Punic Sicilian Wars - The Battle of Himera (480 BC) DOCUMENTARY

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  • A history documentary on the Battle of Himera in the First Punic Sicilian War. Claim your SPECIAL OFFER for MagellanTV here: try.magellantv.com/invicta. Start your free trial TODAY so you can watch "World's Greatest Ships" about iconic naval vessels and the rest of MagellanTV’s documentary collection: www.magellantv.com/series/wor...
    Long before Carthage and Rome faced off in the climactic Punic Wars for control of the Mediterranean, the island of Sicily played host to a series of 7 great wars between the Carthaginians and the Greeks. But to understand these Punic Sicilian Wars we must first understand the nature of the region. The documentary begins with an exploration of the geography and history of Sicily before tracing the stages which progressively drew Carthage into this theater of operations.
    The First Punic Sicilian War would eventually break out when the Dorian Greek tyrants, Theron and Gelon, threatened to lay claim to the island of Sicily. In response, Ionian Greeks called upon Carthage for help. The Punic Senate was all to happy to oblige and now sent a massive invasion force under the command of Hamilcar the First. This assault from the west would coincide with the Persian Invasion on the Greek homeland in the east under King Xerxes.
    We then follow the campaign in Sicily which culminates in the climactic battle of Himera in 409 BC! You can learn more about the armies of Carthage through our Units of History episodes:
    The Sacred Band of Carthage : • Units of History - The...
    Carthaginian War Elephants : • Units of History - Car...
    Numidian Cavalry : • Units of History - The...
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    Sources and Suggested Reading:
    "The Carthaginians" by Dexter Hoyos
    "Carthage's Other Wars" by Dexter Hoyos
    "Carthage Must Be Destroyed" by Richard Miles
    Credit:
    Research = Vaughan Fenton
    Script = Vaughn Fenton
    Narration = Invicta
    Art = Penta Limited
    #history
    #documentary
    #military

КОМЕНТАРІ • 267

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  Рік тому +8

    Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/A7q8BVfFurM/v-deo.html

  • @GothPaoki
    @GothPaoki Рік тому +299

    The greek colonization of Sicily and their interactions with the local population is a very interesting topic ( that's basically hundreds of years of coexistence between them) one that deserves a video on it's own.

    • @svendb7
      @svendb7 Рік тому +6

      I wonder what all the ancient people groups were like

    • @zamzamazawarma928
      @zamzamazawarma928 Рік тому +16

      Good thing you didn't put "peaceful" before "coexistence". I mean, the locals, yeah, they got along quite nice, like always. The leaders? Those who held the blades? Those who held the land? Those who talked to the gods? Those who sent ships sailing from one end of the sea to the other? Those are the ones who sent their boys maul each other at Himera (and so many other places).

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki Рік тому +12

      @@zamzamazawarma928 i mean coexistence doesn't have to be peaceful.

    • @girthbrooks39
      @girthbrooks39 Рік тому

      @@GothPaoki true as that may be, can you think of a more appropriate, less petty squabble that could have been used as the open door to release unto the world that passionate dramatic retort he had burning inside of his heart, begging to be let out? Nothing like a hypothetical disagreement in the yt comment section to showcase his magnum opus. When opportunities are scare, create your own and choose the brightest stage.

    • @thalmoragent9344
      @thalmoragent9344 Рік тому

      @@GothPaoki
      True, although depending on the kind of "coexistence", it can be hard if not peaceful.

  • @FortunateXpat
    @FortunateXpat Рік тому +27

    I have a small apartment in Sicily, about a 10 minute drive from Ancient Solunto. The existing ruins, up on top of a hill are amazing to visit. One can still see the influence of all the previous civilizations. Phoenician, Greek and Roman. The city layout is primarily Greek, but one can see the Roman influences in the surviving mosaic floors and traces on Roman red paint on some of the walls.

  • @jvl4832
    @jvl4832 Рік тому +31

    A very concise overview of a complex political situation. I just visited Sicily and its many archeological sites including the small island of Mozia, where the Phonicians settled and traded and were for the time very sophisticated. And, naturally, the abundance of Greek temples and Roman architecture….well worth visiting for any history buff!

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Рік тому

      A friend of mine will be visiting Italy soon, I'll inform him of your view on Sicily, thanks.

