8020 Aluminum Camping Rig for Hybrid Sienna Minivan
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
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The long-winded explanation for "I didn't want to use CAD" really hits home with me
Finally, someone used 80-20 for a van build
We were more minamillistic by using a $55 Wal-Mart metal bed frame and a $220 Wal-Mart full mattress, propped up with bricks and concrete piers to even bed. Had plenty of storage underneath for 2 suitcases, food, clothing and toiletries. But thus one is far cleaner look and multifunctional.
Thank you for watching and sharing your set up for sleeping. In the next video I will show how and where we put out luggage while driving and when sleeping. Cheers!
Impressed with your presentation, voice pitch and modulation, descriptive word choice and speed. Attributes of a good instructor. Well done!
My wife will like hour toilet section, your solution is reasonable and discreet!! Bravo
Excellent build and video! After spending years serving as Captain of the Starship Enterprise, this project must have been easy for you. :-)
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Perfect ! No 150.00 dollar a night hotel room , and get 35 mpg ! Nice !!!
Now how about titanium ? Twice as light as aluminum,twice as strong as steel ?
Toyota should hire you.
You are crazy handy and intelligent 😊
Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions. I have watched all your videos many times and, being a constructivist, have so enjoyed your 8020 designs and builds. I would love to be able to play with that stuff if I could afford it. I have been on a waiting list for a new Sienna for 6 months and, at 74 years of age, don't have time to wait. And, I discovered that my 2018 RAV4 has 75 inches of length for a bed after removing half of the second row bench seat. So I'm off on a new adventure in my old car with more money to spend on gas and campgrounds! Thanks again, I won't stop watching Tellvia.
Great video. Amazing engineering. Can hear you perfectly. Thank you for not using background music :-)
i thought version 1.0 of your sienna hybrid camping rig was amazing, but you've managed to make version 2.0 absolutely brilliant! curious to hear your thoughts after your first camping trip with the new setup. thanks for sharing! btw, i have a '21 sienna hybrid and you've got my brain wheels turning - ha! :)
Thank you for watching, Heath! Next video is coming. Cheers!
@@Tellvia I can hardly wait to watch it!
You may want to look at the new Sienna hybrid AWD woodland edition with 7" of ground clearance.
This design has really inspired me. You have shown me it is possible to convert my 2011 Sienna into a mini camper in a way that suits my needs, which I really appreciate. So thank you. Is there a way to DM you a few personal questions about a build? If so please let me know how. Great design, great video thanks for sharing.
Brilliant design. Minimalist and light.
Very clever. It is a shame Toyota doesn’t sell the Proace in the US. Lots of companies have turned them in to really smart weekend campers in Europe.
We have a 2021. Thanks for this! Might just have to copy it!
THIS IS BRILLIANT! I love your concepts and how you walked me through each step. I work in the automotive industry, so I appreciate your preparation for resale.
Thanks for sharing. 80/20 aluminum seems like a good solution and I like the addition of the 5 gallon bucket. It’s a must when no restrooms are available. I also like the slide out refrigerator and water. Easy access is essential. Looking forward to your next video! You need to show us how many pull ups you can do in one of your videos!😀
Thank you for watching and commenting. I guess I have to start training my pull-up for the video, ha-ha :) Cheers!
Space for a five gallon bucket can be a problem. In our situation, we used a small container to pee and because we were travelling we always had places to use the bathroom, including staying at the truck stops overnight.
@@spiritualexercise265Agree, the 5 gal bucket takes a bit of space. We plan to use the space at the bottom of the bucket (underneath the disposable bag) to store extra supplies like paper towels, water shoes etc. as only part of the bracket’s volume is required for the toilet function. Cheers!
excellent build!! Thanks for sharing your experience! Enjoy!!👍🏻🌞🚙🏞
Nice upgrade to your Sienna camper. Thanks for sharing!
Such a great build of 2.0! I enjoyed very much watching your videos.
Best part-time design on UA-cam. Bravo!
