They seemingly are and much more so. …especially when compared against this U.S. model that’s being driven by finance capitalism principles only. This Anglo American led iteration of capitalism is obviously rendering itself incompatible with the VAST MAJORITY of humanity. Nationalism aside this should be a sign.
@willengel2458 even NVIDIA's CEO.. Chinese.. not indian... indian only talk big, but cannot deliver.. at first they probably looks good, but in time, people will know they only talk big. (read: lie) .. of course not all.. but Majority.
A more humanistic approach to AI-wow! This is the kind of team I want to hang out with. With such passion, they'll go far. The exploitative and profit-driven minds will have to change.
This is the difference between Chinese business and American business: American businesses hit you the maximum they can, while Chinese businesses only charge the customers a "reasonable" amount of profit
Isso funciona pois a China é socialista. A necessidade de acúmulo e multiplicação do lucro no sistema capitalista impede o crescimento geral do povo. Socialismo é o caminho.
wow what a mindset and approach. Imagine if this mentality would be the dominant mentality of our civilisation. The main feeling that would be felt every day would be curiosity, excietement. We would make it to the stars within less than 100 years. Thank you for providing that interview - Im looking forward to what else those people will move and trigger - just be being brilliant and not evil and greedy.
👊😆So, your saying Deep Seek is the New Bruce Lee of Ai ? Maybe they should call it Deep Lee or Jeet Kun Ai (BruceLDS) "You must train every part of your body" (Chuck Norris Chat GTP) "Your Ai Kung Fu is impressive ( Bruce LDS) " I don't hit. It hit's by itself. Be like water my friend"😊.....lets get the memes poppin like champagne.
Deepseek $6 million against USA $500 billions AI…hohoho what a joke…this only show how good brilliant Chinese engineers, mathematicians & scientists are compared to the USA.😮😮😮
Do we actually know how much they spent developing their AI? I'd say the goal in telling the world it cost so very little is likely their way of serving up a large slice of humble pie and nothing more. And I like the 'swift kick in the a..' effect it has on the many players in AI! :b
Of course it's a scam... The vast amount of revenue collected from investments IS DIRECTLY correlated to share prices. The same goes for large Civil Projects (many Western Nations), Western Corporations don't have to charge an artificially inflated price. But they do and gov't WILL pay.
from deep seek： Marking the Boat to Find the Sword** Once upon a time, in the ancient state of Chu, a man was crossing a river in a small boat. As he was enjoying the journey, his prized sword suddenly slipped from his belt and fell into the water. The man quickly took out a knife and made a mark on the side of the boat, right at the spot where the sword had fallen. The other passengers on the boat were puzzled and asked, "Why are you marking the boat?" The man confidently replied, "This is where my sword fell into the water. When the boat reaches the shore, I will use this mark to find my sword." The passengers shook their heads in disbelief but said nothing more. When the boat finally reached the shore, the man eagerly jumped out and began searching for his sword at the exact spot he had marked on the boat. Of course, he found nothing, as the boat had moved far from the place where the sword had fallen. The man’s actions became a lesson for everyone: clinging to old methods without considering changing circumstances is futile.
You know about halfway through high-end chips were mentioned as one of the reasons why they can't advance so what if this is just a ploy to put pressure on those that want to make money regardless of the ethics involved or morality and they think that enough pressure will be put that the US will make it easier to obtain these high-end chips again it wouldn't surprise me if that's what it turned out to be an elaborate ruse but I could be wrong that's just my not so humble opinion and run on sentence
Seeking the truth and for the betterment of people will you truly succeed and get the recognition you deserve. Nvidia became too commercial and got exposed that it's main objective was to lock everyone into buying their overpriced hardware forcing app developers to use Cuda to monopolize the market. Next Nvidia will be hit hard as a new form of Network based on ethernet will erode Mellanox monopoly on the network. Arista is a good company to buy;). People still don't know that you really don't need such high super computing resources in realtime. All the processing can be done pre training. GPU was originally to speed up graphics. China already have super computers and quantum computers which can achieve similar specs. You can do AI on a PC with Deepseek because in the future we will use a peer to peer style utlization of GPU computing. Don't let NVidia force you down a pyramid scheme of computing style.
