She probably forced other kids to do her homework for her and cheated off others. She most likely thinks that because she was able to game her way through school, then that means she's *really* smart. That people genuinely having and retaining a lot of knowledge aren't ACTUALLY smart like HER. Because...hustle, or something?
the way she's laughing about this person holding some resentment towards someone that hurt them during their formative years just proves to me that she is a bully lmao where is the self awareness
The frustrating thing about bullies is that school absolutely does nothing until the person gets tired of the bullying and fights back. Then its a problem 🙄
Exactly, this girl at my school has tried to SA me multiple times and has literally tried to choke and hit me and my friends, but when we snitched she didn’t get in any trouble because shes a ‘good kid’..
I was once suspended after a group of girls trapped me in the bathroom stall bullying me and I pushed the door open and someone got hit by the door After school the same group of girls + several others decided waiting out the front of the school and forming a circle around me was their right. I pushed them out of my way to report to the principal, because someone else was pushed and they never touched me, I got suspended, they had no punishment I have claustrophobia and severe sensory overwhelm - of course I was going to react
Yep. A boy was pulling my hair dragging me around calling me their pet in class, and the teacher didn’t do anything until I hit them, in which both of us got in trouble. Another time, I was explicitly told that a kid who beat me up got in less trouble than they would had I fought back because mutual fighting was a worse punishment than assault.
Bullying definitely didnt make me "more resilient and confident" it made me drawn back, anxious and hyper aware of myself and others. And its been 7 years since high school.
Well UA-cam deleted my comment since it's very sensitive topic. Bullying is one of main reason why there's violence in schools and effect a lot on the aftermath. For example Columbine and Parkland.
She probably thinks they deserved it because they're 'weak,' or would say something like, "Well, of you're gonna kill yourself bc you were bullied in school, then you wouldn't have survived adulthood anyway." No joke, I genuinely believe one of those would be her response. She is incapable of admitting her logic is bad and that she's a bad person.
This is the beginning of a hallmark movie or a Disney channel type movie where she ends up losing her career and having to move back to her small town and learn lessons from the very people she bullied.
as someone with a psych degree, no it's NOT necessary and ruins A LOT OF CHILDREN, me included. there is NO psychological backing for anything she said😭a lot of my disorders got worse or were caused by the things i dealt with from bullies in school. ive literally been sa'ed & been bullied/mocked for it, physically harmed, etc. but she's acting like americans don't "actually get bullied", i have a ptsd diagnosis FROM HIGH SCHOOL. it's actually insane to say any of these things...this reminds me so much of one of the girl who relentlessly harassed & bullied me cuz she said similar things to me as if she didnt also traumatize me🧍🏻♀️
i would just like to say, as a bio major, i think it’s so crazy she keeps saying stuff like “it’s biological, it’s necessary” like?? no it’s not. there is genuinely nothing biological about being a bully, you don’t bully for no reason, it doesn’t come out of no where like a flight, fight, or freeze response. i just kept cringing every time she mentioned there’s some type of scientific evidence that proves bullying is good. when animals do anything remotely comparable to bullying, more often than not, it’s out of survival. sometimes mothers will leave their sick child if there’s danger, it’s not like a dog is excluding cause another dog is ugly lmao
All bullies are psychopaths on different degrees; judging by the Hare Psycopathy Checklist, they fit. No one can convince me they are not, that's what I've experienced and stuff like this just makes me more convinced. I hate the excuse of "oh but poor bully, their are going through something horrible at home". I don't care, if you think it is ok to hurt people because you are hurting, you are a disgusting human being. I'm about to earn my biology bachelor's degree too (we don't do minors and majors in Mexico) and I also found the biology comment revolting and absolutely ridiculous. If she wanted to sound smart, she did the opposite. Are there bullies in nature? Yeah, birds are some of the most famous bullies, but human animals can be the worst creatures on the planet. And it's not like they bully others for stupid reasons like "looking nerdy".
This is just pure, unapologetic victim blaming. Im speechless. For someone who claims she grew so much since high school, her personality seems pretty awful. Image how she was back then, dude...
It's not that they're "stuck in high-school", the bullying from high-school just sticks w them as they go on. Also, only people who were bullied rationalize that being bullied was a positive experience.
I'm not sure where the comment section went. I'm guessing it was taken by youtube, since this is a sensitive subject. But, about her.... It's her comment about how she said, "she'll always think this way." It's the under developed frontal lobe for me! Once she grows up a teeny bit more, I think she will change her mind. She BARELY has any life experience outside of high-school. Four years isn't long at all. I'm sure her parents are SO PROUD of her. Or better yet, wait until she becomes a parent herself. Imagine she tells her child, "Oh, get over it, being treated poorly is a way to grow & learn. You'll be stronger & know how to stand up for yourself because of it!" Wtf?
@@megadeltsmarcy No, it's the same way that the only parents who beat their kids are parents who were beat as kids. Not ALL people who were bullied do that, but NO people who WEREN'T bullied do that.
There's a difference between people being a little mean and an actual bully.. clear she was a bully. Hate when people dimisss childhood trauma with " It was a long time ago/ they were children"..youd never dismiss any other trauma that way. Having said that, a genuinely good person would take accountability, not mock the person and say bullying happens naturally !?
being bullied as a child led me to make decisions and put myself in situations where i got life long trauma and health conditions and had to spend thousands of pounds on therapy for it 😭😭 like genuinely it affects almost every decision you will make for the rest of ur life until you can heal from it
I got bullied in highschool and the boys turned me into a joke, saying things like "Oh X is gonna date her". Years later, and it still haunts me. When it comes to dating, my self worth is on the floor and I don't know how to fix it...
