Employers Are Souring On Ivy League Grads While These 20 “New Ivies” Ascend
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- Опубліковано 6 чер 2024
- Hiring managers have long used the reputation of a new college graduate’s alma mater as an indicator of an applicant’s ability and expected job performance. Elite national consulting, banking and investment firms focused their recruiting on the Ivy League and a handful of the other most selective schools. Big companies looked more widely, but still often favored a limited number of highly ranked universities. Regional firms would tap graduates of schools with the best reputations in their geographic area.
0:00 Introduction
0:23 What's Going On With The Ivy League?
2:23 Where Are Recruiters Looking Now?
5:51 How Did Forbes Report This Story?
7:03 What Should Rising College Students Take From This Reporting?
8:30 Other Take Aways
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The value of a college degree has gone down but Ivy League schools thought they were exempt from that and people realize Ivy league is starting to mean wealthy family instead of a smarter student
Yup, too politically correct. Get back to teaching and discussing all sides of a topic, not just the 'acceptable' side.
Not just the "Leftist" side.
@@johnvaleanbaily246 i wouldn’t say politics because in things like STEM fields its mostly math and science but companies are realizing most Ivy League graduates went to the school because their families were rich or connected, not necessarily because they were smarter. That college admission scandal a few years ago showed that, all those kids lied and cheated and paid money to go to top schools.
@@johnvaleanbaily246That depends on what you consider the “other side.” If you mean magat drivel based on spoon-fed lies from fascist rightwing propagandists platforms like fox & other trash, like OANN & NewsMax who btw are not even considered as journalists, then the answer is NO, in general. However, there are classes where propagandists would be studied (not as legit sources for info), but as actual examples of fascistic propagandists, and the harm done by false narratives that brainwash gullible viewers. Psychology classes might also consider the delusion of gullible viewers who don’t live in reality because they’ve been brainwashed by ppl who get paid to lie to them for the R ‘party.’
It's really not. Ivy Leagues are still incredibly difficult to get into and still retain value
Ivy League is where you go for connections, meet other students whose parents are connected!
Sounds more like a fraternity/sorority for the intellectually gifted
@@ritzbrecio no just people who suck at critical thinking, which appears to be intellect but in reality you can convince them of anything
@@TurdFergusen the cognitive dissonance as a form of cope is real 💪
How many Hamas supporters are well connected? Most of the connected students are home, afraid for their safety.
Meeting wealthy people doesn't mean they will help you. Many large corporations do not give favors.
It's almost like elitist schools for the rich and privileged aren't a good idea 🤔
let the elite and privileged go there . The employers are not recruiting them.
@@jamesb4789 the employers are their parents. it won't be a problem for them.
And now it's a dumping ground for people who are illiterate and innumerate. Congratulations, you got equity but it isn't doing much good.
Hire the people who work and pay their own tuition. I worked two jobs and commuted two hours a day when I was in college. Didn’t have time to act like an idiot. Worked hard in my job and got promoted several times till I retired.
This is so out of touch that it's laughable.
Who wouldn't want temper tantrum throwing activists. Im sure that is an asset to any company.
Protesting genocide is dumb, defending genocide is smart.
Thats you
@@glennknauer2696 using the term genocide without any context or depth is dumb
@@glennknauer2696what is it called when 2 parties want to kill each other but one just sucks at it?
@@Pl-ax0 ohh like all that October stuff
75 years of opresión and you bring up Oct 7, ?
I applaud these students! Standing for justice!
American higher education is becoming trash in recent years. Most American colleges have become test optional in recent years. They have officially abandoned the traditional method of recruiting students based on objective standardized testing (like the SAT). Instead, they are playing a game which they call Holistic Approach that puts excessive emphasis on non-academic factors like extracurricular activities, teacher recommendations, college application essays, racial quota, legacy quota and first generation college student quota etc. Make no mistake. These things are completely irrelevant to a student's academic potential. Academic standard is dropping like a rock in America and it's no wonder why college graduates cannot find high paying jobs anymore.
Have you have your car, plumbing or air conditioning units fixed lately? My son went to trade school for computer repair and has has $150,000 career with no college. And no school debt! Cost us a total of $5000 which he had saved for his college. Needless to say, he bought a house, has a wife and kids and DOESN'T live in our basement l
Congratulations to your son. Skills are what count.
Another issue is that hiring managers are completely out of touch as to what it takes to succeed in a position and only look at "paper" rather than actually talking to the canidate.
the issue is that managers no longer make hiring decisions. thats HR now.
‘Entry level jobs’? Give me a break!! To them it’s $150k+ but to us it’s $70k+
The only difficult part of going to an Ivy League school is getting in.
TO ALL THE KIDS WANTING TO BE A PHARMACIST, ANY SCHOOL WILL DO. DO NOT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON AN EXPENSIVE SCHOOL. PASSING YOUR BOARD AND GETTING YOUR LICENSE IS ALL YOU NEED.