Excellent video. CNBC did have some good shows on this subject, but interjected too many personal biases and opinions. This translated interview is straight from the horse's mouth so to speak.
They say they did not copy but they built DeepSeek using Chat GPT4 to train it. So when you ask DeepSeek what version it is it will tell you Chat GPT4. I for one am not impressed with DeepSeek but am glad they allow access to their AI. Thanks
you got it all wrong....they did not say that...they say they want to innovate but have nothing against copying...in fact u need to copy first before innovating...reinventing the wheel is stupid...no? and also that is why they open sourced so others can copy them in turn the incremental innovation they created
Was that an AI narrative? If it's a human, they need to spend a little more time and practice pronouncing words they don't understand by looking at UA-cam "how do you pronounce" section. Guang-dong isn't that hard to pronounce.
I am a Chinese bourn American citizen. I am proud of my citizenship and my adoptive mother land. I am also proud of my inheritance from my ancestors. One thing I will never forget is how the CCP has destroyed our freedom and lives in generations. Never CCP!
Without CCP China would be another India , may be worst environment in all you could imagine. One Man one Vote are merely oligarchs ways to hypnotised and framed you to continue to be manipulated , exploited and extorted . Dream on !!
I am a uk citizen ( was Born and grew up in China) and staying in Qionghai, Hainan , China. I , just like at least over 90% of Chinese ( home and abroad) , love the CCP and our motherland.
@@HaderYepping it is a badge of honor to be a self-hating chinese...similar to the self-hating jew...since both groups are prone to be demonized for centuries due to jealousy and scapegoating...and often ends up suffering from stolkholm syndrome...athough this would not ever cross the mind of the e person himself as the brainwashig is total...this comes with the territory of being meek, hardworking and intelligent...the jews have since rise above these difficulties and the hapless chinese have become the new jews... hoepfully what doesnt kill u only makes u stronger...and justice will prevail...keep up the good work promoting the underdog
This was from around half a year ago, notice how they were discussing an older version - DeepSeek v2, not R1 in the conversation. Them lowering the prices back then was already affecting the other AI players in China, like bytedance.
Original interview :mp.weixin.qq.com/s/r9zZaEgqAa_lml_fOEZmjg
2024年07月17日
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2024-July-17
The best Chinese CEOs are philosophical, pragmatic and humanistic.
American CEOs are psychopaths and warmongers.
They seemingly are and much more so. …especially when compared against this U.S. model that’s being driven by finance capitalism principles only. This Anglo American led iteration of capitalism is obviously rendering itself incompatible with the VAST MAJORITY of humanity. Nationalism aside this should be a sign.
DeepSeek vs OpenAI == Talent Chinese in China VS Talent Chinese in US.
don't you need to give credit to Endians or other Asians?
@@willengel2458 their iq is only 75
us India and Asian, china Asian.
@willengel2458 ，yes they are also talented, but is it because there are too few Chinese people in the team?
@willengel2458 even NVIDIA's CEO.. Chinese.. not indian... indian only talk big, but cannot deliver.. at first they probably looks good, but in time, people will know they only talk big. (read: lie) .. of course not all.. but Majority.
Never underestimate 1.4 billion Chineses potential innovation
West always perceived that only whites can innovate due to their so called fake liberal society
Never underestimate YOUNG Chinese's capabilities.
The harder the West tried to suppress Chinese ingenuity, the stronger Chinese become.
easily beat 300mil villagers :)
@@hocyrusgreat9324 determination of patriotic Chinese youth n not those traitors who migrated to US n the West👍
"Being followed is a badge of honor".... This statement explains everything 😮 this statement is carrying lots of weight
he means, been copied
Thank you for making this video and sharing the original Chinese article. That article is very inspiring! 👍
梁文锋的思想在哲学性和历史性上已经具备了高度，我第一次在一个技术领域的高手身上看见这些特点。
眼里是星辰大海，和openai都不在一个量级, 搞谋杀的主
梁文锋 is totally grounded and sincere wow，no airs of grandiose demeanor
Congratulations 🥳 China 🇨🇳 u are the smartest people in the world 🌎
USA AI: political
Chinese AI: cultural
A more humanistic approach to AI-wow! This is the kind of team I want to hang out with. With such passion, they'll go far. The exploitative and profit-driven minds will have to change.
