Archbishop Lefebvre: Sermons At The Bishops Consecrations 1988

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  • @kathleencurran7805
    @kathleencurran7805 4 роки тому +12

    Thank God I was one of the faithful at the ceremonies in Econe in 1988.The ceremonies were so so beautiful. The church will return to Tradition some day. Its happening already.

  • @bactid
    @bactid 5 років тому +46

    I absolutely adore Archbishop Lefebvre. He will go down as one of the great figures of the whole history of Mother Church in decades and centuries to come.

    • @pattican700
      @pattican700 2 роки тому

      don't use the word ADORE in relation to any human.... and people wonder about Catholics... the world won't see YOUR meaning, they'll see what they want to see.. Yes, I nitpick, but words have meaning and the ETERNAL WORD is the only person who merits adoration.

  • @bedar6961
    @bedar6961 5 років тому +61

    What a holy and faithful warrior of Christ: "Keep Tradition until Tradition comes back to Rome". It is Operation Survival. Not operation suicide; we have no choice we MUST live". AMEN

    • @SKIFFMAN1231
      @SKIFFMAN1231 4 роки тому +3

      Makes sense save tradition for us to find it again a time capsule send this to Michael voris

  • @traditionforever5038
    @traditionforever5038 5 років тому +37

    I applaud you Anthony for posting this video ... thanks so much !
    Archbishop Lefebvre was a bright light in the darkness that surrounded the church at that time .
    A voice that was spoken with Love ...but Rome did not listen, they abandoned the Truth and started a new religion, a new priesthood, a new Catechism ....
    We are at war dear faithful .
    Embrace Tradition and the real Catholic Faith ...
    Thank you Archbishop Lefebvre for standing firm for the Catholic Faith!

  • @moonbeam127tmiller5
    @moonbeam127tmiller5 4 роки тому +4

    Thank You So Very Much for These Two Sermons Given by The Good Bishop of My Lord! I am 7th born of 10 CATHOLIC Children. Two very Devout Catholic Parents, who led us all in The Daily Rosary after dinner! I after Sunday Mass every week; was the Last to excuse myself. As my Father would always speak of The Sermon Given. And then giving his Heart; which belonged Totally To Our Lord and Our Lady! I am Only born as well as 7 others born after my Parents Second Conversion! Due to Our Lady of FATIMA! Ave Maria! As my father was the one who I will State; was my Teacher in and about life! He Never Accepted VATICAN TWO! I always wanted to know everything He Spoke of; so my heart always heard him speaking To God. I'll say under his breath! He started teaching me and my brother just a year and half after me; The Bible! With All of it's Beautiful Pictures! So I can say: I am my Father's Daughter! My Father's Beliefs are the very Same as The Good Soldier of Christ from France! I believe He was The Monarch from France who kept The True Faith of Jesus Christ! I myself have been through many serious battles with the Devil who I know hates me! But my Lord had warned me of this when I was only about 5 years old! And has truly come after; not only me. But then also my four children, from the onset of their lives! But my Lord and my Lady; who I had Consicrated my Heart and life to! Have helped me abundantly! But as we all know; the battle is extremely upon us! Especially after my Consicration; as my Father became extremely worried for me. As he said; "Oh Teresa; are You sure you are ready? Because Your Life is going to change; Drastically! Are you sure you are ready? " I replied; without even thinking about what he knew was coming! " Oh Yes Daddy; for what else was I born for? If Not to live for God?" He looked at me with extreme Concern; but said " Ok then, but just remember; You life Will Change, Drastically! And I mean drastically! " Well I must say; I could have Never Understood exactly what he was warning me about! But I So Understand Now; that one must give their Yes to God; With No Conditions! With No Plan or Nothing of one's own thinking! This is what God Loves! One must be Only what The Lord of one's choice decides and leads one to do! Which I do also now looking back, Completely Understand The answer I had always asked my Lord through out school years. " Why Lord did you make me so stupid? Why can I not learn anything in school? Even though I knew I would never use anything that they were teaching me! I was Greatly picked on by a certain nun! But then again it was well known; even back then; I was only in first grade; that my father would not accept Vatican two! But also; my heart knows how meek it is, and I needed to be tuffand up! I suppose! But again, I was also shown; just what was coming, by my Lord. Who had entered the Church back then! I have No doubt whatsoever; that the 3rd secret of Fatima. Is exactly what had been infiltraiting the Church! For I was shown this at such a young age! But we all must stay strong, and Stand firm in our faith! As The Lord has put it in my Heart; That He Needs a few Good Men! I also want to say; I do not think many People realize what time we are living in! For I also was made to feel very strongly; It is like it was; In the days of Noah!!! Well, I could go on speaking for hours! But I so thank you for those letters you have read! They give my heart strength! As my battles and physical wounds have just about put me in bed most of the time! With an aching heart; that So misses my youngest son! Who also has been so wounded and also in the very same conditions as his Mother! Me! Please pray for he and I. And whom ever else you may know who still prays fervently! My son's name is; Aaron Peter! Thank you again, Teresa.

