I wonder if the reason they only charge their dots at work is because that's the only way to guarantee that a bunch of spoiled rich kids will actually turn up to their two hours of work a day.
The acting from Ncuti at the end was phenomenal. Not only did it show the absolute heartbreak he felt knowing that he couldn’t change their hatred but also the laughter, he realises his past privilege in that moment and to convey all that emotion without even speaking !!Bravo🥲 heard it was one of the first scenes he shot also
And that was literally his first scene he shot this season. He'd done the regeneration stuff for the special, but that was his first scene he recorded for this season.
I watch Sesskasays and JustSoShaylas reaction to Doctor Who too....I synced up all 3 of you calling Lindy a bitch when she killed Ricky....I have not laughed so much in ages...as well as being proud of your reaction...its wonderful people like you make me think humanity might just be alright in the long run
Honestly some of the best Whotubers out there. Been following them since they began their journey. Sesskasays is REALLY powering through Classic Who. She’ll probably be done within a year.
It wasn't just about racism - Finetime had virtually (pun intended) every kind of tribalism: class, wealth, age ("no stinky old people") and cultural - all dangers of living in a bubble (an echo chamber with only people who think and look like you). Oh, and of course not so subtle warnings about social media, AI and transhumanism. And bonus points for the slug monsters that looked very classic Who. Excellent episode. Thanks for the reaction !
"The moment we cast Ncuti, everyone said to me: oh, my God, what's it going to be like when he goes into the past? Because a black Doctor's going to face such racism. You sit there going, what about now? Why do you think racism's only in the past, when you look at what's happening in the world?" -- Russell T Davies, talking about this episode
There were soooo many overt and subtle signs of racism and prejudice scattered throughout the episode: 1. Lindy was revolted and blocked the Doctor when he first appeared on her feed. 2. Lindy didnt block Ruby. She was more receptive to Ruby when she appeared on her feed. Lindy spoke to Ruby and believed her over the Doctor. 3. When the Doctor appeared for the second time on her feed, Lindy asked him if the monsters "have something to do with you" (she didnt ask Ruby this, just the Doctor) 4. Lindy told her groupcall to listen to the Doctor and that "i know this is wrong and after this is all over he will be so disciplined, i cant wait, and he doesn't look as stupid as he looks" (of course due to the color of his skin) 5. No person of color lived in Finetime 6. Lindy was shocked to learn that Ruby and the Doctor were in the same room together in such close proximity 7. Lindy told the Doctor "Didnt I block you? I knew it. I just thought you looked the same, but you're the same person I blocked. I was so right to hate you." (Implying all black people look the same) 8. When they met, Lindy told Ruby and the Doctor "Gosh, you two, this is strange." (meaning a white and black person working together) 9. And a few more microagressions towards the Doctor before they met in the final scene AND in the final scene where the racism got blatant.
I wonder how that scene would have happened with the 12th Doctor and Bill, with the Finetimers refusing to travel with them because of Bill's ethnicity and sexuality. Given the Doctor would have had no one to punch out like in Thin Ice (as much we all wanted to punch Lindy even the Doctor wouldn't have hit her) imagine how ballistic Twelve would have gone, how Peter Capaldi would have relished getting his teeth into scene like that.
I couldn't help but remember this: "I just want you to think. You know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind." "I will not change my mind." "Then you will die stupid."
I wasn't sure whether you or anyone would get this, but since this is apparently the first "Doctor Who" episode to ever depict urine humour, my joke was that when Lindy was listening to Ricky September the second time, she was doing it so that she could distract herself from the slug, and potentially wetting her pants. And then, like Ginny in "Friday The 13th Part II", her pants are completely dry when we see her get up.
