@verifyuparamole8068 we have been ran badly for 11 years but we have been managed even worse for the last 2. One does not excuse the other. Ten Hag isn't fixing anything, he is just breaking it more.
7:42 _"On a long enough timeline if you look to the Xg ... it'll sort out the table"_ I think so many people overlooked this in ETH's first season. We scraped wins while playing really poorly and (somehow!) finished 3rd.
That proves precisely that it doesn't sort out the table. And the table is finite, and the season is not very long. You could effectively pull a stat polling 5 seasons, two of which there were zero wins, and both vastly overestimate and underestimate what those seasons look like. There is no prize for topping the "5 year table". It's a red herring of a stat. No better, or more accurate than looking at the league, and putting teams in places just by the eye test. We have proven that on both sides of the spectrum over the past three seasons.
@@galazore technically true. I just use it to gauge what to expect next season. I.e. As an indicator: League positions < Points < GD STE saw the 3rd place finish in 22/23 and talked about "pushing on". I saw out 15 GD and thought "I hope we finish top 4 next year". If only...
It's really simple. Just keep playing the same squad/ selection rotation players and let them keep improving. Like 5-6 games in, actual good football is being played. Let them keep getting in rhythm and it'll come. There's no magical fix other than them getting more games in
Pretty sure that is the definition of insanity ... Your big idea is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and hope for a different result? The real fix is to bring in a manager who knows how to motivate a football team!
You have seen actual good football? For what level of team would you say that "good football" we have been playing represents? A mid table team, a top 4 team, a title challenging team? I'm genuinely intrigued because cleary what you & I consider good football, is 2 different things
@@XboneMalone Fortunately that doesn't matter as Ineos have people in place to pick the new manager. We won't need to rely on Big Lebowski for it. EtH will be sacked by the end of this season. He is just not going to be able to compete with Pep and Arteta no matter how much money is thrown at him.
As fans, we cant keep swinging from “we’re back” after a couple of wins, to “manager out” after a mediocre performance. Same applies to the players; one good or bad game is not enough to form any kind of analysis, especially at the beginning of the season when those players are still adjusting to a new team/country/language. Give it time. Back the team and the manager. Leave the criticism/praise until we know exactly what the outcome is.
No. Why should we? It's not like Ten Hag comes on here and becomes anxious about a youtube comment section😂. I think he's a fraud and we will have a season of sporadic results but we will all find out by the end of the season if he isn't sacked by Christmas. I hope he succeeds, I just don't think he will. What's wrong with having an opinion?
@@cameronjones8641 well, your first line was “no, why should we” in response to mine about backing the team. You need someone to explain why as a fan you should back the manager/team? That tells me everything I need to know about your level of support. If we’re not showing significant improvement in results by Christmas he’s probably gone. Until then, he’s in the job. It’s weird how many fans seem to be waiting for him to be fired rather than hoping he proves them wrong
@@Jericho642 My point is backing the manager or the team has absolutely no outcome to the results, does it? So what purpose does it serve? I don't say, every fan should want him sacked or every fan should think he's the wrong person. I have my opinion and you have yours and it makes no difference to Ten Hag or the level of our support for the club. I believe he is the wrong man for MY CLUB, you think he's the right man. What you have ignored is that if he proves me or any other critical fan wrong , we will be over the moon and happy to admit our error. Your argument is illogical.
@@cameronjones8641 lol of course it does. It feeds in to the media who love to constantly create headlines and speculation about the managers job. He’s treated way differently than every other manager. The constant speculation is bad for everyone at the club
We should’ve got Harry Kane in when we had the chance. Best striker in the world he should’ve been playing for the biggest club in England and then keep hojlund as a backup. It’s extremely difficult to find someone as elite as Kane and that puts up the numbers as him. Major blunder by the board by not bringing him in. Huge missed opportunity. Can you imagine where we would be right now if he joined us instead of Bayern.
We can’t expect everything all at once,. I’m really happy with the performances. Since Ten Hagg arrived we’ve been unable to keep the ball, last few games we have held possession well. I’m sure the goals will come in time👍
Winning is the ultimate measuring stick for United. I feel we're trying to show confidence but with too many flicks, tricks and a back heels. A much more simple pass would be the better option. In saying that, the simple things are the hardest things to do in football. I thought we were poor yesterday but a toe poke simple goal and a few dirty 1-0 wins and this team "could" get going. But it isn't easy.
That was Rashfords best game in as long as I can remember. Work rate was mostly spot on. Attitude was spot on. He keeps this up and I'll be well fucking happy.
I'd be very careful not to talk down the performances this season. You're 100% right that UTD are not converting chances - but I'd argue that the team should be creating more. We are yet to see an "Opportunity to create goalscoring chances" statistic but it needs to come because it would be very useful. Last night UTD squandered "chances to make chances", though, it might be said, nothing like the amount Man City squandered v. AFC. UTD seem to me to have a signif higher "CTMC" number this season. Now: this is an excellent sign. And, obviously, is the fact that the team is creating more chances this season. In my judgment, the goals will increase, all other positives being equal. To simplify, the goals will come. More might have been made of the defensive side of the UTD game this season. Last night they conceded just 7 shots, Do you know what last season's average per game is? I don't. But it was much higher than 7, no? I've said many times that football fans are an effin' dim lot, where even folk with A levels and degrees fail to think straight (rationally) on a daily basis when it comes to the game. So please highlight the stratospheric boneheaded of any of them saying TH should be sacked. I'd councel SP to self-ban all chat about "TH under pressure" unless he goes 6 w/o a win or something.