  • @mauramillay5039
    @mauramillay5039 3 роки тому +5

    2 of my children were confirmed by Bishop Fellay just last Sunday... most beautiful service I’ve been too!!!! It was hard to tell my parents, but I did so trusting in Gods plan for us!!!!

  • @QueenieQKat
    @QueenieQKat 5 років тому +28

    Looking forward to your live stream. One too many antics from Pope Francis drove me to attend mass at an SSPX chapel. People need to realize you don’t join the SSPX, it is a fraternity of priests. It is licit for Catholics to attend mass at an SSPX chapel if there is no TLM available nearby. I found it an attractive alternative to leaving the church and converting to an Orthodox Church, something I contemplated but could not do. While praying the Rosary and asking for guidance I received an inspiration to go to the SSPX. I am so grateful to Archbishop Lefebvre, though back in 1980, I sadly was one of the majority who considered him a heretic. God does work in mysterious ways.

    • @truthangel5948
      @truthangel5948 4 роки тому +7

      Same here. So grateful to God for SSPX

  • @evahunter3885
    @evahunter3885 5 років тому +17

    The traditional church will be our salvation. God bless you and thank you.

  • @joannabuk
    @joannabuk 5 років тому +10

    Thank you dear GOD for Abp Marcel Lefebvre!

  • @novellanurney1294
    @novellanurney1294 5 років тому +23

    Thank you, I've read these before,but it is something you can hear over and over. Happy Eastertide, may God Bless you.

  • @evolvingerinb
    @evolvingerinb 5 років тому +29

    I consider this so valuable. Such wisdom and foresight he/they had back during V2 and the damages it would cause. These holy men some day will be looked upon as saints. As so much unfolds with Mother Church and the evil that seeks to distroys her, makes me believe these holy servants knew so much more than they get credit for. Stick with foundational truth, not modernism. Thank you so much for bringing this here. Greatly appreciated. God bless.

    • @echostarsinc
      @echostarsinc 5 років тому +8

      ABL is a SAINT - no doubt in my mind and so many of the Holy Fathers and all the matrys of the remnant underground church - particularly those in Chine being killed and persecuted and most recently the innocent souls of Sri Lanka that have been so badly sold out by the Vatican in their pathetic political stance on Ecumenicalism - all in the name of One New World Order Religion. Why are so many people following the Cultural Marxists when the lies, the hate and the deceit is so obvious. Even the Satanic worship is out in the open and no one seems to care very much. Has the world been so desensitised to the truth of Christ?

    • @evolvingerinb
      @evolvingerinb 5 років тому +7

      @@echostarsinc I believe it is by design... Satan has laid out a web over the years in so many areas. People's brains/souls have been damaged through so many attacks from all directions. Bad education, food, water, air, medicines, sexually, mental and spiritual poisonings. Truth doesn't matter, because many can not even function any more. Awake who we can and pray for all.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +6

      Bishop Ngo Thuc consecrated 3 bishops (ordained catholic priests circa 1920's) using the trad rite of consecration.
      He also conditionally ordained & consecrated Bishop Datessen in 1983 in the trad rite of Holy Orders.
      He also ordained priests using trad rite of ordination in the early 80's.
      One of the priest's Bp.Thuc ordained in the trad rite,
      Fr.Bruno Schaeffer,was main priest at the SSPX church in Paris.
      Bishop Mendez consecrated Fr.Kelly using trad rite of consecration,in 1993.
      Fr.Kelly was ordained by Bishop Lefebvre in 1973.

