RemoteID Cloaking Device How-To! Spoofer generates fake RemoteID signatures!

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 571

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff Рік тому +85

    It's not a spoofer, it's a RID receiver tester 😀

    • @KTPDAILY
      @KTPDAILY Рік тому +3

      BEST COMMENT!!! YES!!!

  • @CarbonGlassMan
    @CarbonGlassMan Рік тому +243

    So if everyone hooked these up to their cars so it was always powered, it would overwhelm the system, making a drone as hard to locate as needle in a stack of needles.

    • @dave882
      @dave882 Рік тому +49

      My car will be broadcasting by the end of the night.

    • @richardamiss7000
      @richardamiss7000 Рік тому +29

      In theory, the broadcast could happen from a smartphone and only an app would be required.

    • @dropzone01
      @dropzone01 Рік тому +8

      Well yes and no. This still hard encodes the GPS location so it would still only show the location you program. Your idea would work better by having the GPS location fed by an attached GPS module. That way it would always be broadcasting the spoofed ID in the area you are at.

    • @theskyisminefpv1218
      @theskyisminefpv1218 Рік тому +4

      Haystack, no? needle in a haystack

    • @dropzone01
      @dropzone01 Рік тому +16

      @@theskyisminefpv1218 I think they said needle in a stack of "needles" bcz they would all be the same. Hiding the Drone around a bunch of (fake) drones rather than trying to hide it in a pile of something else. But yes, I think haystack would also work and get the point across.

  • @ojsh_
    @ojsh_ Рік тому +67

    Are remote ID serial numbers intended to be publicly available info? If so, the system has major security risk - if anyone can take that ID and use in a spoofing program to simulate your aircraft. No remote ID based evidence will ever hold up in court. Presume this could be the downfall of the whole system?

    • @benargee
      @benargee Рік тому +13

      It's so dumb. Identification should only be accessable to authorities. People should only be able to report drones anonymously and the authorities can reveal the information and use their discretion whether there are any laws being broken. Civilians should not be able to have the info to be vigilantes.
      As for legitimacy when spoofing exists, if cryptography is used to sign beacon packets, legitimacy could be verified. But again, cryptography should also protect the privacy of the drone pilot from civilians. The pilot database should not be public either.

    • @knight907
      @knight907 Рік тому +13

      @@benargeeThere’s nothing in the ATSM standard for RID signals to incorporate cryptographic signatures. The mere fact that this exists completely invalidates RID as evidence of anything.

    • @crisnmaryfam7344
      @crisnmaryfam7344 Рік тому +2

      People use these in homes for "smart home" automation also. Led strips, Light sensors and the works. It wouldn't surprise me if some of that is popping up to some people as "drones" lmfao.

    • @darkstarrtech
      @darkstarrtech Рік тому +4

      @@crisnmaryfam7344 You really your joke is funny enough to post on three different comments?

    • @pyalot
      @pyalot Рік тому +6

      @@knight907 wow, not only are the IDs made public, there's also no cryptographic signing over timestamp, location and ID? I had a feeling the system was dumb, but this dumb... speechless.

  • @madhtrr
    @madhtrr Рік тому +23

    I'm gonna find the nearest hornet's nest and set it as a ground station. 😁

  • @Nine_883
    @Nine_883 Рік тому +18

    Gotta love Open Source! Good job Arduino dudes. Can’t wait to see how this evolves and it will! Set it out somewhere in the general area, but not near where you are standing.

  • @PilotPlater
    @PilotPlater Рік тому +54

    The fact the esp can transmit the rid protocol gives me hope. Much cheaper than off the shelf modules to start, and I could see a variation of this project which shows the required rid information but with some obfuscated or filtered information - a happy medium between compliance and noncompliance perhaps?

    • @lavachemist
      @lavachemist Рік тому +4

      It kind of sucks that you can't just buy/lease a RID transponder code from the FAA, because then you could easily make a DIY RID module and comply.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому +1

      @@lavachemist it will be the FAA trying to prevent things like this. If they only let authorised manufacturers have a code then they can control it more.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      It is a good idea if they allow it. They may make it a requirement to have a certified remote ID module from specific manufacturers with no tampering.

    • @jaysonrees738
      @jaysonrees738 Рік тому +8

      The FAA has already shown that they only want authorized "tamperproof" modules to be allowed as compliant. Despite the fact that DIY'ers have shown that they can easily spoof or even perfectly replicate the functions for less, that's just too cheap and easy for the likes of such bureaucrats.

    • @lijath
      @lijath Рік тому +1

      Only if we had a dump of all of the codes, oh wait we already do.

  • @Guitarist33764
    @Guitarist33764 Рік тому +13

    JB, love your content. I am watching the evolution of RID. There is definitely going to be/is a market for Karen Countermeasures. That's all I will say, to go on, it would cut into hours of flying time.... Keep up the great content!