That goal was ridiculously soft, Rashford had a chance to chop the full back down and just brushes off him, too soft, then Eriksen the same too soft, Martinez smartly pulls out as he's already on a yellow so right decision, leading to Maguire falling on his ass attempting some nonsense he's absolute pants (also still takes too many touches), then Ugarte steps in and makes a perfectly timed tackle. After that just a brainfart from Eriksen, but the ball should never have travelled that far in first place. Team needs to learn how to be more cynical and take yellow cards, pull of a shirt, bear hug, clip an ankle. Way too passive.
Every other top team has this in them but our players seem to either rush in make the wrong decision or get completely skinned. It’s frustrating seeing it from other teams and not ours.
@@Trini.Bombero he surely has to instill in the players to break up play when losing possession high up the pitch and we’re not defensively set. I get defending tennhaag but don’t do it blindly. I hope he turns things around but these are the little things that might help us.
I think we are lacking a bit of ruthlessness and a bit of decisiveness. It seems like our players don’t have any conviction in their final pass/shot. Our build up play is fantastic but our final balls are lacking or like several times in the game our wingers put in great balls into the box but there was no one there to attack the ball. Rashford had a cross like that, Ahmad had one where two people in the box missed it, Garnacho I think had another chance like that.
Good video, I have been thinking this for a few years Not sure how without changing majority of front players we can improve The weird thing is on paper our front players should get 70 plus goals no problem
A manager can change a lot and can have instant and massive improvement, we can’t give ETH a lot of excuses because of patience. Example, Unai with Villa, Barca with Flick, Leverkusen with Alonso…. Everyone is feeling if we sack ETH means we can’t go forward, we will find someone better as we have a good board now
Lose against Spurs, Porto and Villa, and the man’s gone. No coming back from that I’m afraid. After the Southampton and Barnsley win, I was under no illusions. If we couldn’t kick on and beat Palace and FC Twente, then we’re back to square one. And here we are.
Tactics should create more safety in our performances to create clear cut chances, ten haag is trying to create a team that only competes to that level it's always up to the players on the pitch they have to focus on understanding the basics in the game, the players are the only ones forcing it like they're something already so far this season 'unfortunately' that is only gonna scrape out wins, like u said we have to start scoring for that to work.
5 things we learnt about Ten Hag the last 3 years 1. Ten hag is a footballing magician not Harry Potter but Harry Houdini. He is brilliant at escaping the sack 2. Ten Hag is the best communicator. Yeah, the journo's love him 3. Ten Hag is the oldest bald manager in the Premier League, older than Pep.Yep 4. Ten Hag is the second most succesful manager in the Premier League becuase Ten Hag says so 5. Ten Hag deserves Man Utd job for at least 7 more years becuase his name says so. Go Ten Hag go.
What I hated yesterday that once Twente equalised, I have seen the more urgency and fast pace playing which fully surprised me like Where the bloody hell was this energy before? So it meant that players were taking it easy.
It will click for ten hag and the boys. I do believe it. Multiple bad performances with good results sprinkled in, and you’ll get found out eventually (like last season)but multiple performances where structure and balance is being seen more and more and where you can start to picture what’s trying to be done, eventually results will come. Unfortunately for Ten hag, it is a results business but I do believe this season will be a good one. I hope..
@kuldipthapa24 I've been calling Ten Fraud the master of mediocrity for a while. I firmly believe his tactics will reap nothing but sporadic victories and continued inconsistency. Like I say, I do hope I'm wrong though.
I think they are planning moving Licha to LB, he is much more suited to the midfield positions that Dalot is currently taking up when United are in position.
It's not as bad in retrospect as it felt on the night. Some good play in areas but still lacking threat somehow. It's part psychological I'm certain. I think the feeling when they scored was, "oh shit", and it's a familiar feeling, it should be, when we have a difference in class and experience against a team, "you fucks,right" but it's just not there all over the pitch. Some of them are retreating a bit. We should have won that game though, their keeper had a great game.
ETH has to start making in game adjustments. It’s been a trend when the other team adjust to whatever we’re doing he does nothing. He changes the personnel but nothing else. No adjustments to the opposition adjustment
We lack intensity, cant celebrate creativity over intensity, we need both. United players can be so passive and thats because there is usually no consequence for playing poorly
We are too slow in the final third. The opposition are back in position and unlike city who have the players , strategy and movement to play through them and shoot -we don’t. Look at how many quality final passes the person shooting at goal e.g. Harland, receives compared to our centre forward.
Progression isn’t linear - too many people expect us to be winning every game and performing flawlessly along the way. The underlying performances have been just decent. Should’ve had Fulham buried by half-time, two defensive lapses cost us at Brighton, Liverpool, okay wasn’t great but also wasn’t THAT bad, should’ve had four past Palace at the half. The results don’t align with the performances overall.
The speed of Utd’s play and the predictable straight line movement has been a problem for several years. Maguire slowing down the play is also a problem. He never receives a ball and quickly moves it on. He has to receive it, take a touch, then get his head up to see what he is going to do with it. He never has a picture in his head before he receives it. Not good enough. Hojlund needs games, even if it’s reserve games just to get some momentum. I love Licha’s blood and thunder approach, but he is pushing too far out of defence and leaving holes. For all Fred’s short comings, we miss his energy in the midfield. I don’t expect to win the league, but we need to see tangible progress, more points on the board. Improved XG will count for nothing come the end of the season if Utd can’t put the ball in the onion bag.
Ugarte was the one who made the final tackle before the ball fell to erikson to create the twente goal. That goal was unlucky for erikson man... i feel like maguire going to ground caused the biggest problem in defence for when conceding that goal.
Man we are lacking a system to score goals!!!! And it is not just this season, last season was the same!!! I genuinely believe that ETH is learning the job of coaching at the highest level of football on the job!! So, if board like to let that happen then we all have to sit tight and suffer till he learns and Ruud can only improve individuals skills not the system.