    • @lanpartyanimal5215
      @lanpartyanimal5215 Рік тому

      My Grandfather came from Agrigento and my wife and I are planning an extensive trip there within the next year. Might have gone earlier except for all the C-virus disruption.

  • @readable95
    @readable95 Рік тому +66

    A cool book set in the Sicilian-Punic wars is Tyrant, by Manfredi (can’t remember his first name)
    Does a good job of making the history engaging by following the tyrant of Syracuse, his rise to power and wars with Carthage

    • @markos2529
      @markos2529 Рік тому +11

      Valerio Massimo Manfredi

    • @CitrisJones
      @CitrisJones Рік тому

      Thanks for the recommendation. I just ordered a copy

  • @freeloader510
    @freeloader510 Рік тому +136

    I never thought I could view this part of Carthaginian history on youtube, thanks for covering the period! But I think the simultaneous attack on greeks by Persians and Carthaginians is nothing more than greek speculation imo. But the first battle of Himera should be dated to c.480 B.C video date is the second Carthage-Sicilian war which was commanded by the grandchildren of the Hamilcar "Hannibal and Himilco respectivelyibly.

  • @user-ln8eh5nq3q
    @user-ln8eh5nq3q Рік тому +22

    Great video about a topic that's often overlooked by the punic wars ( Greeks and Carthaginians were fought for 3-4 centuries before the Romans started to became to major player ) looking forward for Dionysus timoleon and agathocles

  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  Рік тому +61

    Thanks to all who voted for this next wave of Carthaginian content! You can catch script previews and get art downloads for all episodes on our Patreon: www.patreon.com/InvictaHistory

    • @delamarianmihai5938
      @delamarianmihai5938 Рік тому

      Magelantv has romanian subtitles?

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Рік тому +2

      @@Hello-ig1px it was a pleasure to dive into that history as I was myself completely unfamiliar with Rome’s campaigns of vengeance.

    • @brokenbridge6316
      @brokenbridge6316 Рік тому

      It's always nice to hear about little known historical times. Can't wait for you next video on this interesting time period.

    • @HornyIndianMan
      @HornyIndianMan Рік тому

      💕I love your voice so much that when I imagine my perfect submissive twink bottom boyfriend he sounds just like you 💋💖💕

    • @tedcrilly46
      @tedcrilly46 Рік тому

      I guess some of this is what the old guy in True Romance was talking about to the mafia capo.

  • @ancientsitesgirl
    @ancientsitesgirl Рік тому +36

    A fascinating topic! Especially before the planned trip to Tunisia 🎥(I will also visit Sicily one day) ;) Strength and Honor!🗡

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 Рік тому +4

      Wasn't Iraq your next Trip to film?

    • @ancientsitesgirl
      @ancientsitesgirl Рік тому +10

      @@starcapture3040 My list is long, I will visit Iraq for sure!

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 Рік тому +4

      @@ancientsitesgirl keep it going!

    • @gh4738
      @gh4738 Рік тому +3

      Welcome to Tunisia 🇹🇳

  • @pablodesilvestro831
    @pablodesilvestro831 Рік тому +19

    Awesome history lesson as always guys! Happy to see this was voted in as it is an offer overlooked conflict in the broader Punic wars context, being Sicily the key to control Mediterranean trade

  • @magellantv
    @magellantv Рік тому +2

    Yet another brilliantly informative video 👏

  • @1992zorro
    @1992zorro Рік тому +3

    one word ! AMAZING.
    This is such an amazing period which is most of the time, left behind until the punic wars between Rome vs Carthage.

  • @bonbondurjdr6553
    @bonbondurjdr6553 Рік тому +2

    It's pretty cool how intense the war is for a small island! I can't wait for more!

  • @mlynareknicolle2
    @mlynareknicolle2 Рік тому +3

    As a descendant of Sicily I appreciate all the information on the island I can get 🙏🏻

  • @wilsontheconqueror8101
    @wilsontheconqueror8101 Рік тому

    I love the numbers given in the ancient sources!

  • @Khaos768
    @Khaos768 Рік тому +6

    10:26 That was an ingenious and bold move by Gelon! His men probably loled all the way to the Carthigenean camp!