  • @ukrainewarroom8410
    @ukrainewarroom8410 Рік тому +9

    You can easily run this off a solar panel & small battery and then put them in lots of places...
    Not like they cost a lot.

  • @Nilloc777
    @Nilloc777 Рік тому +4

    What a great use for all the esp’s I have left over from making slime trackers! Thanks

  • @vonSchwartzwolfe
    @vonSchwartzwolfe 11 місяців тому +6

    From what I've been seeing the RID modules only have a range of about 200 to 500 ft from the aircraft. I can see the ones with the 200 ft range becoming the best sellers.😎👍

  • @juancarlos4
    @juancarlos4 8 місяців тому

    Man !!! I don’t understand half of what you explained but it sounds so cool !! All I understand there’s a way to get everybody’s nose off of my drone hobby, GREAT CONTENT my man !!! Keep it up cause I’m going to get to know your ideas and put them into practice . Thank you!!!

  • @llIIllIlllIIlI
    @llIIllIlllIIlI Рік тому +10

    ADSB isn't on a frequency set aside for private use like Bluetooth and Wifi are. I am pretty sure the reason you can't spoof ADSB legally is that you can't broadcast legally on those frequencies unless it is for ADSB, which has been blessed by the FCC as well as the FAA. The FAA does not own the frequencies at play here and likely has over stepped their authority by co-opting them for air traffic control.

    • @enginerdy
      @enginerdy Рік тому +4

      Transmitting “harmful interference” is illegal no matter what band it’s on. Playing with fire here, moreso than flying a drone without an ID.

  • @Scout339th
    @Scout339th 21 день тому

    This is perhaps the most legally miachevious video ive ever seen you post. I love it.

  • @glennalan
    @glennalan Рік тому

    Love your videos! Very informative. Just subscribed !

  • @gemsquashthg
    @gemsquashthg Рік тому +1

    the silent finger flicking at the end was great, haha.

  • @conorstewart2214
    @conorstewart2214 Рік тому +16

    This is a good first attempt. It can and should get a lot better than this. It would probably be worth them switching to ESP32 since they are more powerful. You can get ones with external antennas and there shouldn’t be any issues adding a GPS module to it. A potentially good board to use would be the XIAO with the ESP32C3. It has an external antenna and is tiny. If size isn’t important then any ESP32 board with external antenna would be a good option. ESP32 boards also have Bluetooth so you could create a phone app to alter settings like GPS coordinates, number of drones, etc if you wanted.

    • @MakerOnTheMove
      @MakerOnTheMove Рік тому

      According to the github page, it looks like they've already added ESP32 support.

    • @underwoodblog
      @underwoodblog 5 місяців тому

      There are ESP32 boards with a GPS module on board.

  • @StompyFPV
    @StompyFPV Рік тому +1

    A nice 3 pack was just purchased... Thanks JB

  • @Thunderbyrd.
    @Thunderbyrd. Рік тому +3

    Finally a product related to RID I can get behind.

  • @FPVenius
    @FPVenius Рік тому +3

    FYI, the Usage section of the readme shows how to enter your own GPS coords (as of the time of this writing.) TL;DR: within 2 minutes of turning on the device, go to a local URI and enter your coordinates. After 2 minutes, it starts spoofing.

  • @shanesdiy
    @shanesdiy Рік тому +19

    Install that on the aircraft, should increase the range if up in the air. The NodeMCU doesn't use much power and it's pretty small, power it from the flight battery, add an antenna.

    • @MrCottonmouth
      @MrCottonmouth Рік тому +4

      Looks like I'll be using this for my remote id😆

    • @MrCottonmouth
      @MrCottonmouth Рік тому +3

      And it's way cheaper than a rid unit

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      @@MrCottonmouth it depends if you are allowed to make your own or if you have to buy an FAA certified one. If you have to buy an FAA certified one then there is no point trying to make your own because it will be as bad as flying without one.

    • @jaysonrees738
      @jaysonrees738 Рік тому +4

      @@conorstewart2214 Technically it would probably be worse if they caught you, but how many cops do you know of that can tell the difference between a real RID module and a fake? You could probably point at your RX and they'd believe you. Even an FAA official might not know without looking up what's authorized.

    • @MrCottonmouth
      @MrCottonmouth Рік тому

      I realize this may not be a good idea, but it's fun to imagine.

  • @Wilhuff_T
    @Wilhuff_T Рік тому +1

    I remember the wild west in 2013 with my Blade Qx 350 flying with that old gopro. No rules, pure fun .