@@AirConditioner402 i was in the same boat as you! the whole asking me out as a joke thing was really awful, especially when it was said by my crushes and i said yes and they laughed about it n made fun of me forever😭 i still don’t think anyone can truly like me and genuinely think they’re joking every time. but you shouldn’t let them make you think you deserve to be alone forever, if you feel ready and put yourself out there fully, someone will be there to love you unconditionally !!
“Stop dwelling on high school” BRO I LITERALLY CANT NOT DWELL ABOUT THAT?? Hell I can’t even forget what happened to me in elementary school because GUESS WHAT every time I go to therapy I HAVE to bring up the bullying because it’s one of the main reasons why I even need to go to therapy Jesus Christ she’s so dense
Someone is much more likely to remember and maybe confront someone who bullied them compared to them being rude to another person like once. I don't remember any of the strangers or even kids I went to school with that were rude to be a couple times, but I vividly remember all my bullies and their names. So idk it's just different Edit: how she talks and everything like "I'm not fixing friendships" "ppl need to be bullied" just how she talks and sounds honestly, like it isn't even a debate she was a bully and I wouldn't be surprised if she still was 💀💀💀
I haven’t been in middle school for 6 years and even I can still name first and last names and for the ones that rode my bus I can remember where they live! I can even recall specific instances of bullying from 10 minute interactions that happened like 8 years ago because of how traumatic it was.
@@mermaidmoongoddess me too ! I was severely bullied in elementary school and I’ve graduated high school now but things that were said and done to me were absolutely vile and don't by teachers and students constantly 💀💀
the fact that she came out of high school with not ONE friend or relationship speaks volumes. Like I get that that can happen, but to not have kept even ONE friend???
Agreed!! Like it’s a bit different if you’re in your 30s 40s and don’t talk to your old classmates vs like right after graduation/college years. Like dang girl they couldn’t get away from you quick enough lol
this is amazing timing because i literally first heard about this story like an hour ago! my eyes kept rolling involuntarily like every 5 seconds, how delusional can this girl be 😭💀
Kids end their own lives because of bullying all the time. I got diagnosed with ptsd from being bullied. I hate when people say "it made you more resilient/strong!" you shouldn't HAVE to be resilient.
People who bully might be going through something????! What about the kids being bullied? Oooo this self indulgent air head got me absolutely heated as someone who was su*%^al all through school from bullying and I continue to struggle as an adult. Emotional intelligence of a pan.
To me, saying "bullying is necessary for development" is looking at the situation without nuance, it's evaluating the action on its own rather than reframing the goal and reflecting on 'is there a better way to achieve the goal?" Like if her argument is that it bullying builds resilience, there are other ways to build resilience without diminishing a person's self-worth or damaging their mental health. It's immature, she's missing the point, whether that's because she doesn't care or is being deliberately obtuse, I don't know, but, wow.
bullying will make you stronger? What about the kids that kill themselves because of bullying? I remember there was a kid in my brother's class, who was bullied so bad that he brought a bomb to school and literally had a hit list of all the people that bullied him. Bullying just ruins lives. High school is super important, i literally use what i learned everyday in my job. My best friend from high school is still my best friend, i was the maid of honor at her wedding, and she was matron of honor at mine. Were literally each others godmothers for our children. My husband is my high school sweetheart. Im shocked at just how delusional someone can be.
the fact that she doesn't even say 'to people who bully, just don't do it, or try not to do it'...she OBVIOUSLY was a bully in high school and is probably still one now -_-
It's also interesting because she referenced k-dramas and how much worse bullying can be in other countries. After release of "The Glory," which is likely the drama she is referencing, a woman came forward speaking of her past experiences in school and the bullying she endured for 12 YEARS. All the bullies involved acted EXACTLY the same as this girl and either claimed they didn't remember or that it wasn't a big deal. After a long and unsuccessful legal battle, the woman recently ended up taking her own life :(
I was horrible bullied back in high school, it turned me from being a social butterfly to the most anxious reclusive person, Ive had much therapy but even if I dont think about it that experience completely change me, sad but true.
I literally saw this pop up on my For You Page & I couldn’t believe the audacity to say what she did. She has no empathy, but yet couldn’t take the heat when she was bullied. That was karma right there. She was just trying to justify being a bully. I been bullied since primary school & still get it to this day & I’m in my 30’s. I could never be horrible to another person, so I may criticise people for their behaviour/actions but I try to do it in a constructive way. It’s never okay to bully or be mean. Period.
(Slight TW & Longer Paragraph. Also posted this on Haylo Hayley’s video!) As someone who’s been bullied-, please don’t bully anyone. People say that bullying toughens you up, but how is making someone feel like they don’t belong and aren’t worth anything, making them toughen up? The whole “bring back bullying” thing is dumb. It’s always been around and it’s still here. I was bullied to the point where I ate lunch in my mom’s office or in the office. A rumor was started about me and it was on my last day of senior year, I ended up in my mom’s office for the rest of the day.. crying. I was physically bullied too. But I won’t talk about that. I’ve recently been diagnosed with severe social anxiety, ptsd, and severe depression. The last two are due to being bullied so severely. TW: I also have 2 ED’s and one is from being bullied.
15:10 in America you usually leave highschool at 18ish. She’s probably 22. If she went to college she’s probably graduating. Still young but those years are pretty formative.
As someone who was told "If you got cancer and died, I would laugh." That stuff sticks with you. Especially as a person with a LOT of health issues, I always have that nagging feeling that maybe someone else around me feels the same. Its so tiring. And her telling the victims to have sympathy for the bullies while also not having sympathy for the victims is WILD. I agree that sometimes people don't need to be held accountable for things they did when they were really young, but when they show zero self awareness/growth like this, that changes for me.