I think we saw some problems that we already knew about last night. 1 Maguire is error prone 2 Eriksen isn't good against intense press 3 Bruno is not in his best run of form, and i'm confused as to why 4 Onana keeps on making mistakes in Europe
UTD will not make progress with ‘limited’ players. Bruno is limited in retaining possession. Ugarte is limited in passing and receiving the ball from the keeper/defense. 2/3 or your midfield can’t be so limited.
The reason why Manchester United has not been performing as expected is because the team seems to have an unusual obsession with certain players, namely Rashford and Bruno. The truth is, these two are average players, but for some reason, they have retained their starting positions even when playing below Manchester United's expected level for an entire season.
I am not a pro coach, neither am I a pro footballer. But I don’t have to be to see that the quality of our cut backs need to prove drastically. Amad and Rashford are getting into good positions but the output on the cut backs are not great, and the positioning of Zirkees and Bruno can be a lot better
I still believe ten hag is the right man I would just like to see consistency in the starting 11 we need a starting 11 that plays every week I kmow we've had injuries but last night why not start de ligt and mainoo keep out strongest 11 going
It’s not all about the manager but if results don’t improve then the question has to be asked. Unfortunately the pressure is on for the manager, the media and sections of the fan base don’t like him.
Right on the money again Ste. This is a clear-eyed unemotional review of what we can learn from last night’s game. Unlike other reviewers, you’re able to reflect on both what’s not working but also what’s is in a balanced way. It’s time for level heads in this world!
This is Erik third season and we still consistently awful and horrible to watch.Scrap goal vs Fulham,last minute concede at Brighton,beaten easily to LIV at home and our players struggle to get a goal at Palace.We are middle club status right now.Erik in thin ice...
Stephen 'the metric manager' Howson 😂😂😂 I see Ste and a lot of his fans on this channel saying " we've improved, we're playing good football" For what level of team would you say, the "good football" we've been playing represents? A mid table team, a top 4 team, a title challenging team? I'm genuinely intrigued because cleary what you guys & I consider good football, are 2 different things. F#£k your metrics
@@AJ-ry8qdThat’s his point you 🤡! You can’t write off last season as not ETHs fault (which you do or you’d want him sacked) but then use it to benchmark progress this season. But screw the metrics, this team is still failing the eye test and ETH has no excuses. Were not scoring because he’s shattered the confidence of our attacking players because he wants us to progress with fast and high risk passing. His so reliant on us creating exceptional moments we are always going to be inconsistent under him.
Ten Hag is my manager 🫡 and my club is Manchester United ❤ To rebuild a club take time. More time then 5 matches! This is actually Ten Hags first season with proper back up. He will save us if we let him!
These "sack the manager" merchants carry this delusion with them that they are setting standards. Destabilize the club and feel like you've done something of value. Absolute Rhinos when it comes to being far sighted. Who needs rivals when you have these nincompoops trying to "set the standards". EtH will only be sacked when he loses the dressing room. And he's nowhere near that. He will be given time, and he will give it everything. Don't think I can expect the same of Nagelsmann or Inzaghi or Zidane. The names are big, but they might get exposed. United job ain't for everyone. EtH is the man for the job. Humble, not rattled, doesn't hide, doesn't let his players hide. Rashford against Twente was playing smart. And he will get better. So will the rest of the team. 2025 summer will change the narrative altogether, when Maguire, Lindelof, Evans and Eriksen all leave on a free and we bring in better suited replacements and a LB. People forget we are still a work in progress.
@@MrBean118 We played aweful quality teams. It was obviously another false dawn. We will probably beat a Spurs side struggling themselves and all the tub thumping will be back, right before we show how aweful we are again.
Rashford played well, but he WILL NOT SCORE many so long as Dalot is playing at LB and inverting. 😕 Dalot inverting makes the centre crowded, forces Rashford to hold the width on the left, and means defenders can more easily double-up on him when he does get the ball. 😩 Amad is our creative winger. Zirkzee is a supporting striker. Rashford SHOULD be the main goal threat, but that is impossible when the lineup and tactical setup force him to hug the touchline. 🤷 If Ten Hag wants goals, he needs to ensure that Rashford operates in the left-half space, not on the wide-left.
We could go with an experienced poacher in and around the 6 yard box to relieve the pressure off the young lads whilst they continue their development. Any 30-32 year olds available on a free or a loan who could do us a job?
When Klopp came to Liverpool they didnt do that well in the table, even worse than with Rogers. But the improvements and the development of a style was very obvious to see. It instilled confidence and motivation in players and fans. Under Ten Hag that was only obvious in the 1st season. After that it seemed to be a roller coaster. What does seem to be happening is a lack of a winning mentality and desire in a lot of critical players. Maybe Ten Hag lacks charisma and man management skills. Even when talking to the media you can see charisma and people handling skills from SAF, Klopp, Ancelloti, Mourinho, Pep. But in ETH it seems more like defensiveness, whingeing, excusing and a lack of ability to banter or just instil confidence or positivity. Maybe that is why he had problems with Sancho (given what a brat he is), Rashford, CR7. Right now the only high gear motivation appears to be from Garnacho, Amad, Mazraoui (still new though), Martinez (Though more aggresive than motivated). ON the flip side Solksjaer kept players happy but was not a good tactician. So hope fully Ste's observations here above are correct
Ii can't help but thinking. Is NOBODY staying after practice and finetuning their shooting skills anymore? Like Beck's and his sort....? Like.. why can't anybody put it in the net?
I don't understand your rating of Maguire when your 1st point here talked about how slow we were, lacking intensity and that's something Maguire is really shit at. He takes an absolute age on the ball.