    • @jasonconnelly1343
      @jasonconnelly1343 5 років тому +3

      Our Priest is from the Archbishop Thuc Kno line, they are sedevatacist, only Traditional Mass here.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +4

      @Jason Connelly I attend 2 Traditional chapels.
      One is Thuc line priest/bishop the other is
      SSPX-Resistance.
      Occasionally I have to attend SSPV.(Mendez line)

  • @ragejinraver
    @ragejinraver 5 років тому +7

    Archbishop Lefebvre was the one who open my eyes to the corruption of the church in the faith as a whole . I was beyond blessed this Lent to hear his audiobook letter the confused Catholics on this channel

  • @martinetti123
    @martinetti123 5 років тому +27

    Thank you very much - still 'in time', indeed!
    Please, if possible, publish the voice of Msgr. Lefebvre himself. His Catholic integrity is increasingly coming to the fore!

    • @QueenieQKat
      @QueenieQKat 5 років тому +1

      He did speak English and there are some recordings of him giving talks in English.

  • @latinritemass
    @latinritemass 5 років тому +5

    Thank you

  • @peternaus3934
    @peternaus3934 3 роки тому +2

    Prayers for the SSPX and the Catholic Church.

  • @caw7007
    @caw7007 2 роки тому

    Thank you for bringing information that helps me understand what happened to my church. I appreciate you! 💖🙏

  • @teresaniumata2742
    @teresaniumata2742 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you Archbishop Levferp.

  • @renata251975
    @renata251975 5 років тому +3

    Thank you.

  • @ssoldie5490
    @ssoldie5490 3 роки тому +1

    I pray to him and ask for his prayers to keep me strong in the Traditional Catholic Faith-for I do believe he is a Saint.

  • @lovesrlady2
    @lovesrlady2 4 роки тому +4

    This man was a Great PRIEST!

  • @suzanneguiho4882
    @suzanneguiho4882 4 роки тому +2

    Today, the only place where we have the certitude of the apostolic succession in priest is in the SSPX! Thank you ABP Lefebvre to have been faithfull to Tradition.

  • @laurayunque4296
    @laurayunque4296 5 років тому +5

    Just what the doctor ordered. I really needed to hear this today. Thank you, Anthony. This really helped me a lot.

  • @JeepGuy3
    @JeepGuy3 4 роки тому +2

    I just saw this. Surprised that I missed it. Thank you for this, especially someone that's been baptized and confirmed by the SSPX. Again, thank you for your support of the SSPX.

  • @traditionforever5038
    @traditionforever5038 5 років тому +8

    Standing up for Tradition and the TRUE Catholic Church is a must for faithful Catholics .
    We must NEVER embrace Moderism, liberalism, socialism, Communism or any other modern and new idea.
    We must proclaim the Social Reign of Jesus Christ the King of the world .
    Every knee must bend at His Holy Name.
    Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!

    • @Cjnw
      @Cjnw 5 років тому +1

      #LiberationTheology is *Non - Godless* Socialism under the blessing of the *Holy Trinity*

  • @carltonpoindexter2034
    @carltonpoindexter2034 5 років тому +9

    I have always believed that he was unjustly excommunicated and I remember him on an early Phil Donahue or Merv Griffen show. He had told the faithful to stop all contributions to stop the travesty changes. Needless to say, the sheeple complained, but ignored him, or left or gave in, and many cases it was pounded in. I predict that he will ultimately be canonized as a Confessor for the faith.

    • @zoomervince2457
      @zoomervince2457 4 роки тому +2

      He was never excommunicated. The excommunication was supposed to occur 'latae sententiae,' however, the 1982 Code of Canon Law adds so many exceptions to this rule that the rule itself essentially becomes null. The fact that Pope John Paul II said that he had incurred the excommunication does not matter because it simply does not correspond to reality.

    • @carltonpoindexter2034
      @carltonpoindexter2034 4 роки тому +1

      @@zoomervince2457 Thank you.

  • @thedon978
    @thedon978 5 років тому +2

    An excellent analysis of the present day situation. Thank you.

  • @DrJonathanGemmill
    @DrJonathanGemmill 5 років тому +1

    Thanks again for this one!!! God bless you 🙏❤💙⛪⚓.