Your conversions are quite fantastic! But not really for those who are budget or technically challenged, like myself. 🤔 😅
I'd love to see if you could come up with a budget conversion for say $500 that you could also accommodate a bike? 😁😍😁
You pay so much attention to detail. I really enjoy your videos!
The aluminum used can be pretty expensive. A similar alternative for the bed platform is often done with 2x4s & thinner wooden horizontal slats work well for supporting the mattress. Cheap & light.
Love the back section for the toilet 💡, water & battery.
There's also a smaller fridge that other UA-camrs have used, which fits perfectly replacing the removed storage console between the front seats.
I've seen some with a bike rack mounted at the back, I think where a trailer hitch goes? Of course, you would need to prevent theft with a top notch lock & maybe put the front wheel inside ?
Beautiful build, incredible video. Answers all the questions with detail and precision. Thank you!!
You sir, are a gifted soul and thanks for sharing. This car is the best micro camper option in the world imho... I wish Toyota just sold a designed version of this specific vehicle, addressing this global passion.
Your design and execution of same is a thing of beauty. Looking forward to your continued progress and adventures. Curious to know where gear and luggage will be stowed. Thank you very much for the time and effort to document this transformation for the benefit of others. Much appreciated.
Awesome, thank you!
I really like this solution for a lightweight bed frame for the 2021 Toyota Sienna. Do you have the specs for the 8020 frame and recommended place to order the 8020? How did you remove the backseats without interfering with the electronics and airbags?
For the second row seats, you can purchase an airbag 'faker' for lack of better term. Plug it into the leads and then you won't have alarms for airbags.
Looking forward to seeing the next video! Always fun to see some smart engineering going from design/conception to build.
More to come!
I am a subscriber and have loved all the videos! I have been waiting like 10 months, and have several dealers still with NO XLE AWD Siennas! I want to be out there with you... In the meantime, I will be here watching your videos!
Thank you for watching, Wallace! More to come. Cheers!
Thank you for sharing your brilliant ideas for Sienna conversion. I have been looking for a camping car with two person sleeping, and you gave me all ideas to make decision.
However, I won't be able to make the conversion nicely as you showed.
You must be another MacGyver, or you have been worked as a car conversion specialist.
I will watch this video again and again to understand each step clearly. Thanks,
Hi Don. Glad it was helpful! A full tutorial and list of the build material will be available soon on Tellvia channel. Cheers!
Very nice and clever evolution of your design! Thank you for sharing! Your next project should be to solidify your pull-up bar!! Haha
It does bend quite and bit with one point loading, HA-HA!! A metal pipe inside will fix it :). Cheers!
Nice build, I recently got a similar bucket for the same purpose in my 22 sienna
Great design! Can’t wait for your next video!!!
Very helpful tips here, Telvia. Thank you!
Awesome build! Happy Trails
This is inspiring!
Very good. I hope to duplicate your build. Thanks for sharing the specs and sources!
I want to be like you when I grow up 🥺
I highly suggest you instal a hightop roof on this. Would make it a very nice camper with no compromises
Thank you for watching and your comment. By specs Sienna rails are rated for max 150lb weight load. The main benefit of Sienna is its great fuel economy of 36 mpg. Any roof top load reduces fuel economy reduces fuel economy from 6 to 30% according to the US Dept of Transportation Study. So far we found that we have enough space inside for everything we want to bring camping. Cheers!
i like the aluminum much better than wood.
Great ideas. Thank you for sharing and God bless.
Brilliant! 🎉 Thank you!
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Very impressive! We are considering a 2021 or 2022 sienna, to use as a camper van. You are so skilled and creative, I wonder if you could come up with a plan for a bed and storage for 2, without taking out the second row seats, and allowing them to still be useable, when needed. IF we decide on the Sienna, we could not really remove the 2nd or 3rd row seats. We would get a swing away storage box, for the back of the van, for more storage.