Two things I learned: we need to find the positives when things don't go our way and stop being all doom and gloom. We also need to stick by the team and ETH and stop looking for scape goats when we don't get the win. For all our struggles in front of goal, we are bedding in new players and Rasmus is back and getting to full fitness. We go again😂
I'm so fucking grateful you speak sense. Sick to death of all the bellends either creating agendas to make money or just stupid that's who talk out their arse. Thank you so fucking much. It's great to know there are still sane Utd fans. You're at the top. You mention Sam at UP but he is terrible. Thank fuck for you. Spot. The. Fuck. On!
Look I get it.. changing managers suck .. we wish tenhag could be the one.. the second coming of fergie.. but sometimes what we wish for doesn’t necessarily come true and united fans we need to be real… saying that another manager with different ideas won’t make our front line any better is just not right.. tenhag is the most protected manager of all time to the point where logic is thrown out the window!
I disagree. Hes achieved big stuff. If he only improved his subs and dropped bruno when hes not in it wed be optimized imo. Then again, subs are complex, but favoritism doesnt require IQ to stop with. I dont know if hes capable of getting better at this but if he does we will definitely compete for the title. No other manager has taken ajax to cl semis and almost finals in a long long time and he definitely has to have some special football knowledge because i dont think his man management is good at all.
Saying ETH is the most protected manager of all time is just a windup. Have you read anything (traditional media, social media, anything on the internet) in the last 2 years???
@@limbikanimsamba9456 why we need the elite level, he clearly can't coach attacking patterns, or improve our attackers strengths to their optimal level, so you just have to get the individual quality, that can ball out, like when we had Greenwood, Cavani, Pogba, Rashford, Bruno, winning games, despite the managers coaching/tactical floors, because with players like Cavani, Greenwood, they were so high level, they could get the job done, without high level tactical framework, or attacking patterns of play
@@BillyJacobs94 that's cap, it was 1 game where Mbappe's disappeared and Rashford won us the tie, and was general banter, he's also not got high level goal output to be a 30 season in, season out, he's a 15- 20, that's not enough, we need more goals
@jean-paulwalters8855 nah after he had that purple patch every united fan was calling him world class and blowing smoke up his arse. That's the reason he got the 350k a week. Absolute joke of a club and fanbase
@v0n1b0 They will not beat Porto and Villa away. Not a bloody chance. I can't stand him. It just blows my kind that people keep talking about giving him time.
Im not jumping on the managers back and ten hag out but managers get sacked on performances like that the names manchester united we shouldn't be giving the ball away misplacing passes making individual mistakes conceding goals things have too and must improve we should have learned from that mistake giving the ball away last season im fearing going into sunday im not confident by any means you dont know what your gonna get i expect the same old same old we dominate games waste chances and get punished we dont and can't kill games and finish games off we arent clinical and also too sloppy
i know that you know that i know that you know and we all know that im not buying manscaped.
we literally make the game hard for our selfs by not taking every chance seriously Yesterday
And giving up poor goals. Their 2 chances came from silly errors on the ball
we have been runned badly for like 12 years.. and ee have a new board now ofcourse we need to have patience
Its really hard to be patient this season after what we dealt with last season.
@@mefninja I also understand that but
arsenal also went through what we went through
@@mefninja but that's a you problem!! You have to adjust your expectation and look at it logically.
@chikku807 well yea. I feel like alot of us fought for him to get year 3. Year 3 comes and almost every decision hes making appears to be crap
@verifyuparamole8068 we have been ran badly for 11 years but we have been managed even worse for the last 2. One does not excuse the other. Ten Hag isn't fixing anything, he is just breaking it more.
7:42 _"On a long enough timeline if you look to the Xg ... it'll sort out the table"_
I think so many people overlooked this in ETH's first season. We scraped wins while playing really poorly and (somehow!) finished 3rd.
LIV, CHL, TOT, VILLA were all bad that year.
That proves precisely that it doesn't sort out the table. And the table is finite, and the season is not very long. You could effectively pull a stat polling 5 seasons, two of which there were zero wins, and both vastly overestimate and underestimate what those seasons look like. There is no prize for topping the "5 year table". It's a red herring of a stat. No better, or more accurate than looking at the league, and putting teams in places just by the eye test. We have proven that on both sides of the spectrum over the past three seasons.
@@galazore technically true. I just use it to gauge what to expect next season.
I.e. As an indicator:
League positions < Points < GD
STE saw the 3rd place finish in 22/23 and talked about "pushing on".
I saw out 15 GD and thought "I hope we finish top 4 next year". If only...
It's really simple. Just keep playing the same squad/ selection rotation players and let them keep improving. Like 5-6 games in, actual good football is being played. Let them keep getting in rhythm and it'll come. There's no magical fix other than them getting more games in
Pretty sure that is the definition of insanity ... Your big idea is to keep doing the same thing over and over again and hope for a different result?
The real fix is to bring in a manager who knows how to motivate a football team!
Agree mate
@@thebiglebrowski3695 And your personal recommendation for the new manager is who?
You have seen actual good football? For what level of team would you say that "good football" we have been playing represents? A mid table team, a top 4 team, a title challenging team? I'm genuinely intrigued because cleary what you & I consider good football, is 2 different things
@@XboneMalone Fortunately that doesn't matter as Ineos have people in place to pick the new manager. We won't need to rely on Big Lebowski for it. EtH will be sacked by the end of this season. He is just not going to be able to compete with Pep and Arteta no matter how much money is thrown at him.
As fans, we cant keep swinging from “we’re back” after a couple of wins, to “manager out” after a mediocre performance. Same applies to the players; one good or bad game is not enough to form any kind of analysis, especially at the beginning of the season when those players are still adjusting to a new team/country/language. Give it time. Back the team and the manager. Leave the criticism/praise until we know exactly what the outcome is.
No. Why should we? It's not like Ten Hag comes on here and becomes anxious about a youtube comment section😂. I think he's a fraud and we will have a season of sporadic results but we will all find out by the end of the season if he isn't sacked by Christmas. I hope he succeeds, I just don't think he will. What's wrong with having an opinion?