  • @661FPV
    @661FPV Рік тому +5

    Sweet secret unlisted video here! Definitely doing this! Xoxoxo

  • @AlexLebed
    @AlexLebed Рік тому +1

    also, this code might be possible to run on elrs module, so I think it's theoretically possible to use updates to spoof/comply remote ID using ratio or even reciever.

  • @crckdns
    @crckdns Рік тому +3

    There was an update to the code.
    It lets the ESP open own access point for wlan the first 30 seconds or so, where you can add own gps coordinates.

  • @JBothell_KF0IVQ
    @JBothell_KF0IVQ Рік тому

    ESPs are so amazing... There r some fun home assistant stuff, WLED for controlling led strips, and SO MUCH MORE

  • @_Piers_
    @_Piers_ Рік тому +3

    You can buy ESP8266 boards with connections for external antenna ( Wemos D1 Mini Pro) I've only tested these over short distances though.

  • @richiebricker
    @richiebricker Рік тому +6

    What happens when one of these modules gets turned on inside an airport? Are they gonna call Bruce Willis out of retirement?

  • @xRenegade44x
    @xRenegade44x Рік тому +1

    love this. I'm curious if maybe getting an ESP32 with onboard Bluetooth you could then show the board your location via your phones Bluetooth and it could create the Shadow drones based off of that? would it need an app to support? Just spit balling, thanks for the video.

  • @michaelmatthews6421
    @michaelmatthews6421 Рік тому +3

    This is only an educational video!! Lol awesome. Thanks JB

    • @tk-maker
      @tk-maker Рік тому +1

      I even mod the code for random RF power, trust me not practical. but is is fun.

  • @antoineozaneaux6881
    @antoineozaneaux6881 Рік тому

    since i quit flying FPV i just ike to chime in for hummor
    ELRS is the viagra of flying . they make it real hard . still love watching you guys keep going

  • @therickmarcus
    @therickmarcus 4 місяці тому +1

    The node is used in ws2811 pixels, too. Another hobby of mine. I could program and see if i could do two in one!

  • @Mupshot
    @Mupshot Рік тому +15

    in theory, you have also given information on how to build your own RID module for legit purposes for those who wish to comply, but cant afford a certified device. Yes, it wont fit the letter of the law, but could get your local PD to simply walk away.

    • @jaysonrees738
      @jaysonrees738 Рік тому +2

      The issue is getting a legitimate serial number to go with it. I guess a person could buy a single real module, then just spoof their own real number off of non-compliant modules for cheaper.

    • @Mupshot
      @Mupshot Рік тому +4

      @@jaysonrees738 excelent point. put the same serial on each quad

    • @tk-maker
      @tk-maker Рік тому

      there are RID project with ardupilot, but your DIY RID wont get approve by FAA because it is not tamper-proof. It is only possible to do it by manufacturers and cheap ESP chip.

    • @Mupshot
      @Mupshot Рік тому +2

      @@tk-maker the point is to keep local pd satisfied to not escalate to faa

    • @lililililililili8667
      @lililililililili8667 Рік тому

      @@tk-maker put tamper proof screws on it and it magically becomes tamper proof

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations Рік тому

    Yeap. That what I was talking about. And those modifications aren't that hard either.
    Anyway, thanks, Joshua! 😊
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @LochnessFPV
    @LochnessFPV Рік тому +1

    Thank you for your explanation. What is the name of the smartphone app (to test the device) ?

  • @wsurferdude_ct
    @wsurferdude_ct Рік тому

    Loving this video. Thanks Joshua! 😂

  • @carlhoward5469
    @carlhoward5469 Рік тому +2

    I'm going to have to put one of these onboard each of my drones. 😉
    I have plenty of ESP8266 modules that have been just laying around waiting for a fun project.

    • @crisnmaryfam7344
      @crisnmaryfam7344 Рік тому +1

      Could do some accent lighting in your house. Ive watched a lot of videos now of people using these modules to run smart home automation stuff. Motion sensors turning lights on, or to control multiple LED strips similar (or identical to) how a Govee LED system works.

  • @szymonzak6681
    @szymonzak6681 Рік тому

    i got the esp32 i use for controlling rgb strips in my room, its a great little board with so much functionality

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      I just want to point this out because most people don’t know but an ESP32 is not the same as an ESP8266, the ESP32 is newer and generally better. I hope someone makes an ESP32 version soon.

  • @FlyZoneFpv
    @FlyZoneFpv Рік тому

    Awesome. Jb I loved the mastermind laugh 😂 mwah ha ha ha ha👏🏻

  • @szymonzak6681
    @szymonzak6681 Рік тому

    6:47 : im quite sure you can get board with a ufl connector so you can put any antenna you want on it

  • @worldlifeexplore756
    @worldlifeexplore756 7 місяців тому

    Great video. Question
    How does the ESP8266 get power while on the drone? external battery?

