Hi all! Thanks so much for all the comments and active chat about Kontakt 8. Typically we respond to everything, however, on this occasion we’re more than happy to let the chat develop as it were. Thank you so much for all the positivity and the critical comments about Kontakt 8. You can see and hear my views in the video and after a week or so I’m still very much enjoying the benefits that Kontakt 8 brings! The key one for me is how much of a difference the new GUI has made. As someone with low vision, I’ve found it a lot easier to use. It feels very familiar as it’s more akin to the older Komplete Kontrol in some ways. I do love the features and I have used the tools in recent work this week for publishers. Keep the comments coming and again, thank you so much for viewing and subscribing.
I came here to ask about this. I own a ton of NI products already and have the previous Collector's Edition. Do you think this is worth the upgrade or will Kontakt 7 get me by? I like 7 and it seems to work fine. It looks like, from this, that the biggest update would be the Chords and Phrases MIDI stuff.
I didn't find much difference. There is some extra effects hidden in the mixer which is hidden in default view on 8 for some reason. So honestly if you have a chord generator already, 7 will get you by
Its shocking that Native instruments keeps ignoring the things that composers and producers need when it comes to filtering libraries and visually organizing them.
all those big companies ignore old users as they people who work there are focused on new clients instead of old that is why i love Spectrasonics so much they keep asking the real artists. Also i used to inform to Adobe photoshop developments now they do not even know who i am anymore. its all about money making bot the family we used to be...
Well the most important questions to me are performance and the RAM impact. I really do not care about the new candy stuff. I believe whoever considers to do chord progression in a sound provider software has misunderstood the point of it. And that counts for the developers too.
Music production has simply changed and how people choose to produce music has changed also. When I started producing music you simply had to play the instruments in your track or find someone who could, there were no pre-produced loops and beats. The situation as it stands works great for me because I do play several Instruments and now I get to combine my skill level with those production loops. I mostly use loops for beats. It’s rare that I use other producers melodic content, but on the occasion that I do I’m glad that tools like Chords and Phrases are available. I’m not decrying change, Im embracing it. Either do the same or be left behind. No one is going to go back to the ‘good old days’ or whatever people are calling the time before sampling and looping. people are going to do what works best for them. I can only suggest that you do the same, have fun, and spend as little time as possible worrying about how other people are producing music. If you like it, use it and if you don’t, then don’t.
Do I have to purchase Komplete 15 to make use of the features in Kontact 8 ?? will my Komplete 14 workin Kontact 8 Basically ? Anybody Know??please TY.
I wish resizing had been implemented better, but the Leap Loop Chords Phrases, and other improvements make the 99$ upgrade worth the price. Be interesting to see how developers adapt these new tools.
I’ll upgrade when they make it easier to rout drums. I hate that everything seems to use kontakt. Like why tf GGD requires it I’ll never know but dear got the routing is stupid and convoluted.
Is it true that running Kontakt and it's various vst's is more CPU and ram intensive in relation to just calling up vst's separately in your tracks in a DAW? (I use Reason12) I may need a faster computer with more RAM. This program looks complicated and running it with Reason might push my computer over the edge.
"user friendly" nope, now you have 3 GUI options to choose from, very confusing indeed, the non NKS compatible library view was already in kontakt 7, there are also videos on youtube on how to make your personal thumbnails for them they also didnt tackle the small font in the KSP editor, wich because of my age i cant see very well, maybe ill invest in a magnifying glass like with what they have done with ms windows, they made it worse than better, but thats my personal view, cheers mate
Still annoys me that I gave to be advertised in the bottom panel and close it out to get more space I’m trying to work not be distracted that’s why I’ve selected the plugin.. I get enough mails from them already promoting their next gizmatics and instruments. Apart that it seems like a great update.. 😀
And there is still no way to shortcut the purge - options. I think NI is not listening to customers. They blow up Kontakt with new Stuff, but don't care about the usability. Maybe in Kontakt 9 next year...
