I'm glad Van moved on and as far as Ryan it was time for him to separate friendships and business it was way to many bosses. As a business owner I had to learn that lesson as well. It's definitely a learning experience.
@@436nickypoo all I can remember is him shouting and throwing a tantrum, he seem content....its like whomever fully leaves that show grow up and figure themselves out
Van was the only one who made a smart decision and started working with cease. Van came to everyone after Ryan dropped them and suggested they start their own shop, folks was playing so Van did what he had to do 💪🏾
Also when Van was in charge, he didn’t really make them better, it was just more of the because he brought his friends to the shop to drink and party all day while Ryan started a whole other shop which clearly had a structure and a path to follow.
They did choose sides and they were all messy now I will say van looks better while phor, don, and Ryan all look a mess so I guess staying away from drama is good for the skin and soul
Van was toxic. It seemed like the show got to his head. He wanted to turn 9mag into Caesar's black Inc. Ryan wanted a business behind the show. Van just wanted the ratchet behind the show. I was glad to see Ryan distance himself.
Right why does that matter when u moving different the ceo move on why not cover it all had move on to now alll need a story line so let hella at van cause all story line sucks even ryan !!! Ok but I’am here for it van brought the show charmaine brought the show these other did not real talk !
@@prettytamirashow right! Like he covered it cause folks weren't fucking with him. And now they bringing him back cause they do need a storyline. A better one!
It’s true. Sometimes you’ve got to disconnect to reconnect. Glad everyone got their time to grow. I do hope they pick the right time and place if they really want to do it though.
@vukani my thing is van was the one helping Ryan out at the shop but my thing is he stopped messing with Ryan and the other Black ink Crew but my thing is Ryan has started the whole problem because every time he started getting mad because the whole Katrina situation he blaming on them for his own actions it wasn't they fall that was his fault and deletion the situation but my thing is I really don't like Ryan because Ryan was being petty you know what I'm saying he always blaming everybody but himself you know what I'm saying I cannot stand it but you can't be grandma doing that people in their face and trying to put the false blame on them because you having problems in your relationship with Rachel you know what I'm saying it don't make no sense to me you know that was Ryan's thought for doing that he did the same thing with Kitty he going to downgraded her and being disrespectful to all women and community it don't make no sense he can't put the blame on Van because van had moved on and do better for himself and his daughter that's when he here to do he ain't got time to be talking to everybody you know what I'm saying that's the reason why nobody don't want to rock with Ryan was a troublemaker but Charmaine left the show too
@@tiffanywalker4437 once again I was saying that Ryan had his own insecurities with other people and he always talking down on his friends like it's okay to say things do you remember that episode when Katrina told Rachel that her Ryan slap together and he got mad at the producers and them then he trying to blame on Charmaine and Don and phor about the situation but my thing is you probably don't understand what I'm saying but I was saying was Ryan cause a lot of problems in the whole season everybody had his back and then nobody don't want to rock with him you know what I'm saying but the same time van had lived his life he do better for himself and his daughter he not worried about Ryan cuz he not cool with Ryan all like that but the same time how the where you going to get mad at them because you did your dirt you know what I'm saying they don't even make no sense that's all I was saying
Van is a BOSS! He couldn’t be treated like anything lower than what he knew he is at heart it was easy for them to follow the leader, Charmaine, Van, & Kat wasn’t going for that. It’s nothing wrong with that
If u go to his ig him in his daughter always together he didn’t leave her behind in made a better life choices for him in his daughter that different!!
WOMEN TOO!! There’s just as many women that do the same, the narratives just a man is false. Women complain about not being able to follow dreams all day because of children and they’re allowed to do so if they have leave a child behind, why can’t men?! They’re just as important they have dreams as well!! We fail to talk about how a lot of mothers choose a man over their kids, both sides are equal when it comes to every situation not just men Most men deal with bitterness from a women, soon as it gets rocky here comes trouble and the no’s(no they can’t go, no you can’t see them) so walking away sometimes does seem like the best situation!!