ONCE prestigious universities
I don't need an Ivy League grad disrupting my company's operations.
Our firm decided long ago to set the resume engine filters to discard anything coming in from these universities. They have produced nothing but little radicals that will be more trouble than they're worth, irregardless of whatever credentials they might have obtained (the sources of which having become questionable themselves).
Our best recrutiing has been rural community colleges and state AG schools. They're teachable and eager to explore different aspects of business.
The only reason I see to hire Ivy kids is if you're still flogging your firm as "Ivy League" and your customer base is legacy wealth from same.
This is a bunch of double-speak nonsense. So you are picking colleges for "recruiters" to recruit from based on HIGH SCHOOL test scores??? This is the lazy way out. Why don't you do the leg work to look at the experiences colleges provide to prepare the students with the tools for the real world.
The better way to evaluate the real value of a degree form a school is how many get jobs before graduation and 6 months out and where do the jobs fall in the percentile range. Ivy's stink at that for undergrads falling in the 60's percentiles most year.
These universities are not worth your time or your money they repeatedly keep showing that, seriously what kind of education are they actually getting of value
When Ivy turns into Poison Ivy.
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Binghamton University? That is a test optional institution that had about 10% of their applicants who submitted scores.
This lady just contradictes herself.
The Ivies have created the disruption by actively recruiting for social justice activists, while eliminating the best students, who are known to be Jews. The Jewish percentage in the Ivies has therefore been deliberately reduced. Hence the Ivies deselected for the most academically inclined students.
I wish there was some specific data in this reporting. Sounds too much like hearsay and over-extrapolation. For example, has the distribution and profile of new hire positions actually changed for Ivy League graduates? Why do we care that employers are "taking a harder look" if the results are the same, for example?
So many people get protested and banned from campus for so many reasons. But somehow the prescence of corporate recruiters is OK.
Hurray for my graduate university - Johns Hopkins! First on the private college list. I rejected Columbia for Hopkins, and lucky I did. Fabulous program, though it was in the 70s. A serious university for learning when I attended.
Hopkins students held large protests against the Vietnam War, and they’re also protesting right now.
Johns Hopkins, great institution
There were no protests when I attended from '74 to '76. And the recent encampment has been unfortunate for Hopkins' reputation, but the Sun reports as of Sunday, May 12, the encampment is being taken down. And it remained peaceful and caused no major disruption to university operations.
No, it is the other way around. Employers are seeking students who stand up to tyranny, and injustice! We have seen brave students with a moral compass!
No, we have seen simps for Islamic totalitarianism.
haha
I am a physician, a small business owner and live near Cornell. I doubt I would hire anyone who went to an Ivy for undergrad. They all seem to project a sense of entitled victimhood and crazy DEI mentality.
I'd love to see schools rated on ROI for the average grad in each degree program and percentage with a firm job offer by graduation time.
If you are paying 250,000 dollars for a degree and a state school costs 50k, you better be making at least 20k per year more as a graduate of the Ivy league school.
@@MiMiiViVi And the Ivy League is 500k - same math applies
Ivy League= snooty child who has no life skills due to being sheltered by their parents money
Georgia Tech is top notch school!!
You can get just as good an education for a lot less money at a state school.
Bingo! And plenty of recruiters from big companies get candidates from these schools
The point of ivy league is not about just education but the connections you make. Think about all the presidents who went to harvard, ceos of tech giants who went to an Ivy League. You're surrounded by children whose parents probably own a company of some sort. It's more about building connections.
She did tried to renew her passport but failed because she didn’t have NIN. As she said, she didn’t have enough time to do or register for NIN.
Boston College? Really?
Good!
Sorry, but this Elitist whining. the stark truth about the Ivy leagues was clear 30 YEARS ago. Lehigh University runs a non-profit that has tracked salaries and job situations for most universities and colleges across the nation since the 1960's. the data was % with jobs at graduation, 6 months after graduation and a year later. They also tracked the salaries that were reported. I used to have access and I can tell you that in 1992, the Ivy League university grads who did not go on to grad school AVERAGED salaries at the 60th percentile. By the '00's the vast majority of the undergrads went to grad school. I had a nephew who graduated in the early '10's from Princeton and he could not even get interviews. The entire Placement Department was a part time secretary. Why? Because next to no one bothered to recruit there. By contrast, my alma mater Lehigh University with 4500 undergrads had 29 full time and 14 part time employees for the Placement office.
The Ivy's have been living on reputation for 50 years. Some of the grad schools are top notch, but the undergraduate programs leave a lot to be desired. I have hired people from about 50 colleges and universities and I have seen only a few people worth hiring out of the Ivy League. Far too privileged and far to arrogant.