this episode on rewatch from the start RTD put the clues there her revulsion of them being in the same room but she told Ruby her Friends were in the same room when asked to lower the bubble. The non stop aggression to the doctor, the look and instant block on first contact "you all look the same" "he is so going to be disciplined after this" non stop everything was his fault. But the biggest give away a show that always has a diverse cast all white people. This was basically Nazi Barbie. The gut punch of her betrayal of Ricky who rarely used the dot read books and his interactions with the doctor I truly think he was the only decent person. The Dots had been around these people saw how utterly repulsive they were and decided on the worse possible outcome maybe even driven them all mad? The Trailer didn't help this episode they needed to add one reaction shot of the Doctor and Ricky, the ratings were not good and this really deserved higher. When you think that scene at the end was the very first he did as the Doctor he's nailed this role already and Millie her reaction when it dawned on her they are all racists
This is your funniest reaction to date. I love all your reactions but today you made coffee come out of my nose. "Dr Shitz told him to take an extra big dump this morning." You are hilarious and brought some great joy today, keep up the great work and being yourself.
They might not die. If you didn't notice Mr. "Bridge to Cannabis" Brewster Cavendish has managed to keep himself alive by his own means despite having a surname starting with 'c', and he wants to be their leader. He could make an effective tribal despot. So they may survive, but their lives will be harsh and brutal.
THANKS for this, My Katie!!!! Here's my take (and I'm glad to put it here so hardcore Whovians can argue it): This episode breaks two unwritten rules of the show as it pertains to prejudice/racism. First rule, established in Classic and continuing in Nu: collective racism/prejudice must be overcome for our planet to survive. Second rule, established in Nu: individual prejudice is something to be frowned on but will be overcome one day. (TEARING SOUND AS RTD RIPS UP THOSE RULES :) ) WOW....Um, gee.... Who is RTD going after? Anti-immigration movements in Europe? The Right worldwide, including in America? The Doctor Who anti-woke crowd? Everyone? Although the Jordan Peele/"Black Mirror" crowd will not be losing sleep over this, I deeply appreciate RTD's willingness to put up a very big finger at people who don't like his direction. This is very different from his first, more subtle DW take. There will be a lot of criticism of Ncuti crying *again.* But from the point of view of this American, this cry is more out of the tradition of 19th-century Frederick Douglass than a 20th-century British-created Time Lord, recreated in this century to great impact.
I don't understand the point that racism and prejudice must be overcome for a society to survive. This society did not survive. In fact, they died literally because they couldn't overcome their racism and prejudice. If anything, this episode reinforced the unwritten rule you mention, rather than breaking it. I suppose one could point to the "utopia" of this world as an indication that this is a society that "survived." (And then one kind of has to ignore the fact that in this episode, we witnessed their extinction.) However, when we look beyond the ultra-clean aesthetic of their city, it's a society on its last legs. They can only survive by being totally isolated from the outside world, and they've lost all ability to think or care for themselves.
The thing is, even if we succeed in eliminating racism for a while, there's no reason it can't spring up again. Maybe someone curious about Earth history reads a bunch of political speeches and gets influenced; Or maybe they just reinvent it out of nothing. It could be gone, or at least surpressed, long enough for Earth to colonise a few hundred worlds and then re-appear on any one of them, without the species being at overall threat from it.
P.S. A fun Whovian game to play is "Which Doctor would have just walked away at the end of 'Dot and Bubble'?" My votes would be Nine, Eleven and Twelve.
I don't think any Doctor would've just walked away, but I can definitely think of who would've been the angriest. Nine? Yes. Eleven? Yes. Twelve? Oh yes. Classic Doctors? Six would've been even more desperate to save them, and even more furious when they refused.
There's a few clues that people of other ethnicity do exist in their world, and what their status is: The fact that the Doctor's first call is tagged in red as "unsolicited", while Ruby's isn't; The fact that Lindy knows this black dude will be "disciplined" later (no mention of that for Ruby). They exist, somewhere... But they're supposed to stay invisible and out of "people"'s way.
I don't think he is so pure... he did let the others inside the citybubble thing to the slugs, and as much as i got from the reviews, there are still people in there, and Septemberguy did proof, not all may be bad... so the doctor leaves them, because he met a few of the bad people? But since it is communicated everybody is racist, the dot and the unnecessary slugs are the good guys? Why did the dots not just hit everybody in the head before they can even think of escaping or defend themselves... everybody dead in an instant. But it seems the slugs clean up... so, the place looks shiny. To me this whole thing doesn't really make sense to me. On the other hand, that is doctor who as well, but i find this here stupid. And since everybody says it is like a black mirror episode, that is the second episode that "borrows" from other stuff.