Leap is a straight up Copy of Arcade. I thought it may load up the Mashine Packs at first. I see no real new features. For the sound engine so why should any vendor needs to make new Instruments. Its mostly just GUI Features. I love the Chord and Phrase features but these should have been seberate plugins for you daw not just for Kontakt itself. I like the new "normal" view with the integrated previews that where just in the library view in 7.
Just as I was getting used to Kontakt 7 Player. Now it's a MESS. Nothing in even puts out a sound, unless I choose an instrument I already had in 7. It switches to the old interface then I hear something. Waste of my time~!
Next steps I can see NI making, is adding Ai to it. You tell the Ai what you’re looking for and the sounds you want, it combines things it finds in your library together for you to do whatever you want with. I use Suno a lot and like the inspiration it gives. Would be great to get that locally though like we can with many AI tools.
That is not a future i want to live in... I don't want an AI picking my sounds or browsing my orchestral libraries for me. That is something i enjoy doing myself... The community is already losing the art of programming custom sounds with all the presets. Now we're also lose looking for presets? "The cost of creating content is close to zero" - Daniel Ek (Spotify CEO)
Exactly. If NI sent it to me for free, I might use it, even make a video... NI more and more just seem to offer us a Kartoon driven bloatware rompler choked with legacy content. Pretty graphics? Frankly, Gigasampler from 1998 had a more streamlined UI. If it looks like another day long process to reinstall gigis and gigs of content I never use just to get a very few 'instruments' that turn out to simply be a new JPEG and 5 samples from some DJ of the moment, I'll pass again.
But you are indeed aware you losing the ability to use any new libraries that have come out within the last 5 to 5 1/2 years of using the old technology?
@@thesampleist I am, indeed. But so far, everything new I have been using since works fine with the Kontakt Player versions. I have not bought so many new libraries lately anyway. The only thing I would like to have is VST3 support, as Kontakt 5 is the last remaining plugin in my list that still needs the VST 2.x API. But that alone isn't worth the upgrade price for me.
Just asking the question: "should I upgrade" is an expression that you have not fully understood what is going on. This is quite simple, if you want access to future libraries and upgrades of the existing ones, you upgrade your contact. Otherwise you will be left on the platform. And so it is with all software companies. Which leaves us with another pointless video created solely to generate traffic for the creator.
On the surface you are absolutely correct but in practice you would be surprised that the number of people that are still running Kontakt 6 and Kontakt 7. I happen to have friends who are professional composers as well that do not want to upgrade past version six and take the chance that they will disrupt their templates. It seems like a straightforward decision but for some it’s still is a quandary.
@@danielbaronne753 And you do know you can ignore an comment right. But on the other hand, if we stop arguing against stupidity, we will end up with Trump as president.
Hi all! Thanks so much for all the comments and active chat about Kontakt 8. Typically we respond to everything, however, on this occasion we’re more than happy to let the chat develop as it were. Thank you so much for all the positivity and the critical comments about Kontakt 8. You can see and hear my views in the video and after a week or so I’m still very much enjoying the benefits that Kontakt 8 brings! The key one for me is how much of a difference the new GUI has made. As someone with low vision, I’ve found it a lot easier to use. It feels very familiar as it’s more akin to the older Komplete Kontrol in some ways. I do love the features and I have used the tools in recent work this week for publishers. Keep the comments coming and again, thank you so much for viewing and subscribing.
I feel like Kontakt 8 should have been a free update for previous owners of Kontakt 7. It doesnt feel like a lot has changed.
@@CarlitoProductions Agreed!!
@@greedokenobi3855 Agree also!
I came here to ask about this. I own a ton of NI products already and have the previous Collector's Edition. Do you think this is worth the upgrade or will Kontakt 7 get me by? I like 7 and it seems to work fine. It looks like, from this, that the biggest update would be the Chords and Phrases MIDI stuff.
I didn't find much difference. There is some extra effects hidden in the mixer which is hidden in default view on 8 for some reason. So honestly if you have a chord generator already, 7 will get you by
@@CarlitoProductions Awesome, thanks so much; that confirms it for me lol
Its shocking that Native instruments keeps ignoring the things that composers and producers need when it comes to filtering libraries and visually organizing them.
all those big companies ignore old users as they people who work there are focused on new clients instead of old that is why i love Spectrasonics so much they keep asking the real artists. Also i used to inform to Adobe photoshop developments now they do not even know who i am anymore. its all about money making bot the family we used to be...
you need to get used to the new way.
don't get left behind.