  • @TheCloudwalkerFPV
    @TheCloudwalkerFPV Рік тому

    Called it! Told a friend two days ago it wouldn't take a dev/coder long to come out with this.

  • @Just-A-Guy-Learning
    @Just-A-Guy-Learning 5 місяців тому

    Desolder the resistor right before the antenna and solder an sma cable to the empty pcb slot next to old resistor. Solder shield to ground. Use AT command to bump wifi module power up to 100mw. Use a high gain antenna or a better cp antenna. You will get pretty decent range. You can always add a cheap power Amp to the sma then your antenna on the other end of the Amp. Will carry a half mile to a mile plus on just a dipole and set to 100mw.

  • @billhove2906
    @billhove2906 Рік тому +1

    First of all, this is awesome. I'm an old guy, so i have already purchased the actual RID module ($140)
    But I'd love one of these because the park we fly at is filled with karens. Looks complicated for a guy that has difficulty resetting his microwave clock display.
    Someone needs to start selling testers/training devices so Karen can learn how to use the "drone finder app" on her phone.
    I bet Karen would pay $50 to help keep the world safe from fun.
    Nobody would ever use such a device to prevent Karen from her self-appointed duties.
    Probably important to be able to set altitude, speed and gps fence for the 'training drones' so the training app can ensure that Karen understands how to use her app.

  • @genjitsu7448
    @genjitsu7448 Рік тому

    I have to say that I truly love your videos, they have become an important part of how i learn and relax, but this is the first one where I actually let out a genuine maniacal laugh, which is something that I almost never do! Thanks for bringing this to our attention, I had heard about this from a different channel but you got us the plans and details. In you video yesterday you said that it is unclear if this is illegal, after all they never said "dont broadcast RID content..." and I think most of us know how well that kind of crap seems to hold up when in court but still, why are they messing with my hobby? ??
    Keeps me busy, keeps my mind active, keeps my imagination flowing, keeps me getting out of the house, keeps me from lots of bad stuff... I noted that rc was the center of my childhood and it truly got me through some tough times giving me something that couldn't be taken from me as my imagination of what i could do and would do one day was as big a part of the experience as anything.
    Is all of this for clear airspace for drone deliveries? Or drone taxi's, well we must be super close to having those after all why else ruin the fun for millions of people, right now, today, right?!??? This is truly sad, I do hope that clearer heads prevail and soon.

  • @timdawg53
    @timdawg53 10 місяців тому +1

    I have used the ESP8266 and ESP32 boards for some IOT projects like temperature and humidity sensors. They are dev boards similar to Arduino boards.
    I'm pretty sure you can get a GPS module that would communicate with these boards.
    It's also possible to modify the code so that you could configure the GPS coordinates on a webpage, instead of having to recompile the program to change the coordinates.
    I would think it would be illegal to spoof ADS-B data, but it's just an unencrypted data packet, so it wouldn't be hard to do.

    • @thegreenpickel
      @thegreenpickel 10 місяців тому

      Yes, I2C or UART, NEMA or UBX protocol makes it really straight forward. I prefer Ublox UBX since you can receive only the data you want without all the NEMA sentence noise. With UBX you can pull data when ready instead of polling for data.

  • @h2o40fpv
    @h2o40fpv Рік тому

    Really cool idea 😊 thank you.

  • @BrianPhillipsRC
    @BrianPhillipsRC Рік тому

    Stupid question, but couldn't we just make the esp8266 node mcu work AS a RID if we wanted??? Not saying I want to comply, or will, but might be nice to make one for $10 ;)

  • @miquelmarti6537
    @miquelmarti6537 Рік тому +2

    It would be sick to have this installed on the EPS32 module from the HDZero googles, broadcasting some fake pilot positions evry time I turn them on.

  • @marinehm
    @marinehm Рік тому +4

    I have an ESP32 with BT 5. Let me try that for better range. Or is this broadcasted via pcb antenna? Then see if I can port that over to micropython.

  • @JoshFisk
    @JoshFisk Рік тому +5

    On a unrelated note, small 5v solar panels could probably output decent wattage...

    • @iceviper222
      @iceviper222 Рік тому

      Small solar battery banks, add an antenna and put it in a waterproof container and just scatter them around all the places you fly 😂

  • @AerophlixMedia
    @AerophlixMedia 4 місяці тому

    so I bought the boards and have done eveything as mentioned but no drones show up on drone scanner at all! Im also seeing a different sketch where do put in lat and long numbers

  • @OrdinaryGothic
    @OrdinaryGothic 11 місяців тому

    Any chance you can do this video again. Almost every aspect has changed from your instructions and I am afraid its much more difficult now.