@@cameronjones8641 well, your first line was “no, why should we” in response to mine about backing the team. You need someone to explain why as a fan you should back the manager/team? That tells me everything I need to know about your level of support.
If we’re not showing significant improvement in results by Christmas he’s probably gone. Until then, he’s in the job. It’s weird how many fans seem to be waiting for him to be fired rather than hoping he proves them wrong
@@Jericho642 My point is backing the manager or the team has absolutely no outcome to the results, does it? So what purpose does it serve? I don't say, every fan should want him sacked or every fan should think he's the wrong person. I have my opinion and you have yours and it makes no difference to Ten Hag or the level of our support for the club. I believe he is the wrong man for MY CLUB, you think he's the right man. What you have ignored is that if he proves me or any other critical fan wrong , we will be over the moon and happy to admit our error. Your argument is illogical.
ETH out all the way. Week in, week out.
@@cameronjones8641 lol of course it does. It feeds in to the media who love to constantly create headlines and speculation about the managers job. He’s treated way differently than every other manager. The constant speculation is bad for everyone at the club
Very generous review perfomance was unacceptable
On the European front that one win in nine was at home against Copenhagen.
We should’ve got Harry Kane in when we had the chance. Best striker in the world he should’ve been playing for the biggest club in England and then keep hojlund as a backup. It’s extremely difficult to find someone as elite as Kane and that puts up the numbers as him. Major blunder by the board by not bringing him in. Huge missed opportunity. Can you imagine where we would be right now if he joined us instead of Bayern.
We can’t expect everything all at once,. I’m really happy with the performances. Since Ten Hagg arrived we’ve been unable to keep the ball, last few games we have held possession well. I’m sure the goals will come in time👍
😂😂😂😂😂
Man united players should not really need tactics to beat FC twente lol and that reflects on how we conceded that Goal
Winning is the ultimate measuring stick for United. I feel we're trying to show confidence but with too many flicks, tricks and a back heels. A much more simple pass would be the better option. In saying that, the simple things are the hardest things to do in football. I thought we were poor yesterday but a toe poke simple goal and a few dirty 1-0 wins and this team "could" get going. But it isn't easy.
That was Rashfords best game in as long as I can remember. Work rate was mostly spot on. Attitude was spot on. He keeps this up and I'll be well fucking happy.
I'd be very careful not to talk down the performances this season. You're 100% right that UTD are not converting chances - but I'd argue that the team should be creating more. We are yet to see an "Opportunity to create goalscoring chances" statistic but it needs to come because it would be very useful. Last night UTD squandered "chances to make chances", though, it might be said, nothing like the amount Man City squandered v. AFC. UTD seem to me to have a signif higher "CTMC" number this season. Now: this is an excellent sign. And, obviously, is the fact that the team is creating more chances this season. In my judgment, the goals will increase, all other positives being equal. To simplify, the goals will come.
More might have been made of the defensive side of the UTD game this season. Last night they conceded just 7 shots, Do you know what last season's average per game is? I don't. But it was much higher than 7, no?
I've said many times that football fans are an effin' dim lot, where even folk with A levels and degrees fail to think straight (rationally) on a daily basis when it comes to the game. So please highlight the stratospheric boneheaded of any of them saying TH should be sacked. I'd councel SP to self-ban all chat about "TH under pressure" unless he goes 6 w/o a win or something.
That goal was ridiculously soft, Rashford had a chance to chop the full back down and just brushes off him, too soft, then Eriksen the same too soft, Martinez smartly pulls out as he's already on a yellow so right decision, leading to Maguire falling on his ass attempting some nonsense he's absolute pants (also still takes too many touches), then Ugarte steps in and makes a perfectly timed tackle. After that just a brainfart from Eriksen, but the ball should never have travelled that far in first place. Team needs to learn how to be more cynical and take yellow cards, pull of a shirt, bear hug, clip an ankle. Way too passive.
Every other top team has this in them but our players seem to either rush in make the wrong decision or get completely skinned. It’s frustrating seeing it from other teams and not ours.
Ah yes, you clearly know what took place but apparently Ten Hag is to blame.
Southampton were murdering United players amd did get some cards. If we put the same tackles as Southampton did to us, we would get 6 red cards.
Doesn't make sense for Rashford to make a hard tackle that high up the pitch... The rest though...
@@Trini.Bombero he surely has to instill in the players to break up play when losing possession high up the pitch and we’re not defensively set. I get defending tennhaag but don’t do it blindly. I hope he turns things around but these are the little things that might help us.
I think we are lacking a bit of ruthlessness and a bit of decisiveness. It seems like our players don’t have any conviction in their final pass/shot. Our build up play is fantastic but our final balls are lacking or like several times in the game our wingers put in great balls into the box but there was no one there to attack the ball. Rashford had a cross like that, Ahmad had one where two people in the box missed it, Garnacho I think had another chance like that.
Good video, I have been thinking this for a few years
Not sure how without changing majority of front players we can improve
The weird thing is on paper our front players should get 70 plus goals no problem
A manager can change a lot and can have instant and massive improvement, we can’t give ETH a lot of excuses because of patience. Example, Unai with Villa, Barca with Flick, Leverkusen with Alonso….
Everyone is feeling if we sack ETH means we can’t go forward, we will find someone better as we have a good board now
Lose against Spurs, Porto and Villa, and the man’s gone. No coming back from that I’m afraid. After the Southampton and Barnsley win, I was under no illusions. If we couldn’t kick on and beat Palace and FC Twente, then we’re back to square one. And here we are.
I wish they lose
Tactics should create more safety in our performances to create clear cut chances, ten haag is trying to create a team that only competes to that level it's always up to the players on the pitch they have to focus on understanding the basics in the game, the players are the only ones forcing it like they're something already so far this season 'unfortunately' that is only gonna scrape out wins, like u said we have to start scoring for that to work.