Hi Jann, thank you for watching and commenting. A few month ago I published a video about my first generation camping conversion for the new Hybrid Sienna. That conversation allows sleeping in the van with the second raw seats in place. Here is a link to that video - ua-cam.com/video/VMXzlxlAoik/v-deo.html Cheers!
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Great content, as always! Will you reveal in the next video what you do with your bike when using version 2.0? Also, you inspired me to use my pull-up bar today!!
Hi Jim, thank you for watching. Yes, as a part of showing how we use version 2 rig on our next camping trip I also will show options for carrying my bike. Way to go with the pull-ups ). Cheers!
Excellent video, thank you for sharing your knowledge.
If it would be very easy, could you send me the interior dimensions of the Sienna with 2nd row seats folded up? I can't find them on line anywhere; Toyota only lists volume. I want to build a single bed platform so I need length, width and height. If it is any trouble, DON'T DO IT. I have watched your videos many times and I still marvel at your creativity and drive for perfection. And you are having fun!!!
Hi Linda, sorry for belated reply. We were on a camping trip for past two weeks with no access to internet. As with most of modern vehicles the precise interior dimensions are difficult to measure because of curved interior surfaces. In new Hybrid Sienna model with 2nd row seats folded I still was able to fit a 72” x 48” mattress. The floor in the van in not flat and it slopes down toward the front of the van. Thus, a sleeping/leveling platform is required to sleep comfortably. The high of the space behind folded 2nd row seats varies between 46 to 42 inches from floor to sealing. I recently build a second version of my camping conversion (here is a link to my video 8020 Aluminum Camping Rig for Hybrid Sienna Minivan ua-cam.com/video/Q9i4xcA48ew/v-deo.html), that allows a more comfortable seating on the bed. When building my conversions I had to custom measure and fit every peace because of the complex shape of interior panels and because of smaller side and rear door openings for placing the rig components in and out of the van. I don’t have a clear answer for you, but hope that my explanation is somewhat helpful. Cheers!
Cool content, Bro
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Love the precision and ingenuity. Are you an engineer?
Thank you for watching, Alvin. I am just a tinkerer :) Cheers!
@@Tellvia You're a pretty darn good tinkerer...........lol.
Thank you so much for your videos. I wondered if the new build with extruded aluminum could be modified to keep the second row seats in the van
Hi Gay, there is 72” in length between the rear door panel and backs of folded and slid all the way forward 2nd raw seats. So yes a platform can be build to have just a bed in this space. In fact, you can even keep the 3rd raw seats folded and make floor behind folded rear seat leveled with flat luggage and gear, put a mattress on top and you’d be ready for sleeping. The only luggage you’ll be able to bring with you, however, should be packable onto the front seats at night. Cheers!
Great video …. I’m looking for your 80/20 parts list since I have the same setup.
I’m so impressed! I’m planning on buying a 2021 Sienna Hybrid to use as my full time rig. I hope I can make it work. If you put the 5 gal bucket in the third row seat well, how do you sit on it? Do you have to crawl?
Hi Ginger, thank you for watching! The demo for using 5 gal bucket at night coming in the next video. Cheers!
Good stuff.
Looks great, I am a bit confused by placing the fridge and water jug above the bed. That's the space where your legs should rest while sleeping. There seems to be room left for just one person's legs now, but the bed is wide enough for two. You didn't show your new build in sleeping configuration (with the mattress and pillows,) so I might be missing something... And I'd like to see a little "demonstration" of going from sleeping position to using the bucket toilet - is it possible to do that without waking up the other person (assuming there are two of you)?
Hi Eric, thank for watching. From the back of front seats to the back door Sienna has 96”. The fridge and water sliders take 27” of the length, so 69” is available for the mattress. The demo for sleeping and using the bucket from sleeping position is coming in the next video. Cheers!
Love this channel! Tellvia - here's something for you to consider. If you simply give TNUTZ your order number(s), they can put together a package with all the Aluminum parts (cut to spec) and you could get a commission on each one sold. What do you think? (I'd buy one as soon as I'm able to get one of these vans at MSRP).