  • @ericapelz260
    @ericapelz260 Рік тому

    I have yet to get a GPS on a drone to reliably position lock anyway. I suspect that many folks putting RID modules on their drones will have rf interference issues and short transmission distances.

  • @ctrcflyin2011
    @ctrcflyin2011 Рік тому

    Love this idea!

  • @antonnym214
    @antonnym214 2 місяці тому +1

    I like the way you think! Bless you! As a patriot, I subscribed immediately.

  • @dj13579100
    @dj13579100 Рік тому +1

    Wonder if the flipper zero could have an addon bord made for this

  • @terrylembke8100
    @terrylembke8100 Рік тому

    Hi , I just found your channel . I am new to fpv . I've flown rc aircraft for years , gas and glow . I am building a tri copter now . First time electric . I am looking for the absolute lowest price fpv setup , camera and headset and whatever else I need . Could you guide me in that please ?
    Thanks
    Terry

  • @duderguy1571
    @duderguy1571 Рік тому +1

    Tomorrow Joshua, omg there's 10 million drones over my house!🤣

  • @brogamer3166
    @brogamer3166 Рік тому

    love the vids

  • @Foamieninja
    @Foamieninja Рік тому

    jjshoots just released a new revision of the sketch. He integrated a small webserver. Coordinates can now be added, and modified via the web UI.
    On a side note: I've been dealing with arduino since the dawn of the multiwii series of flight controllers. This sort of thing always gives me the giggles.

  • @guerrillaradio9953
    @guerrillaradio9953 Рік тому

    And I can even run it on an esp8266? My favorite microcontroller ever? That's the icing on the cake 😎

  • @DavidGRCand3d
    @DavidGRCand3d Рік тому

    Couple things I learned today.... First, the github is updated, as is the code. It now has a WAP and web page where you can enter the Gps coordinates so you can do it "in the field". Second... I can't see it with my iPhone... Apps on the iPhone for getting "local" Remote ID that is broadcast with WiFi only, iPhone doesn't let an app have access. So, if you do use Remote ID, and want to have fewer people snooping, use one that only does WiFi type signals, and not Bluetooth.

  • @AllenStJohn
    @AllenStJohn Рік тому +1

    First off this uses WiFi+Bluetooth and I believe we are for the most part free to broadcast anything we want in those bands as long as the transmit power level restrictions are followed. And keep in mind its not just WiFi and Bluetooth that operate in these frequencies, other devices such as microwaves, cordless phones, ZigBee are among the list of things that operate in this frequency ranges and this is by no means a complete list and the ability to regulate that is not up to the FAA but actually falls under the FCC.

    • @AllenStJohn
      @AllenStJohn Рік тому

      Also if this is legal to do, whats to stop a non pilot from flashing a bunch of these and just simulating them for no reason? with no actual drone in the air or doing it around a pilot they don't know. This will again just muddy the waters so to speak. I could see attaching these to a terrestrial bound RC car and using a GPS to update the center of the fake drone swarm.

  • @abdulr5320
    @abdulr5320 Рік тому

    you can buy it with external antenna option .. the esp32 is faster better choice

  • @jayfpv9376
    @jayfpv9376 4 місяці тому

    Thanks JB. Great first arduino project. Everything worked as expected including the successful upload. Then nothing after the "Hard RST reset" message. No blinky blue light. No indication power is connected. OpenDroneID detects my actual RemoteID, but no spoofed ones show in the list. Anyone got any thoughts?

  • @marinehm
    @marinehm Рік тому +1

    I have an ESP32 with BT 5. Let me try that for better range. Or is this broadcasted via pcb antenna?

  • @JoshuaBardwell
    @JoshuaBardwell  Рік тому +13

    Some people are commenting that this is definitely illegal. I'm not convinced. I'm not a lawyer, and you're probably not a lawyer either, and the person whose video you're probably quoting when you say it's illegal -- he isn't a lawyer either, and he's not even a U.S. resident. So let's all just take a big step back and think about this.
    Could this be illegal under some "interfering with a system" law? Yup. If the government wants to screw you over, they will find some law to charge you with. Look at what happened to Aaron Swartz (link: bit.ly/3ronrJB).
    But it's not a given that using the RemoteID spoofer is illegal. Consider this: intentionally jamming RF signals is illegal, right? Yes. If I were to get a microwave oven and put it in the middle of a shopping mall and turn it on with the express intent of jamming wifi in the mall, that would be illegal. But if I was making a cup of tea with that same microwave oven, that would not be illegal, because my intent is to make a cup of tea, not to interfere with the system.
    So any law that hinges on intent to interfere requires the government to prove your intent.
    In addition, the Spoofer does not prevent the RemoteID system from working. Legitimate RemoteID broadcasts are still transmitted and received, and all RemoteID systems work correctly. What if I was to do the same thing by buying 15 DJI Avatas and plugging them all in so they broadcast RemoteID information? Would that be illegal? What if I was to do the same thing by hiring 15 friends to come hover the DJI Avatas in the area while I fly? Is that illegal? Obviously not, even though the effect is exactly the same as with this RemoteID spoofer.
    My point is that there is no law that requires RemoteID trasmissions to be sent only be an actual SUAS (as far as I know). Any way that the gov tries to make this illegal will hinge on their interpretation of your intent, and intent can be difficult to prove if you just keep your mouth shut. BUT if you get into a situation where you have to defend your intent against the gov, you're probably already in deep shit, so better to just not get in that situation in the first place.

