Testing Out Every White Ink | THE ULTIMATE WHITE INK SHOWDOWN
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- Опубліковано 28 лют 2019
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Sakura Gelly Roll amzn.to/3m7zWCL
Uni-Ball Signo amzn.to/3diSRqj
Posca Marker amzn.to/3u7JgcJ
Derwent Graphik amzn.to/3w8egv2
Pilot Super Colour
Sharpie Paint Marker (oil and water based) amzn.to/3swKhdH
Ink Pots
FW Artists' Acrylic Ink amzn.to/3syDtwf
Winsor & Newton Drawing Ink amzn.to/3m18TZF
Dr. Ph Martin's Bleed Proof White amzn.to/39prc5P
Liquitex Acrylic Ink amzn.to/31pbxiu
Amsterdam Acrylic Ink amzn.to/3m19avF
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I don’t know if anyone else discovered this; but if I do white lines in coloring pencil first, then go over in white ink, it looks immaculate. No bleeding or mixing of colors and the lines look sharp af
I will try this! Thank you.
Thanks for this awesome idea
Thank you 🤯
Great info! Thank you!
Thank you for this wonderful tip! Makes mucho sense ! Thank you from Australia
Dr. P H Martin has two white ink/paints: This Bleedproof, and Pen White. Pen White is the more dilute one that will compete well with other products in this test (though you may still find yourself regularly adding a bit of water). Bleedproof is like a concentrate, which is thick enough to use as a correction fluid or Whiteout. But you can certainly use Bleedproof as an ink-with-dip-pen or paint-with-brush (e.g. for linework or adding highlights), if you dilute it first.
I'm a calligrapher and use the Bleed Proof White often on darker/pigmented papers, with both broad-edge and pointed pen work. I also add a drop of ox gall liquid to it to keep it flowing through the nib.
The PH Martin's definitely works best if you add a few drops of distilled water and stir it. You can just add a few drops at the top and kind of create a top layer of fluid ink and keep the bottom the regular consistency.
I formerly refered to this as ink as well but was recently informed it's actually a form of very thick gouache-like paint. Yes to the added water, I've had my jar for quite a while and love it for highlights know my watercolor paintings. I just add the needed any of water each time.
@@InLiquidColor I normally use a brush with this product anyway.
@Artastinoble Who sells it as ink? Where on the bottle does it call it ink??
The name of the product is Dr. Ph. Martin's Bleedproof White. The Dr. Ph website specifically states, "Dr. Ph. Martin's Bleedproof White is an opaque watercolor for covering dye colors, markers, and designer colors. It is not intended for mixing. Comes in a 1.0 oz (30 ml) glass jar."
@Artastinoble Yea, dude. That is akin to gouache. Gouache is an opaque watercolor.
Thanks for the in-depth review. I actually (mostly) like the Dr. Ph Martin bleed proof white. I water it down and use it with my dip pen, especially over watercolor, and haven't had any problems with it over w/c. However, I did use it in an art journal on top of acrylic paint. After waiting several hours for the ink to dry, I closed the journal. The "bleed proof" ink caused the pages to stick together and it caused the acrylic to bleed through to the reverse of the page, wrecking the artwork on the reverse.
My issue with the Uni-ball pens is that they are a total waste of money because they dry out when fully capped and stored on their side for even a couple of weeks.
The dr ph Martin’s bleed proof white is really good, really pigmented, it comes in a “condensed” form, kinda in a gauche formula? It’s def best used with a brush, which means you can water it down, and it won’t really lose any opacity. It dries down very quickly, sometimes if you left it for too long it turns solid, but you can very easily reactivate it with water, it fully revives. Another very good thing about it is that sometimes with white inks, it dries down shiny, or textured, but the bleed proof white DOENT DO THAT!!! I picked it up in school taking fashion illustration, my teacher recommended it and it definitely changed my whole entire life!
Oh also, sometimes you wanna mix your white ink into your watercolor, but you can’t do that with acrylic inks like you can with bleed proof white!! Just get a fine tip brush. It’s better to use a brush anyways, you get more control and your lines are tapered!
As someone who is always hunting for the best pens (especially in white), I really appreciate these videos!
So pleased you made those comments about the paint pens. I always have these spillage issues but have thought it was just me using them in some incorrect way. Great video. Really helpful.
I'm surprised you didn't choose the W&N Drawing Ink. It worked well on toned paper and over watercolor, had great opacity, and only had slight issues with bleeding. I think I was with you up to the very end. I loved the video, though. It was well done!
