclosure: I am one of those Indians that I speak about)
Thank you for your input!
True but also the charm of Foreign countries.
Very well put. I agree completely
Great analysis, we both respect our elders ..education and Tradition. I am and indian and never thought of competition with my chinese brothers .. we were in it together as fellow asians.
Nice and beautiful video you really make your point perfectly all that you said or the analysis you gave is great 👍 bro, both Indians and Chinese are very smart.
Yusen, I liked the fact that you used the name "Abhijit" as an example. Many people who are not Indian will not make the effort to learn Indian people's names. To see you mention Abhijit as an example already tells me you are a person who is respectful of other cultures. Learning someone's name is the first sign of respect. I appreciate very much you mentioning "Abhijit" as an example.
True...one reason is Indians respect all cultures and languages, for us language is not barrier it's bonding .....there are Indians in every part of world even in China and they learn the home languages to comfort others .... And respect our own mother language as well
Indians are respectful!!!
Not to forget ...most of software company has got Chinese Boss ...they can train their own people too .........but people from China prefer to live in their own land I believe
That's a fascinating point! Albert Einstein himself acknowledged the significance of the Hindu zero and the decimal system in his work. He once said:
"How much has been accomplished in mathematics, astronomy, and philosophy in India, and how much has been done in the grandeur of architecture and in the art of sculpture! How much has been done in the search for knowledge and in the conquest of the unknown! And yet, we in the West have only a very vague idea of this wonderful country."
He also recognized the importance of the Hindu zero, stating:
"The introduction of the zero is of inestimable importance. It is a mark of the highest intelligence, and it has had a profound influence on the development of mathematics and science."
In essence, Einstein acknowledged that the Hindu zero and the decimal system were crucial to his own work and the development of modern science and mathematics. He recognized that the concept of zero, which originated in ancient India, was a fundamental aspect of human thought and culture, and that it had far-reaching implications for our understanding of the universe and our place in it.
Without the Hindu zero, many of Einstein's groundbreaking discoveries, such as his theory of relativity and the famous equation E=mc², might not have been possible. The Hindu zero and decimal system provided a foundation for mathematical and scientific inquiry that Einstein built upon, and his work continues to shape our understanding of the universe today.
Leaning to English can also mean not embracing your own language.we respect how Chinese ,Japanese ,Korean have preserved their culture and language while coming out as developed nation.
Thank you!
@@nihaomrzhang Yes. Our languages are dying at the cost of anglosizing. It may be beneficial in a short run. But a strong nation has to protect its culture and identity if it wants to matter. Getting mastery over English is not a big deal. I myself have done my primary education in my mother tongue. But I can communicate fluently in English as well. But in India, it has become an obsession to put your kids in English medium schools from early childhood. As a result, they cannot even read in their own language. China has chosen the tougher path. Maybe you guys need to focus more on English through the college. But at least you have chosen to respect and preserve your own language.
No China is not a developed nation you can see there is millions of Poor's live in China if you visit China you will see reality .Chinese are not no open minded they prefer to live in their own shell or well . We Indians also love our Hindu culture .you know hinduis is the oldest majority living religion on earth still it's increasing Hinduism at least 7 to 5 thousands years old
Kumar You are 100% correct sir, India being a free democratic country, the world sees everything. As for China, an autocratic and communist country the world only sees what they want us to see. Most of the truth is hidden. they gave the world the Wuhan virus to move attention away from them. One of these days that will come back to bite them.
@@vibhavdeshpande8196 Same. English as a language is good for science and technology or for material things but not for social aspects since it's a very divisive language. It is much better to build the base in your mother tongue and rooted in Indian civilizational heritage/culture so you can recognize the toxic concepts or ideas later on since our cultural philosophies don't believe in exclusivity the language also promotes that by not having toxic labels. We don't have the construct of religion in our languages for example which is a new and western concept. So spiritual and pluralistic view is natural, especially when you know the history.