I had 14ce and now spending all day downloading 15ce. Appreciating vids like these in the meantime. Good stuff.
Thanks kindly for this insight. I always look forward to your thoughts on these great tools and sounds.
Take care. 😃
I like the new content. It's fun. I'm glad I upgraded.
So now Spotify will have a billion "remixes" of Leap expansions... yay.
The best review out so far
Thank you! We’re very glad that you enjoyed it.
Well the most important questions to me are performance and the RAM impact. I really do not care about the new candy stuff. I believe whoever considers to do chord progression in a sound provider software has misunderstood the point of it. And that counts for the developers too.
Music production has simply changed and how people choose to produce music has changed also. When I started producing music you simply had to play the instruments in your track or find someone who could, there were no pre-produced loops and beats. The situation as it stands works great for me because I do play several Instruments and now I get to combine my skill level with those production loops. I mostly use loops for beats. It’s rare that I use other producers melodic content, but on the occasion that I do I’m glad that tools like Chords and Phrases are available.
I’m not decrying change, Im embracing it. Either do the same or be left behind. No one is going to go back to the ‘good old days’ or whatever people are calling the time before sampling and looping. people are going to do what works best for them. I can only suggest that you do the same, have fun, and spend as little time as possible worrying about how other people are producing music. If you like it, use it and if you don’t, then don’t.
Looks promising!!! Thanks!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
Do I have to purchase Komplete 15 to make use of the features in Kontact 8 ?? will my Komplete 14 workin Kontact 8 Basically ? Anybody Know??please TY.
@@TheDrVoice hello. You need to either purchase an upgrade to Kontakt 8 or upgrade your Komplete to version 15 with Komplete 8 inside.
I wish resizing had been implemented better, but the Leap Loop Chords Phrases, and other improvements make the 99$ upgrade worth the price. Be interesting to see how developers adapt these new tools.
Is it now vector graphics?? Are all GUI labels on third party libraries now sharp??
Can you still see/use the snapshots? Because they are cateogrized in many libraries but it seems that the "preset" window is just A-Z in Kontakt 8
Yes you can still use snapshots because they are part of the instrument that you are using.
Is Kontakt 8 buggy for anyone else? Since installing it, I’ve tried to do a batch resave in standalone 3 times and it crashed each time.
I’ll upgrade when they make it easier to rout drums. I hate that everything seems to use kontakt. Like why tf GGD requires it I’ll never know but dear got the routing is stupid and convoluted.
Is it true that running Kontakt and it's various vst's is more CPU and ram intensive in relation to just calling up vst's separately in your tracks in a DAW? (I use Reason12) I may need a faster computer with more RAM. This program looks complicated and running it with Reason might push my computer over the edge.
"user friendly" nope, now you have 3 GUI options to choose from, very confusing indeed, the non NKS compatible library view was already in kontakt 7, there are also videos on youtube on how to make your personal thumbnails for them
they also didnt tackle the small font in the KSP editor, wich because of my age i cant see very well, maybe ill invest in a magnifying glass
like with what they have done with ms windows, they made it worse than better, but thats my personal view, cheers mate
Spot on.
Kithara comes with Komplete, not Kontakt.
I heard that if I don't upgrade it, I can't use it. Is that true? 😢😢😢
So anyway, I'm sticking with Kontakt 6 haha
X2
Does Kontact 8 use Komplete 14 ???
Actually, we're not composing anything anymore, we're becoming DJs because everything is already composed for us at this pace aha 😄
Still annoys me that I gave to be advertised in the bottom panel and close it out to get more space I’m trying to work not be distracted that’s why I’ve selected the plugin.. I get enough mails from them already promoting their next gizmatics and instruments. Apart that it seems like a great update.. 😀
HOW MUCH MONEY??? No. I think I'll stick with K14CE for the next couple of years at least.