Thank you for the kind words and ideas for the channel! I am working on developing a subscription membership portal for the Tellvia channel where members will have exclusive access to more detailed instruction videos and tutorials, as well as all the info they need to build the gen 2 rig. What do you think of this idea, DrG? I hope the inventory shortage for new Siennas will be over soon! Cheers!
@@Tellvia Yes, that is a good idea too! I'm an engineer and love desiging things like this myself but my time is limited and sometimes it's nice to capitalize on and recognize the efforts of others like yourself.
I will also be interested in your membership portal. You have great ideas and ingenuity!
My approach will be to use 80/20 (or a variant) to build out a camper for 1 person to be in for a few weeks at a time. I'll keep one middle row seat on the passenger side and place my, stove, water and other things behind it in a custom cabinet. The driver's side will be for a narrow bed at night and open space when not sleeping. A Lagun table will probably be included for the middle passenger seat, for eating, computer work, etc. Many design details are still in the formative stages but it seems a workable approach, based on your videos so far. Keep up the great work!! You have given a lot of inspiration to people who want to do similar things.
@@Tellvia I am also interested in your membership portal. I have an XSE and I still keep the 3rd row seats in the van. I need a platform solution that I can fold up and store in the back seat well (or possibly on the roof rails) when I need to carry more than 2 passengers. I’m temporarily using 11” cots which fold easily and provide great underneath storage but they don’t level nicely.
Hey Tellvia: Thanks for the ideas. I’m finding that tricking out a Sienna (‘14) is much more difficult than my previous Tacoma was to modify. I used 80/20 in it and am glad to see your use of it in the Sienna. I’m wondering where you sourced the plastic feet and how does that end of the frame keep from sliding side to side? Much appreciate you putting this up.
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Hi Rodney, thank you for watching! The bed structure feet were from TNUTZ.com, some other vendors may carry them as well. As you saw in the video the bed structure is secured to 3 floor seat mounts and bed platform does not move side to side on the road. The feet extensions are fixed in place with 80/20 fasteners. I hope this answers your question. Cheers!
Super! Thanks for the fast reply, Tellvia . I will poke around for those feet. Glad to hear it does not shift.
I have to use the back seats intermittently so will use a bit different layout, but the 80/20 with Velcro and feet I think will make it more level and modular. Appreciate your videos and help.
Happy Trails!
It’s over my head.
This design is pretty intense. What can you say regarding the Hybrid Sienna’s towing ability for a small camping trailer under the max 3500 lb towing rating?
I wouldn't tow with the Sienna hybrid.
Great video! I will take your idea and make something similar so I can easily slide bowling balls from the trunk to the third row seating area after removing the seats! Can I ask what screws you use to fasten the velcro to the 80/20? Didn't realize those were so strong! Also, what adjustable angle brackets would I use if I were to use the 10 series 80/20? Thank you!
Hi Cindy, thank you for watching! The 80/20 aluminum parts come in metric (mm) and imperial standards (inches). The metric standard is available as Series 10, Series 25 and Series 40. The imperial standard has Series 15 (most common) and Series 30 sizes. In both systems the higher the load on the structure the higher Series extrusions are recommended. If you plan to build just shelves for your project using Series 10 would be okay but for bed or sitting surfaces Series 10 would be too weak. Each Series has specific mounting hardware which in most of cases is not compatible with other standards and Series. The only exception is Series 15 and Series 40 - the brackets for this series are cross-compatible, but the bolts and nuts are not (since one is imperial and the other is metric. I highly recommend to commit to one of the standards and Series as it will get very confusing when your search for right parts in your project. I use Series 15 parts and sometimes buy brackets that are Series 40. For attaching Velcro strips to extruded aluminum rails I use
5/16-18 x 1/2" Button Head Socket Cap Screws, 304 Stainless Steel 18-8, Bright Finish, Coarse Thread Fully Threaded, Allen Hex Drive, 20 PCS - amzn.to/3Y9G3s9. The length of the screw is defined by the the depth of the Al extrusion rail grove and the thickness of a bracket or material that is being attached to the the rail. Velcro is very thin so ½” screw length is right to attach it to Series 15 extrusion. You would have to measure the depth of the Series 10 rails to determine the length and the thickness of the that will work for Velcro. I am working on Tellvia Membership portal where I will publish tutorial videos about 80/20 aluminum structures I’ve build in which I would go in greater detail on compatibility of parts and talk about other practical considerations. I plan to make this portal to be available to members in the next few weeks. I hope this is helpful. Cheers!