I don’t think there was anyone left in the city, I think they’d all been killed and the rest left They made their own choice to go off on their own so if they end up dead, that’s not on the doctor cuz he tried to help them and they refused to listen and they clearly had the same views otherwise some would have listened and gone with him Whatever happens after they all left is their own fault, not the doctors
@@dylanburton4955 But the girl said Ricky went back to save others, if there were no one left, the doctor would have gone after him to let him know, at least what i know from the old incarnations. And was she the last on the list? There were no people with names after hers? Except for September, who she ratted out with name change that the dots didn't know of... I looked at it again, and what i saw, the people outside didn't even react at all to the fact that there are monsters in the city and no help will come, nobody is sad of the loss or even lost people... Sure we can say "they are alien space nazi humans" but still... Seems lame. Doesn't matter, it is just for the racism message...
I wonder if the reason they only charge their dots at work is because that's the only way to guarantee that a bunch of spoiled rich kids will actually turn up to their two hours of work a day.
The acting from Ncuti at the end was phenomenal. Not only did it show the absolute heartbreak he felt knowing that he couldn’t change their hatred but also the laughter, he realises his past privilege in that moment and to convey all that emotion without even speaking !!Bravo🥲 heard it was one of the first scenes he shot also
Great reaction and live for your background
And that was literally his first scene he shot this season. He'd done the regeneration stuff for the special, but that was his first scene he recorded for this season.
"all aboard the titanic" lmao
I watch Sesskasays and JustSoShaylas reaction to Doctor Who too....I synced up all 3 of you calling Lindy a bitch when she killed Ricky....I have not laughed so much in ages...as well as being proud of your reaction...its wonderful people like you make me think humanity might just be alright in the long run
Honestly some of the best Whotubers out there. Been following them since they began their journey. Sesskasays is REALLY powering through Classic Who. She’ll probably be done within a year.
Because she’s already SO RUDE, her dismissiveness of the Doctor kinda goes under the radar, and the boom you realize what’s been happening 😨
I don't know why, but the toilet humour cracked me up. LOL
I for one welcome the arrival of the slug overlords.
Free Slurm!
It disturbed me how long it took me to put the pieces together in this episode!
When you rematch the episode you would notice the micro aggressions that were not noticeable before I realised that after I watched it myself
At what point did you realise this is a white supremacist society.
At what point did you realise that the doctor was the only non white person.
Easily my favourite episode of the season so far. Best episode in YEARS.
So, SO good.
Oh, thank goodness! You're absolutely fantastic. All other reactors can stand down.
i recommend a re-watch because she is just non-stop racist throughout
Oh for sure , upon rewatching the whole episode is filled with micro aggressions that I didn’t pick up on the first time around
It wasn't just about racism - Finetime had virtually (pun intended) every kind of tribalism: class, wealth, age ("no stinky old people") and cultural - all dangers of living in a bubble (an echo chamber with only people who think and look like you). Oh, and of course not so subtle warnings about social media, AI and transhumanism. And bonus points for the slug monsters that looked very classic Who. Excellent episode. Thanks for the reaction !
Yep, my fave so far for the same reason. Great twists. OMFG. Now they will be all dead. Good.
"The moment we cast Ncuti, everyone said to me: oh, my God, what's it going to be like when he goes into the past? Because a black Doctor's going to face such racism. You sit there going, what about now? Why do you think racism's only in the past, when you look at what's happening in the world?" -- Russell T Davies, talking about this episode
Great reaction loved this episode so shocked at the sublime message at the end
That was rough for all us blondes
Brilliant reaction to a wonderful episode!
💜💜➕🌈🟦
I loved this episode. gut punch ending
There were soooo many overt and subtle signs of racism and prejudice scattered throughout the episode:
1. Lindy was revolted and blocked the Doctor when he first appeared on her feed.
2. Lindy didnt block Ruby. She was more receptive to Ruby when she appeared on her feed. Lindy spoke to Ruby and believed her over the Doctor.