  • @mahman1565
    @mahman1565 Рік тому

    Historical recaps are back! 🙏 This is what Invicta really excels at.

  • @TopNotch770
    @TopNotch770 Рік тому +1

    Outstanding production quality!

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE Рік тому +2

    Good video ⚔️

  • @robbabcock_
    @robbabcock_ Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video, what a fascinating period of history!⚔

  • @gibraltarsphilosophy7984
    @gibraltarsphilosophy7984 Рік тому +1

    Please continue the others , this just perfect 😭

  • @chibble3591
    @chibble3591 Рік тому +1

    Looking forward to this I love these these largely uncovered conflicts

  • @joshuab2437
    @joshuab2437 Рік тому +1

    Really fascinating information. Thanks for sharing and God bless you!

  • @13thravenpurple94
    @13thravenpurple94 Рік тому

    Great work 🫰🏻🫰🏻🫰🏻 Thank you 💜💜💜

  • @r.l.3325
    @r.l.3325 Рік тому

    Those Pictures are simply gorgeous

  • @albertofazio9448
    @albertofazio9448 Рік тому +11

    To commemorate the victory at the battle of Himera the tyrant of Akragas constructed lots of temples in Akragas on a low hill with a valley below. Those temples are still in good shape to this day and we call that valley the temple valley here in Agrigento, or Akragas 🤣

  • @mohamedelmi9105
    @mohamedelmi9105 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for blessing me with this during my nightshift ✌

  • @HellenicWolf
    @HellenicWolf Рік тому

    Great work guys!

  • @eismann82
    @eismann82 Рік тому

    great video, thank you

  • @kongcrew822
    @kongcrew822 Рік тому +1

    Love your documentary s

  • @joysarker9518
    @joysarker9518 Рік тому

    Thank you soo much for making videos about PUNIC wars. Please make video about 2nd punic wars after cannae

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

  • @earltaylor1893
    @earltaylor1893 Рік тому +1

    Can’t wait for the next one!

  • @djuraish
    @djuraish Рік тому

    Good video!

  • @anon2034
    @anon2034 Рік тому +8

    Great video! I was just researching the tyrants of Syracuse. I would love to see more videos on their lives!

  • @vincentvassallo5727
    @vincentvassallo5727 Рік тому

    Absolutely gorgeous visuals. I would also be really interested in something like a literary beak down of some of the primary or secondary sources used for this topic’s research.

  • @johnemery6944
    @johnemery6944 Рік тому

    I really enjoyed this and hope it is the start of some Carthaginian history and campaign's.

  • @naturalbornpatriot6369
    @naturalbornpatriot6369 Рік тому +2

    Damn y’all, over a million subs. Congratulations

  • @Leafgreen1976
    @Leafgreen1976 Рік тому +4

    I haven't even watched yet but already liked because I know it's awesome! Thanks for all you do.

  • @50shekels
    @50shekels Рік тому +4

    That is one sexy topic

  • @stefaniabosco2182
    @stefaniabosco2182 Рік тому +1

    Good job

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome Рік тому

    EXCELLENT ! YES ! Early Carthaginian history.

  • @nickcitron2369
    @nickcitron2369 Рік тому

    Great work on all ur vids!!!. Thank you, sir!!! Maybe a Mithridates VI of Pontus, The Poison King?!?!?!

  • @istoppedcaring6209
    @istoppedcaring6209 Рік тому

    history really is a treasure throve, you can't really market the sicilian wars directly for a movie or series
    but if you take this and incorporate the events into a fictional story you get something that has the detail of history and the apeal of fantasy

  • @mk9650
    @mk9650 Рік тому +2

    Do one on Agathocles and his campaign that reached as far as the walls of Carthage.

  • @amfa42
    @amfa42 Рік тому +2

    Finally!

  • @CraicDealer
    @CraicDealer Рік тому +2

    Would love to see a video on ancient Irish/ Gael culture. We do have monuments older than the great pyramids of Egypt, after all...

  • @coloneloctavian737
    @coloneloctavian737 Рік тому +2

    Sweet a new vid

  • @parttimegodxx
    @parttimegodxx Рік тому +1

    Nice

  • @lupo1thewolf
    @lupo1thewolf Рік тому

    The intro just made me want to go to sicily for the summer lol

  • @Ennea9
    @Ennea9 Рік тому +1

    In 480 bc the whole known world from Spain to Pakistan. Warriors from Europe, Africa and Asia attacked Greece at the same time. The few stood against the many. This must have been the most heroic page in human history.