Also why is she styling it when it's like... soggy. Idk if it was product or if it was just washed but I kept thinking "what styling can you even do with that wet hair"
A couple of things, as a teacher i will say not every case of someone being mean is bullying. Bullying is something continuous and targetted. Now, does that mean being mean is okay? Nope. Not ever. And I've dealt with maaaaany situations of teenagers being mean to each other. People being mean tl you is going to happen at all ages. Bullying is something else entirely and is so unnecessary. As someone who didn't get bullied until I was in university (bc it can be smth that happens in adult life too, so idk about her argument of being out of school 4 years 🙃) it is shattering!! I loved uni and when I went back for my masters I had a MUCH better experience. But my bachelors? Those girls made me mot want to attend at all and I didn’t and got my lowest GPA I've ever gotten bc of that! It is so awful and is not 'needed' ever!!!
Her not being friends with the kids in the ‘smart classes’ makes me feel like she thought she was better than the people in those classes. Her leveraging the fact that she was in those classes also makes me think that she thought she was better than the people who weren’t in those classes as well. It’s really weird that she brought that up at all, I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not she was a bully. Some of the ‘smart’ kids I was in classes with were the worst to others, especially those that refused to make friends in those classes.
The go travel comment is hilarious im sure an all inclusive week in Cancun makes you extremely wise, i dont think most ppl travel in like super enriching way (and tbh nothing wrong with that but it's not some end all be all to becoming an achieved person)
16:12 not super important but I’m pretty sure she’s American which means she likely finished high school at absolutely youngest 17 going on 18 or she was likely 18. That means she’s probably about 22 now as opposed to 19/20.
I feel like bullying ruined my school experience. I still graduated in the top 5 but I feel like I could’ve done better & been more involved if I wasn’t so miserable.
i was bullied in high school = i developed self esteem issues, an ED, have never ONCE stood up for myself off the bat (rarely at all unless its horrifically extreme) so no, it wont help anyone. she is just out here trying to justify her shitty personality (she rly has nothing going for her and it shows)
The thing that I hate about these bullies is they could really ruin someone’s self confidence/mess with their mental health and they just turn around like “lol I don’t even remember what I did, get over it 🤪✌🏻”
I like that instead of taking ownership of bullying that girl And apologizing she decided to just bully her for still caring about being bullied in the past. It really showed that she grew as a person.
I feel like her main focus was point out all her positive things just so she can continue to put people down. But, she says she doesn’t care about high school but makes a whole video about it.
WHAT she got called out for being mean and her response was “Get a life and make money?” Girl you’re being mean right now! Clearly your 4 years haven’t taught you much
I am beyond thankful that I was never bullied in school. I can completely understand though how it would effect the rest of someone’s life. I have a friend who can’t even talk about high school because her experience was so bad. No one should have to feel that way.
I was bullied in highschool and it was so tough at times. I'm doing great now and am so confident in my 27yo self. However, of something comes up in conversation about school or I see bullying on TV, etc, it does bring back the bad memories. It never really leaves you.
“Stop like… dwelling on the past.” … says the girl who has made MULTIPLE TikToks because a girl left ONE comment, calling her a bully. Clearly the comment struck a nerve babes. It’s giving insecure. It’s giving pick me. Idk.. maybe she should just go like… travel or something. 🙄 lmao
I was bullied relentlessly in school for 9 years and believe me when I tell you bullying is not necessary for peoples development. I left school 6 years ago and the after effects of the bullying still affects me and how I see myself/react to things today as a grown adult. And it’s not ok
As someone who was bullied and abused in high-school (over 7 years ago) and is still trying to recover from what happened, this kind of stuff makes me sick. Like how out of touch can you be?? It stays with you for life, in one way or another. Whether you want it to or not. It's not something you ever forget Love that you're speaking on this, Angelica! ❤️
Bullying is not ok. It never was and never will be. I don’t think people are becoming “soft” on the internet, I think as a society, we are taking more notice in bullying in schools and the lack of psychological evidence to back the “makes u tough” mentality. However, I think HEALTHY critiquing can be useful (like when we graded other ppls tests or gave feedback on a speech) Being respectful of one another should be the norm and starting that healthy communication at a young age could possibly be helpful. Once again, bullying a person is not ok and ppl have actually died from intense bullying so no not condemning that. But having children learn healthy communication in school is a more productive and kinder approach. This girl definitely sounds like a bully
She'll also excuse hitting your kids with that mindset. "it's good for you, it makes you stronger". No. As someone who was bullied all her school years - it sticks with you. And it did not make me stronger. I always feel like something is wrong with me. Weight, clothes, generally the way I look, etc. And being aware of cases that are worse than mine also don't make me feel better. Surprisingly.
I’ll be honest, I was a bully in middle school. I was being bullied and also was bullying so my bullies would think I was cool (🤔🤔🤔). Even though that was nearly 20 years ago, if someone called be out for it now, I would genuinely be incredibly sorry. I attempted to take my own life due to bullying, so I know how absolutely awful it can be. I still talk about high school with my therapist because trauma doesn’t expire. The events may have occurred a long time ago, but the feelings they conjure are still fresh. Our little selves are still inside us. This woman’s response is callous, unfeeling, and is a complete representation of who she is at this stage of her life. I hope she grows.
Respect for doing and keeping your UA-cam channel. I always wanted one when I was younger but I was so afraid to be judged and made fun of, and back when it started it was a time people would say if you had an online history you might not get a job and all this stuff. I wish I’d gone with my heart Even if it hadn’t worked out at least I would know what would’ve happened
I was brutally bullied in middle school. As a result, I've spent so much money on therapy because it messed up my life so badly. I still have nightmares about it. Sometimes I'll be doing good in my life, and suddenly it just crashes down because of the memories. I always got the excuse from the teachers that "you never know what your bullies are going through" as if that would be a good reason to take it out on me. This is sometihng that will live with me for the rest of my life. People need to learn that bullying isn't just a quirky little phase.
