I was watching the second game and I was like "man, this game feels so familiar! I bet this zerg player is in the same league as me", and it took me a while to realize that was the raplay I sent them 😆 Loved to see my game on the show! Thanks for all the videos! PS: yes, I have serious issues spending my resources and I don't know how I still manage to win games
@@black_squall As someone who just reach Diamond, I can assure you that GM players aren't being hyperbolic when they say that Diamond players have just figured out the very basics of how to play. If you learn the basics of how to macro, you can get to Diamond without scouting or micro
The discussion for the second match was the best. Artosis saying "Alright, hold on, I got this." while Harmstem sees Lowko's guess in disbelief and then trying to hold in his laughter when Artosis continued with "[...] if I see a 2 come in from you [...]". Then Lowko revealing his guess and Artosis commenting "[...] I was like "I'm gonna crush him, he's gonna put something dumb like Gold 2" [...]" and that ends up being Harmstem's guess. 🤣
24:35 You'd be surprised! I'm brand new to RTS games, and I've been following PiGs videos. Only played about a week and I'm using multiple army / building hotkeys and camera locations. I find a lot of people in my games doing the same
Can we just pause for a second and appreciate this beautiful content made by 3 intelligent, witty and humble guys, who - just like us - love the game of starcraft and share the passion with community. Thank you guys and never stop. Merry Christmas!
Artosis and Harstem's committment to the idea that zergs do not have to macro is what really gets me here, Lowko is trying so hard not to get baited. You can feel years of suppressed anger bubbling beneath the surface.
no irony tho. I tried terran - holy crap making units is so stupid hard it's unreal. Not to mention u need to build shit where units are build, like wtf is that how is this playable?
This was a super hard rank roulette episode! Congrats lowko! Thanks harstem for the excellent content. Sorry if you felt on the back burner lol, too much personality for one show 😅
oh man i would really like a viewer participating in this rank roulette, something like people competing each other on rank roulettes and the first place can take place on the championship against the "celebrities" and we can see how well they do. Could you imagine a viewer getting to the grand final and going toe to toe with idk, Reynor, or lowko, artosis. That would be cool
I haven't played starcraft in over 6 months, but I strongly suspect the second game was me. A lot of that game felt very familiar, and all the mistakes highlighted were the usual mistakes that I make. But to be fair I guess a lot of games at my level will look similar to that. Either way, it was exciting to watch!
talking about the last game, there is a famous uploader on bilibili named 大刺蛇 aka the gaint hydra. He is a gm zerg player who always uses the 2 base swarmhost against protoss after his early game went wrong. Apparently there is a lot of zerg player flowing her style.
I do this as well - however I have to be honest (just purely assessing this game and not attempting to compare to me) - the micro of the SH of this player seemed very low for that build - just all SH launches / no locust micro / nydus was late etc. The DTs are a problem of course but it wasn't a good example of what 'can' be done with this build.
My guesses were d3, s1, g3, and p2. 10 total. I expect my queen-sized solid gold trophy in the mail by next week. I want to say hello to my mom, and tell all of my fans that what brought me here was not hard work, but sheer, pure luck. Git gut, nerds!
Would love to see a rank roulette where you just throw an absolute wrench into the guessing and just use a bunch of IODIS replay submissions for it (perhaps come clean and put the submission text at the end to prevent people getting too salty, and call it a special unranked episode outside of the regular season)
09:08 "Dude, people who are in Division 2 just haven't played enough games to fall into a 1 or a 3. 🍃🚬🗿" - Artosis, 2022. *One game later:* 16:10 (L) "Yup, that's the way to do it. 🐸☕️" (A) "Oh my god! _That's_ Diamond 2?! 🙈" (H) "And also a '2'. I think that's the real takeaway here 😏."
I wasn’t surprised the third game was in the metal leagues. The Protoss player used f2 a lot, there many times when the disrupters would just move toward the front with no shots going out. I also feel like the reason why the Protoss player didn’t move even after winning an engagement was because he had no idea what the opponent had.
A lot of people play league of legends and know how to stutter step but are still terrible at starcraft (such as me). Amazing episode and season of Rank Roulette, sad it will be gone for a while.