5 things we learnt about Ten Hag the last 3 years
1. Ten hag is a footballing magician not Harry Potter but Harry Houdini. He is brilliant at escaping the sack
2. Ten Hag is the best communicator. Yeah, the journo's love him
3. Ten Hag is the oldest bald manager in the Premier League, older than Pep.Yep
4. Ten Hag is the second most succesful manager in the Premier League becuase Ten Hag says so
5. Ten Hag deserves Man Utd job for at least 7 more years becuase his name says so. Go Ten Hag go.
What I hated yesterday that once Twente equalised, I have seen the more urgency and fast pace playing which fully surprised me like Where the bloody hell was this energy before?
So it meant that players were taking it easy.
Maguire is slow and ponderous and it spreads throughout the team
It will click for ten hag and the boys. I do believe it. Multiple bad performances with good results sprinkled in, and you’ll get found out eventually (like last season)but multiple performances where structure and balance is being seen more and more and where you can start to picture what’s trying to be done, eventually results will come. Unfortunately for Ten hag, it is a results business but I do believe this season will be a good one. I hope..
He needs to improve his subs tho, I think that's one of ten hags biggest issues
I think he's a total fraud but I still hope he turns us into a decent team again.
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He literally won us 2 trophies you idiot how tf can u call him a fraud?
Sadly united fans still hoping for him to get it right is nothing but getting used to mediocrity.
@kuldipthapa24 I've been calling Ten Fraud the master of mediocrity for a while. I firmly believe his tactics will reap nothing but sporadic victories and continued inconsistency. Like I say, I do hope I'm wrong though.
I think they are planning moving Licha to LB, he is much more suited to the midfield positions that Dalot is currently taking up when United are in position.
I know what we learned absolutely fuck all as usual
We needed two new wingers in the summer.
Talking to some twente fans going home today and they were very happy but wondered where uniteds goals were. Sound familiar?
Marseille has a great goal scorer!
Things gotta change and quick
It's not as bad in retrospect as it felt on the night. Some good play in areas but still lacking threat somehow. It's part psychological I'm certain. I think the feeling when they scored was, "oh shit", and it's a familiar feeling, it should be, when we have a difference in class and experience against a team, "you fucks,right" but it's just not there all over the pitch. Some of them are retreating a bit. We should have won that game though, their keeper had a great game.
I just can’t wait to see us all click into gear. The new signings gel. Squad are all up to speed and clicking…
We’re almost there!!!!
Home to Spurs .. It will be a Goal Fest !!
ETH has to start making in game adjustments. It’s been a trend when the other team adjust to whatever we’re doing he does nothing. He changes the personnel but nothing else. No adjustments to the opposition adjustment
We lack intensity, cant celebrate creativity over intensity, we need both. United players can be so passive and thats because there is usually no consequence for playing poorly
You nailed ten hags problem in the first minute of this video the team don’t play with enough intensity
We are too slow in the final third. The opposition are back in position and unlike city who have the players , strategy and movement to play through them and shoot -we don’t. Look at how many quality final passes the person shooting at goal e.g. Harland, receives compared to our centre forward.
Progression isn’t linear - too many people expect us to be winning every game and performing flawlessly along the way. The underlying performances have been just decent. Should’ve had Fulham buried by half-time, two defensive lapses cost us at Brighton, Liverpool, okay wasn’t great but also wasn’t THAT bad, should’ve had four past Palace at the half. The results don’t align with the performances overall.
1 in 9 is a damning stat
The speed of Utd’s play and the predictable straight line movement has been a problem for several years. Maguire slowing down the play is also a problem. He never receives a ball and quickly moves it on. He has to receive it, take a touch, then get his head up to see what he is going to do with it. He never has a picture in his head before he receives it. Not good enough. Hojlund needs games, even if it’s reserve games just to get some momentum. I love Licha’s blood and thunder approach, but he is pushing too far out of defence and leaving holes. For all Fred’s short comings, we miss his energy in the midfield. I don’t expect to win the league, but we need to see tangible progress, more points on the board. Improved XG will count for nothing come the end of the season if Utd can’t put the ball in the onion bag.
Ugarte was the one who made the final tackle before the ball fell to erikson to create the twente goal. That goal was unlucky for erikson man... i feel like maguire going to ground caused the biggest problem in defence for when conceding that goal.
Man we are lacking a system to score goals!!!! And it is not just this season, last season was the same!!! I genuinely believe that ETH is learning the job of coaching at the highest level of football on the job!! So, if board like to let that happen then we all have to sit tight and suffer till he learns and Ruud can only improve individuals skills not the system.
At some point I think we have to see Zirkzee & Hojlund together. It feels like Zirkzee is just missing that other player in the box with him.
I think we saw some problems that we already knew about last night.
1 Maguire is error prone
2 Eriksen isn't good against intense press
3 Bruno is not in his best run of form, and i'm confused as to why
4 Onana keeps on making mistakes in Europe
Please show us then 7:45
Ten Hag is an egg
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UTD will not make progress with ‘limited’ players. Bruno is limited in retaining possession. Ugarte is limited in passing and receiving the ball from the keeper/defense. 2/3 or your midfield can’t be so limited.
lets not forget that 1In 9 was a last minute pen
Only channel I bother tuning into. Measured, honest, not reactionary and understands football. Thanks Ste. 👊
The reason why Manchester United has not been performing as expected is because the team seems to have an unusual obsession with certain players, namely Rashford and Bruno. The truth is, these two are average players, but for some reason, they have retained their starting positions even when playing below Manchester United's expected level for an entire season.