It is also very easy to switch to English afterwards. I did it in international school during high school without much help from school - first two years were grilling since I didn't understand the language so all subjects suffered and I worked my ass off but became good within 2 years, and extremely fluent afterwards. But that is while my school structure was Cambridge board which presumed everyone is on the same level of English and I had almost no working knowledge of the language beforehand. That is not the condition today and you can learn the basics of the language as a subject in primary schooling before switching the medium later on and there would be almost no issue. It would not only preserve the diversity of languages but also thoughts since there are many terms/words which are misappropriated by using English terms that don't even have the same concepts in its dictionary. This is how you lose and corrupt knowledge through linguistics over time.
I think in many cases, if you look at the history of Chinese immigration to the US, it was much more historical than India. The Chinese immigrants in the past were treated more like slaves and worked hard. They then remained more introverted as they were discriminated. Indians only went to the US in the 70's and 80's. Nowadays the Chinese community come generally to the West to study, then return to China, as there are incentives for the Chinese to return. Indians move over to a new country and make that their home, and become part of that culture and way of life. The introvert behavior could be because of language, but I do not think so, it is more of a traditional closeness that China retains in a way that wherever you go to trade it is for the country. Indians do not look at the world this way. It is more about self. Yes they love India and want it to succeed ,but our home is where we make it.
Indian govt did two mistakes
1. General category & creams were not considered
2. Company's Mark sheet culture..
My cousin a General category is super brainy in developing codes but 2nd class marks..He is in New Jersey holding high post..How can he return to India..He is just an example
@p k From all application forms 👍
You hit the point. Chinatown was built by slaves laborers during Qing dynasty when Chinese wanted to stay there temporarily and go back home as the end . This little Chinese guy literally have no clue to understand deeply. I bet he haven’t been to rail road museum in sancramento. The only knowledge that he know was Hollywood movies
I think it's India's more diverse culture! China has always been a unified dynasty! Before 1947 India was a geographical term. What Moody is doing now is using Hinduism to unite India as a whole! I think this may be correct, but I hope India will not go towards religious extremism, I wish India a successful development!
@@李飛-q7k The one mistake you state is Modi is uniting Hinduism. He is uniting the country and beleives that religion is important whichever it is, but you should think yourself as Indian first, religion is your personal belief.
Hinduism as a culture rather that a religion is unity of humanity rather than a segregation of beleif. It is essentially a way of life and thinking.
Despite indian more fluent in speaking english.. i think american people see the dark color of indian skin virtually have similiarity to black american than yellow chinese.. so this make them more easy to mingle.. and somehow i think white american who 'hegemonize' the job's level seeing chinese/east asian as a threat.
I really like the fact that the people in the comments section are well abled, educated , mature Indians and not those 6th or 7th class students who literally know nothing but show hatred towards another country and show fake patriotism. Nice, I am impressed
I’m impressed too! Restored my faith in humanity
You don't know anything, about Indian and Chinese disputes, though you are an Indian.
@@factshouse3690 you really think so
@@thanos8948 Ignore him, I am Indian and I agree with you. Some Indians...will say all sorts of thing about China but never admit that China is literally decades ahead of India in development. They are nothing but a small group of loudmouths. Hope one day , India will reach the level of China.
@@samyak4165 first of all , your name includes both Adolf and Stalin, I am already a fan. History fanatic like me?. Bro finally your comment is the most logical and straight up facts. A comment like yours is so difficult to find among these stupid people. Yes, China is decades ahead of India but these studs won't accept that their country is lagging in many aspects . Thanks man. By the way , your name consists of both leaders : one who loved nazism and other who was a communist . two very conflicting ideologies LMAOOO. People like you are difficult to find.
Very well articulated Yusen. I have had Chinese classmates and roommates when I was studying in France. I do find them very polite and well behaved but like you said they always stay within their group which made it difficult to get close with them. But I was fortunate to have an outgoing Chinese roommate and she was absolutely wonderful!
Thank you so much Anjana! Glad you made friends with Chinese :)
Indians and Chinese cultures are so similar. We both have great success stories.
A huge part of talented Chinese go back to China to contribute in booming start ups or Chinese fortune 500 companies. On the other hand Indians chose to stay and work in United States.