  • @hoponpop3330
    @hoponpop3330 Рік тому +2

    There is an in depth history of Rome on UA-cam that I first heard of this somewhat forgotten but important conflict.
    After their Long struggle with the Samnites .Rome extended their control southward and came in contact with the struggle going on in Sicily .
    The result is History.
    Although Spain was another issue.

  • @MBP1918
    @MBP1918 Рік тому

    Interesting

  • @Constantine_Bush
    @Constantine_Bush Рік тому +1

    Greetings to our Sicilian brothers!

  • @ribar4040
    @ribar4040 Рік тому

    More hellenic content, let's go!!

  • @tomwhite7983
    @tomwhite7983 Рік тому +5

    I question the sources used for the numbers in this battle. 150,000 killed in the retreat? And just under half escaped? Implying around 300,000 Carthaginians? What? Whilst it's an interesting tale in terms of the political consequences of the war, the numbers involved seem wildly upscaled.

    • @jimmyandersson9938
      @jimmyandersson9938 Рік тому +4

      Ye, I was suprised the narrator didnt put the number in question, very casually claims Carthage at 480 BC could muster one of the biggest army ever in the history of antiquity :)

    • @rorschach1985ify
      @rorschach1985ify Рік тому +1

      I agree. Kings and Generals did a much better job in comparison by down scaling the numbers and stating that the Carthaginians most likely had only a bit more men than the Greeks.

  • @jadenksky
    @jadenksky Рік тому

    @invicta you should do a series of videos on the celts (Irish, Scottish and vikings) from the roman antiqueties era. I know the celts were a large influence on the creation on Hadrian's wall

  • @GarfieldRex
    @GarfieldRex Рік тому +4

    10:28 ah the story of the Sicilian Horse, more realistic than the Troyan

  • @Strategikos
    @Strategikos Рік тому

    Good video! This topic is really overlooked, especially the fact that it happens at the same time of Xerxes' invasion of Greece. This is also why Greek city-states in Sicily could not send many ships to participate in the battle of Salamis.
    Just one note, the term "Hellenistic" is conventionally used for the period after Alexander the Great, here it would be more appropriate to say "Hellenic" instead.

  • @ziomudru
    @ziomudru Рік тому

    Awesome work! Is Polibius your main source? Anyone else?

  • @akragas4394
    @akragas4394 Рік тому +2

    without the victory of Himera you wouldn't be able to see the Valley of the Temples in Akragas (Agrigento) which were built by Punic captives.

  • @hannibalbarca6308
    @hannibalbarca6308 Рік тому

    Thanks for the recognition bro

  • @nedak4363
    @nedak4363 Рік тому

    Could you cover the Welsh teulu warriors for your next units of history video?

  • @hannibalbarca6308
    @hannibalbarca6308 Рік тому +2

    Bro...we had sooo much bad luck in sicily

  • @juansanchez5001
    @juansanchez5001 Рік тому

    I really appreciate your videos thank you

  • @zetoboogaloo8802
    @zetoboogaloo8802 Рік тому

    Anything from the Conan books or movies would be really cool honestly.

  • @joshuab2437
    @joshuab2437 Рік тому

    I like that Invicta uses BC instead of BCE for dates.

  • @EaNasir1700bc
    @EaNasir1700bc Рік тому

    I didn't know both invasions happened at the same time. I wonder how the relations between Carthage and the Persians was.

  • @randomguy6152
    @randomguy6152 Рік тому +1

    can we see some sub saharan empire conquest vids by any chance?

  • @YusefYandron
    @YusefYandron Рік тому +1

    wow

  • @johnypsilantis2442
    @johnypsilantis2442 Рік тому +4

    It is truly incredible that the Greeks were able to defeat the simultaneous invasion of the two most powerful States in the world at the time...Also the way Gelon took out the Carthiginian command is something that sounds so modern...like a Delta team taking down ISIS leadership

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Рік тому

      Carthage at that time weren't very powerful

    • @nisarbo3781
      @nisarbo3781 Рік тому

      @@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl they were pretty powerful actually.