@@Tellvia very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to respond. Now I will be busy pondering over all the information you just told me. Looking forward to seeing more of your projects!
Hello, I'm watching your video. I am getting a lot of useful information. However, it will be more beneficial if you upload the size and part of the material on the screen and share it with subscribers. thank you
i like the HDPE.
Now I just have to wait 10 years for used hybrid Siennas to reach my price point...lol
I may hav emissed it but do you have plans and a material list?
you sound like the count one peanut butter and jelly sandwich 🥪 2 peanut butter and jelly sandwiches 😆 🤣 😂
1x(12/26/22)…10:00…5 gallon toilet bucket at end
Do you also speak Spanish?
At about 1:08 you say “is muy important for us” just kind of curious. Your videos are very interesting, keep them coming.
Amazing solution and happy to watch your UA-cam.
I am trying to copy your idea to my Sienna. Is there anyway I can get your parts list? I am not an engineer so it is hard to follow. Any advice and comments?
Thank you for watching, Sean! I am currently working on a series of more detailed instructional videos that will include the design details and parts links you are looking for. These videos should be available in the next few weeks. Cheers!
Great and hard to wait!!! I will build under your instructions.
Do you have a video on how you removed the 2nd row seats and rails?
Here is a link to a good video about 2nd row seats removal by another creator ua-cam.com/video/24cYWBiTUwY/v-deo.html. The mounting rails are difficult to remove, and I have not done it. Cheers!
Will you ever make a blueprint of your system available for us to build for ourselves?
Can you give me the size you made, and the purchase list, thank you very much, I like your design very much
fantastic
Do you think you would make a side room out of canopy fittings, poles and mosquito netting?
Hi Dom, thank you for watching and commenting. No, we haven’t felt the need for mosquito netting on most of our trips. One good option is to use a clam shell style tent like this one amzn.to/3wEZFJQ on rainy days or when bugs are in force. Cheers!
Miss the buy pass air bags middle seats dose he show it at all
Hi Telvia, Great Work! I was wondering if you could share the dimensions of the cut 8020 aluminum parts in a spreadsheet or PDF? Thanks!
Yes, can I get the build list of materials too?
Same. Please share
I've heard there are issues with removing the middle seat, related to the airbag system. How have you managed those?
Hello-- do you have links for where to get the aluminum pieces, including hardware and measurements of all the pieces available? I would like to see if I can do this even though I have no tools. Thank you very much
Hi Flynn, thank you for watching. I am working on a channel membership portal with info on specifics of the build and more detailed assembly videos. The portal should be online in the next few weeks. Cheers!
@@Tellvia thank you, I will be on the lookout for the portal. This looks like a great solution. I am hoping it's something I could do. Even if I didn't have the skills for removing the third row seats and working with that area the way you did, I am hopeful I could do the frame you use for the bed and have that third row folded flat to be a place for my 90lb dog to have a separate sleeping area. I have a carrier that I want to put on top for much of my storage. So, I look forward to seeing if I can use these materials to make a frame. I have been frustrated that the new Sienna is harder to work with given these second row seat mounts are really something to have to work around. Thanks again
Amazing! Are you able to share the budget for the bed 8020 aluminum platform?
Thank you for watching, Vanessa! The cost of 8020 aluminum parts in this DYI build, including the extrusions and assembly parts, was about $700. The price of the aluminum varies widely from vendor to vendor and by season. I recommend shopping around and exploring options for buying raw materials locally, as shipping of uncut 8020 extrusions can be costly. Cheers!