@@trixtrix3791 but the thing about van his daughter congrats high school she was older now so now he can move on from 9mag in make something for his self when u feel your back against the walls your relationship didn’t work out your friends turn there back on u than it time to make a move !!
@@trixtrix3791 no one ever said women don't do it K. Michelle, Tommie, Spice, are all bums that let other ppl raise their kids. But I was referring to the bum dude that is in this video. Trust I know plenty of women that have I'm related to a few. I'm only saying he was talking about it's hard when it really isn't he left because he wanted to the daughter did not stop him and never will.
Business is business and if Van covered up his nine mag tattoo he has every right to do so. Money and ego breaks up friendships. Next time get a tattoo of a business when it’s owned by you. The boss doesn’t care if you helped build his business or not. This is a case of if you can’t beat them join them or leave altogether. 💯
Van is the only person I really respect. None of them are perfect but van was really stabbed in the back several times by being loyal to people that's wasn't loyal to him.
They may have helped Ryan with 9MAG, however like Rachel said if anything happened to that shop it was gonna fall on Ryan … which it ultimately did … the situation with Kat was messed up , Ryan was wrong however; his name is on that shop, if he says he doesn’t want anybody there then as the boss, the owner of the LLC they should’ve respected it … and even after they chose sides with Ryan and Kat .. he still gave Van the old 9MAG & what happened ???
In the beginning of I like the van the van act like he was the boss most of the time he let his ego gets his big head so I'm glad he moved on and I'm glad that Don Ford and Ryan that moved on that's the way it goes life goes on Don't Look Back so van and Ryan I hope they work things out and forgive and forget him keep moving that's the way it is
Van did NOT help build 9Mag because he was too busy creating division among the group because he wanted to run things and LOOK like the boss! And if he didn't need to have a talk with Ryan, then he shouldn't! Don't sit, cry about spoiled milk Van spilled!! If he didn't feel like he was the main cause of the dividing and separating of the group, then there is no point of the meet up!
Phor: Let's Van might have felt like me and Don chose sides" Y'all did pick a side.😳👀😂 It seemed like everyone was against Van for the longest. Not saying Van or anyone is innocent. They all played a part in it. I've always liked Van and thought he was like an old soul and the big bro to all of them. I'm glad he's back he was always so funny and the voice of reason. A true genuine friendship is so rare now a days 😭🤷🏾♀️. *Sidenote Van looks great! You can tell he's in a good place. Sometimes you have to remove yourself from a situation and start fresh.*
Ryan on the high horse 🐎 Cease is on. The universe will humble them, no conversation with a old friend will help Ryan ego. Sometimes people have hit rock bottom to remember where they came from and who was they day ones. Homie wasting his time. 🙄
I don’t think hes on a high horse i just think he’s over the past him and van have had multiple 1 on 1s in last season sometimes it’s just time to close a chapter with someone and move on 🤷🏽♀️
Lol if Ryan didn't get humble after that mess when he fvcked his best friend's wife while the same best friend was fighting cancer, I honestly don't think he ever will. There's some people who just don't have the capacity to be ashamed, humbled, taught lessons or whatever. And Ryan is one of them. I can appreciate that he's helped some people and that he's well spoken and good looking and all that other stuff, but I also recognize that Ryan is a very toxic person who gets away with ALOT because of superficial things like his looks and stuff.
Van really did help build 9 mag when Ryan split everyone up brought in more ppl I just really didn’t care for the show the Lilly’s the one assistant all them idk they aren’t old 9mah
I see it both ways, they leave their kids to follow the money. But it’s quick money. I’m sure they can make just as much or more where they are, where their family is if they tried. It may not come in as quick but I guess it varies by person.