16 Points today. High-scoring game, but I actually beat the host and one of the guests. If I was cool enough to be a contestant, I probably wouldn’t have been here today anyway, and even if I was, I still would have lost. . . . Round 1: D1 (5 Points) - I feel like these are guys who not only understand the basics of the game, but also know how to prioritize their APM and respond quickly. However, they’re still building those responses. Was waffling in which Diamond league to guess, and then guessed D1 because of how action-packed the game was on both sides. Round 2: G1 (6 Points) - The macro was really bad, but there were two things I really noticed. The marines kiting the ling/bane (and then the complete destruction of the mineral line), and the fact that the Zerg player mixed in Corruptors to fight the BCs. Silver macro, platinum decision-making, I think it’s gold. Round 3: P2 (3 Points) - The opposite of the last game. Macro was a lot better than everything else. Also went with the “2” based on the last two rounds. Round 4: D2 (2 Points) - Cheese is gonna get you pretty high up. I also feel like the deficiencies like lack of creep spread don’t really matter. You don’t really need the vision when you’re cheesing, or the movement speed when you’re using Nydus. Both folks were cheesy, so I think that plays a big part.
The takeaway from this is that if there seems to be a big difference in skill level between the two players, you should (probably) always go for a league fitting the lesser player. A player is more likely to be in a league below their current skill level, than in a league higher than their current skill level. A player can also have a very good aspect of their gameplay, such as a clean early game, but be terrible at other aspects, like mid-to-late-game transition and closing out games, which will more often than not lead to them staying in a lower league.
that "Gold 3" game actually demonstrates a serious flaw within this otherwise AMAZING idea of a series... ...namely that a lot of games might come from otherwise really strong players who are climbing the ladder from a brand-new account, and thus, -- -- still have a lower placement than the one they actually belong to. Thus, any serious attempts to accurately predict the league / division would be in vain...
That's kinda why it's Rank Roulette, not Solve the Rank. You're never gonna get the full picture from a 2 minute clip, especially from a game like SC2 where skills develop asymmetrically. We could just be seeing the best or worst 2 minutes of either player's performance, or there could be hidden factors in the early game that could throw off your guess, like that Gold game in UpaTree's episode where both players thought it was much higher than it was because they macroed really well (because as far as the comments could tell both players left each other alone for like 20 minutes). And this is all assuming there's no external factors outside of the game, like smurfing, or climbing the ladder with a new account as you've mentioned, or trolling. Just like a casino game, Rank Roulette is stacked against the players, but that hasn't stopped some from having great scores.
great season the structure was bit weird for the playoffs, normally there would be semifinals for the top 4 and then a final lowko had to get qualified and then win 3 games in a row, crazy :D
Really like Arty and I was rooting for him, happy to see Lowko succeed though and in the end not watching Harstem's amazing content, especially his premier I^3odis series, really got Arty and that's a good lesson to learn. How could he pass on that content it's friggen amazing?
9:38 Artosis was about to pick his nose lol it was kind of removed, also Harstem talking to loko the moment loko takes his head set off -_- he cant hear you bahaha
Is it possible to know the name of the toss player in the round 3 ? i guess it's me but not sure, ( and yeah, i got the build order PvT Zest from Harstem's Casually explained video next to me )
Haven't played starcraft 2 in ages, but as a rather high gold (maybe I was even plat once) I did have multiple hotkey groups ever since release of the game. Though I had played starcraft 1 before.
Lmfao, that ending. "And it cost me 20 bucks to engrave it. Best 20 bucks I ever spent". That's how you know Harstem is a man of the people. Spending 20 euros on a joke.
The sole fact the intro of artosis was mentioning "Bowser's big castle" speaks volumes
ha-ha BBC
Whats the reference?
@@eulefranz944 ever watched an artosis stream?
@@eulefranz944 His stream is filled with Mario tts erotica lol
@@Zoykzmc lmfao
I was watching the second game and I was like "man, this game feels so familiar! I bet this zerg player is in the same league as me", and it took me a while to realize that was the raplay I sent them 😆
Loved to see my game on the show! Thanks for all the videos!
PS: yes, I have serious issues spending my resources and I don't know how I still manage to win games
Have you considered building macro hatches?