I am not a pro coach, neither am I a pro footballer. But I don’t have to be to see that the quality of our cut backs need to prove drastically. Amad and Rashford are getting into good positions but the output on the cut backs are not great, and the positioning of Zirkees and Bruno can be a lot better
I know zirkzee hasnt been here long and needs to settle, but I thought we would have gone for an out and out striker.
It's a brand new rebuilds going to take time unfortunately football fans nowadays don't really know how football works
Not sure why Bruno can’t be deployed deep in midfield? ETH needs to rejig his squad asap.
Because he’s going to lose the ball there we saw it last season bro.. u forget too quickly
I still believe ten hag is the right man I would just like to see consistency in the starting 11 we need a starting 11 that plays every week I kmow we've had injuries but last night why not start de ligt and mainoo keep out strongest 11 going
Its a very difficult watch. I was there last night and...for the most part it was boring. Started really well. But then dropped off. It was so slow.
It’s not all about the manager but if results don’t improve then the question has to be asked. Unfortunately the pressure is on for the manager, the media and sections of the fan base don’t like him.
It’s the system we play and the way we use Bruno in it, solve that and we will look a lot better, but let’s face it ten Haag will not change
No but rain till tomorrow afternoon xx
Fair and measured video.
Right on the money again Ste. This is a clear-eyed unemotional review of what we can learn from last night’s game. Unlike other reviewers, you’re able to reflect on both what’s not working but also what’s is in a balanced way. It’s time for level heads in this world!
This is Erik third season and we still consistently awful and horrible to watch.Scrap goal vs Fulham,last minute concede at Brighton,beaten easily to LIV at home and our players struggle to get a goal at Palace.We are middle club status right now.Erik in thin ice...
Stephen 'the metric manager' Howson 😂😂😂 I see Ste and a lot of his fans on this channel saying " we've improved, we're playing good football" For what level of team would you say, the "good football" we've been playing represents? A mid table team, a top 4 team, a title challenging team? I'm genuinely intrigued because cleary what you guys & I consider good football, are 2 different things. F#£k your metrics
It's a coping mechanism. They can't accept how shite the team really is
Great comment.
We are literally playing better than last season you 🤡
@@AJ-ry8qdThat’s his point you 🤡! You can’t write off last season as not ETHs fault (which you do or you’d want him sacked) but then use it to benchmark progress this season. But screw the metrics, this team is still failing the eye test and ETH has no excuses. Were not scoring because he’s shattered the confidence of our attacking players because he wants us to progress with fast and high risk passing. His so reliant on us creating exceptional moments we are always going to be inconsistent under him.
@@AJ-ry8qd what, because the metrics say so? Ok, unambitious uncultured fool
Ten Hag is my manager 🫡 and my club is Manchester United ❤ To rebuild a club take time. More time then 5 matches! This is actually Ten Hags first season with proper back up. He will save us if we let him!
😂 please keep him
These "sack the manager" merchants carry this delusion with them that they are setting standards. Destabilize the club and feel like you've done something of value. Absolute Rhinos when it comes to being far sighted. Who needs rivals when you have these nincompoops trying to "set the standards". EtH will only be sacked when he loses the dressing room. And he's nowhere near that. He will be given time, and he will give it everything. Don't think I can expect the same of Nagelsmann or Inzaghi or Zidane. The names are big, but they might get exposed. United job ain't for everyone. EtH is the man for the job. Humble, not rattled, doesn't hide, doesn't let his players hide. Rashford against Twente was playing smart. And he will get better. So will the rest of the team. 2025 summer will change the narrative altogether, when Maguire, Lindelof, Evans and Eriksen all leave on a free and we bring in better suited replacements and a LB. People forget we are still a work in progress.
One striker can't score and wants to play as a number 10, while the other is always injured and can only score if he's receiving perfect service.
I think we are way more solid than last season.
People need to stop filling 💩their trousers and keep the faith 👹👹
I thought we’ve turned a corner last week?
@@MrBean118 We played aweful quality teams. It was obviously another false dawn. We will probably beat a Spurs side struggling themselves and all the tub thumping will be back, right before we show how aweful we are again.
Deluded, or is on the Glazer payroll
Tony was there for the taking so it’s only the club’s fault that there’s no obvious goal scorer
Totally agree what you're saying about not using the speed of the premiere league to blow them out the water, Steve.
United play at the level of the opponent
That's a good point.
Look at Coventry and Newport last season. Somehow managed to turn those games into battles. Any team can play through United.
Also: Shoulda won - but remember we didnt lose! The reality isn't as bad as the feeling... at least in terms of results lol.
Rashford played well, but he WILL NOT SCORE many so long as Dalot is playing at LB and inverting. 😕
Dalot inverting makes the centre crowded, forces Rashford to hold the width on the left, and means defenders can more easily double-up on him when he does get the ball. 😩
Amad is our creative winger.
Zirkzee is a supporting striker.
Rashford SHOULD be the main goal threat, but that is impossible when the lineup and tactical setup force him to hug the touchline. 🤷
If Ten Hag wants goals, he needs to ensure that Rashford operates in the left-half space, not on the wide-left.
We could go with an experienced poacher in and around the 6 yard box to relieve the pressure off the young lads whilst they continue their development.
Any 30-32 year olds available on a free or a loan who could do us a job?
When Klopp came to Liverpool they didnt do that well in the table, even worse than with Rogers. But the improvements and the development of a style was very obvious to see. It instilled confidence and motivation in players and fans. Under Ten Hag that was only obvious in the 1st season. After that it seemed to be a roller coaster. What does seem to be happening is a lack of a winning mentality and desire in a lot of critical players.
Maybe Ten Hag lacks charisma and man management skills. Even when talking to the media you can see charisma and people handling skills from SAF, Klopp, Ancelloti, Mourinho, Pep. But in ETH it seems more like defensiveness, whingeing, excusing and a lack of ability to banter or just instil confidence or positivity. Maybe that is why he had problems with Sancho (given what a brat he is), Rashford, CR7. Right now the only high gear motivation appears to be from Garnacho, Amad, Mazraoui (still new though), Martinez (Though more aggresive than motivated).