Bleedproof white, needs to be diluted for dip pen. The ink can be diluted to produce extremely fine hairlines (even for mapping nibs) that I love for calligraphy. It is better than the rest of the inks imo, but it's not smudge proof white, nor is it water proof.
(when loading inks, it's better to make sure the hole in the nib is covered with ink to make sure enough is on, give it a light shake to dispense any excess ink, then write with nib. I'm not sure what nib you are using, but it seems to be very large, so you probably have to dip a bit further to cover the hole. As with any acrylic ink, the sediments tend to sink pretty fast, so to get the highest pigment per dip you can try using a brush to stir it around, then load the nib with the brush. it's tedious! lol)
Thanks! I have just started using
a dip pen - and not very successfully. I think your tip is what I have been missing - to make sure the hole in the nib is covered. I will try again!😊
Oh hey! Like a year ago I did a vid where I tested a whole buttload of pens and it's AWESOME seeing that there's verrrrrrry little overlap between our two. Largely because you did those potted inks, but some of your pens are ones I haven't even seen before! Way cool that you've now introduced me to more materials than I've seen-the internet is great!
Back in the day, I used to use that PH martin's guy when I basically only did black and white inking stuff and didn't also use watercolors. One thing I really love about your tests is that when they don't perform awesome, you don't say THIS IS A PIECE OF TRASH, you give it the benefit of the doubt and attempt to adjust your methods, like using the brush for PH Martin's and re-shaking the FW. Really, really appreciate your style of testing and that you took the time to do such a varied batch of stuff.
If you do this test again, an addition you may want to try is finding more specific pigment watercolor that tends to blend with the inks randomly (like your blue one did), for me, I usually use Sennelier's Opera Rose, which is actually the reason I did my big test showdown because I love that color and love white pens and didn't know what to do when my ol' faithful uniball pen kept pinkifying on all my pieces. I'd like to know specifically what that blue was so I can add it to my future trials, if you still remember it!
T dr PH Martins is original use by designers and cartoonists to correct ink work and is intended to be used with a brush diluted to a suitable con sistancy. I hasve used it for many years for my illustration and cartoon work. It is bleed proof so you can work over it again once it is dried. Finally, you have to ensure it is dried well , before working over it again.
I hope you enjoy the new video! Let me know if there are any other white inks you think I should test out!
Montana ang molotow white markers
I just found my perfect white ink. Pigmented inks from Herbin. I got it in a set with gold, copper and silver and they’re just so amazing quality. So now I can write and draw with min dip pen and never retrace a line again!
Thank you! You just saved me so much time and money trying to figure out which one is best.
Thanks so much for this!!! Gonna grab me a few uniballs!
I literally just wanted to see some white ink (for no artistic purposes) but I still stuck around for the whole video
I guess I'm still quite fascinated with art despite how long it's been since I used to do it lol
Great demonstration of products👍🏻 thanks!
great video! also, the graphix pen consistency reminds me of a liquid whiteout pen 😂
Very well done. Helpful and informative. Thank you.
Thank you thank you thank you. You have saved us folks a stack of time and cash plus frustration and self esteem destroying bad products that are being sold at the moment with no return policies. All the best. I have subscribed !
Thanks for uploading this video M.M. The video is insightful. Was always curious to try out this particular art technique but wasn't sure which white ink pen to purchase. I used to use whitener pens/white correct pens previously and didn't know the difference 😂😂😂
Great job. That was a good review. I'm getting the Uni-ball Signo.
Thanks for the video! I always look for the best way to avoid the white paint mixing with watercolour and your tests have helped a lot
Solid review. Just what I needed 👌
Uniball signo and gelly roll dry out. I store the with caps and they dry out. I'm so tired of buying then using them for a month and they dry out can't get them flowing again. Wish one of these companies would develop a good opaque formula. Uggh
That’s my problem too…they dry out so quickly!
This was super helpful ! Thanks so much 🙃
Absolutely invaluable. Personally, I've had trouble with FW in the last several years, finding the ink less opaque for correcting black and white comics pages than I'd prefer. I actually find the PH Martins very useful for deleting large blotches of spilled ink, but not ideal for fine lines.Thanks for this!
Hi M.M, I was looking for a video on how to use Copic White in jar (the stuff without the brush... not the kind that looks like a bottle of nail polish) and I landed here by mistake. But now that I’ve seen this I want to buy everything you sampled. Fab video. The inks are all so different. You can never have too many paints or inks in your drawer. I’m about 10 months too late... but this video is exactly what I needed to watch. Thanks. I subbed to your channel.