3. When the Doctor appeared for the second time on her feed, Lindy asked him if the monsters "have something to do with you" (she didnt ask Ruby this, just the Doctor)
4. Lindy told her groupcall to listen to the Doctor and that "i know this is wrong and after this is all over he will be so disciplined, i cant wait, and he doesn't look as stupid as he looks" (of course due to the color of his skin)
5. No person of color lived in Finetime
6. Lindy was shocked to learn that Ruby and the Doctor were in the same room together in such close proximity
7. Lindy told the Doctor "Didnt I block you? I knew it. I just thought you looked the same, but you're the same person I blocked. I was so right to hate you." (Implying all black people look the same)
8. When they met, Lindy told Ruby and the Doctor "Gosh, you two, this is strange." (meaning a white and black person working together)
9. And a few more microagressions towards the Doctor before they met in the final scene AND in the final scene where the racism got blatant.
I wonder how that scene would have happened with the 12th Doctor and Bill, with the Finetimers refusing to travel with them because of Bill's ethnicity and sexuality. Given the Doctor would have had no one to punch out like in Thin Ice (as much we all wanted to punch Lindy even the Doctor wouldn't have hit her) imagine how ballistic Twelve would have gone, how Peter Capaldi would have relished getting his teeth into scene like that.
I couldn't help but remember this:
"I just want you to think. You know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind."
"I will not change my mind."
"Then you will die stupid."
Your videos make me laugh so hard😂
What a reaction😂
I wasn't sure whether you or anyone would get this, but since this is apparently the first "Doctor Who" episode to ever depict urine humour, my joke was that when Lindy was listening to Ricky September the second time, she was doing it so that she could distract herself from the slug, and potentially wetting her pants. And then, like Ginny in "Friday The 13th Part II", her pants are completely dry when we see her get up.
this episode on rewatch from the start RTD put the clues there
her revulsion of them being in the same room but she told Ruby her Friends were in the same room when asked to lower the bubble. The non stop aggression to the doctor, the look and instant block on first contact "you all look the same"
"he is so going to be disciplined after this" non stop everything was his fault. But the biggest give away a show that always has a diverse cast all white people. This was basically Nazi Barbie. The gut punch of her betrayal of Ricky who rarely used the dot
read books and his interactions with the doctor I truly think he was the only decent person.
The Dots had been around these people saw how utterly repulsive they were and decided on the worse possible outcome
maybe even driven them all mad? The Trailer didn't help this episode they needed to add one reaction shot of the Doctor and Ricky, the ratings were not good and this really deserved higher. When you think that scene at the end was the very first he did as the Doctor he's nailed this role already and Millie her reaction when it dawned on her they are all racists
This is your funniest reaction to date. I love all your reactions but today you made coffee come out of my nose. "Dr Shitz told him to take an extra big dump this morning." You are hilarious and brought some great joy today, keep up the great work and being yourself.
They might not die. If you didn't notice Mr. "Bridge to Cannabis" Brewster Cavendish has managed to keep himself alive by his own means despite having a surname starting with 'c', and he wants to be their leader. He could make an effective tribal despot.
So they may survive, but their lives will be harsh and brutal.
This was better than last weeks episode
THANKS for this, My Katie!!!!
Here's my take (and I'm glad to put it here so hardcore Whovians can argue it):
This episode breaks two unwritten rules of the show as it pertains to prejudice/racism. First rule, established in Classic and continuing in Nu: collective racism/prejudice must be overcome for our planet to survive. Second rule, established in Nu: individual prejudice is something to be frowned on but will be overcome one day.
(TEARING SOUND AS RTD RIPS UP THOSE RULES :) )
WOW....Um, gee....
Who is RTD going after? Anti-immigration movements in Europe? The Right worldwide, including in America? The Doctor Who anti-woke crowd? Everyone? Although the Jordan Peele/"Black Mirror" crowd will not be losing sleep over this, I deeply appreciate RTD's willingness to put up a very big finger at people who don't like his direction. This is very different from his first, more subtle DW take.