14:31 "Victims of childhood bullying, including those that bullied others (bully-victims), were at increased risk of poor health, wealth, and social-relationship outcomes in adulthood even after we controlled for family hardship and childhood psychiatric disorders. In contrast, pure bullies were not at increased risk of poor outcomes in adulthood once other family and childhood risk factors were taken into account. Being bullied is not a harmless rite of passage but throws a long shadow over affected people’s lives." - Impact of Bullying in Childhood on Adult Health, Wealth, Crime, and Social Outcomes, Wolke et al, Psychological Science, 2013
The more I hear this chick the more frustrated I get…you made a point about her legacy and it made me picture her getting her high school reunion invitation in the mail and her stomach dropping to the ground remembering this tic tok that no matter how hard she tries to erase it…it will always be there!!!xoxoxo
nah. she’s around 22, because the american school system means most kids going through the system graduate at 18 and she said four years ago. also, can’t believe she doesn’t believe there’s trauma from bullying. sure, i got ptsd from bullying, but thank goodness it wasn’t south korean bullying so i wasn’t literally set on fire! 🤗
i saw the original video when it had barely any likes and thought about saving it but didn’t UGH i wish i had! she had me gagged, i was shocked watching that video! she clearly had no remorse for the way she behaved
The one year I went to private school (great school, horrible people). I was bullied by EVERYONE. Even my “friends” were mean to me. No one deserves that, it doesn’t “build character”. It still affects me today and I have to actively unlearn how to interact with people because of the coping mechanisms I learned from that.
I ve been bullied a lot in my childhood and in Highschool as well. This had extremely negative consequences, I became depressed and tried to destroy myself and take my own life multiple times. Only NOW,as an adult, I finally let go of all what happended with lots of therapy and still going. Only now, years later I feel like a normal human again and had to pay for the damage that others did to me. I have no words for how some people think and I wouldn t wish bullying on anyone.
tik tok has normalized bullying so much like did we forget about how big of a problem cyberbullying is? they made a whole movie about it. there were so many psa's. bullying is never okay. and I mean most of us are out of high schools. we have lives to live who has the time or energy? keep your mean thoughts to yourselves and go to therapy to deal with the root of the problem. you never know how someone will respond to bullying its harmful, dangerous and never adds to any conversation
I'm disabled and was bullied as a kid and a teenager for it, it was relentless. I hate the whole 'bullying makes you stronger' idea because you have no idea what I would give to not have to be this 'strong'. In reality, it gave me massive issues with body image, resenting my disability, isolating myself, shutting down when I get emotional or upset.... the list goes on. For them it was just picking on the kid that was different but for me it was doing everything I could to physically get to school to then be tripped, laughed at, called a cripple... I failed my exams and went on to put myself down just to fit in and accepted people treating me and my needs like shit because it was normal.
I appreciate that u feel bad for her being young… however by her own words everyone was jut trying to help her grow. The bullying from the internet was just part of her growth process 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
i think the thing about being bullied is like, for me at least, I don't even really think about some of the shit my bullies said to me in elementary anymore, but I do think the things they said to me stuck with me in a subconscious way to the point where it influences my behaviour/how i view myself. Especially since I was like 7-11 years old when I was being bullied.
How dare she say that. Any victims know that’s it’s usually the quiet/beautiful ones that become the target. It leaves long term physiological damage on a person.
I got diagnosed with PTSD because of the bullying I endured, specifically in middle school. I am 32 now and I am still working on moving past it. Only a person who did not experience bullying can say "oh, move past it." It's not that easy, babes. Grow up!
I was bullied. And it wad horrible. It was so upsetting reading the Policy in the agendas we were given every year about “zero tolerance for bullying”. My ass. Nothing is ever done.
She got bullied though off the Platform...
Karma. That's Karma.
A taste of irony.💯
I hope it makes her stronger and a better person /S
@@AirConditioner402right, she should be elevated to an 8th dimensional angelic realm now, according to her scientific backings lol
By her own admission, "It's an evolutionary thing" 🤷♀️
She should be happy now, after all getting bullied "builds character" and she's in dire need of building some.
She talks like a bully .
the tone of voice, the manerisms, clocked her for a mean girl the second she started talking
YEP! She sounds SOOO condescending. It's ANNOYING.
From her inability to form a coherent sentence and her lack of vocabulary makes me doubt her claim of being “smart.” 💀
To be fair: vocab and sentence structure also leave my brain the second I realise what I’m saying is absolute garbage 😂😂😂
She probably forced other kids to do her homework for her and cheated off others. She most likely thinks that because she was able to game her way through school, then that means she's *really* smart. That people genuinely having and retaining a lot of knowledge aren't ACTUALLY smart like HER. Because...hustle, or something?
"it's giving evolution theory"
This is the most elitist and classist mindset. This is the same mindset white employers use to deny Black folks opportunities when they use AAVE.
the way she's laughing about this person holding some resentment towards someone that hurt them during their formative years just proves to me that she is a bully lmao where is the self awareness
Right! The way she mocked them was unreal! Only a heartless fourteen year old could be so cruel. guess that must be her mental age
The frustrating thing about bullies is that school absolutely does nothing until the person gets tired of the bullying and fights back. Then its a problem 🙄
Exactly, this girl at my school has tried to SA me multiple times and has literally tried to choke and hit me and my friends, but when we snitched she didn’t get in any trouble because shes a ‘good kid’..
I was once suspended after a group of girls trapped me in the bathroom stall bullying me and I pushed the door open and someone got hit by the door
After school the same group of girls + several others decided waiting out the front of the school and forming a circle around me was their right.
I pushed them out of my way to report to the principal, because someone else was pushed and they never touched me, I got suspended, they had no punishment
I have claustrophobia and severe sensory overwhelm - of course I was going to react
Yep. A boy was pulling my hair dragging me around calling me their pet in class, and the teacher didn’t do anything until I hit them, in which both of us got in trouble. Another time, I was explicitly told that a kid who beat me up got in less trouble than they would had I fought back because mutual fighting was a worse punishment than assault.