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl Рік тому

      @@nisarbo3781 not empire status

    • @nisarbo3781
      @nisarbo3781 Рік тому +1

      @@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl what do you mean? in 480 bc they had already established an empire. Between 550 bc to 500 bc under the reign of Mago I. The founder of the powerful & long-lasting magonid dynasty they've expanded towards the entire Maghreb from Morocco to Libya, into Corsica, Sardinia, western sicily & spain by conquering locals as well as taking older phoenician cities there such as gadir. They've had a fleet of 200 triremes available for the invasion of himera in 480 bc & during the 5th century bc they've well explored west africa up to Gabon and traded as far as britain & ireland. They exerted such an authority that they closed the straits of gibraltar after the battle of alalia in 535 bc for all foreigners & thus solely controlled the access to the Atlantic and had the monopoly & all the trade routes there especially tin trade.

  • @geordiejones5618
    @geordiejones5618 Рік тому +1

    Is there a single area that's been more contested than Sicily? Maybe Egypt and/or Israel but 2500 years separate this conflict from WWII. So many wars and different cultures have fought over this island in between.

  • @vangelisskia214
    @vangelisskia214 Рік тому +14

    "GREEK SIGNATURE DNA influence can be seen in Southern Italy and Sicily, where the genetic contribution of Greek chromosomes to the Sicilian gene pool is estimated to be about 37%, and the southern Balkans"
    Di Gaetano, Cornelia; et al. (2009). European Journal of Human Genetics. 17 (1): 91-99.

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki Рік тому +1

      That's the case with all of southern Italy really at least untill second ww in which musollini tried to get rid of all greek influence in the area as part of his nationalist agenda and a lot of Italians with greek roots had to flee the country.

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +6

      The greek genetic input in Southern Italy, although important, is still debated, because ancient southern italians and ancient greeks were already genetically similar.

    • @rimacalid6557
      @rimacalid6557 Рік тому +1

      That's a lot of rape, buy I imagine the Roman rape is even worse

    • @GothPaoki
      @GothPaoki Рік тому +1

      @@esti-od1mz ancient southern Italians weren't similar to ancient Greeks. They were greeks. Almost all of southern Italy was colonized hundreds of years before the romans by greek colonists.
      This is exactly why that greek influence both in genetics and it terms of culture persisted in southern Italy for so long.

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +2

      @@GothPaoki so, let me say that I know that there is a genetic input from Greece: but it is still debated. The sikanians from Sicily and the minoans from Crete were genetically closer, despite being many kilometers distant from each other. There is a genetic overflow, from Cyprus to Southern Italy, due to the ancient european farmers, and that's why ancient italics and ancient greeks were already genetically similar. To be fair, southern italians are pretty much close to the southern greeks, since in the north of Greece there is more balkan admixture. Italy and Greece shared History: a lot of greeks may have italic genes.

  • @losdocereyes4442
    @losdocereyes4442 Рік тому +1

    yeeeeessss!!!

  • @esti-od1mz
    @esti-od1mz Рік тому +32

    The carthaginian dominance in Sicily was much different from the greek colonization. The carthaginians never established colonies in Sicily by force, but they let the locals keep their settlements in exchange of special commercial agreements and participartion in internal affairs: that's why the elymians built so many cities in western Sicily (elymians were pretty powerful: a war against them would have been an error for the Carthaginians). While the ancient greeks came to Sicily with the clear intention of establishing their settlements, hardly letting the indigenous live alongisde them. That why in the IV century the italics tribes of Sicily and Italy started rooting against the greeks, causing the greeks to loose territories or even Cities ( Catania was captured by the Mamertini, Cuma by the campanians, Posidonia by the lucani, the sicels founded Cities in greek territories and so on). To these days, the southern italian regions keep the names of the italic tribes who founded them. In most cases, Carthage endorced these rebellions against the greeks.
    EDIT: I wasn' trying to say that the Carthaginians were saints. They weren't. A lot of factors made them decide that direct control wasn't worth it. Such as the power of the elymians, and the presence of the greek cities. In Sardinia and Spain they held a more direct control.