I believe more Indians will return!
@@nihaomrzhang Your are absolutely correct. More and more will return. Most of the Indian commenters on here hate not only themselves but also their brown skin color. They can't wait to become pink!
Asians are naturally talented, whether its Chinese or Indian. Dedication towards work and learning everyday are the two things taught by from a former chinese friend. BTW your voice 👌💜
Very well analyzed.India has an unbroken 200 years of English language learning, that's why Indians do so well. The IIT
contribution is massive too.The Chinese are extremely hardworking. They can better with more of English from class one onwards.
english language learning . you mean brutal colonization 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@a1aurobindo Yeah....very brutal!!! Not as bad as the rulers they had before though. Do read your history thoroughly or, speak to one of our many Indian families living here in the UK. I know because my late husband was from India.
@@jang3412 ofcourse the indian rulers were not good for the mass... yeah I do agree with you on this.
You are the first Chinese that ever I seen been very open. Well done 😍 you are doing very good job and would be nice if we all could embrace each other's more.
Thank you so much!!!
Most Chinese have the opportunity to go back and build their business in HongKong, Singapore or China. But Indians usually will settle or visit on tourist. I was born and raised in India, married to an Australian. we speak English and Hindi language equally. Also India had Mughal rules and British rule. Religion also play a big role in our lives, , no matter what culture or religion you fall in. You also experience better variety of foods, including vegetarian. I like Perth, people are so relaxed and friendly
All big lies you married a Aussie to get the PR
I’m been married for 14 yrs, with two kids, that’s how strong our love is.
These are deeper questions and hard to pin point. I think both communities tend to work hard for success and not stop until the goal is reached. This is the mindset.
Indians since birth as aquired to living in a multi-cultural and multi-lingual Envoirenment so much so that I am absolutely fluent in 3 languages and though Internationally many Indians arent considered English speakers like whole of my family is fluent in English but because of cultural identities prevention we call English our 3rd language while having a strong hold on it so not getting internationally recognised as a English speaker
Most of Chinese return to home country start company Indians join already existing us company haha😂😂😂
That's truuu
Because China banned most of the US Tech giants .. if tomorrow indian gov bans Google FB etc.. u wil see indian companies emerging too
@@shashankmijar2694 and Indians loosing job in US too
Don't worry... I'm an IITian...
And many of IITians these days are opening new companies... Doing startups...
So future will be ours...
By 2050 only India will be first
@@shashankmijar2694 I think India already banned a lot of products/Apps from many foreign countries especially from China...
@@stephen8698 not many sir.. only from China. Hope u know the reason
1) H1 Indians are cream of India and their wives work also.
2) English is their second language
3) Indians are extremely hardworking
4) education is top priority
…very humbling to hear this, brother Yusen - great video and solid information
Thank you so much!!!
From the perspective of a South Asian (non-Indian) British guy who studied engineering, then did a materials physics PhD:
I don't have any statistics, I'm sure someone somewhere did a study on this. But working around 5 universities, 4 in the UK and 1 in Singapore, Asians, weather they are Indians or Chinese, are over-represented in STEM subjects. This is particularly true on a masters/doctoral level. There are more Penguins in Sudan than English engineering PhD students. It's a bit more mixed when it comes to life sciences. On the other hand, British folks over-represent humanities and liberal arts doctoral degrees. Overwhelmingly so.
Why is that important? Because STEM degrees are much more valuable, with a higher earning potential. Being better at maths improves your earning potential drastically. And I would attribute this from culture. Western children are bought up much more, for better or worse, liberally. Asian parents emphasize mathematics and the sciences particularly hard. In my culture, mathematics is above all, followed by physics and applied sciences. Because mastering an aptitude for mathematics can set you up very well in life.
I think the US situation is a bit different. Unlike Europeans, Americans have a slightly higher respect for STEM subjects, and they still produce a respectable number of (local) stem graduates. We have very high rates of STEM graduations in the UK. But that's a huge part due to huge numbers of international fees paying Asian Students.