I use the Dr Ph Martin on my watercolors. I haven't tested the other potted inks yet. I use the Uni-Ball signo pen too. Great pen! Love this video! Just subscribed. 🙂
Great video. Looking for some white ink to replace the Presto correction fluid I'm currently using on my ink drawings. I'm still a novice inker so I make plenty of mistakes but I'm not entirely happy with the Presto. Good to know there are more options out there. Thanks for posting this.
Thank you for this.... doing a set of watercolour pictures (waves from above) and was having a nightmare with inks. This video was just what I needed. :-)
Thanks a lot for such a wonderful video!
"EVERY' white ink... lol.. missed kuretake.. the best one!
Danke, das war sehr hilfreich ❤
Very superb explanation & helpful.
This video has been so helpful!! I’m trying to trace over my light graphite sketch lines with an opaque white, and I’m not having success. I bought a pack of the Sakura jelly rolls, and they’re crap at hiding the graphite. I’m going to try one of the pot links that you demoed. Thank you so much!! 👋😎❤️
Hi ! Great testing, very helpful :) silly question maybe but what about using white gouache with a very small brush ? Would it be more opaque ?
Excellent! Thank you.
thank you, this was very helpful
fyi, Dr Martin's Bleedoroof White is not an ink, it's an opaque watercolor generally used for correcting ink drawings. It is made to be used with a brush and far too thick to be used as an ink. Also, as it is a watercolor, though dry, it can be reactivated with water or ink.
Does this mean that it counts as gouache?
Great point about it being reactivated with water! I am a calligrapher and when used on envelopes it can smear very easily
A tip for using the paint pens that you have to press down. Have scrap paper for pressing down and usually that stops the globing problem, it can still happen but I rarely have blob issues when I have scrap paper.
sweet 100 like :3 congrats
I accidentally painted a part in blue which is supposed to be white, and I used the uniball pen to paint over it. Works perfectly! Highly recommend. Love their silver and gold pens too
thanks for the info!
Doc martins white is best split between 2 jars and watered down by a quarter and really stirred thoroughly before every use…its great with watercolour or any oens except dont put it in a parallel oen but can dip an emoty oarallel pen. In it
wow.. thanks for the good review. very helful
Great video. Probably the most important thing to keep in mind is what the ink is made of will have a huge effect on what's already on paper. If you use water-based ink on top of watercolor, it will pick up the watercolor and mess up your artwork. So always make sure you check the chemical composition of what you're getting. Also anything thats solvent based, like alcohol inks might screw up an acrylic illustration. Check the labels and always test it out on a scrap piece of paper before you commit 👍
You can definitely use the Dr PH Martins with a technical pen with no problems.
I recommend molotown acrylic marker. I love the maner that function.
will these go over pencil drawings or no because of all the waxy pigment?
Try Fabre castle white ink marker it’s great
Thanks for the video! Very insightful ! I wanted to check if you can colour over the white pot inks with colour pencils? I am basically looking for a white ink that will help to camouflage black lines of an illustration for colouring purposes. Wondering if you could advise on this? Thanks 🙏🏼
From experience, lots of the the inks won’t like other materials being put on top of them and if they do the material reacts differently where the ink is. You might be better off with something like watercolour ground. It’s basically watercolour gesso but it mimics paper better.
I have magic colour acrylic inks would be good to see how they compare I also have molotow markers
I don't use inks for the purpose that you do, I mostly use them for painting miniature models, mostly figures and for this use, the FW Artists' Acrylic Ink and the Liquitex Acrylic Inks are about the best and in Australia cost round the same amount $10 - $11 AUD per pot, do you have a preferance between these two brands and if so why?
For pen, I used to have uniball signo since 2005 and for the whiten ink was sakura poster color
Thanks for this review it helped me allot. I wanna get back at inking and i wanna participate to inktober and i go whit the dr Martins bleed proof white inkt.
I havent seen the video yet but I am going with liquitex. Also molotow are missing and they are really good.
Thank you!!!
why my g, maru and saji pen not works with white ink? I have white maxon comic ink and winsor e newton white ink and I can't draw white line on black (black kaimei ink 360ml)
I wonder if you use a special nib? I tried the golden air brush
Ink, and it didn't flow very well
Kuretake ZIG Cartoonist White Ink 30? Also recommends diluting with water for right consistency.
Which will work in acrylic?