    • @TheCablebill
      @TheCablebill Рік тому +2

      The intent of broadcasting decoy signals is obviously to defeat the utility of RID for those who would use it. I can't imagine any ather interpretation. However, interestingly, it uses spectrum and corresponding equipment that is type certified for unlicensed general purpose use. Not the case for ADSB which has its own spectrum and dedicated equipment. So you're clean(Ish) with the FCC, sorta.
      Yet I wouldn't put it past some prosecutor to cook up any kind if charge - maybe some kind of terrorism? for inducing panic, perhaps...

    • @Sislith
      @Sislith Рік тому

      xjet recently made a video showing how they could ding you for doing this.
      ua-cam.com/video/WuGN6a3w2FQ/v-deo.html

    • @richardamiss7000
      @richardamiss7000 Рік тому

      @TheCablebill the inducing panic argument implies that all drones are scary, which could be spun into the govt is inducing panic by releasing this app and system.

    • @RickLaBanca
      @RickLaBanca Рік тому +1

      The intent with this is obvious other that you’re testing rid detectors.
      But if you put it near an airport you’re easily screwed and it’s not legal.

    • @ichi1082
      @ichi1082 Рік тому +1

      >Any way that the gov tries to make this illegal will hinge on their interpretation of your intent, and intent can be difficult to prove if you just keep your mouth shut.
      Yeah, you got that right. You didn't keep your mouth shut at all and your video leaves no room for any other interpretation from your side. I can't imagine publishing a video like this will be very beneficial your channel (in light of YTs Harmful or dangerous content policies and people not liking you as a person reporting this video). That said, I respect that you did it and I wish more "content creators" were like you. Kudos.

  • @freman
    @freman 5 місяців тому

    could have it scan for remote id and figure out gps from that, or have it open a ap/webserver and connect to it from your phone and do a quick gps update...

  • @sizzelot
    @sizzelot Рік тому

    well knowing the FAA they will next want to know where you are flying your flight simulator plane so this device might be good for helping out with that.

  • @hunter-ct9ky
    @hunter-ct9ky Рік тому +1

    Whats the app that you can see the location of the drones?

  • @stevefox3763
    @stevefox3763 Рік тому

    The guy whos Github is linked in the description has just ordered an ESP32 and hopes to bring support for that as well!

  • @lesdavidson5546
    @lesdavidson5546 Рік тому

    Thanks Joshua

  • @greghill2368
    @greghill2368 6 місяців тому +1

    Okay so why do we have to have the remote ID thing on the drone.. couldn't that be handled with a gps sending coordinates back to the controller, then the controller hooks up to like your phone or something?

  • @user-dn7vy6qg1m
    @user-dn7vy6qg1m 6 місяців тому

    Is there any way that I could do this with my flipper zero.

  • @monolith2001
    @monolith2001 Рік тому +1

    Great content and fun to see this tech so available but I'd say just don't comply with RID. I'd rather be found out not having a RID module than an active spoofing device. Much easier to plead ignorance if you are not actively trying to undermine the system. This might even get some interest from the FCC.

    • @knight907
      @knight907 Рік тому

      That’s not how RID works. They either don’t find you because you aren’t running RID, or they find you by using your RID signal. There’s no RID patrol driving around looking for people not running RID. This is just a Karen decoy, so if one of them thinks it would be fun to try to ruin your day, it ruins theirs instead.

  • @gern_blandston
    @gern_blandston 5 місяців тому

    This seems like a good way to get the FCC involved in cracking down on FPV pilots too

  • @gladperson116
    @gladperson116 Рік тому +1

    Nice I bought one years ago and now I have a use for it! Lol

  • @electrohacker
    @electrohacker Рік тому

    What are you using to read the remote id?

  • @Drickon
    @Drickon Рік тому +2

    Did Amazon already sell out of these in an hour?

  • @fNatyk
    @fNatyk Рік тому

    Are you able to do something similar with the DJI goggles 2? They plug into your phone to gather your GPS data, but what if you're running a VPN on your phone, will your GPS location be in another country?