On the theme of your talk, I think one advantage Indians may have in the North American context, is the mastery of English. Educated Indians speak English very well. Far better than your average American or British. But what's more important, they can WRITE even better.
very well ! you covered all the points ! I am an indian settled in Bay Area and I love my chinese friends and neighbors !
Great 👌 video dude.. watching from India... Everything has its positive and negative impacts.. When you see successful Indians in USA, just understand, they are contributing to mostly American GDP, not Indian... But again, it's their own choice, they are free.
Best thing is Indian-Americans are helping India to rebuild its image.... And finally, English is not a choice for us it's a necessity... We have 22 official languages. So you can understand, we need a common language. Plus, BRITs were here for 200yrs...
Brits were only in Hong Kong for 100 years and it already changed the culture there. I can’t imagine how much impact of a 200 year colonization would do to India....
1st video of any Chinese person expressing his views i have ever watched.. You should talk more on such type of issues or communication hurdles.. And how can we grow together and faster with mutual understanding.. I love to get your opinion.. There is lack of Chinese prospective on many issues from the people of China in the social media..
Thank you so much! I will make more videos about this very soon!!!
You touched on many solid points, but I also think part of the reason why Chinese Americans are not as successful as other immigrant groups is because Chinese Americans had a pretty rough history in the US. Many of the Chinatowns in the US are kind of ghetto, such as the ones in LA, SF and NY. The Chinese in America were a historically oppressed group. Chinese immigrants lived in the US as early as the 19th Century and they worked under abusive labor conditions during the construction of the Central Pacific Railroad and California Gold Rush. Many early Chinese immigrants have also suffered from discrimination because of the "yellow peril" rhetoric being very prevalent during that time. It could very well be possible that the bad experiences of the earliest Chinese migrants left behind a bad legacy that further discouraged future Chinese immigrants from assimilating into the broader American culture. There are also many Chinese gangs in the US such as the Black Dragons, Flying Dragons, Wah Ching, Ghost Shadows and so on, but I haven't heard of any notorious Indian gangs in the US. The Chinese gangs in the US were known for being one of the most dangerous gangs in the country. China Mac is a famous Chinese American rapper who lived a tough life on the streets of Chinatown and he was a gang member. However, Chinese Americans are still doing relatively very well in the US compared to other immigrant groups when you consider the dark history of Chinese migrants settling in the US. It's just that I think their rough start in the US might have slightly held them back. I couldn't find that much information about the early history of Indians migrating to America, but I heard that the Chinese migrants outnumbered the Indian migrants during the 19th Century.
It also has to do with the fact that China is growing much faster than India and most Chinese students go home, while Indians would stay in the US and integrate. Also the relative isolation that exists between China and the rest of the world due to the Great Firewall means that there is simply more space to go to China and build something there and enjoy the protection.
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Agreed!
It's pretty great how china emerge as superpower in Asia but The CCP leaves a bad taste for china
Simply not true. More Chinese students come to the US and stay back.
They learn from america a free democratic country and invest in autocratic communist which cant crticise CCP .we Indians are far more better at least we live free India or America democratic society .also many Indians Americans also invest india and it will increase in future .
Your points actually sounds pretty valid!
Thank you!
My elder brother live in us last 5 years, he was BTECH AND MTECH from Bangalore. Proud to be an indian 🇮🇳..
You are a very smart young man and open minded. Interesting points. You can be an ambassador for young Oriental people stateside ...Encourage them, share your experience, train them...It's not just about Indians in the US, but able to adapt anywhere on this rock..Which we all share & should make it one big family.
Thank you!
As I am Indian I respect Chinese people.
We are hardworking people & oldest civilization in the world.
Hope one day will we will solve our differences & grow together.
Prince _M Impossible till they burn statues of Mao and in revolution kill all members of CCP. They have to atone blood f their confu-Budhist ancestor. A foreign Marxist philosophy!
We need learning more from Chinese and Indian, all stuff ,i mean by that succesfully asian races in the works place. Indonesian Just Like Chinese and Indian Mixed ya know.