    • @nebuchadnezzarii5691
      @nebuchadnezzarii5691 Рік тому +5

      The carthaginians slaughtered countless Sicilians. The Greeks settled colonies and made peace and mixed with the natives peacefully. Instead of lying get the facts.

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +11

      @@nebuchadnezzarii5691 to be fair, both sides killed. And the sicilians also killed the carthaginians or the Greeks. Also, both sides were carried by sicilian military men, that is confirmed by Professor Villari. The greeks mixed with the natives only after the natives got REALLY belligerant. Siracusa was being conquered by Ducaetius. They understood that they couldn't treat them as second class citizens. Also, the carthaginian empire guaranteed the liberty of many Greek cities, such as Messina and Lentini. That doesn't mean that Carthage was good. They did this in their interest. In Sardinia and Spain they were more brutal. Get your facts.

    • @nebuchadnezzarii5691
      @nebuchadnezzarii5691 Рік тому +1

      @@esti-od1mz true. I’m sorry for my bias.

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +6

      @@nebuchadnezzarii5691 no problem. I wasn't trying to tell that the Carthaginians were saints. They simply decided that Money were more important than direct control. Have a nice day

    • @nebuchadnezzarii5691
      @nebuchadnezzarii5691 Рік тому +3

      @@esti-od1mz yeah it’s that all peoples committed atrocities no matter who it was at times. Have a nice day as well.

  • @r.ssumedh7626
    @r.ssumedh7626 Рік тому +1

    Please cover Indian Elephant archers in the "units in history" category.

  • @kalemerabasileia10
    @kalemerabasileia10 Рік тому +1

  • @shaolindreams
    @shaolindreams Рік тому

    Poseidon coming in clutch many times

  • @joeywheelerii9136
    @joeywheelerii9136 Рік тому

    I hope you cover some of the famous Greek tyrants

  • @colmritter5353
    @colmritter5353 Рік тому

    When is the Carthaginian Navy video coming out?

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  Рік тому +2

      Taking a bit longer than expected but should be this upcoming week

    • @colmritter5353
      @colmritter5353 Рік тому

      Thank you! Been looking forward to it!

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz Рік тому +2

    Carthaginians and Greeks fight over Sicily for decades.
    Then Rome enters the chat

  • @matthewliu6987
    @matthewliu6987 Рік тому

    8:38

  • @gabrielnguyen5580
    @gabrielnguyen5580 Рік тому

    now im stoke for more - dba campaign here i come

  • @cruzaider5339
    @cruzaider5339 Рік тому

    You've to choose in which has better drip
    Roman officer - Greek officer
    Roman cavalry - Greek citizen cavalry

  • @alejandrosakai1744
    @alejandrosakai1744 Рік тому

    Can you do a video about Alexander the Great in Judaism, please? This is a very interesting topic!

  • @jeremybennett2168
    @jeremybennett2168 Рік тому

    more

  • @divifilius2357
    @divifilius2357 Рік тому

    For the algorithm

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Рік тому +1

    Rome: Why aren’t your roads leading to Rome?

  • @beachboy0505
    @beachboy0505 Рік тому

    Beautiful story
    'These Greeks have come to help us'
    How do you know?
    'I don't, its all GREEK to me
    Wait for next episode

  • @monadsingleton9324
    @monadsingleton9324 Рік тому +9

    *Two hundred years, seven wars (eight, if you count Pyrrhus' invasion), and neither the Greeks nor the Carthaginians ever gained decisive control of Sicily. The Romans conquered the entire island in just fifty years, and held it without contest for seven hundred years.*

    • @ivandicivan4189
      @ivandicivan4189 Рік тому +3

      Yes, two powers are battleing each other while third jumps in afterwards, nothing unseen in history.
      Carthage controlled most of Sicily after the Phyric war thought, except southeastern part around Syracuse:upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ac/First_Punic_War_264_BC_v3.png/1024px-First_Punic_War_264_BC_v3.png

    • @nisarbo3781
      @nisarbo3781 Рік тому

      carthage won in the end due to them controlling most of the island

    • @monadsingleton9324
      @monadsingleton9324 Рік тому

      @@nisarbo3781 Most is not all.