I thought the seats in the hybrids were not removable? You have the second and third row out right?
Thank you for watching. Yes, I have 2nd and 3rd raw seat removed since we use our van 90% of the time for 2 people. The removal of the second raw seats requires disconnecting of the airbags, which can be done but could lead to problems if done improperly. I have done it at my own risk and because of safety concerns don’t discus this part of seat removal in my videos. Cheers!
What are the inner dimensions of the rear compartment which houses your cooler and water bottle?
Hi Linda, thank you for watching. As with most vehicle interiors nothing inside is square inside new Sienna but I would estimate that a 44”w x 44”h x 23”d box will fit in the third row well space while leaving a full 72” x 48” cabin space for an unobstructed sleeping platform. I hope this answers your question. Cheers!
Hello! great video. Can you share the website of the company information for the 8020 extruded aluminum parts?
Hi Roger, thank you for watching and commenting! For this build a majority of parts I used were from TNUTS.com and some brackets and fasteners were purchased from Amazon. See links in the description of the published videos. I am working on a series of new videos related to to the design, parts and vendors for this version 2.0 build and my updated version 2.5 build, which I will discuss in the upcoming videos soon. The list and links to all parts will be available with new videos. Cheers!
I have a 2023 Siena and I wanted to copy your build but perhaps with the ultra lightweight 8020 is there some way for me to get the specs and site you used to order the precut 8020 just read thru the comments and ima need that portal
Hi Thomas, thank you for watching! I ordered pre-cut 80/20 extrusions from Nutz.com. The membership portal of Tellvia channel is not public yet. My recommendation is to use your best judgement for the dimensions of bed support. I am still modifying my bed support to improve the ease of its removal when I need second row seats installed back. The ultralight weight 80/20 should work fine as long as it is supported every 3 feet of length. Cheers!
Do you think the woodland edition is much better if I just want the occasional camper, and maybe once a year head to the mountains mostly on shoveled roads though? Or is the normal xle or xse enough? Also, how important is awd or is it more hassle than it is worth
The AWD system in Sienna is electric motor based. Even in normal every day driving this AWD system is very useful. I see on the drivetrain monitor in our Sienna that AWD engages automatically during accelerations, or when going up steep streets. It engages automatically only when the system detects that that it will be beneficial for the van’s driving dynamics and safety. It also helps to keep the van stable at highway speeds. Many of FWD vehicles have problem with spinning front wheels during off the stop acceleration, even in normal driving not a drug-race. This is mitigated with AWD setup. We never take our van in snow country but I feel and see the benefits of AWD system any time I drive it. Regarding the fuel economy penalty - it is only 1mpg lower that FWD. In our experience we see 35.5 mpg average after 20K driven. It terms of reliability and longevity, because it is an electric drive at rear wheels similar to modern EVs, which is proven to be reliable, and since it engages only when needed, I believe it will outlast the front drive setup. We use our Sienna primarily as a camping vehicle and sometimes have to drive on gravel roads to reach campgrounds. The AWD makes the van feel sure-footed on those roads. Since your are an occasional camper you probably will be happy with FWD as well, but for the price difference the AWD may be worth considering. The Woodland addition has better included options than Limited. If you don’t need the AC inverter XSE may be a good choice, as it has sportier looking front fender and wheels. Good luck with your hunt for your new Sienna. Regardless of the trim and options I think you will be happy with it. Cheers!
@@Tellvia Thanks so much for the thoughtful response! Two last questions:
1) Is the extra 0.6 inches of height clearance on the woodland meaningful in camping / everyday situations or would I be just as good with XSE model?
2) I am being offered the xse 25th anniversary edition in FWD... this one has 20 inch wheels too, so a bit worried about ride quality for an everyday commuter, and occasional camper. Given what you just said in your response, I would probably prefer an AWD and this one also has the rear entertainment system with NO electronic mirror, and the RES is something I could probably do without (and blocks the rear view mirror!). With that being said, it is a 25th edition and I'm being offered at msrp + 2k, which seems to be a reasonable mark up around where I am. Any thoughts and insights would be much appreciated. Amazing videos and great ideas on camping with the sienna!