This is the difference between Chinese business and American business:
American businesses hit you the maximum they can, while Chinese businesses only charge the customers a "reasonable" amount of profit
Isso funciona pois a China é socialista. A necessidade de acúmulo e multiplicação do lucro no sistema capitalista impede o crescimento geral do povo. Socialismo é o caminho.
OpenAI is not open.
DeepSeek is open. 🙂
Open source is the key.
To HaderYep.
Thanks for publishing the interview of DeepSeek's founder to our attention.
wow what a mindset and approach. Imagine if this mentality would be the dominant mentality of our civilisation. The main feeling that would be felt every day would be curiosity, excietement. We would make it to the stars within less than 100 years. Thank you for providing that interview - Im looking forward to what else those people will move and trigger - just be being brilliant and not evil and greedy.
Totally agree with you
instead the most powerful today are small-minded and petty
What wisdom! Thank you for this translation, which is sorely avoided nearly every panic troll defending Mag 7 and Captain Corporate America!
Thanks a lot for this translation!
These 2 didn't say anything negative about USA and its western allies. I expected them to be recentful of the west.... This is great
Expected of a Chinese, humbleness and humility.
@ whereas the walking orange 🍊 trump can’t say anything but the worst about our Eastern allies.
China: deepseek!
World: deepshock!
OpenAI: deepwreck!
Investors: deepshit!
American politicians: deepsick! 😂😂😂😂
#Seekers
I love it, perfectly put it 🤣🤣🤣
So funny ,haha
Harvey: deepspoton!
Standing ovation 👏👏👏👏👏
No surprise here. Just imagine a Western company going to China to produce bags costing $100 each, then selling them globally for $2,000 per bag.
Soon luxury goods will be exposed as industrial garbage, no more bubbles. Just like AI bubble hit by Deepseek
amazing! Thank you!
人帥又幽默...都講到點上
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Thank you my friend.
這採訪真的蠻具有啟發性的..
Thanks for posting. Interesting to listen and understand Deepseek top guy interview.
Very inspiring! Don’t be normal.
Thanks for this very interesting video. Keep up the good work!
I was waiting for China to kick off America's boots . DeepSeek AI #1
Lets goooooooooo Deepseek AI.
Thanks Hader
Great post mAn
China number one dude. Seriously.
Respect ❤❤
👊😆So, your saying Deep Seek is the New Bruce Lee of Ai ? Maybe they should call it Deep Lee or Jeet Kun Ai (BruceLDS) "You must train every part of your body" (Chuck Norris Chat GTP) "Your Ai Kung Fu is impressive ( Bruce LDS) " I don't hit. It hit's by itself. Be like water my friend"😊.....lets get the memes poppin like champagne.
🤣🤣🤣
Finally, Chinese translate to English
谢谢你好朋友，我特地翻墙来看你的视频，希望你有机会能来中国玩，我们中国人都很喜欢你
Wow Dude. Very well done. I truly enjoy the interview.
thank you dude.
永远相信一个（至少5000年）能延续至今的文明，对于欧美那些，我们可以算是史前文明了，期待外星人，不如期待《道德经》显示的哲学思想，地球太小，宇宙很大
Most people will believe something when they see it, a few visionaries can see certain things when they believe in them.
Deepseek $6 million against USA $500 billions AI…hohoho what a joke…this only show how good brilliant Chinese engineers, mathematicians & scientists are compared to the USA.😮😮😮
+2 social credits
social credit is for people who borrow money and not pay back. u need to go out of the fake news
with limited resources too
Do we actually know how much they spent developing their AI? I'd say the goal in telling the world it cost so very little is likely their way of serving up a large slice of humble pie and nothing more. And I like the 'swift kick in the a..' effect it has on the many players in AI! :b
what a great interview, tks a lot
“当我听到中国已经迎头赶上了，我持怀疑态度；当我听到你提到民主，我知道我们已经被超越了”
昨天我也看到了這評論了
🤫在十五年前左右中国已经在讨论人工智能，当时的说法是“大数据”时代就是现在说的AI，这需要大量电力和快速的网络，中国的重点在于如何使用，比如让机器人学习应用在制造当中，美国的是关注在比如做视频和小说之类的东西。这种东西在十几年前中国的一个小说网站已经做到，只要给它关键词就可以给你写一篇小说，我一直在说美国的ai是大骗局一直没人相信，只是没想到这个泡沫这么快就要破了
Cool bro
This young man's mentality makes the money chasing clowns of the US AI cartel like total idiots.