There will be a lot of criticism of Ncuti crying *again.* But from the point of view of this American, this cry is more out of the tradition of 19th-century Frederick Douglass than a 20th-century British-created Time Lord, recreated in this century to great impact.
I don’t get the crying Criticism. Eleven cried a couple of times. I’m sure Ten did as well once.
@@4884nat I don't have a problem with it but he's gonna be known for it the way Five is known for his wearing a vegetable.:)
Well, their planet doesn't survive -- or at least not as a home for them. And not the Home World either.
I don't understand the point that racism and prejudice must be overcome for a society to survive. This society did not survive. In fact, they died literally because they couldn't overcome their racism and prejudice. If anything, this episode reinforced the unwritten rule you mention, rather than breaking it.
I suppose one could point to the "utopia" of this world as an indication that this is a society that "survived." (And then one kind of has to ignore the fact that in this episode, we witnessed their extinction.) However, when we look beyond the ultra-clean aesthetic of their city, it's a society on its last legs. They can only survive by being totally isolated from the outside world, and they've lost all ability to think or care for themselves.
The thing is, even if we succeed in eliminating racism for a while, there's no reason it can't spring up again. Maybe someone curious about Earth history reads a bunch of political speeches and gets influenced; Or maybe they just reinvent it out of nothing. It could be gone, or at least surpressed, long enough for Earth to colonise a few hundred worlds and then re-appear on any one of them, without the species being at overall threat from it.
10:21 -- oh no... Lindy gets worse.
Ncuti was incredible in this q
P.S. A fun Whovian game to play is "Which Doctor would have just walked away at the end of 'Dot and Bubble'?" My votes would be Nine, Eleven and Twelve.
I don't think any Doctor would've just walked away, but I can definitely think of who would've been the angriest.
Nine? Yes. Eleven? Yes. Twelve? Oh yes.
Classic Doctors? Six would've been even more desperate to save them, and even more furious when they refused.
The fact is none of the previous doctors who ever had to face a group of people refusing to accept help purely because of the colour of their skin.
But the group wouldn't have refused their help -- or the reason would be different, at least.
And 7!
Most likely to walk away: 1 and 4. 7 would start a monologue about sugar usage.
No one realize till the end that all the people in that place were white. I bet even the people back home were all white.
There's a few clues that people of other ethnicity do exist in their world, and what their status is: The fact that the Doctor's first call is tagged in red as "unsolicited", while Ruby's isn't; The fact that Lindy knows this black dude will be "disciplined" later (no mention of that for Ruby). They exist, somewhere... But they're supposed to stay invisible and out of "people"'s way.
Yeah I do t like this point every one in my town is white it’s means nothing
I don't think he is so pure... he did let the others inside the citybubble thing to the slugs, and as much as i got from the reviews, there are still people in there, and Septemberguy did proof, not all may be bad... so the doctor leaves them, because he met a few of the bad people? But since it is communicated everybody is racist, the dot and the unnecessary slugs are the good guys?
Why did the dots not just hit everybody in the head before they can even think of escaping or defend themselves... everybody dead in an instant. But it seems the slugs clean up... so, the place looks shiny.
To me this whole thing doesn't really make sense to me. On the other hand, that is doctor who as well, but i find this here stupid. And since everybody says it is like a black mirror episode, that is the second episode that "borrows" from other stuff.
I don’t think there was anyone left in the city, I think they’d all been killed and the rest left
They made their own choice to go off on their own so if they end up dead, that’s not on the doctor cuz he tried to help them and they refused to listen and they clearly had the same views otherwise some would have listened and gone with him
Whatever happens after they all left is their own fault, not the doctors
@@dylanburton4955 But the girl said Ricky went back to save others, if there were no one left, the doctor would have gone after him to let him know, at least what i know from the old incarnations.
And was she the last on the list? There were no people with names after hers? Except for September, who she ratted out with name change that the dots didn't know of...
I looked at it again, and what i saw, the people outside didn't even react at all to the fact that there are monsters in the city and no help will come, nobody is sad of the loss or even lost people... Sure we can say "they are alien space nazi humans" but still...
Seems lame.
Doesn't matter, it is just for the racism message...