Bullying definitely didnt make me "more resilient and confident" it made me drawn back, anxious and hyper aware of myself and others. And its been 7 years since high school.
“it’s giving evolutional theories…. like biological things” oh my GOD.
The only thing it's "giving" is toxic chill girl...
Right like ‘I’m pretty smart and did well in school’ and then she comes out with bangers like that 💀
she’s so brain dead fr lik💀 that’s not how evolution works
she's outward spoken guys
I can't wait for her crying in a grey hoodie with no makeup video where she talks about how she got bullied off tik tok
If she thinks bullying "builds character" why is she so uppity about a singular comment?Let it build your character no?
WTF? Tell that to the families of kids that killed themselves bc of bullying.🤦🏼♂️
Well UA-cam deleted my comment since it's very sensitive topic. Bullying is one of main reason why there's violence in schools and effect a lot on the aftermath. For example Columbine and Parkland.
Unfortunately, she probably feels no sympathy for them.
Tell that to the bullies that cared oh wait none do bullying is still a big issue and it really hasn’t stopped
She probably thinks they deserved it because they're 'weak,' or would say something like, "Well, of you're gonna kill yourself bc you were bullied in school, then you wouldn't have survived adulthood anyway."
No joke, I genuinely believe one of those would be her response. She is incapable of admitting her logic is bad and that she's a bad person.
Everytime you commented that,I always think of Rosalie Avila😢
the irony of saying people shouldn’t care about being bullied and then deletes the video/goes private as soon as people start talking about her
This is the beginning of a hallmark movie or a Disney channel type movie where she ends up losing her career and having to move back to her small town and learn lessons from the very people she bullied.
as someone with a psych degree, no it's NOT necessary and ruins A LOT OF CHILDREN, me included. there is NO psychological backing for anything she said😭a lot of my disorders got worse or were caused by the things i dealt with from bullies in school. ive literally been sa'ed & been bullied/mocked for it, physically harmed, etc. but she's acting like americans don't "actually get bullied", i have a ptsd diagnosis FROM HIGH SCHOOL. it's actually insane to say any of these things...this reminds me so much of one of the girl who relentlessly harassed & bullied me cuz she said similar things to me as if she didnt also traumatize me🧍🏻♀️
i would just like to say, as a bio major, i think it’s so crazy she keeps saying stuff like “it’s biological, it’s necessary” like?? no it’s not. there is genuinely nothing biological about being a bully, you don’t bully for no reason, it doesn’t come out of no where like a flight, fight, or freeze response. i just kept cringing every time she mentioned there’s some type of scientific evidence that proves bullying is good. when animals do anything remotely comparable to bullying, more often than not, it’s out of survival. sometimes mothers will leave their sick child if there’s danger, it’s not like a dog is excluding cause another dog is ugly lmao
All bullies are psychopaths on different degrees; judging by the Hare Psycopathy Checklist, they fit. No one can convince me they are not, that's what I've experienced and stuff like this just makes me more convinced. I hate the excuse of "oh but poor bully, their are going through something horrible at home". I don't care, if you think it is ok to hurt people because you are hurting, you are a disgusting human being.
I'm about to earn my biology bachelor's degree too (we don't do minors and majors in Mexico) and I also found the biology comment revolting and absolutely ridiculous. If she wanted to sound smart, she did the opposite. Are there bullies in nature? Yeah, birds are some of the most famous bullies, but human animals can be the worst creatures on the planet. And it's not like they bully others for stupid reasons like "looking nerdy".
This is just pure, unapologetic victim blaming. Im speechless. For someone who claims she grew so much since high school, her personality seems pretty awful. Image how she was back then, dude...
It's the fact that she's defending that she was a bully at 14. I would forgive it if she regretted it. Also I'm still scared of teenagers too lol.
It's not that they're "stuck in high-school", the bullying from high-school just sticks w them as they go on. Also, only people who were bullied rationalize that being bullied was a positive experience.
People who were bullied or people who were bullies?? Sorry, I'm a little confused
I'm not sure where the comment section went. I'm guessing it was taken by youtube, since this is a sensitive subject.
But, about her....
It's her comment about how she said, "she'll always think this way."
It's the under developed frontal lobe for me! Once she grows up a teeny bit more, I think she will change her mind. She BARELY has any life experience outside of high-school. Four years isn't long at all. I'm sure her parents are SO PROUD of her. Or better yet, wait until she becomes a parent herself. Imagine she tells her child, "Oh, get over it, being treated poorly is a way to grow & learn. You'll be stronger & know how to stand up for yourself because of it!"
Wtf?
did you mean people who were bullies?? because i was bullied heavily and i promise you i do not rationalize that it was positive at all lmao
@@megadeltsmarcy No, it's the same way that the only parents who beat their kids are parents who were beat as kids. Not ALL people who were bullied do that, but NO people who WEREN'T bullied do that.
Exactly! The absolute victim blaming and excusing the behaviour! Yea I get kids will be kids but really 😅
bring back diaries in 2024
Yes those My Password Journals need to make a comeback because I miss secrets.
oh my god this
In the US most high-school grads are 18. So she's 21 or 22
she said OVER 4 years ago, so she’s actually 22 or 23.. even worse lol
@@goopbuni ugh! Sad just sad
Her saying “I feel like there is some psychological backing” 😭😭 she couldn’t look into it at all?? There is no backing
There's a difference between people being a little mean and an actual bully.. clear she was a bully. Hate when people dimisss childhood trauma with " It was a long time ago/ they were children"..youd never dismiss any other trauma that way.
Having said that, a genuinely good person would take accountability, not mock the person and say bullying happens naturally !?
She is not likable at all 🤢 I’m not surprised she has no friends from school..