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому +1

      Pyrrhus did but yeah rome was a thing then

    • @wankawanka3053
      @wankawanka3053 Рік тому

      @@nisarbo3781 well not really pyrrhus defeated them and took almost all of the island he only left because of rome not because of carthage plus Syracuse outlived carthage

  • @josephphoenix1376
    @josephphoenix1376 Рік тому

    I see Sicily and think of a contingent of the Sea Peoples hundreds of years before...The Sicels(?)

  • @earlshaner4441
    @earlshaner4441 Рік тому +1

    Patton had it right when he wanted to cut off the krauts retreat into Italy

  • @GeorgeEstregan828
    @GeorgeEstregan828 Рік тому +1

    Now I'm suspicious as to why Carthage did not send reinforcements to Tyre when Alexander besiege them.

    • @hannibalbarca8411
      @hannibalbarca8411 Рік тому +1

      Because carthage was an independent state

    • @GeorgeEstregan828
      @GeorgeEstregan828 Рік тому

      @@hannibalbarca8411 i mean Tyre was the dominant big boy alpha of the Punic world and Carthage was just 2nd or 3rd place. When Tyre fell to Alexander, Carthage become the number 1.

    • @hannibalbarca8411
      @hannibalbarca8411 Рік тому +1

      @@GeorgeEstregan828
      Tyre was phoenician
      Carthage was punic
      There's a difference
      Tyre was only inhabited by phoenicians
      But carthage was a mix by phoenicians ,local north Africans, Europeans,south saharans ...

    • @scarymonster5541
      @scarymonster5541 Рік тому

      @@hannibalbarca8411 the word punic is a latin word for phoenician

    • @scarymonster5541
      @scarymonster5541 Рік тому

      @@hannibalbarca8411 oh wait i think phoenician in latin is Phœnicia

  • @patstocker3658
    @patstocker3658 Рік тому

    ….further….oops the pace has slowed. It needed to

  • @NodDisciple1
    @NodDisciple1 Рік тому +2

    11:35 Treacherous Greek gonna treacherous Greek.

  • @MrLoobu
    @MrLoobu Рік тому

    Hello

  • @caesarjulius6058
    @caesarjulius6058 Рік тому

    How did the Greek forces "infiltrate" the Carthaginian forces so successfully? Wouldn't the Carthaginians have noticed pretty quickly that they spoke a different language etc?

    • @teamnoob52
      @teamnoob52 7 місяців тому +1

      Not really, since they had specifically called on *Ionian Greek* allies for cavalry reinforcements. By the time they were close enough to tell the difference, it would've been too late.

  • @petersclafani4370
    @petersclafani4370 Рік тому +1

    Being sicilian myself and proud of my romsn ancestry

    • @akragas4394
      @akragas4394 Рік тому

      Greeks not Romans.

    • @Lassisvulgaris
      @Lassisvulgaris Рік тому

      @@akragas4394 How do you know? The Romans were there, as well.....

    • @akragas4394
      @akragas4394 Рік тому

      @@Lassisvulgaris because the Hellenes are in Sicily since the Bronze Age until the Byzantine times. The Romans used Sicily only as a colony for exploitation and to dump their mercenaries and criminals.

    • @Lassisvulgaris
      @Lassisvulgaris Рік тому

      @@akragas4394 So @Peter Sclafani can not be of Roman descendance, as he claims...?

    • @petersclafani4370
      @petersclafani4370 Рік тому

      @@Lassisvulgaris why don't you read about the panic wars. If I'm not mistaken it was romans against the greeks and then the carthagians
      Yes the romans conquered sicily. The war lasted about 20 years.
      They also took over Sardinia, corsica. From the 1st panic war.

  • @DaHuuudge
    @DaHuuudge Рік тому

    Ok, your voice during the Magellan TV ad sounded a bit… different. Deeper and more appealing overall. Is it possible you’re working with a vocal coach or something?

  • @svendb7
    @svendb7 Рік тому

    Does the name of the Tyrrhenian Sea have anything to do with the city of Tyre?

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому +3

      No, it is a coincidence. The Tyrrhenian sea derives its name from the etruscans, who dominated in the Area. They called themselves initially Tarasenna>Trasenna>Rasenna>Rasna later

    • @svendb7
      @svendb7 Рік тому

      @@esti-od1mz thanks S T

    • @esti-od1mz
      @esti-od1mz Рік тому

      @@svendb7 you're welcome!