  • @silviaibarra6771
    @silviaibarra6771 5 років тому +3

    Thank you so much.
    It is very inspiring the words of Levebvre.
    We are few who are living tradition and we are practicioners living inside this cahos church of today but with our hearts we will restored again.
    I was chosen to be the head of the third franciscan order in the south of Germany not eassy task as traditionalist but it was a call and like the Mother of God our protector Maria under the cross in calvary I stand to rebuild tradition from inside in this battle agains evil.
    Through us like soldiers of the Mother of God is hope and will be the light of the Holy true Catholic Church.
    Our Lady of the Rosary pray for us.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +4

      Check out Bishop Markus Ramolla at Our Lady of Victory in Cincinnati OH.
      He's in Germany this month serving his mission chapel.

    • @silviaibarra6771
      @silviaibarra6771 5 років тому +3

      Ethereal Catholic
      I will check thank you.
      Our Lady of the Rosary pray for us.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +2

      @@silviaibarra6771 You're welcome.
      He gives very good sermons and speaks German when he's in Germany.

    • @silviaibarra6771
      @silviaibarra6771 5 років тому +2

      Ethereal Catholic
      I will try to contact him.
      Thank you so much.
      Our Lady of Victory pray for us.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +1

      @@silviaibarra6771
      You're welcome.
      ourladyofvictorychapel.blogspot.com/p/chapel-and-mass-cen.html?m=1

  • @sebathadah1559
    @sebathadah1559 4 роки тому +1

    Pray the Consecration of the SSPX. God bless his Holy Warriors and the restoration of His Church.

  • @kimberlyriddell8574
    @kimberlyriddell8574 4 роки тому +1

    One of your best videos

  • @thevagabondsgambit
    @thevagabondsgambit 5 років тому +3

    Warrior of God! Knights of the Catholic Church! Men of the Vow/Men of Valor!!!! HOah!!!

  • @WestsidePredator
    @WestsidePredator 5 років тому +9

    When I look at the “heresy letter” all I can think is the fact Msgr. Lefebvre stood alone, and how slow and sloppy the rest of us were to wake up to the crisis of the Church.
    This says two things to me: 1, His Lordship was so much closer to Our Lord than anyone in his day. 2, that it is not Francis being accused of Heresy (or it shouldn’t be)
    It is Vatican 2 being accused. I accuse the Council! No mere man could be so monstrous to the Faith.

    • @WestsidePredator
      @WestsidePredator 5 років тому +7

      It goes without saying that within one year of my Baptism (31st March, 2018) I have turned fully toward Tradition, with an ardent love of Archbishop Lefebvre and I now attend the Masses of the SSPX.
      Tradidi Quod Et Accepi.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +3

      He DID NOT stand alone.
      There were many many many more traditional catholics beside the SSPX.
      Thuc line clerics
      SSPV (Mendez line)
      plus all of the priests ordained before July 1968 who kept tradition going before the SSPX even started.

    • @rob7800
      @rob7800 5 років тому +1

      @@etherealcatholic5711 without Archbishop Lefebrve LEADING the way we wouldn't be where we are now. Yes, diocesan priests, very few of them, kept going. But none had the pedigree of Archbishop Lefebrve.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому

      @@rob7800 He didn't lead the way rather he was one among many.
      Fr DePauw and Bp.Thuc had multiple degrees and had taught at Roman University's before the false council.
      He and Bp.Thuc made mistakes yet without them and to a lesser extent ,Bp.Mendez,we wouldn't have priests bishops Holy Mass and Sacraments.

  • @PeterShieldsukcatstripey
    @PeterShieldsukcatstripey 5 років тому +2

    What a perfect speech

  • @lordbluntwell2353
    @lordbluntwell2353 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for that

  • @zoomervince2457
    @zoomervince2457 4 роки тому +5

    On his tombstone were engraved the words of the apostle St. Paul: “Tradidi quod et accepi” (I have passed on what I have received - 1 Cor. 15:3).

  • @josephsimpson8961
    @josephsimpson8961 5 років тому +5

    The lesson: play the long game. The Lord's eternal plan alone rewards you with Heaven.

  • @DrCurriena
    @DrCurriena 5 років тому +2

    Right on

  • @PeterShieldsukcatstripey
    @PeterShieldsukcatstripey 5 років тому +1

    graces - participation with Our Lord Jesus Christ

  • @JeOrtiz1
    @JeOrtiz1 5 років тому +4

    If it wasn't for Archbishop Lefevre, the Vatican II sect would have killed all Roman Catholic traditions. Modernist would have succeeded in destroying thousands of years of unbroken Catholic tradition. Archbishop Lefevre should be elevated to sainthood in my opinion.