Also the biggest pick me I’ve seen in a long time 😂
I'm 30 I was bullied for a long time. It still affects me.
She obviously didn’t take anything from school. She can’t even talk properly 🥲
being bullied as a child led me to make decisions and put myself in situations where i got life long trauma and health conditions and had to spend thousands of pounds on therapy for it 😭😭 like genuinely it affects almost every decision you will make for the rest of ur life until you can heal from it
I got bullied in highschool and the boys turned me into a joke, saying things like "Oh X is gonna date her".
Years later, and it still haunts me. When it comes to dating, my self worth is on the floor and I don't know how to fix it...
@@AirConditioner402 i was in the same boat as you! the whole asking me out as a joke thing was really awful, especially when it was said by my crushes and i said yes and they laughed about it n made fun of me forever😭 i still don’t think anyone can truly like me and genuinely think they’re joking every time. but you shouldn’t let them make you think you deserve to be alone forever, if you feel ready and put yourself out there fully, someone will be there to love you unconditionally !!
“Stop dwelling on high school” BRO I LITERALLY CANT NOT DWELL ABOUT THAT?? Hell I can’t even forget what happened to me in elementary school because GUESS WHAT every time I go to therapy I HAVE to bring up the bullying because it’s one of the main reasons why I even need to go to therapy Jesus Christ she’s so dense
Someone is much more likely to remember and maybe confront someone who bullied them compared to them being rude to another person like once. I don't remember any of the strangers or even kids I went to school with that were rude to be a couple times, but I vividly remember all my bullies and their names. So idk it's just different
Edit: how she talks and everything like "I'm not fixing friendships" "ppl need to be bullied" just how she talks and sounds honestly, like it isn't even a debate she was a bully and I wouldn't be surprised if she still was 💀💀💀
I haven’t been in middle school for 6 years and even I can still name first and last names and for the ones that rode my bus I can remember where they live! I can even recall specific instances of bullying from 10 minute interactions that happened like 8 years ago because of how traumatic it was.
@@mermaidmoongoddess me too ! I was severely bullied in elementary school and I’ve graduated high school now but things that were said and done to me were absolutely vile and don't by teachers and students constantly 💀💀
the fact that she came out of high school with not ONE friend or relationship speaks volumes. Like I get that that can happen, but to not have kept even ONE friend???
Agreed!! Like it’s a bit different if you’re in your 30s 40s and don’t talk to your old classmates vs like right after graduation/college years. Like dang girl they couldn’t get away from you quick enough lol
this is amazing timing because i literally first heard about this story like an hour ago! my eyes kept rolling involuntarily like every 5 seconds, how delusional can this girl be 😭💀
Did you watch Haylo Hayley’s version? 😭
yes!! that's the video I watched haha, discovered her channel yesterday and binged so many of her vids@@victoria_xo884
yes!! that's the video i watched haha@@victoria_xo884
I kept laughing out loud followed by me audibly blurting out “oh I hate her” every 5 seconds 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kids end their own lives because of bullying all the time. I got diagnosed with ptsd from being bullied. I hate when people say "it made you more resilient/strong!" you shouldn't HAVE to be resilient.
People who bully might be going through something????! What about the kids being bullied? Oooo this self indulgent air head got me absolutely heated as someone who was su*%^al all through school from bullying and I continue to struggle as an adult. Emotional intelligence of a pan.
To me, saying "bullying is necessary for development" is looking at the situation without nuance, it's evaluating the action on its own rather than reframing the goal and reflecting on 'is there a better way to achieve the goal?" Like if her argument is that it bullying builds resilience, there are other ways to build resilience without diminishing a person's self-worth or damaging their mental health. It's immature, she's missing the point, whether that's because she doesn't care or is being deliberately obtuse, I don't know, but, wow.
“I wasn’t a bully but bullying people is good for you hehe also I’m victim blaming”
Never seen someone less empathetic or likeable haha
bullying will make you stronger? What about the kids that kill themselves because of bullying? I remember there was a kid in my brother's class, who was bullied so bad that he brought a bomb to school and literally had a hit list of all the people that bullied him. Bullying just ruins lives. High school is super important, i literally use what i learned everyday in my job. My best friend from high school is still my best friend, i was the maid of honor at her wedding, and she was matron of honor at mine. Were literally each others godmothers for our children. My husband is my high school sweetheart. Im shocked at just how delusional someone can be.
Going forward, people have to stop making videos announcing how not sorry they are. The lack of an apology is just fine.
An American being pro bullying is crazy. Like we know what happens over there when people are bullied to their breaking point.
the fact that she doesn't even say 'to people who bully, just don't do it, or try not to do it'...she OBVIOUSLY was a bully in high school and is probably still one now -_-
This girl is insufferable. To me she seems like she is still in high school. Very immature
It's also interesting because she referenced k-dramas and how much worse bullying can be in other countries. After release of "The Glory," which is likely the drama she is referencing, a woman came forward speaking of her past experiences in school and the bullying she endured for 12 YEARS. All the bullies involved acted EXACTLY the same as this girl and either claimed they didn't remember or that it wasn't a big deal. After a long and unsuccessful legal battle, the woman recently ended up taking her own life :(
I was horrible bullied back in high school, it turned me from being a social butterfly to the most anxious reclusive person, Ive had much therapy but even if I dont think about it that experience completely change me, sad but true.
the best thing to come up with this are all the parodies that were made about that video 😭
I literally saw this pop up on my For You Page & I couldn’t believe the audacity to say what she did. She has no empathy, but yet couldn’t take the heat when she was bullied. That was karma right there. She was just trying to justify being a bully. I been bullied since primary school & still get it to this day & I’m in my 30’s. I could never be horrible to another person, so I may criticise people for their behaviour/actions but I try to do it in a constructive way. It’s never okay to bully or be mean. Period.