It was more so the way he moved he was very selfish in the way he moved and after the rumor started he should’ve just clear the air and everything will be OK but him and Ryan’s beef was after that title when he got sued for half $1 million I will not be his friend either
This right here is Real Strange why are they meeting ? And if Van don't have a problem then why didn't he reach out to Ryan on his own? Why don't they feel some kind of way about Van not help with the Legal problems with there . There something not right about this ,Van has some Deep feeling and ONLY GOD CAN ONLY GOD CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM. THIS IS DEEP
All I seen Van' do is start unnecessary drama against the ones who love him. Unfortunately, some people are just ungrateful. He seems like a narcissist 😏 I would tell him bye-bye 👋🏾👋🏾 He moving different probably cause he delirious.Smh Be VERY careful with that one, you guys. 😏
all these damn people and all these damn shows all these have some kind of excuse as to why they have to leave their kids Behind. .... a damn shame is what it is
Van looks so good and I’m glad they’re all taking accountability for their actions
I'm glad Van moved on and as far as Ryan it was time for him to separate friendships and business it was way to many bosses. As a business owner I had to learn that lesson as well. It's definitely a learning experience.
Van seems like he's in a different space
@@ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised Yes he really does seem different like more relaxed, I know when you are at peace with things it's an amazing feeling.
@@436nickypoo all I can remember is him shouting and throwing a tantrum, he seem content....its like whomever fully leaves that show grow up and figure themselves out
@@ParentalDiscretionIsAdvised Exactly 💯
@@436nickypoo if he's with Jen, I hope she played a part in that and if he's not, it's doing him good!
They all played a role and picked sides. They all need to take accountability for their actions and keep it pushing.
Exactly!! Van played HIMSELF out of position with his deep seated jealousy!!
This! 😭🙌🏾
@Tiffany Walker yes girl !
That part people need to hold themselves accountable for they're actions!.
BM would never take accountability because it says I’m wrong and or I fucked up 🤦🏾♀️
Don shouldn't be talking at all... He played so much part and somehow absolved himself from the situation without taking accountability....
It's Don that is what he does
Van was the only one who made a smart decision and started working with cease. Van came to everyone after Ryan dropped them and suggested they start their own shop, folks was playing so Van did what he had to do 💪🏾
Please! Van tried to go back too but he screwed up somebody tattoo twice & got Ryan sued! Van a big ole liability!
@@khoney6600 that was before Ryan dropped everyone. Cease ain't get sued over Van's work so that's all that matters 🙂
Growth and maturity looks *real* good on Van & Don. I'm proud of them.
I’m so glad Van moved on. He looks great.
That’s what happens when you get tf outta Chicago
He really does ❤
let's just be honest, they chose Ryan over Van because Ryan could take them places that Van couldn't.
Also when Van was in charge, he didn’t really make them better, it was just more of the because he brought his friends to the shop to drink and party all day while Ryan started a whole other shop which clearly had a structure and a path to follow.
Sounds like good decision making to me.
I don't understand why they acting like they can't see or understand why van felt played
I am proud of Van... nothing is wrong with growth. People out grow each other. Van had to do what was best for him.
Ryan & Van have had multiple 1 on 1s in past seasons i feel like sometimes you just gotta move on from someone
In the actual episode, Van said Don gotten so big he looks like a gargoyle character 😅
🤣🤣🤣
😂
Y’all did side with Ryan, he has the money and the brand. 😹😹😹😹
Well that makes nothing but sense! Who gonna follow the broke liability that's not putting no money in their pockets.
@@khoney6600 exactly
Um and the common sense and morals. Van was wrong which is why he regrets everything
They did choose sides and they were all messy now I will say van looks better while phor, don, and Ryan all look a mess so I guess staying away from drama is good for the skin and soul
phor get out your feeling's Van a grown man that moved on
Van was toxic. It seemed like the show got to his head. He wanted to turn 9mag into Caesar's black Inc. Ryan wanted a business behind the show. Van just wanted the ratchet behind the show. I was glad to see Ryan distance himself.
I agree
Van looks amazing 😻
🤞🏾🖤🖤
Literally 😍
You dusty like him I bet
@@alternativefacts6779 says you with no profile pic. Goofy
His demeanor, even his voice is different in a way. He's seem more CALM
He can cover it up if he wants to.. it's his body tf..