Of course it's a scam... The vast amount of revenue collected from investments IS DIRECTLY correlated to share prices.
The same goes for large Civil Projects (many Western Nations), Western Corporations don't have to charge an artificially inflated price. But they do and gov't WILL pay.
AI只是这个公司的业余业务，量化交易才是主业
知道我为什么关注你吗？
因为人长得帅，而且睿智、正直。
Brother Thank you , But I'm not handsome, intelligent😂😂👍👍
@@HaderYepping誇你有品格😊
@@HaderYepping 高尚品格比外表更吸引人。。。帅不帅不重要🎉😊
Nice! I learned a lot from your video.
"Modest profit above costs"... The West: 🤯
用小钱办大事，世界共享
The fruits are still young... Long way off from harvesting stage.. China's just warming up..
Happy New Year 🎉
Who woulda thought, if people CARE and intrinsically motivated about their job, they do better.
Touching interview
China : Deepseek 😂
Silicon valley: Deepshit😮
dont get how 'carving a mark on a moving boat to find a lost sword' means 'clinging to outdated methods'
from deep seek： Marking the Boat to Find the Sword**
Once upon a time, in the ancient state of Chu, a man was crossing a river in a small boat. As he was enjoying the journey, his prized sword suddenly slipped from his belt and fell into the water. The man quickly took out a knife and made a mark on the side of the boat, right at the spot where the sword had fallen.
The other passengers on the boat were puzzled and asked, "Why are you marking the boat?"
The man confidently replied, "This is where my sword fell into the water. When the boat reaches the shore, I will use this mark to find my sword."
The passengers shook their heads in disbelief but said nothing more.
When the boat finally reached the shore, the man eagerly jumped out and began searching for his sword at the exact spot he had marked on the boat. Of course, he found nothing, as the boat had moved far from the place where the sword had fallen.
The man’s actions became a lesson for everyone: clinging to old methods without considering changing circumstances is futile.
villagers like you wouldn't possibly understand Chinese nuances.
@ sorry master up in the ivory tower. have some tea and chill
@@lancewood1410. Wow! Conceited much?🙄
@@lamdao1242 another village clown 🤣
Competition is great!
deepseek # 1
Nice vid bro!
太帅了兄弟
Love his attitude, hate monopoly capitalism, hope he wins
Dont worry , he will/ China win.
You know about halfway through high-end chips were mentioned as one of the reasons why they can't advance so what if this is just a ploy to put pressure on those that want to make money regardless of the ethics involved or morality and they think that enough pressure will be put that the US will make it easier to obtain these high-end chips again it wouldn't surprise me if that's what it turned out to be an elaborate ruse but I could be wrong that's just my not so humble opinion and run on sentence
Seeking the truth and for the betterment of people will you truly succeed and get the recognition you deserve. Nvidia became too commercial and got exposed that it's main objective was to lock everyone into buying their overpriced hardware forcing app developers to use Cuda to monopolize the market. Next Nvidia will be hit hard as a new form of Network based on ethernet will erode Mellanox monopoly on the network. Arista is a good company to buy;). People still don't know that you really don't need such high super computing resources in realtime. All the processing can be done pre training. GPU was originally to speed up graphics. China already have super computers and quantum computers which can achieve similar specs. You can do AI on a PC with Deepseek because in the future we will use a peer to peer style utlization of GPU computing. Don't let NVidia force you down a pyramid scheme of computing style.
Please ask deepseek it's opinions on that C-3PO twin bro. korean go player please 🤣🙏🙏😬
Cold 🥶
我想知道，可跳过的广告如果点了跳过，还会给up计算收入么
yes, a little bit
Excellent video. CNBC did have some good shows on this subject, but interjected too many personal biases and opinions. This translated interview is straight from the horse's mouth so to speak.