"They say all teenagers scare the living sh*t out of me. They can't care less as long as someone will bleed..."🎶 Rings true for me for years.
(Slight TW & Longer Paragraph.
Also posted this on Haylo Hayley’s video!)
As someone who’s been bullied-, please don’t bully anyone. People say that bullying toughens you up, but how is making someone feel like they don’t belong and aren’t worth anything, making them toughen up?
The whole “bring back bullying” thing is dumb. It’s always been around and it’s still here.
I was bullied to the point where I ate lunch in my mom’s office or in the office. A rumor was started about me and it was on my last day of senior year, I ended up in my mom’s office for the rest of the day.. crying.
I was physically bullied too. But I won’t talk about that.
I’ve recently been diagnosed with severe social anxiety, ptsd, and severe depression. The last two are due to being bullied so severely.
TW:
I also have 2 ED’s and one is from being bullied.
15:10 in America you usually leave highschool at 18ish. She’s probably 22. If she went to college she’s probably graduating. Still young but those years are pretty formative.
the topic aside, you always have the COZIEST looking sweaters! you look adorably toasty today :)
Thank you 😭 I was channeling Rory from Gilmore Girls 🤎🍁
@@AngelikaOlesyess she’s a Gilmore girls stan 😊
As someone who was told "If you got cancer and died, I would laugh." That stuff sticks with you. Especially as a person with a LOT of health issues, I always have that nagging feeling that maybe someone else around me feels the same. Its so tiring.
And her telling the victims to have sympathy for the bullies while also not having sympathy for the victims is WILD. I agree that sometimes people don't need to be held accountable for things they did when they were really young, but when they show zero self awareness/growth like this, that changes for me.
No because the most annoying part of her video was the way she kept playing with her hair and changing nothing
Also why is she styling it when it's like... soggy. Idk if it was product or if it was just washed but I kept thinking "what styling can you even do with that wet hair"
@@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3 based on her video you can only style it side parted or middle parted lol
She took just about as much effort changing her hair as she does with her personality. Just going around in circles but not getting ANYWHERE. 😅😅
A couple of things, as a teacher i will say not every case of someone being mean is bullying. Bullying is something continuous and targetted. Now, does that mean being mean is okay? Nope. Not ever. And I've dealt with maaaaany situations of teenagers being mean to each other. People being mean tl you is going to happen at all ages. Bullying is something else entirely and is so unnecessary.
As someone who didn't get bullied until I was in university (bc it can be smth that happens in adult life too, so idk about her argument of being out of school 4 years 🙃) it is shattering!! I loved uni and when I went back for my masters I had a MUCH better experience. But my bachelors? Those girls made me mot want to attend at all and I didn’t and got my lowest GPA I've ever gotten bc of that! It is so awful and is not 'needed' ever!!!
love how she claims to be pretty smart and then proceeds to say the most unintelligent stuff ever.
The fact that THIS PERSON claims she was intelligent... GURL. If you were, what happened????
"I was pretty smart.. like i am pretty smart" mhm yeah clearly
Her not being friends with the kids in the ‘smart classes’ makes me feel like she thought she was better than the people in those classes. Her leveraging the fact that she was in those classes also makes me think that she thought she was better than the people who weren’t in those classes as well. It’s really weird that she brought that up at all, I don’t think it has anything to do with whether or not she was a bully. Some of the ‘smart’ kids I was in classes with were the worst to others, especially those that refused to make friends in those classes.
The go travel comment is hilarious im sure an all inclusive week in Cancun makes you extremely wise, i dont think most ppl travel in like super enriching way (and tbh nothing wrong with that but it's not some end all be all to becoming an achieved person)
16:12 not super important but I’m pretty sure she’s American which means she likely finished high school at absolutely youngest 17 going on 18 or she was likely 18. That means she’s probably about 22 now as opposed to 19/20.
I feel like bullying ruined my school experience. I still graduated in the top 5 but I feel like I could’ve done better & been more involved if I wasn’t so miserable.
I’d literally be a nurse right now but I dropped my nursing class in high school because of the bullies and the teacher not doing anything.
i was bullied in high school = i developed self esteem issues, an ED, have never ONCE stood up for myself off the bat (rarely at all unless its horrifically extreme)
so no, it wont help anyone. she is just out here trying to justify her shitty personality (she rly has nothing going for her and it shows)
The thing that I hate about these bullies is they could really ruin someone’s self confidence/mess with their mental health and they just turn around like “lol I don’t even remember what I did, get over it 🤪✌🏻”
I like that instead of taking ownership of bullying that girl And apologizing she decided to just bully her for still caring about being bullied in the past. It really showed that she grew as a person.
I feel like her main focus was point out all her positive things just so she can continue to put people down. But, she says she doesn’t care about high school but makes a whole video about it.
WHAT she got called out for being mean and her response was “Get a life and make money?” Girl you’re being mean right now! Clearly your 4 years haven’t taught you much
I am beyond thankful that I was never bullied in school. I can completely understand though how it would effect the rest of someone’s life. I have a friend who can’t even talk about high school because her experience was so bad. No one should have to feel that way.
I was bullied in highschool and it was so tough at times. I'm doing great now and am so confident in my 27yo self. However, of something comes up in conversation about school or I see bullying on TV, etc, it does bring back the bad memories. It never really leaves you.
I sometimes watch "mean girl"-satire reels and think "it's funny, but I'm grateful no one acts like this in real life". And then I saw this...
“Stop like… dwelling on the past.” … says the girl who has made MULTIPLE TikToks because a girl left ONE comment, calling her a bully.
Clearly the comment struck a nerve babes. It’s giving insecure. It’s giving pick me. Idk.. maybe she should just go like… travel or something. 🙄 lmao
Ohh she was for sure a bully... Only bullies would justify bullying
Make sense I dont like interacting with people with that mindset.