Right why does that matter when u moving different the ceo move on why not cover it all had move on to now alll need a story line so let hella at van cause all story line sucks even ryan !!! Ok but I’am here for it van brought the show charmaine brought the show these other did not real talk !
@@prettytamirashow right! Like he covered it cause folks weren't fucking with him. And now they bringing him back cause they do need a storyline. A better one!
It’s true. Sometimes you’ve got to disconnect to reconnect. Glad everyone got their time to grow. I do hope they pick the right time and place if they really want to do it though.
Van looks good.
This conversation is tired. He covered up the tattoo because he’s not apart of 9mag anymore. It’s that simple
Van was annoying and he acted like he was the boss. Ryan gave him the one shop and he still acted foolishly.
@vukani my thing is van was the one helping Ryan out at the shop but my thing is he stopped messing with Ryan and the other Black ink Crew but my thing is Ryan has started the whole problem because every time he started getting mad because the whole Katrina situation he blaming on them for his own actions it wasn't they fall that was his fault and deletion the situation but my thing is I really don't like Ryan because Ryan was being petty you know what I'm saying he always blaming everybody but himself you know what I'm saying I cannot stand it but you can't be grandma doing that people in their face and trying to put the false blame on them because you having problems in your relationship with Rachel you know what I'm saying it don't make no sense to me you know that was Ryan's thought for doing that he did the same thing with Kitty he going to downgraded her and being disrespectful to all women and community it don't make no sense he can't put the blame on Van because van had moved on and do better for himself and his daughter that's when he here to do he ain't got time to be talking to everybody you know what I'm saying that's the reason why nobody don't want to rock with Ryan was a troublemaker but Charmaine left the show too
@@dashawnalong6144 wrote all of that and couldn't understand nothing you said 😕
@@tiffanywalker4437 once again I was saying that Ryan had his own insecurities with other people and he always talking down on his friends like it's okay to say things do you remember that episode when Katrina told Rachel that her Ryan slap together and he got mad at the producers and them then he trying to blame on Charmaine and Don and phor about the situation but my thing is you probably don't understand what I'm saying but I was saying was Ryan cause a lot of problems in the whole season everybody had his back and then nobody don't want to rock with him you know what I'm saying but the same time van had lived his life he do better for himself and his daughter he not worried about Ryan cuz he not cool with Ryan all like that but the same time how the where you going to get mad at them because you did your dirt you know what I'm saying they don't even make no sense that's all I was saying
@@tiffanywalker4437 girl I was like so what is your thing Which one ? Which one? Geesh hahahaha I got tired😫
@@JD-oe3yk I just gave up on reading all of it after the third “my thing is” 😂😂😂😂
Van is a BOSS! He couldn’t be treated like anything lower than what he knew he is at heart it was easy for them to follow the leader, Charmaine, Van, & Kat wasn’t going for that. It’s nothing wrong with that
He tried to boss somebody else stuff tho. You gotta get your own & be the boss of that! That was Van problem!
No he’s not he failed when he became the boss literally
Van was the problem so frankly dont feel bad for him. He seemed like he’s grown tho so good for him
Men do not care about leaving their kids behind especially when it comes to money.
If u go to his ig him in his daughter always together he didn’t leave her behind in made a better life choices for him in his daughter that different!!
Really? This a new one 😭😭
WOMEN TOO!! There’s just as many women that do the same, the narratives just a man is false. Women complain about not being able to follow dreams all day because of children and they’re allowed to do so if they have leave a child behind, why can’t men?! They’re just as important they have dreams as well!! We fail to talk about how a lot of mothers choose a man over their kids, both sides are equal when it comes to every situation not just men Most men deal with bitterness from a women, soon as it gets rocky here comes trouble and the no’s(no they can’t go, no you can’t see them) so walking away sometimes does seem like the best situation!!
@@trixtrix3791 but the thing about van his daughter congrats high school she was older now so now he can move on from 9mag in make something for his self when u feel your back against the walls your relationship didn’t work out your friends turn there back on u than it time to make a move !!