@@thedadmikey5820 Here are my thoughts about your questions:
1) The 0.6” clearance is nice but is not critical for camping and at most developed campgrounds, you’d be good with XSE model.
2) I know you are excited about the offer for the 25th anniversary van they have available but I would pass on this deal, here is why: the RES system protrudes down from the ceiling almost 3” and rubs us of the headroom when sleeping in the van. It will be also obsoleted when you decide to sell the car. I know deals and prices have been terrible in the past two years but 2K over MSRP seem to be to high as the car sales in 2023 have been slumping. We paid MSRP for our van in April 2021. I believe you will be able to get your van for less if your are prepared to wait for couple of month and negotiate harder. I don’t know how 20” wheels perform on Sienna, we have 19” wheels and the ride is very comfortable. May be 20” would be good as well. The camera-based rear mirror is really nice to have, especially when you carrying a lot of luggage of bulky items blocking the rear view. I hope this helps. Let me know what trim/options you end up buying. Cheers!
@@Tellvia great advice. Thanks a bunch
Is that a collapsible ladder in the v1.0 build ?
No, I have not used aluminum ladders in this build. The new design uses 8020 aluminum extrusions as a scaffold. Cheers!
Hi, was the aluminum for the bed frame very expensive?
Current market price of 80/20 aluminum extrusions (series 30) is ~ $7 per foot. I estimate that for the bed platform shown in the video I spent about $300. Cheers!
Could you tell me is that possible to do with the 2022 Sienna? Thank you
Hi Jacques, thank you for watching! Based on published changes to the 2022 vs 2021 model I have not seen any changes to the interior of Sienna. So my build should work for the 2002 model. Cheers!
80/20s create too much dead space. In a small place like a minivan you have to make use of every square inch. Get rid of those seat sliders and fit a plywood floor that is stepped up in the back. Then build a level bed / storage system on top. Make sure that your fridge and any cooking options are accessible from the inside. Using any of this from the outside makes zero sense when it rains, when its dark, or when you try to stay stealthy.
Hi Asad, thank you for watching. As you can see from the video I leave the 80/20 structure open - so the space under/inside of the rigging is available for storage. 80/20 provides high load capacity, rigidity and relative ease of assembly. This set of advantages will be difficult to achieve with any other building material. The main advantage of hybrid Sienna is high fuel efficiency. We value this and putting anything on the top of the van will reduce it’s fuel efficiency by ~30%. The van is too small to be able to use kitchen inside of the van regardless of the weather (at least when two people are traveling inside). Cheers!
@@Tellvia You can anchor plywood right on the floor without any framing, it only takes a handful of custom metal pieces that sit between the plywood and existing holes. You can install all kitchen appliances with access from the inside. Look up drawer fridges for truckers and induction cooktops. I have done all this and fitted a 10 gal fresh water tank, pump, sink, faucet, grey water tank, fridge, induction cooktop in a drawer, butcher block for prepping meals,, fordable desk, TV, computer monitor, soundbar with subwoofer, gaming console, full-size toilet with divider, 280 amp DIY lithium battery bank, 3 charging systems from Victron, 1200 watt sine wave inverter, passive AC system, pull out bed that is 38 by 94 inches, 3 large drawers for food / clothes / dishes / tools / beach bag, 4 fans, LED lighting, as well as a 465 watt commercial grade solar panel on the roof.
@@asdadasdasd4594 Sounds great! Do you have a link to the video or webpage showing this. Thanks!
@@asdadasdasd4594 You definitely should post pictures (at least) because this does sound intriguing.