*hii, my chinese Brother*
Hi!
@@nihaomrzhang 🤗🤗🤗🤗
Good analysis. The final point is quite relevant. Smart Chinese people go back to China and set up their businesses there. Smart Indians stay in the west and contribute to western companies. I don't think this is due to patriotism or whatever - people go where they think they have the best opportunity. We must also keep in mind that Western software companies have large operations and development offices in India (but not in China), thus contributing to the Indian economy.
Indians and Chinese are amazing people. Great success and low crime. 💪💪
Actually Indians speaking good English is simply because of our educational structure where we are taught all subjects in English right from our Junior school level.
(bcz obviosly we have so many languages nd we need one common one to communicate).
Love the way China makes it tourist friendly and professional for visitors during exhibition's despite language barriers.
End of day humanity should be the winner.
The same is here in the UK, particularly in medical profession.
American born Indian here. I think it is time that software companies work to solve this problem. I am sad to hear bright Chinese minds want to return to home much more than their Indian counterparts.
All the best to you regardless!
I think the cultural barriers are real!
@HY F You guys doing real smart things, because you are highly evolved to develop your own country, not a American country.
As an Indian who went to the US but left because i didn't like the visa lottery system, I worked with 2 smart Chinese engineers. One was a senior and he pushed me hard. I don't think Chinese engineers are any worse than us or any less skilled. Yes their english isn't that good but it's good enough to succeed. However, do remember a lot of smart Indian engineers go to the US. I think in China a lot of smart engineers stay back and build some sort of company (yes they copycat a lot but i think a lot more do build stuff in china than the case in india) - maybe it's because china has a 20 year headstart and a better domestic economy. That being said, indian americans are one of the greatest migrant communities in the world anywhere and kind of elite if you look at their education levels and background, so it's not right to compare against them. Chinese americans are as successful as any other asian community like the vietnamese or phillipino americans.
Thanks and respect sir for coming back. We need qualified people like you to lead the way. Namaste.
That only works because Chinese government doesn't allow outside companies to operate in china and if you do operate then you have to share your data with Chinese government which can be used by Chinese government to track their citizens.
Enlighten me how to get a job in usa as student?
How do you measure success? If it means being a departmental head of being in charge...then the Indians would be more suitable. Indians are more outgoing and they like drinking or spending Friday nights with the boys. Chinese are more reserved and are not so keen on nights out cos they probably have better things to do.
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Yes generally speaking most Chinese in the US are introverted
Asian as a whole 💞
Yes!!!
Hello all, I am a white neanderthal male who can only aspire to conceptualize and understand life at the level of genetic brilliance of East Asian and Indian backgrounds, who have a much higher IQ on average. I would like to develop my brain using supplements which help BDNF (brain dynamic neural growth factor) as well as studying hard on brain training programs, math, music, vocabulary practice, and programming on a daily basis. Also with training using a mixture of martial arts styles, yoga, and calisthenics. I will take the supplements which enhance BDNF and then do hand stands or other yoga positions to encourage blood flow to the brain, while meditating over a math problem or coding problem such as Leetcode.
I hope to complete my IQ test at 145 some day such as a talented Asian man, but am currently somewhere around 110-120 as of last test. I was tested at 138 as a child, but have had horrible brain fog (ब्रेन फ़ॉग or
뇌 안개 or 脑雾) all my life which I am still overcoming. I am hopeful and believe it is still possible. I would like to become either a programmer or something related to technology. All top engineers and programmers in my university class were Indian or Asian (despite being in the US) and understand all the complex things very well (not many white men in those top level classes, but maybe a few).
The Greater East Asia Sphere 😂
Brother you have said the right thing, I also used to think so that language is the barrier for Chinese people...
Respect to Chinese people from India 🇮🇳🙏
Of all the communities I met in college and beyond, I found the Chinese to be the most objective when talking about any subject. You are no exception. Thanks for the interesting analysis.
This is a very honest video, especially the point about Chinese people isolating themselves. 👍
Thank you!