@@trixtrix3791 no one ever said women don't do it K. Michelle, Tommie, Spice, are all bums that let other ppl raise their kids. But I was referring to the bum dude that is in this video. Trust I know plenty of women that have I'm related to a few. I'm only saying he was talking about it's hard when it really isn't he left because he wanted to the daughter did not stop him and never will.
Van looks real handsome now days. 😋
Lies
Let’s be real Van been acting shady towards Ryan ever since the Kat situation
Business is business and if Van covered up his nine mag tattoo he has every right to do so. Money and ego breaks up friendships. Next time get a tattoo of a business when it’s owned by you. The boss doesn’t care if you helped build his business or not. This is a case of if you can’t beat them join them or leave altogether. 💯
It's weird seeing Ceaser at the end of these videos now😂😂😂😂
Van is the only person I really respect. None of them are perfect but van was really stabbed in the back several times by being loyal to people that's wasn't loyal to him.
Lies! He constantly stabbed Ryan in the back and tried to bully him & ruin his shop on top of that!
Why care about what is on another person's body? I can understand if you are in a relationship or a parent, but a friend.... It makes no sense to me.
I like Don away from everbody,definitely different #Growth
Van in Texas doing his thing n finding his peace
Van left good cause he got Ryan sued not one time but 2 times.
Friendships aren’t meant to be broken, especially ova some dumb stuff🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Van looking Good as hell
My boy van look so good I love this for him 🥰🥰🥰
If van comes back I’ll start watching again
Don and phor gone always be loyal to Ryan van be set tripping
Another great episode of The Black ink Crew
Van is looking well he lost weight
Van looks excellent wow❤
🗣Van Is Annoying And A Whole Hater He ALWAYS GAVE THAT VIBE SO IM GLAD HE AINT AROUND ANY LONGER💅🏽😂🤦🏽♀️
Them childish ass braids in Phor’s hair. LAWDDDD!
Van crossed the line to where the owner ain't trust him
They may have helped Ryan with 9MAG, however like Rachel said if anything happened to that shop it was gonna fall on Ryan … which it ultimately did … the situation with Kat was messed up , Ryan was wrong however; his name is on that shop, if he says he doesn’t want anybody there then as the boss, the owner of the LLC they should’ve respected it … and even after they chose sides with Ryan and Kat .. he still gave Van the old 9MAG & what happened ???
Ryan don't deserve friends or a woman...... He is definitely big head
In the beginning of I like the van the van act like he was the boss most of the time he let his ego gets his big head so I'm glad he moved on and I'm glad that Don Ford and Ryan that moved on that's the way it goes life goes on Don't Look Back so van and Ryan I hope they work things out and forgive and forget him keep moving that's the way it is
Why phor sound outta breathe 😂
Nope Van move on, you're too aggressive and angry.
Van did NOT help build 9Mag because he was too busy creating division among the group because he wanted to run things and LOOK like the boss! And if he didn't need to have a talk with Ryan, then he shouldn't! Don't sit, cry about spoiled milk Van spilled!! If he didn't feel like he was the main cause of the dividing and separating of the group, then there is no point of the meet up!
Van, what??? It wasn’t to, but it was??? You crazy man…you got a lot of pride
Van that's my boy!! He one of the original solid ones that's gon tell it like it is..
Phor: Let's Van might have felt like me and Don chose sides" Y'all did pick a side.😳👀😂 It seemed like everyone was against Van for the longest. Not saying Van or anyone is innocent. They all played a part in it. I've always liked Van and thought he was like an old soul and the big bro to all of them. I'm glad he's back he was always so funny and the voice of reason. A true genuine friendship is so rare now a days 😭🤷🏾♀️. *Sidenote Van looks great! You can tell he's in a good place. Sometimes you have to remove yourself from a situation and start fresh.*
Ryan on the high horse 🐎 Cease is on. The universe will humble them, no conversation with a old friend will help Ryan ego. Sometimes people have hit rock bottom to remember where they came from and who was they day ones. Homie wasting his time. 🙄
I don’t think hes on a high horse i just think he’s over the past him and van have had multiple 1 on 1s in last season sometimes it’s just time to close a chapter with someone and move on 🤷🏽♀️
No high horse. Ryan just simply started thinking in the mind of an employer instead of a friend.