Hi Telvia - Quick follow up question: Would you happen to know where the hybrid battery is located on your Sienna? I am expecting my new Sienna next month and will most likely do something similar, but I am curious as to whether I can remove that big bump in front of the back seat area. I have a bad feeling that the hybrid battery is located back there somewhere like it is on my Prius. If I can't level out that bump, I will need to do something similar with 80/20 in order to install a level floor. Ultimately, I'm hoping to install a bed as well as a kitchen and workspace area. This Sienna build is going to be way more complicated than I was expecting. 😑
Hi William, than you for watching. The hybrid battery in new Sienna located under the front seats. There are two air inlets under the outer sides of the front seats to the fans that cooling it. My understanding is that it is difficult to remove center console because it is integrated with the shifter and a number of electrical switches and outlets. I hope your Sienna will arrive without delay. Cheers!
@@Tellvia Thank you! I'm looking forward to your next update on your current build! :)
How much is the total cost (excluding labors)?
Can i get the exact measurements and list of aluminum parts needed? And i live in the north east which means i would like to be able to open the fridge from inside the van. Can the slider go the other way?
I am working on new content for the members portal of Tellvia channel. The measurements, parts info, details of my builds and detailed instructions for seat removal and rig assembly will be available to the channel members in the next couple of weeks. The fridge slider has a hard stop on one side. You could install it such that it slides toward the front of the van, but I am afraid there is not enough headroom to fully open the fridge lid. Selecting a different fridge design could be an option.
@@Tellvia Is the portal up and running yet?
Hi Telvia - Can you confirm that the thickness you used was 4040 and also...which website did you go to for the 90 degree adjustable angled brackets? Thanks. :)
Hi William, yes the railing I used is 4040. Here is a link amzn.to/3P0ssio to the 90 degree adjustable brackets. Cheers!
Hi William, I see your question from yesterday in my YT emails but it does not point me to the chat you posted it in and it is difficult to find it among hundreds of other posts. So I am replying to you question in this thread. Yes, I used a Toyota made floor map for the third row seat well to cover the floor. Please post your questions in a new post next time😀 Thank you and heers!
Do you provide the plans for the 80/20 extruded aluminum frame?
Hi Terrance, thank you for watching and for your question. I do plan to provide a way for my viewers to access a detailed plan for my most recent build. There is a lot of info I need to collect and organize to make it useful. My build is also evolving with added modifications. I hope to lock my design soon 😊. Cheers!
@@Tellvia Great! I'm looking forward to it!
I purchased 2021 Sienna 2WD last year. Took delivery in July '21. Then in September drove from Cleveland, OH, drove out to Denver, Arches & Zion NPs, and then down to Grand Canyon, Flagstaff, AZ then headed back home to Cleveland. All seats were in. I retire end of October this year and look forward to more traveling.
Kind regards, -Terry
Any chance you're selling the old setup? Am I really the first to ask this?
Hi Diana, thank you for asking. Several people have asked the same about my version 1 rig. I am thinking about listing it on eBay for auction. I will let you and other Tellvia viewers know when the listing is active. Cheers!
Does any trim of 2021+ Toyota Sienna has panoramic moonroof in the back?
Hi Mark, thank you for watching. The 2021-2022 Toyota Sienna in any trim has a standard size moonroof above front seats only. The dealers sell them equipped with roof rails in presumption that most of users will carry gear/luggage on the roof. Thus the panoramic roof would have been obscured by the roof carriage. A Lexus version of this minivan, when available, might have a pano moonroof. Cheers!
hi. Did it cost you a lot with the aluminium frame?
About $700. Thank you for watching!
Do you have a version thar allows for the second roe seats to remain?
Hi Gay, yes my gen 1 build allows sleeping in the van with 2nd raw in place. Here is a link to my video about it - 2021 Toyota Sienna Camping Conversion: 2 and 4 seats sleeping configurations
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Very smart work. Any video instructions on how to remove the 2nd/3rd row seats ?
thanks for any advise, I am not very "handy" like you
There is an informative video on YT about removing the second row seats, just search Toyota Sienna Hybrid 2021 seat removal. It involves disconnecting the seat built-in airbags, however. For safety and liability reasons I don’t have videos about seat removal and would recommend that you contact a third party automotive expert to do it. Cheers!