You really bent me over on that one, i've never seen such disregard for spending resources in diamond Lol
@@black_squall As someone who just reach Diamond, I can assure you that GM players aren't being hyperbolic when they say that Diamond players have just figured out the very basics of how to play. If you learn the basics of how to macro, you can get to Diamond without scouting or micro
So inspirational, really makes me want to get back into this game. If you can make it to diamond anyone can :p
You got Artosis bro :)))) he thought you are a platinum :)))))))
The discussion for the second match was the best. Artosis saying "Alright, hold on, I got this." while Harmstem sees Lowko's guess in disbelief and then trying to hold in his laughter when Artosis continued with "[...] if I see a 2 come in from you [...]". Then Lowko revealing his guess and Artosis commenting "[...] I was like "I'm gonna crush him, he's gonna put something dumb like Gold 2" [...]" and that ends up being Harmstem's guess. 🤣
24:35 You'd be surprised! I'm brand new to RTS games, and I've been following PiGs videos. Only played about a week and I'm using multiple army / building hotkeys and camera locations. I find a lot of people in my games doing the same
Artosis finishing #2 despite never guessing it
Hopefully he is in the process of reaching #1
Can we just pause for a second and appreciate this beautiful content made by 3 intelligent, witty and humble guys, who - just like us - love the game of starcraft and share the passion with community. Thank you guys and never stop. Merry Christmas!
I wonder which one of the four involved is not considered intelligent, witty and humble? =D
@@ledrash6079 he's talking about Lowko, Artosis and Hamster ofc
I love how serious they take this. Just makes the content that much funnier and enjoyable to watch. Thanks guys
Lowko is the Serral of Rank Roulette
Now Serral is Serral of rank roulette
Thanks for everything this season, Harstem!
This was like the final exam of rank roulette
lowko passed
Artosis and Harstem's committment to the idea that zergs do not have to macro is what really gets me here, Lowko is trying so hard not to get baited. You can feel years of suppressed anger bubbling beneath the surface.
no irony tho. I tried terran - holy crap making units is so stupid hard it's unreal. Not to mention u need to build shit where units are build, like wtf is that how is this playable?
Harstem saying the floating is bait on the second game and that he isn't memeing combined with that guess is just pure Harstem energy.
He was trying to meme since he guessed gold 2 loll
artosis and harstem chemistry is awesome, also lowko is always a great vibe
The intro sells it. Harstem giving passive insults, Lowko cheering and Artosis booing. The energy kept going.
You 3 have the best chemistry. Loved the ep but i would watch whatever you 3 had. Great work as always, big love from Special's hometown Mx 🇲🇽
Best Christmas Gift!!! Rank Roulette Dinner!!!
Soundpack at the end was TB, total biscuit.
Man what a banger of a finals. Those replays were actually hard to judge
I hope it's true Lowko watches every Harstem Video LOL love to see the fellow Dutch support.
8:00 Price is Right rules would help Lowko, because the goal is to have the least points.
It was a lot of fun watching Harstem trying to get a word in and at the just throwing his hands in the air in disbelief.
Love you Hamster
"That was JonSnow vs. Vindicta" oh my god. Absolute savagery from arty
I've been insanely depressed and this video was the first time i've laughed in a while.. Thanks!
Love these videos! 🙂 BTW, the announcer pack was TB’s for the last game.
aw man harstem artosis and lowko together is like seeing metallica megadeth anthrax and slayer at the same show
Big 4 ;)
@@jakubprzybylski6670Hamster is the 4th ofc
Bowsers Big Castle and Peach’s CROURB?! live on. Mario’s pipe wrench getting firmer by the moment.
"about accurate for jonsnow" was hilarious shame the other two weren't listening. killer line
This was a super hard rank roulette episode!
Congrats lowko! Thanks harstem for the excellent content. Sorry if you felt on the back burner lol, too much personality for one show 😅
beautiful stuff! congrats lowko! artosis, youre looking older than than someone born in 82. retirement is knocking, you've done good work
Love this series I wish Day 9 would join up!
oh man
oh man i would really like a viewer participating in this rank roulette, something like people competing each other on rank roulettes and the first place can take place on the championship against the "celebrities" and we can see how well they do.
Could you imagine a viewer getting to the grand final and going toe to toe with idk, Reynor, or lowko, artosis. That would be cool
Carrying the whole content creation on your back Harstem, great job again
Merry Christmas to everyone, ggs to Lowko and Artosis for that final, God I love this series
Great chemistry! Hope you have these two again - maybe in a changeling episode?!
I haven't played starcraft in over 6 months, but I strongly suspect the second game was me. A lot of that game felt very familiar, and all the mistakes highlighted were the usual mistakes that I make. But to be fair I guess a lot of games at my level will look similar to that. Either way, it was exciting to watch!
Hilarious, and excellent entertainment overall! Thank you for another season.