The Quest of the Ultimate White Pen ! I have all the differents pens you tested and I can't use any because they all are awfull. Even the one who was first white, when you try a week later, the ink is dry and dead. Now, I use white acrylic. :(
(Hope you understand, I don't speak very well english)
Can any of these inks be used in a fountain pen?
Dr Martens and Amsterdam are supposed to be diluted before use, that's why you couldn't dip and go!
I was looking for something better than Liquitex acrylic white for a dipping pen (more opaque for drawing on black paper) but according to your test it doesn't look like there is one...
They say Arteza white gel pen is the way to go. Is good on color pencil, water colors, markers, oils and pastels.
Yes theirs is the best. I have the full set. So much better than anyone else’s.
so nice ❤️😍
I'm a new person to graphite drawing and I bought some pencil sets that have a Highlight Pen that says chatum 0.8mm.... when I first removed the cap...a little white ink came out. But that's all??? I have no idea if they come loaded or if I have to fill them myself?? It might be a lame question but..... it is what it is.... anybody???
The best is the sakura gelly roll I ever tried it it is amazing and right now I have the daler rowney ink white I guess I chose the right one😂😂
Pentel Presto correction pen and Molotow paint pen
what about kuretake white ink 30, kuretake zig white brush pen and copic white ink
Thank you.
This pen's ink gel or ballpoint ink ?
I prefer Zig Kuratakes white ink. Water based. I use it to paint clouds. Water it down some and build up.
nice!
I am surprised that UniBall Signo works better in this video, I have to repeatedly shake mine to make it work.
Dr. Ph Martin's has another white ink called Pen White as well. I wonder if that would be better for a dip pen. At least that's what the name would suggest.
Uni ball signos 🤘
Faber castell PITT white is another one...
My pilot white paint was buggy too
Can any of the white inks be used in a fountain pen, or are they too prone to clog? Also, do you have a technique for reviving the flow on the pens you prefered?
As a general rule, white inks can never be used in fountain pens because they are always pigment, not dye based.
Most of the time if something isn’t flowing well I’ll dip/clean it with 99% IPA.
@@studioofmm actually De Atramentis (sp?) makes a Document White ink for fountain pens
I don't know why but I don't like using disposable pens. They only hold 2ml of ink at best and they're constantly running out so you have to buy loads. I only use black and white pen for art. For colour, I use acrylic paint (or ink) but I'll apply it with a fine brush, not a pen.
For black I use black acrylic ink in a dipping pen or permanent (lightfast) black in a fountain pen or else I use a brushpen loaded with Indian ink. For white, I use a dipping pen. I've tried paint markers but those are only good with a broad tip, otherwise they gunk up.
No Decocolor?
where i can buy your stilo glass pen? Thans :D
With regard to most questions, Google Search is your friend.
The pilot super color is made for plastic
My Signo pen dried up really fast. It wasn't worth mail ordering.
Uniball Signos are a huge disappointment. Always the tip will dry up, clog up long before they are out of ink. I live in an extremely dry climate and feel it must be that as so many others rave about them. I have spent so much on new ones to no avail. I use the extra fine tip Sharpie water based paint pen and it give far better coverage than your test version. It has never been messy for me, but the extra fine tip ones are not easy to find.
i just ordered the pilot one😭
I've always been a fan of the Uniball pens generally, they are really nice writing pens and are also very comfortable to use. btw, the only one I think you were missing from this is the liquid correction pens as they can be pretty good for this purpose, also,a slight improvement you could have made with this comparison would have been to have used a brush on all the bottle inks as opposed to just the one brand.
Is there any permanent marker white ink available? plz ping me
No because permanent markers use a translucent type of ink which just wouldn’t work in white. The closest you’ll get to that type of product would be a paint marker.
The pH Martin is not really an ink. It is an opaque watercolor more like gouache
Pébéo white pen is as bad as Pilot. My favourite is Molotow One4All pens. But I don't know how it perform on water colour. I only do acrylic.
You missed rotring white ink
aren't all of these technically paints? I didn't know it was possible to get white ink.
I don't think they are necessarily paints, but my terminology might be off. It's not an ink in the way of a dye, that indeed is impossible with white. White ink is a suspension of white pigment.
It is in a lot of ink brands different in performance from their other inks, I know that Winsor and Newton at least do mention that their silver, gold and white are different, not sure about other brands.
The micro was very disappointing.
funny video hahahahaha
I have the pilot pen and the result is the same, it’s a useless product, waste of money!
It is not too helpful when you only treat premium white out as opposed to the most available.