ON the flip side Solksjaer kept players happy but was not a good tactician. So hope fully Ste's observations here above are correct
Technically they were miles ahead as a collective
Were Twente really on top 2nd half? they were gifted a goal but on shots on goal,shots on target and possession stats they were 2nd best to United.
I don't understand some United fans. Blame the Glazers for everything but make all kinds of excuses for the last Glazer manager. ETH out already...
It was a mistake making Bruno Captain. Now Ten Hag can't undo it. Ten Hag will finish this season, but it will be his last.
Bruno getting the armband killed Maguire and regressed bruno. 2 birds one stone
Ii can't help but thinking. Is NOBODY staying after practice and finetuning their shooting skills anymore? Like Beck's and his sort....? Like.. why can't anybody put it in the net?
I don't understand your rating of Maguire when your 1st point here talked about how slow we were, lacking intensity and that's something Maguire is really shit at. He takes an absolute age on the ball.
Two things I learned: we need to find the positives when things don't go our way and stop being all doom and gloom. We also need to stick by the team and ETH and stop looking for scape goats when we don't get the win. For all our struggles in front of goal, we are bedding in new players and Rasmus is back and getting to full fitness. We go again😂
And the excuse train rumbles on. I think he's a fraud but I'll be happy to be wrong. We will both know by the end of the season.
like all previous managers after Fergie. Or maybe it's the job itself that is a fraud 😂@@cameronjones8641
You're a fraud @@cameronjones8641
It’ll all click and the goals will come but because we’re Man Utd the pressure on eth and media spotlight might jeopardise that
It just feels like this squad has no heart, where's Roy Keane when you need him
When this Utd squad clicks we are going to blow teams away. Trust me
Manager - get Bo Henriksen!
I'm on the verge of calling for Ten Hag to get the sack, to be honest. It doesn't feel like he has us organised properly at all.
We shouldn't have teams scoring and dancing on our turf it's our home
i dont think we were as bad as people are making it to be, yes we need to perform better but i still think the crowd is over reacting a bit
Ten Hag has gotten more players than the other Managers, so if this isn't turned around in 3 game's, Ten Hag is finished!
Patience,, something that people don't have anymore in this modern world.
I'm so fucking grateful you speak sense. Sick to death of all the bellends either creating agendas to make money or just stupid that's who talk out their arse.
Thank you so fucking much. It's great to know there are still sane Utd fans. You're at the top.
You mention Sam at UP but he is terrible.
Thank fuck for you. Spot. The. Fuck. On!
Not ten hag out but things have to change ste
Look I get it.. changing managers suck .. we wish tenhag could be the one.. the second coming of fergie.. but sometimes what we wish for doesn’t necessarily come true and united fans we need to be real… saying that another manager with different ideas won’t make our front line any better is just not right.. tenhag is the most protected manager of all time to the point where logic is thrown out the window!
I disagree. Hes achieved big stuff. If he only improved his subs and dropped bruno when hes not in it wed be optimized imo. Then again, subs are complex, but favoritism doesnt require IQ to stop with. I dont know if hes capable of getting better at this but if he does we will definitely compete for the title. No other manager has taken ajax to cl semis and almost finals in a long long time and he definitely has to have some special football knowledge because i dont think his man management is good at all.
Saying ETH is the most protected manager of all time is just a windup. Have you read anything (traditional media, social media, anything on the internet) in the last 2 years???
So, in summary, we spent all summer after Ugarte and he's not the right fit? Did I hear that right?
We need better attackers, it's quite simple and obvious, we don't have a Salah, we don't have a Haaland, we need that
Even Mbappe and Haaland would struggle in this team under this manager.
@@limbikanimsamba9456 why we need the elite level, he clearly can't coach attacking patterns, or improve our attackers strengths to their optimal level, so you just have to get the individual quality, that can ball out, like when we had Greenwood, Cavani, Pogba, Rashford, Bruno, winning games, despite the managers coaching/tactical floors, because with players like Cavani, Greenwood, they were so high level, they could get the job done, without high level tactical framework, or attacking patterns of play
What about rashford? Wasn't you lot hyping him up for years? The next Mbappe 😂😂😂😂😂
@@BillyJacobs94 that's cap, it was 1 game where Mbappe's disappeared and Rashford won us the tie, and was general banter, he's also not got high level goal output to be a 30 season in, season out, he's a 15- 20, that's not enough, we need more goals
@jean-paulwalters8855 nah after he had that purple patch every united fan was calling him world class and blowing smoke up his arse. That's the reason he got the 350k a week. Absolute joke of a club and fanbase
There is not umph no hunger in his team .
How many wins in the next three games does Ten Hag need to avoid the sack?
I hope he gets the whole season so the excuse merchants can't whine about not having enough time.
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Its like dogs like u want him to fail to use as an excuse to sack him
@@cameronjones8641 Strike one
@@v0n1b0 Fabulous. I think he's gone after Villa.
@v0n1b0 They will not beat Porto and Villa away. Not a bloody chance. I can't stand him. It just blows my kind that people keep talking about giving him time.
Im not jumping on the managers back and ten hag out but managers get sacked on performances like that the names manchester united we shouldn't be giving the ball away misplacing passes making individual mistakes conceding goals things have too and must improve we should have learned from that mistake giving the ball away last season im fearing going into sunday im not confident by any means you dont know what your gonna get i expect the same old same old we dominate games waste chances and get punished we dont and can't kill games and finish games off we arent clinical and also too sloppy
Dalot inverting with Ugarte does not work
Both arent great at progressing or taking it on the half turn