Now just do Lowko/Artosis/Harstem co-ops, they are just THAT good.
talking about the last game, there is a famous uploader on bilibili named 大刺蛇 aka the gaint hydra. He is a gm zerg player who always uses the 2 base swarmhost against protoss after his early game went wrong. Apparently there is a lot of zerg player flowing her style.
I do this as well - however I have to be honest (just purely assessing this game and not attempting to compare to me) - the micro of the SH of this player seemed very low for that build - just all SH launches / no locust micro / nydus was late etc. The DTs are a problem of course but it wasn't a good example of what 'can' be done with this build.
@@MKu64 true. This build became some sort of meta build at the plat diamond league on the cn server
Merry christmas harstem, ur an absolute gem to the community.
Great video Harstem! original concept, challenging, fun. I made some great guesses, got 2 exactly right. :)
My guesses were d3, s1, g3, and p2. 10 total. I expect my queen-sized solid gold trophy in the mail by next week.
I want to say hello to my mom, and tell all of my fans that what brought me here was not hard work, but sheer, pure luck. Git gut, nerds!
Love this, Lowko and Artosis are my favorite of this series
I'd love a cookout with Harstem present. He's so good and tasteful at roasting just about everything.
Really enjoy the banter watching all of these Rank Roulette.
Would love to see a rank roulette where you just throw an absolute wrench into the guessing and just use a bunch of IODIS replay submissions for it (perhaps come clean and put the submission text at the end to prevent people getting too salty, and call it a special unranked episode outside of the regular season)
LOVE this game, please please please continue this series ❤
09:08 "Dude, people who are in Division 2 just haven't played enough games to fall into a 1 or a 3. 🍃🚬🗿" - Artosis, 2022.
*One game later:*
16:10 (L) "Yup, that's the way to do it. 🐸☕️"
(A) "Oh my god! _That's_ Diamond 2?! 🙈"
(H) "And also a '2'. I think that's the real takeaway here 😏."
dude this was super entretaining even without the games :D Big props, congrats to the winner ;)
As a gold 3 player I actually feel competitive with my guesses. This is a lot of fun.
BROWN BREW CREW WHERE YOU AT!!
Not even a 4 page winner's speech ready? C'mon! 😜
I wasn’t surprised the third game was in the metal leagues. The Protoss player used f2 a lot, there many times when the disrupters would just move toward the front with no shots going out. I also feel like the reason why the Protoss player didn’t move even after winning an engagement was because he had no idea what the opponent had.
What a great season! Grats on the win!
A lot of people play league of legends and know how to stutter step but are still terrible at starcraft (such as me). Amazing episode and season of Rank Roulette, sad it will be gone for a while.
That is just pure awesomeness. Thanks for that!
6:59 When you get flashbanged in CS:GO
This was better than the last HomeStory Cup finals 😁
This series is one of the best on youtube purely because harstems commentary
The Grand Finale we all prayed for! Waiting for the next season! (Harstem change description pls)
16 Points today. High-scoring game, but I actually beat the host and one of the guests. If I was cool enough to be a contestant, I probably wouldn’t have been here today anyway, and even if I was, I still would have lost.
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Round 1: D1 (5 Points) - I feel like these are guys who not only understand the basics of the game, but also know how to prioritize their APM and respond quickly. However, they’re still building those responses. Was waffling in which Diamond league to guess, and then guessed D1 because of how action-packed the game was on both sides.
Round 2: G1 (6 Points) - The macro was really bad, but there were two things I really noticed. The marines kiting the ling/bane (and then the complete destruction of the mineral line), and the fact that the Zerg player mixed in Corruptors to fight the BCs. Silver macro, platinum decision-making, I think it’s gold.
Round 3: P2 (3 Points) - The opposite of the last game. Macro was a lot better than everything else. Also went with the “2” based on the last two rounds.
Round 4: D2 (2 Points) - Cheese is gonna get you pretty high up. I also feel like the deficiencies like lack of creep spread don’t really matter. You don’t really need the vision when you’re cheesing, or the movement speed when you’re using Nydus. Both folks were cheesy, so I think that plays a big part.
We really need to see a game from Winter’s low APM challenge runs sometime
This was a lot of fun. Thanks Harstem!
This was so much fun! Thank you for an amazing season.
Best thing is that artosis didn't play season 2 because DUH
Artosis can always try casting the ranked roulette...