And there is still no way to shortcut the purge - options. I think NI is not listening to customers. They blow up Kontakt with new Stuff, but don't care about the usability. Maybe in Kontakt 9 next year...
Leap is a straight up Copy of Arcade. I thought it may load up the Mashine Packs at first.
I see no real new features. For the sound engine so why should any vendor needs to make new Instruments.
Its mostly just GUI Features. I love the Chord and Phrase features but these should have been seberate plugins for you daw not just for Kontakt itself.
I like the new "normal" view with the integrated previews that where just in the library view in 7.
LOL. This is a free update right?
I'm sure upgrades will be cut in half during black Friday. I don't think I'd pay full price for this upgrade, it doesn't feel like much has changed
@CommentingOnUA-cam Not for all. Some third party libs requires full Kontakt version.
Just as I was getting used to Kontakt 7 Player. Now it's a MESS. Nothing in even puts out a sound, unless I choose an instrument I already had in 7. It switches to the old interface then I hear something. Waste of my time~!
Next steps I can see NI making, is adding Ai to it. You tell the Ai what you’re looking for and the sounds you want, it combines things it finds in your library together for you to do whatever you want with. I use Suno a lot and like the inspiration it gives. Would be great to get that locally though like we can with many AI tools.
That is not a future i want to live in... I don't want an AI picking my sounds or browsing my orchestral libraries for me. That is something i enjoy doing myself...
The community is already losing the art of programming custom sounds with all the presets. Now we're also lose looking for presets?
"The cost of creating content is close to zero" - Daniel Ek (Spotify CEO)
No full Size screen. A shame.
Exactly. If NI sent it to me for free, I might use it, even make a video... NI more and more just seem to offer us a Kartoon driven bloatware rompler choked with legacy content. Pretty graphics? Frankly, Gigasampler from 1998 had a more streamlined UI. If it looks like another day long process to reinstall gigis and gigs of content I never use just to get a very few 'instruments' that turn out to simply be a new JPEG and 5 samples from some DJ of the moment, I'll pass again.
No, it takes ages to load a new instance of Kontakt 8 horrible:-(
So, still nothing really interesting that would justify my upgrading from Kontakt 5.
But you are indeed aware you losing the ability to use any new libraries that have come out within the last 5 to 5 1/2 years of using the old technology?
@@thesampleist I am, indeed. But so far, everything new I have been using since works fine with the Kontakt Player versions. I have not bought so many new libraries lately anyway.
The only thing I would like to have is VST3 support, as Kontakt 5 is the last remaining plugin in my list that still needs the VST 2.x API. But that alone isn't worth the upgrade price for me.
Another paid update after 7 … that’s not happening
Just asking the question: "should I upgrade" is an expression that you have not fully understood what is going on. This is quite simple, if you want access to future libraries and upgrades of the existing ones, you upgrade your contact. Otherwise you will be left on the platform. And so it is with all software companies. Which leaves us with another pointless video created solely to generate traffic for the creator.
On the surface you are absolutely correct but in practice you would be surprised that the number of people that are still running Kontakt 6 and Kontakt 7. I happen to have friends who are professional composers as well that do not want to upgrade past version six and take the chance that they will disrupt their templates. It seems like a straightforward decision but for some it’s still is a quandary.
You do know you can ignore a video if you want to, right?
@@danielbaronne753 And you do know you can ignore an comment right. But on the other hand, if we stop arguing against stupidity, we will end up with Trump as president.
@@thesampleist Yes. But sooner or later, a newer synth will appear that they won't be able to install due to incompatibility
@@Zerpio Why would i care if Trump becomes president?I am not american
No
Thanks for warning us. Anyways no needs for cheap sounds
It's pronounced "Bay-ta" silly English ka-niggets (Monty Python) lol. Love from across the pond. Thanks for doing this.
Looks like the same antiquated Windows 98 vibe as 7. (Except the newest libraries won't be intentionally outdated as the older stuff will be). 🥱
Was für eine blöde Frage… natürlich nicht.