  • @bryanw2025
    @bryanw2025 4 роки тому +1

    These sermons are echoed by Vigano's recent letter on Vatican II in 2020. Also appropriate to revisit these sermons these times.

  • @anne-mariewoloszyn439
    @anne-mariewoloszyn439 5 років тому +4

    Anthony! Another phenomenal idea 💡 of doing a livestream with guests talking about circumstances concerning Archbishop Lefebre’s excommunication. I hope that I get it. I tried to become a patron of yours for a dollar a month, but I do not know if I succeeded. A show like this could help me moderate or change my negative 👎 opinion of this controversial Archbishop. Thanks for doing this. Enjoy 😊 your weekend. 🤓

  • @etherealcatholic5711
    @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +7

    You should do a short video on Bishops Thuc and Mendez plus their consecrations and ordinations using the traditional rite of Holy Orders.
    I didn't know until 2010 the major reason all
    3 Bishops conferred Holy Orders were to keep trad rite of Holy Orders active during the emergency.

    • @novellanurney1294
      @novellanurney1294 5 років тому +1

      This is aside note if you are unaware, Thuc consecrated the beginings of the Palmarian Catholic church. Which has its OWN POPE. Just a note you may wish to check into,at least for an interesting read start at Wikipedia, l couldn't link the wiki page for you for some reason but you can research from there if you wish. Christ is Risen! Happy Easter.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +6

      @@novellanurney1294 Bishop Thuc disowned Palmar De Troya.
      They went full blown insane a full 3 YEARS after he conferred Holy Orders.
      He conferred orders in Jan. 1975.
      They elected their own
      "Pope" in Aug.1978.
      1969-1978 they were a respectable traditional Catholic society full of doctors lawyers and catholic priests who were ordained before the new rite of holy orders circa July 1968.
      One of the Bishops he consecrated,Bishop Revaz,taught at the SSPX seminary in Econe.
      Bishop Lefebvre even served their community a few times with traditional rite of confirmation.
      3 of the 4 bishops Bishop Thuc consecrated left after Clemente was "elected Pope."

    • @novellanurney1294
      @novellanurney1294 5 років тому +1

      @@etherealcatholic5711,oh, I'm aware. Thuc just puzzles me immensely. I certainly understand a Bishop can not know how every consecration can turn out ( assuming he is of good will,so by that I would exclude many of some Bishops ( McCarrick for instance) as consecrating for reasons other than the good of Holy Mother Church. I do not believe Bishop Thuc was of ill will ,but perhaps hasty in certain situations . But, Fr. Cekada supports Thuc line consecrations, Fr. Williamson does not. Both were consecrated by Bishop Lefebvre. I' m just opining. It's an interesting situation. But , as we all know in the end Christ is King, Mary's Immaculate Heart will triumph . If we all are knowledgeable on our Faith and pray and sacrifice much we will make it through by the grace of God. Many a Catholic in our august history has never seen thier Bishop nor the Pope and rarely a Priest. Yet they stand as Saints in the Beatific vision. So,we will muddle through.

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +2

      @@novellanurney1294 Just like Bp.Lefebvre and Bp.Mendez,he (Bp.Thuc) made mistakes.
      Bp.Williamson does support the Thuc Consecrations/Ordinations.
      An article online shows his response to the question of Thuc and he maintains they're valid.
      Also,Bp.Williamson offered Holy Mass at a Thuc line chapel in Tampa last year and its on UA-cam.
      Immaculate Heart of Mary Catholic Church Tampa FL.
      If he denied validity of Thuc line,he wouldn't offer Holy Mass there nor would he refer to Fr.Fattore as
      "Father Emilio."

    • @etherealcatholic5711
      @etherealcatholic5711 5 років тому +1

      Read this article.
      www.fathercekada.com/2013/11/28/sspx-bishops-on-bishops-and-bishops/

  • @knightoftheimmaculata8876
    @knightoftheimmaculata8876 5 років тому +9

    Diabolical Disorientation all around, you must consecrate your life to Jesus through Mary to avoid being deceived. Not much truth is coming from the Voice of the church today!