    • @colind6797
      @colind6797 4 місяці тому

      The VPN doesn't spoof your GPS coords dude, 2 completely different radios

  • @brocktechnology
    @brocktechnology Рік тому +10

    Adding a GPS is a pretty easy change. You need half a dozen lines of c code to pull the location out of the GPS data and drop it in the existing location definition. My guess is it will take you a couple hours of googling to figger it out. Everything else you need to do I've seen you do in previous videos.
    One tip if your up for trying it, Drone people always say UART whereas Arduino people nearly always say serial port but their the same thing.

    • @richardamiss7000
      @richardamiss7000 Рік тому +3

      This is correct for Arduinos and Drones, but a UART is not always synonymous with Serial. A UART is a serial port, but not all serial ports are UARTs.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому +1

      @@richardamiss7000 yeah serial is a broad term, it just means the data is sent through a single communication channel hence SPI (Serial Peripheral Interface) is also serial communication as I2C probably is as well and USB definitely is (at least USB 2 is). Most commonly used communication methods on MCUs are serial.

    • @brocktechnology
      @brocktechnology Рік тому

      @@richardamiss7000 Agree, every interest group bodges up the terminology in there own way.

    • @pontiacg445
      @pontiacg445 Рік тому +1

      ​@@conorstewart2214 Serial means just that, data arrives in series. Dshot is serial. Anything that is not parallel, which is practically nothing any longer, is serial comms.
      Nothing saying serial comms needs to be on one line. As an example USB is for sure serial, except it's differential signals which means it's two wire data.
      Now, is QUAD SPI serial, or is it parallel, or both?!

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      @@pontiacg445 loads of things are parallel and more are going parallel. HDMI is parallel, PCIe is parallel except from x1, USB 3 is parallel. Serial is still used plenty though, it is used in CAN networks in vehicles, USB 2, even wireless communications.
      I also never said that serial had to be on one line, I said "through a single communication channel", a differential pair is still just a single communication channel.
      Dual, quad and octo SPI is parallel, it uses multiple communication channels to transmit the data. Just like how USB 3 also uses multiple differential pairs now.

  • @chuckwain5591
    @chuckwain5591 Рік тому +1

    I am a HAM radio guy and EE. The frequency spectrum is very carefully allocated by the FCC. Both Bluetooth and WiFi are open public parts of the spectrum. FAA can make all the rules they want but these are public frequencies. I see no way they can keep people from using them anyway they want, e.g. spoofing. I used to fly in a park in the Phoenix, AZ area. One side of it had a bunch of homes with WiFi in them. We would consistently get interference with video when flying near them. How is this different than this ESP32 project? The FAA is way out of it league on this.
    For another example of the FAA vs the FCC read up on the radio altimeter mess that full scale aviation is dealing with. The FAA tried force cell companies to abandon frequencies they had just paid big bucks for because of possible interference with poorly designed radio altimeters. After lots of posturing the FAA lost, the radio altimeters have to be updated to filter out the cell phone frequencies. This should have been the case from the start but the radio altimeter manufacturers wanted to save some $'s and did poor design. They got away with for a long time as no one was on the adjacent frequencies, now that has changed.

  • @youaake
    @youaake Рік тому

    Do not even own a drone, but this is awesome

  • @manski209
    @manski209 Рік тому

    So cool!

  • @ttcummins99
    @ttcummins99 Рік тому

    Every modeler and FPV pilot should walk around with these on their keychain. Flooding the remote ID system would be the best way to protest the law!

  • @LostCloudx4
    @LostCloudx4 Рік тому

    Hmmm, I got one board I managed to upload to....but no blue light and nothing showing.
    The other board shows as an active port in ide but won't upload to it or access serial port :/

    • @WOTHFPV
      @WOTHFPV Рік тому

      I bought a 3 pack of these on Amazon and can't get them to detect. I have the CP210x drivers installed (works with my flight controllers in BF). I know the port is COM7 but it doesn't show up. Bummer...

  • @JamesMerle-qi3uz
    @JamesMerle-qi3uz Рік тому

    VERY IMFORMATIVE!! Sending it to others!!!😜

  • @startoftext
    @startoftext Рік тому

    Bardwell, where did you get that cinnamon-whoop shirt?

  • @YorkyPoo_UAV
    @YorkyPoo_UAV Рік тому +4

    All of those files JB has blurred out are all AI generated NSFW Images😅

  • @Clickmaster5k
    @Clickmaster5k Рік тому

    You could put this on your drone. So the swarm of fake drones is picked up where ever your quad is picked up.

  • @leewashington4991
    @leewashington4991 4 місяці тому

    Your Video was very goo until after installing the Arduino There is nor file to copy and paste for the ESP8266 board???