31:59 all three of them speak at the exact same time, making what they say completely incomprehensable. but is sounds so funny
Lowko and Artosis on Christmas? Thanks for the Christmas gift Harstem
Awesome season. Im really glad to see lowko win. I hope Harstem engraves something funny or puts something gross in lowko's trophy.
The takeaway from this is that if there seems to be a big difference in skill level between the two players, you should (probably) always go for a league fitting the lesser player. A player is more likely to be in a league below their current skill level, than in a league higher than their current skill level.
A player can also have a very good aspect of their gameplay, such as a clean early game, but be terrible at other aspects, like mid-to-late-game transition and closing out games, which will more often than not lead to them staying in a lower league.
"You can read it as well so Artosis can laugh with us"
You're a content MACHINE!
Loved every episode this season. Gg wp
that "Gold 3" game actually demonstrates a serious flaw within this otherwise AMAZING idea of a series...
...namely that a lot of games might come from otherwise really strong players who are climbing the ladder from a brand-new account, and thus, --
-- still have a lower placement than the one they actually belong to.
Thus, any serious attempts to accurately predict the league / division would be in vain...
That's kinda why it's Rank Roulette, not Solve the Rank. You're never gonna get the full picture from a 2 minute clip, especially from a game like SC2 where skills develop asymmetrically. We could just be seeing the best or worst 2 minutes of either player's performance, or there could be hidden factors in the early game that could throw off your guess, like that Gold game in UpaTree's episode where both players thought it was much higher than it was because they macroed really well (because as far as the comments could tell both players left each other alone for like 20 minutes). And this is all assuming there's no external factors outside of the game, like smurfing, or climbing the ladder with a new account as you've mentioned, or trolling. Just like a casino game, Rank Roulette is stacked against the players, but that hasn't stopped some from having great scores.
@@SaulGoodman3D2049 you're right of course. Still, I think it would be to everyone's benefit if such cases were as rare as possible.
Can't wait for season 4!
great season
the structure was bit weird for the playoffs, normally there would be semifinals for the top 4 and then a final
lowko had to get qualified and then win 3 games in a row, crazy :D
My guesses:
Diamond 2: 4
Platinum 1: 7
Diamond 3: 14
Diamond 3: 14
Yeah, they definitely saved some of the hardest games till last.
Really like Arty and I was rooting for him, happy to see Lowko succeed though and in the end not watching Harstem's amazing content, especially his premier I^3odis series, really got Arty and that's a good lesson to learn. How could he pass on that content it's friggen amazing?
15:15 was the audio clip that plays when people sub on his twitch haha
That was an amazing finals XD
Love this so much
Lowko: That was actually not a bad game
Harstem: *face*
9:38 Artosis was about to pick his nose lol it was kind of removed, also Harstem talking to loko the moment loko takes his head set off -_- he cant hear you bahaha
Loved it!!
"If i see a two come in from you, SHAME!. Dan never change
Artosis has had a great carreer, but his channel is just nothing but vitriol. Very glad it is Lowko that won.
:( I am dia 2 and play quite some games per season, ... damn Artosis does not acknowledge I exist.
But I do watch rank roulette! Great show !
I love this! Y’all always make my day
love how it ends on a super hard episode also :D
Merry Christmas, Captain!
If Harstem and Julie Roberts had a child we may just have a world record mouth
Is it possible to know the name of the toss player in the round 3 ? i guess it's me but not sure, ( and yeah, i got the build order PvT Zest from Harstem's Casually explained video next to me )
I lost it at the end "it cost me 20 bucks to engrave" 🤣
31:08 as opposed to 'high gold low plat' or 'high plat low diamond' - you can redefine as 1 or 3
Haven't played starcraft 2 in ages, but as a rather high gold (maybe I was even plat once) I did have multiple hotkey groups ever since release of the game. Though I had played starcraft 1 before.
We demand season 4 start next week 😁
Omg lowko has a medal?! 🎉🎉🎉
Lmfao, that ending.
"And it cost me 20 bucks to engrave it. Best 20 bucks I ever spent". That's how you know Harstem is a man of the people. Spending 20 euros on a joke.
I mean, he's not wrong... 20 bucks for a beautiful shitpost aren't that much
The description seems a bit off...
Beeing a great rank rouletter is the only way I can be good at anything star craft related
Next season. Hamster make some crazy congratulations graphic for the winner.
Lmao harstem's face when lowko says game 2 was pretty good and they kind of knew what they were doing. 😑😑😑
I like the captains facial expressions. 11/10
A merry Christmas to all!