    • @dosia1boby794
      @dosia1boby794 5 років тому +2

      Paul that is on biblical proportion!

    • @knightoftheimmaculata8876
      @knightoftheimmaculata8876 5 років тому +3

      Not many believe we are living through the darkest hour of the church that we have heard proclaimed year after year at mass with the readings, most have been lulled to sleep because they have ignored our Queen and mother.

  • @soundhound9189
    @soundhound9189 5 років тому +3

    Can we pray to Archbishop Levebvre for his help?

  • @mountainlover8167
    @mountainlover8167 5 років тому +3

    I would call it an illicit excommunication I think

  • @deborahtofflemire7727
    @deborahtofflemire7727 5 років тому +2

    When and how will you be live streaming?

    • @ReturnToTradition
      @ReturnToTradition  5 років тому +2

      I'm trying to get it scheduled now. I'll make a post when it does get scheduled. The livestream will be on UA-cam.

  • @davidstanton4578
    @davidstanton4578 2 роки тому

    A great brave man who set a standard,we hope we are on the good side of god ...chapter 23 tells us exactly what we are up against.... building up Vs pulling down....I've only been blessed around them ....pope pius X ...st of apostolic fortitude among many things ...but ther is a standard in Pius X and lefevbre leo13 infact a continuaty can be seen....ther is like a prepping period and then the storm breaks... This smoke of Satan is...(errors, confusion, infighting, devision,blindness)it's in alignment with fatima

  • @m-hayek1985
    @m-hayek1985 5 років тому +1

    I can appreciate both the FSSP and SSPX. However I still oppose the 88 consecrations based off conversations with a handful of priests form both sides and a ton of reflection. (Priests form Campos, Écône and FSSP)
    Where do you go to mass Anthony?

  • @josephalphonsus9731
    @josephalphonsus9731 5 років тому +2

    Compare Fellay, RR, and Bishop Donald Sanborn and Bishop Daniel Dolan. Tell me who the Catholic are

  • @josefschmeau4682
    @josefschmeau4682 5 років тому +1

    I’m confused
    If Pius VI saw it was the auto demolition
    Why did he go along with changing the Mass ?
    He’s Pope for crying out loud ?
    Was his “lament “ actually jest ???

  • @m-hayek1985
    @m-hayek1985 5 років тому +4

    I still believe Lefebvre shouldn’t have consecrated the bishops. It’s a extremely traditional principle that you can’t consecrate against papal decree no matter what. Btw I don’t like JP2 but that’s canonical fact.
    Did you know that when the Jesuits where unjustly suppressed in the 17th century by the pope they petitioned the Russian monarch to stop refusing the suppression. Old Jesuits asked the Russians to suppress them in accord with the popes unjust declaration because they knew they no longer had jurisdiction! This is absolute and very traditional.
    Bp Castro de Myers group have reconciled with Rome and now have jurisdiction. Canonical union and jurisdiction with the local bishop is extremely important and traditional.
    Bishop Antonio de Castro Myers group under Bishop Rifan have understood this and now have jurisdiction and faculties. They are spreading the tradition throughout Brazil now!
    One of there priests has a very traditional and orthodox youtube channel with 90k subs. He is very strict on modesty and old fashioned in the best way! Like St Vianney ! His name is Padre Leonardo. Pax

    • @tamgonzalez751
      @tamgonzalez751 5 років тому +7

      Mises Hiyek- if he didn't consecrate The Bishop's we would not have the traditional Latin mass in this time (it would ceased / disappear forever). We would only have clown mass that mean the devil won. I believe Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was inspired by the Holy Spirit . Traditional Latin mass is the only one is offering up to make reparation for our sins that pleasing to God not new Mass. Saint Padre Pio once said it is better for the world to survive without the sun then without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass ( the holy sacrifice of the mass is very powerful in Latin. The devil hate the Latin Mass. Why you think it drive Bergoglio nuts). I have never been to Traditional Latin Mass but hope one day that God will restore everything and Latin mass will be available everywhere for everyone to attend with reverence.