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They say they did not copy but they built DeepSeek using Chat GPT4 to train it. So when you ask DeepSeek what version it is it will tell you Chat GPT4. I for one am not impressed with DeepSeek but am glad they allow access to their AI. Thanks
you got it all wrong....they did not say that...they say they want to innovate but have nothing against copying...in fact u need to copy first before innovating...reinventing the wheel is stupid...no? and also that is why they open sourced so others can copy them in turn the incremental innovation they created
Was that an AI narrative? If it's a human, they need to spend a little more time and practice pronouncing words they don't understand by looking at UA-cam "how do you pronounce" section. Guang-dong isn't that hard to pronounce.
八戒Wife
網絡上，正在全方位打壓😂😂😂
但是，穩定股市後，大户必走貨。
美國人不質問，政府用巨大金去了那裡？
The minute this guy used the word "bro", I moved on to someone who can articulate without "bro" So dumb and ignorant
broooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ua-cam.com/users/liveJq3egQZmyas?si=T6PEccJpcZRfgLgY😊
小红帽有什么寓意吗？😅
他是穆斯林
Brother , I getting bald 😂😂so wearing hat .
@@ryuuyou4950 this is true too .
@@HaderYepping 抱歉😂😂😂，你好幽默
ua-cam.com/video/yvGSGlwAqr8/v-deo.htmlsi=43LdzRP9wOK3ezOS
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
That thing you did at the beginning of the video...never do that again
I like it
I am a Chinese bourn American citizen. I am proud of my citizenship and my adoptive mother land. I am also proud of my inheritance from my ancestors. One thing I will never forget is how the CCP has destroyed our freedom and lives in generations. Never CCP!
You're sad, Self hate chinese , You as a Chinese should love china and the system.
Without CCP China would be another India , may be worst environment in all you could imagine. One Man one Vote are merely oligarchs ways to hypnotised and framed you to continue to be manipulated , exploited and extorted . Dream on !!
I am a uk citizen ( was Born and grew up in China) and staying in Qionghai, Hainan , China. I , just like at least over 90% of Chinese ( home and abroad) , love the CCP and our motherland.
@@HaderYeppingvery well said. Without the well governance of the govt, China won't be what it is now. The guy is pathetic and stupid.
@@HaderYepping it is a badge of honor to be a self-hating chinese...similar to the self-hating jew...since both groups are prone to be demonized for centuries due to jealousy and scapegoating...and often ends up suffering from stolkholm syndrome...athough this would not ever cross the mind of the e person himself as the brainwashig is total...this comes with the territory of being meek, hardworking and intelligent...the jews have since rise above these difficulties and the hapless chinese have become the new jews... hoepfully what doesnt kill u only makes u stronger...and justice will prevail...keep up the good work promoting the underdog
哈哈哈哈
😀😀😀😀😀😀
I don't see any interview on chinese Social media.i think its fake
This was from around half a year ago, notice how they were discussing an older version - DeepSeek v2, not R1 in the conversation. Them lowering the prices back then was already affecting the other AI players in China, like bytedance.
我也没看过这篇专访。感谢Hader！
原来幻方已经做了16年。
这就不奇怪了，的确，20年前，中国的科研界已经对美国去魅了。
中国自建国起就推动扫盲运动、开展九年义务教育。人才，始终都是创新的第一驱动力。
中国已经基本进入小康阶段，国人已经开始挣脱“拜金”大潮的吸力。社会有了释放个性的空间，科研界尤其可以天马行空。
相信幻方这样的初创团队会越来越多--事实上，其他领域，艺术、体育、娱乐，已经有无数个幻方。
十年树木，百年树人；现在进入开花结果的时代。
下一场技术革命，正在工业革命末期暗流涌动。
所谓厚积薄发，该当如是。
THE HEART OF DeepSeek IS A GIRL BORN AFTER 1995
Luo FuLi is not the CEO but a leading developer. The CEO may be the 40 year-old founder , Liang Wenfeng.
@@YZR1
Reportedly Fuli has been poached by Xiaomi to head its AI development team with an annual remuneration of Y10 million.
@@SoonYumThis is just the marketing of Xiaomi company, and it is not the core talents that have been dug up.
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