Entitled brats
Harrison Butker played for Georgia Tech.
Consider the students that ‘protest’ against anything….you may have hired a worker that feels privileged and starts a strike at work because they thought it worked at school. Check their school disciplinary record before you hire !!! Hopefully the corresponding Universities expelled or held back on their graduation….NO REFUNDS !!!
BINGHAMTON 😎 great school
😂🤣 - previous brand names schools fell short...what's the solution?
make a new brand list of brand names - what's the definition of insanity again?
Lol, right! Employers should be school-blind when hiring. Hire people based on desire to succeed such as level of initiative to upskill even through online micro-courses, or perhaps volunteerism. Those with no money to pay the Ivies are more hungry for success!
As a business owner, I am not hiring anyone with a college degree unless it is from:
University of Wyoming
Auburn
Alabama
Brigham Young
Liberty
TCU
Harding
Texas A&M
Hiring low tier losers in other words.
@@alaa-eldin_hamdan nope, just hiring kids that are not indoctrinated Leftists.
@@MiMiiViVi and if the kid is a Leftists, he’s welcome to go work somewhere else because he or she is not working for me.
@@MiMiiViVi good, the Leftists have plenty of other choices, but then again, most of them will do everything they can not to work
@@MiMiiViVi good, I’m glad the Leftists have plenty of other choices. But of course they will probably do everything within their power that they have to work.
You should name SMU if you are in Dallas area. It is a private university but gives out very very generous merit based scholarships which brings down their tuition on same level as UT Austin. Also SMU has very strong grip on Dallas Market.
Justify
I went to USC
Not sure about this…..the “interview “ has a lot of “yea” ( that hard for a reporter to say yes?) Lot of stammering, a lot of “I mean” and a lot of valley girl tilt at the end of her sentence. Don’t know if I can put much faith in her findings. It would be great if it’s true but they need a better spokesperson.
This list is a waste too. There are better state schools. L for elitist ives.
No different than French fries. Wendy is now so much better than MacDonald. The only question is how do MacDonald let that happen?
Don't hire'em. They sympathize with Palestinians who danced to celebrate. Ultimately, it'll be a problem for the employer.
Go woke go broke
The alternate school include many that are no better than the Ivy League. Bennington's greatest claim to fame is they have for decades boasted about being the most expensive school in the US.
Value for cost in higher education can be seen in job placement and salaries. With Ivy League grads leading companies over the cliff in a lemming like pursuit of Woke/DEI, where is the value for employers?
Almost like modern jobs require competitive skills, and degrees that are just receipts for old money rich to launder their assets back to themselves through tax exempt donations and institutions.
Go BC!
Yea we're seeing what all these radicalized ivy League students will do for your company just ask Google! 😅 What a absolute joke
Ivy League
=
Snowflakes
If they are Hamas supporters, I wouldn't hire them.
I would.
overwhelming majority of them are not. it's a dishonest way to try to discredit the whole movement by labeling it as such.
It may harm their chances later..if they protested
You would...because to not hire them could be considered discrimination under EEOC rules.
@@pootieheadroflmao no Hamas is a designated terrorist organization you will end up in federal prison....kids nowadays think the world didn't exist before them.
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Hooray
What extracurriculars do you need for Oxford?
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Well they’re finally waking up!
They should tear down these private University institutions and build affordable housing repair.The damage that they've done to public education non profit education
I wouldn't tear them down, just revamp EVERYTHING
listening to these women is almost painful. it’s crazy that this is the editor in chief. their voices belong on a cooking podcast.
If only schools granted admission on merit!!! 😂
They need people who can think outside the box not give the area of a square.
Go Georgia Tech! We are all about career preparation along with leadership in business, engineering, and science. We have no lefty hooliganism on campus because everyone is busy with research and business.
This interview is distorting the data. They are judging by high school acceptance statistics by Universities, not the employer hiring practices. I can say firsthand that the major Silicon Valley recruiters will almost always interview Ivy League candidates - even when, to technical people like me, they should be looking at different candidates. I have to conclude that this interview is mostly propaganda - an effort to get the Ivy Leagues to be less accepting to LBGT and other "renaissance" values, as our society tries to get modernize our values beyond simple greed.
Woke is not “renaissance,” it’s an evil totalitarian ideology. It’s quite distinct from someone's being an individual L, G, B or T.
It's about time those college's are horrible. Those students don't even know what www means.
liberals
DEI.
That's gone. Remember that court case
@@deebrown7160still at work places.
Nobody cares just thank DEI....
What? DEI is gone what are you talking about
@@deebrown7160 I got all my sisters, so we are family...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diversity,_equity,_and_inclusion it is getting a job/position based upon being a minority not based upon merit.
😂The foxnews effect
My preference would be either Jews or Japanese. The rest I would just pass. Sorry.