    • @m-hayek1985
      @m-hayek1985 5 років тому +2

      Tam Gonzalez That’s up to debate. There are groups with normal jurisdiction who preserved the traditional mass without the consecrations. All the ‘approved’ groups preserve tradition without there own bishops and they are the ones training diocesan priests to say the true mass.
      There are about 4,000 diocesan priests who say the traditional mass. These diocesan priests where trained to say this mass by groups that have normal jurisdiction ex: FSSP.
      I like the SSPX; without them there would be few traditional priests today. It’s only the jurisdiction issue that is concerning. Hopefully they will get regularization.
      I’m curious, where do you live?

    • @NelkeRobert
      @NelkeRobert 5 років тому +6

      @@m-hayek1985 and do you really believe that the Church's officials would establish the FSSP to save the Mass, really? I don't want to judge anyone in specific, but from the Church's "mainstream" perspective, FSSP was made only to prevent the expansion of FSSPX (and to . Even Pope John Paul II admitted year later (1989) his disappointment because of people who are still attached to the "old forms of cult". All of you guys don't even know how hard it is for me, I am from Poland and lived my childhood in the atmosphere of almost divine cult of JP2. Beginning with the 70s (maybe earlier, nevermind), heresies were so common in the Church, often proclaimed by Her Pastors. What they did about that? Barely nothing, those heretics (without even judging their motivations to do so) were made bishops, even cardinals. The so called excommunication of Archbishop Lefevre was proclaimed by the lengthy document just 3 days after those Consecrations. How it is possible? Easy, it was written much earlier and just waiting for the moment. Think about it everytime when someone says to you that Church doesn't have tools to react on heresy or anything like that. Of course, Lefevre wasn't even a heretic nor schismatic, was not even disobedient according to 1983 Canon Law. But you know, the pope from my homeland was disobedient himself in the 50s and later saying the Mass in front of the people and in the vernacular, such a great example of obedience...
      The biggest motivator for many bishops to start at least pretend that they obey the Summorum pontificum is that little PX chapel in the vicinity. Huge thanks to Pope Benedict for that, I mean, we have Quo primum, dogmas from Session XXII and VII Canon 13 of Trent and the infallible Auctorem fidei, but yeah, it can be useful in the postVat2 era where no one cares. Nevertheless, it is not fully obeyed anywhere besides the IBP and if someone disagrees with my, we can go with this document sentence by sentence.
      Now, why all of that indults use the '62 Missal? Because Archbishop Lefevre said so, not because some guys in charge wanted to do so. Also, although FSSP is on some "leash" when coming to some doctrinal issues and for example one Polish priest from FSSP goes absolutely bananas, being a much greater modernist than vast majority of NO, they don't have a bishop, so you know, better be loyal and silent about the heresies. To make things clear, I respect many good SSP priests, not saying that Catholic Tradition subsists (I love those vat2 jokes ;) only in SSPX, not saying that everyone from SSPX is a saint, just saying that we wouldn't talk about this right now without archbishop Lefevre and bishop de Castro Mayer.

    • @m-hayek1985
      @m-hayek1985 5 років тому +1

      Robert Nelke I’m NOT anti SSPX it’s just the jurisdiction issue. The ICRSS are another good example

    • @m-hayek1985
      @m-hayek1985 5 років тому

      Robert Nelke what polish FSSP priest are you referring to? Vat 2 jokes are funny.

  • @kingofthebeatles
    @kingofthebeatles 5 років тому

  • @pocketvelero
    @pocketvelero 5 років тому

    Are you a patron of the SSPX?

  • @Rittlesleo
    @Rittlesleo 5 років тому

    Did the Archbishop think that the NO Mass is invalid?

  • @dosia1boby794
    @dosia1boby794 5 років тому +1

    Roy Shoeman testimony -you tube

  • @davidstanton4578
    @davidstanton4578 2 роки тому

    Its all true they are all at our backs...the pope's...sedes don't understand us ....rec and resist ..or fright and flight under a rock, wher all is truely lost ; all is said in this letter ...clarity is something we try and protect....bishop Aquinas is a strong little soldier...we won't abandon the ship so fortitude is key....that's true its prophetic now vigano tredds in his footsteps.... slightly ...don't let anyone darken lefevbre he was right and not a ... deserter of the field....but la Sallet,and Fatima wher clambering in their ears of many of them... lefevbre was just the front man brave enough to make a stand wich was .. certainly nesacery...a great model for seminarians aspiring to the roots of the faith ..and Fortitude

  • @carledwardvincent7131
    @carledwardvincent7131 4 роки тому

    I've never heard or read this speech, and nevertheless he reaches all the conclusions I have, and then more. Man, this is sad.
    (For the record, I've never been to an FSSPX Mass or have associated with them in any way.)