  • @sevenrats
    @sevenrats Рік тому

    Interfereing with a law enforcement investigation is the first of many charges you would be facing. I'm sure then the FAA would come up with some of their own and then call the FCC and then they would charge you with broadcast violations. You could end up in a heap of trouble.

  • @moretoliving2236
    @moretoliving2236 Рік тому +3

    How would one power this? With usb portable charge bank or 2/3/4/6s battery? For educational purposes, of course.
    Is it possible to "name" the drones like "Karen B Gone" "Karen B Gone 2" "Never Gonna Give It Up 4"?
    Thank you for being awesome Joshua.

    • @tk-maker
      @tk-maker Рік тому +4

      The nodeMCU is regulated with Ams1117 voltage regulator chip with v range 5-12v, you needs a BEC or draw from FC.

    • @tk-maker
      @tk-maker Рік тому +2

      FYI - The naming, from the source code it is defined as 16 characters, first two char is country code so you will get country flag in drone scanner app.

    • @tanker7757
      @tanker7757 Рік тому

      I wonder if you could hack the app using malicious drone names

  • @dogoshicatamoto269
    @dogoshicatamoto269 Рік тому

    found you channel by accident, so if i understand this correctly this device spoofs a gps signal, right? can it also spoof a blutooth signal?

    • @SchubertTech
      @SchubertTech Рік тому

      No, it's NOT spoofing GPS. It is spoofing the location of a drone which is transmitted by either bluetooth or wifi from the drone to a handheld device (e.g. phone with Karen app). The GPS input is so that the spoofed location (via BT or Wifi) is relatively near the actual location. If you're flying in Dallas, it will be obvious if the "spoofed" location is Austin, OKC or Los Angeles.

  • @SueMyChin
    @SueMyChin Рік тому +3

    Any reason we can't use an app on our phones to generate the signal? They all have GPS and the ability to communicate two way via WiFi and Bluetooth. Wifi hotpots use the 2.4 band just like the RID network too.
    I believe that if we don't add in a GPS location roughly matching the radio signal source, they could easily filter out the signals that don't tie into the GPS locations.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      Phones don’t allow low level access to the wifi chip, MCUs do.

    • @SueMyChin
      @SueMyChin Рік тому

      @@conorstewart2214 Ahh, so they would need to be rooted or something if it was even possible at all.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому +1

      @@SueMyChin it probably isn't possible using any form of OS. It just isn't really feasible to do on phones.

    • @jaysonrees738
      @jaysonrees738 Рік тому +1

      Many consumer electronics limit what can be accomplished with a piece of wireless hardware. Phones and wireless dongles are usually designed to do standard consumer functions and nothing more. While these pieces of hardware could technically output fancy non-standard signals, it would require them to be ripped from their carrier device and controlled by specialized hardware. Best to get something already rigged to do such things.

    • @SueMyChin
      @SueMyChin Рік тому

      @@jaysonrees738 Thanks for the clarifications

  • @AlexLebed
    @AlexLebed Рік тому +1

    for anyone interested, there's special watch with this module.

  • @peterfynn
    @peterfynn Рік тому

    What is the phone app that picks up a remote ID signal? Does it pick up just the rid from sUAVs or does it also pick up those from aircraft flying overhead?

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      Aircraft use something very different from remote ID. Remote ID uses 2.4 GHz the same as wifi or Bluetooth, ADS-B uses 1090 MHz. They are very different signals and phones aren’t able to read ADS-B but are able to read remote ID.

    • @peterfynn
      @peterfynn Рік тому

      @@conorstewart2214 Thanks, I really appreciate your reply. But, just so that I understand this, remote ID will be another unit cluttering up the 2.4 GHz airways. If we all put these transmitters in our models, is there enough "room" in the 2.4 GHz band? Are we going to see interference between these units and our radio systems?

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 Рік тому

      @@peterfynn hopefully it uses a slightly different range of frequencies to normal transmitters but I don't know. If it is just you flying alone then you probably won't have interference and big events will probably be done at one of the exempt zones so you wouldn't need a remote ID system.

  • @BooDevil65
    @BooDevil65 Рік тому +1

    Can I use this to Make *my* UAV's RID always be below 400 feet and within 100 yards (LoS) of me? 😏

  • @dholzric1
    @dholzric1 Рік тому

    Is there a limit to how many drones it will spoof? Im thinking 100 or 1000 would be a lot better...

  • @highdesertdrew1844
    @highdesertdrew1844 Рік тому

    I'm reminded of a Judas Priest track...
    Anyways, thing to remember, a lot of signals are line of sight, so broadcasting the spoofed information from your location won't be as good as simply putting the spoofer on the drone. Also, rather than putting it in your car. Building small units that could be solar powered and placed up high in trees or on buildings to cover a region would be a more effective use than putting it in your car.