Lol if Ryan didn't get humble after that mess when he fvcked his best friend's wife while the same best friend was fighting cancer, I honestly don't think he ever will. There's some people who just don't have the capacity to be ashamed, humbled, taught lessons or whatever. And Ryan is one of them.
I can appreciate that he's helped some people and that he's well spoken and good looking and all that other stuff, but I also recognize that Ryan is a very toxic person who gets away with ALOT because of superficial things like his looks and stuff.
@@aneshaelizabeth exactly
Why Phor talking so fast and constantly moving? Boy calm down
Phonr and Don are honestly a pair of nobody's 😂
where can you watch these seasons i’ve only watched til season 6
Van really did help build 9 mag when Ryan split everyone up brought in more ppl I just really didn’t care for the show the Lilly’s the one assistant all them idk they aren’t old 9mah
When is it, coming back on though?
They still have that Ceasar outro🤣🤣
yall are ryan workers tf
Glad there talking
I see it both ways, they leave their kids to follow the money. But it’s quick money. I’m sure they can make just as much or more where they are, where their family is if they tried. It may not come in as quick but I guess it varies by person.
It was time for them to part ways!
TOO MANY CHIEFS NOT ENOUGH INDIANS. POINT BLANK
He only back cause New York got cancelled
I think ryan wanted to be the king of that show you know.
I much as van issa trouble maker bring that ninja back he will turn up the show lol he's crazy
Dont like Van. Dont miss Van. And believe me you, he hasn't changed. Still the same ol jealous man. Who threw stones and hid his hands
I hope van and Ryan talk
Van looks just like my ex and it bothers tf out of me😂
Is the word of the year narrative lol
He covered it up because he's no longer there. Van has moved on. Ryan moved on.
don & ashley still together ?
Why Don looking like a Disney Samoan.🙄
It was more so the way he moved he was very selfish in the way he moved and after the rumor started he should’ve just clear the air and everything will be OK but him and Ryan’s beef was after that title when he got sued for half $1 million I will not be his friend either
This right here is Real Strange why are they meeting ? And if Van don't have a problem then why didn't he reach out to Ryan on his own? Why don't they feel some kind of way about Van not help with the Legal problems with there . There something not right about this ,Van has some Deep feeling and ONLY GOD CAN ONLY GOD CAN FIX THIS PROBLEM. THIS IS DEEP
Phor icy den a bih
We miss van
600000 to start with is the problem
No i not feeling what Van is saying at all is he serious right nah
I'm glad Ryan moved on from Van I'm glad Charmaine gone from the show they both ain't got no loyalty so deuces
Ryan been grimey
Don is fine asf, but those dreads are not a good look at all
Not tf at all, momma taught me everything ain’t for everybody
All I seen Van' do is start unnecessary drama against the ones who love him. Unfortunately, some people are just ungrateful.
He seems like a narcissist 😏
I would tell him bye-bye 👋🏾👋🏾 He moving different probably cause he delirious.Smh
Be VERY careful with that one, you guys. 😏
Wait Ryan shot up Van shop what if his daughter was there smh
I still don’t like Van. He took the females side I remember that mess. I think he personally was in love with Kat
They all were, they each had a piece of her.
@@divineselfentity well Van was the only one acting weird about it and acting like a b….
@@lavettejohnson2287 I agree he bitched ALOT 😆
Kat wasn’t wrong.
all these damn people and all these damn shows all these have some kind of excuse as to why they have to leave their kids Behind. .... a damn shame is what it is
Don looks even uglier with his hair like that. What did Charmaine see in him. She ain’t got no type 😂😂😂😂
I just see three toxic males, talking to talk with little action and little growth.
Why does Don look so ashy and dry?
He’s a pretender 😪
Who van?
How? He ain't pretending
How? 😴
The show is boring AF now … time to wrap it up.
Good time to move out of Chi town because 2023 the Purge law goes into affect.