  • @fabrizio483
    @fabrizio483 5 років тому

    Wasn't Lefebvre excommunicated because he consecrated more Bishops the Holy See allowed him?

    • @ReturnToTradition
      @ReturnToTradition  5 років тому +5

      He was "excommunicated" for consecrating bishops at all. I doubt the validity of the excommunication because clearly there was and still remains a state of emergency in the Church, which canonically permits the consecrations.

    • @fabrizio483
      @fabrizio483 5 років тому

      @@ReturnToTradition I see. And has it been lifted ever since?

    • @ReturnToTradition
      @ReturnToTradition  5 років тому +1

      @@fabrizio483 Against the Bishops he consecrated, yes.

    • @carltonpoindexter2034
      @carltonpoindexter2034 5 років тому +2

      @@ReturnToTradition Joan of Arc was exconmunicated and look what happened to her! Thanks again, Anthony.

    • @ReturnToTradition
      @ReturnToTradition  5 років тому +1

      @@carltonpoindexter2034 He's often compared to St. Athanasius due to the extreme similarity between the two

  • @anne-mariewoloszyn439
    @anne-mariewoloszyn439 5 років тому +1

    Anthony, when you are preparing for your live stream show, please address if you see it and are able, the inconsistencies that are present in Marcel Lefebre's actions and words. In the first sermon, he says he has always fought the errors of Vatican 2. Yet there is evidence that he signed the documents of Vartican 2 for himself and another bishop. If he really thought that Vatican 2 was in error why did he just refuse to sign the documents, walk out of the Council and go home? In the second sermon, I do not understand or accept his vision of "Eternal Rome."
    I an grateful that Marcel Lefebre helped to keep alive the Traditional Latin Mass as well as the traditional sacraments. They should have never been suppressed. But through his own words in these homilies, it once again becomes clear to me that he is not another St. Athanasius. He is a modern day Origen or Tertullian. He ultimately appears to be an opportunist. He knew that he was making himself another Pope by consecrating those bishops. And it appears that is what he wanted even though he proclaims the opposite in the second sermon . His words in both homilies betray him and he appears to be a liar.
    Even though you do not agree with anything I said, but you can see my logic, please try to address this. It would go a long way in helping me to have a more balanced opinion of Marcel Lefebre. Thanks. 🤓

    • @rob7800
      @rob7800 5 років тому +1

      Wow. This is the most basic accusation against the holy Archbishop I've ever seen in my life. You win the internet today Anne Marie

    • @CD-kc4xv
      @CD-kc4xv 5 років тому +2

      Anne Marie, I applaud your willingness to state your view & respectfully ask a simple question to try and understand and get a more balanced view.
      It is sad, but not surprising, to see people spew venom at anyone who doesn't wholeheartedly agree with the implication that Lefebvre succeeded in saving Christs Church where the promise of Christ and the Holy Ghost failed.

  • @hornatham1487
    @hornatham1487 5 років тому +1

    Bishop Bernard Fellay is the modern day Judas vice vie Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre tragically .

    • @troykiernan9329
      @troykiernan9329 5 років тому +1

      I dont think the good Archbishop lefevre would agree with you, what do traditionalists do when asked to assemble a firing squad, they unfortunately form a circle!

  • @theresastroud5979
    @theresastroud5979 4 роки тому +1

    If things are lax in the Church or left leaning, I think it is good to address that, but the Pope is still the head of the Church and chosen under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
    Are you saying there were no authentic popes since Pope Pius X? That is heresy!
    Pope Pius XIII was canonized, Pope Paul VI, Pope John Paul II are also saints. You, “Pius X”
    people are being like Luther, breaking with the church, causing schism and confusion. As in Luthers time, things in the Church were not Orthodox, but instead of staying and helping the Church, he chose to split with the Church because of a bad Pope. Look what happened there!!!
    It’s not up to you to scrutinize how holy or perfect the Church is, but to bring it to her attention. I have a feeling that
    Pope Pius X is looking down on you and shaking his head, “no”.

  • @ijp7578
    @ijp7578 5 років тому +3

    Thank you!