I was bullied relentlessly in school for 9 years and believe me when I tell you bullying is not necessary for peoples development. I left school 6 years ago and the after effects of the bullying still affects me and how I see myself/react to things today as a grown adult. And it’s not ok
Her whole Tiktok is exactly what a bully would say. How ironic hahahah
Omg the way she is talking is so condescending and that vocal fry is like nails on a chalkboard
As someone who was bullied and abused in high-school (over 7 years ago) and is still trying to recover from what happened, this kind of stuff makes me sick. Like how out of touch can you be??
It stays with you for life, in one way or another. Whether you want it to or not. It's not something you ever forget
Love that you're speaking on this, Angelica! ❤️
"I was smart in school" ok clearly not smart enough to understand how bullying people might effect them ?
Bullying is not ok. It never was and never will be. I don’t think people are becoming “soft” on the internet, I think as a society, we are taking more notice in bullying in schools and the lack of psychological evidence to back the “makes u tough” mentality. However, I think HEALTHY critiquing can be useful (like when we graded other ppls tests or gave feedback on a speech) Being respectful of one another should be the norm and starting that healthy communication at a young age could possibly be helpful. Once again, bullying a person is not ok and ppl have actually died from intense bullying so no not condemning that. But having children learn healthy communication in school is a more productive and kinder approach.
This girl definitely sounds like a bully
She'll also excuse hitting your kids with that mindset. "it's good for you, it makes you stronger".
No.
As someone who was bullied all her school years - it sticks with you. And it did not make me stronger. I always feel like something is wrong with me. Weight, clothes, generally the way I look, etc. And being aware of cases that are worse than mine also don't make me feel better. Surprisingly.
I’ll be honest, I was a bully in middle school. I was being bullied and also was bullying so my bullies would think I was cool (🤔🤔🤔). Even though that was nearly 20 years ago, if someone called be out for it now, I would genuinely be incredibly sorry. I attempted to take my own life due to bullying, so I know how absolutely awful it can be. I still talk about high school with my therapist because trauma doesn’t expire.
The events may have occurred a long time ago, but the feelings they conjure are still fresh. Our little selves are still inside us. This woman’s response is callous, unfeeling, and is a complete representation of who she is at this stage of her life. I hope she grows.
Being bullied in elementary school affected my self esteem and perception for years. It was only in my 20s that I began to heal.
love the side by side, ur reactions to her talking are sooooo funny
Gajaa didnt know trauma just gets magically cured the moment you finish highschool
Respect for doing and keeping your UA-cam channel. I always wanted one when I was younger but I was so afraid to be judged and made fun of, and back when it started it was a time people would say if you had an online history you might not get a job and all this stuff. I wish I’d gone with my heart
Even if it hadn’t worked out at least I would know what would’ve happened
I was brutally bullied in middle school. As a result, I've spent so much money on therapy because it messed up my life so badly. I still have nightmares about it. Sometimes I'll be doing good in my life, and suddenly it just crashes down because of the memories. I always got the excuse from the teachers that "you never know what your bullies are going through" as if that would be a good reason to take it out on me. This is sometihng that will live with me for the rest of my life. People need to learn that bullying isn't just a quirky little phase.
14:31 "Victims of childhood bullying, including those that bullied others (bully-victims), were at increased risk of poor health, wealth, and social-relationship outcomes in adulthood even after we controlled for family hardship and childhood psychiatric disorders. In contrast, pure bullies were not at increased risk of poor outcomes in adulthood once other family and childhood risk factors were taken into account. Being bullied is not a harmless rite of passage but throws a long shadow over affected people’s lives."
- Impact of Bullying in Childhood on Adult Health, Wealth, Crime, and Social Outcomes, Wolke et al, Psychological Science, 2013
The more I hear this chick the more frustrated I get…you made a point about her legacy and it made me picture her getting her high school reunion invitation in the mail and her stomach dropping to the ground remembering this tic tok that no matter how hard she tries to erase it…it will always be there!!!xoxoxo
Using kdramas to defend American bullying 😂😂😂 bullying in kdramas is not bullying, it’s assault and torture so wtf is she on about.
nah. she’s around 22, because the american school system means most kids going through the system graduate at 18 and she said four years ago. also, can’t believe she doesn’t believe there’s trauma from bullying. sure, i got ptsd from bullying, but thank goodness it wasn’t south korean bullying so i wasn’t literally set on fire! 🤗
i saw the original video when it had barely any likes and thought about saving it but didn’t UGH i wish i had! she had me gagged, i was shocked watching that video! she clearly had no remorse for the way she behaved
My favorite part is that she acts like she’s still stuck in middle school, especially with those fake, childish mocking laughs
The one year I went to private school (great school, horrible people). I was bullied by EVERYONE. Even my “friends” were mean to me. No one deserves that, it doesn’t “build character”. It still affects me today and I have to actively unlearn how to interact with people because of the coping mechanisms I learned from that.
I ve been bullied a lot in my childhood and in Highschool as well. This had extremely negative consequences, I became depressed and tried to destroy myself and take my own life multiple times. Only NOW,as an adult, I finally let go of all what happended with lots of therapy and still going. Only now, years later I feel like a normal human again and had to pay for the damage that others did to me. I have no words for how some people think and I wouldn t wish bullying on anyone.
tik tok has normalized bullying so much like did we forget about how big of a problem cyberbullying is? they made a whole movie about it. there were so many psa's. bullying is never okay. and I mean most of us are out of high schools. we have lives to live who has the time or energy? keep your mean thoughts to yourselves and go to therapy to deal with the root of the problem. you never know how someone will respond to bullying its harmful, dangerous and never adds to any conversation
14:21 does social media not exist in other countries??? What 😭
I'm disabled and was bullied as a kid and a teenager for it, it was relentless.
I hate the whole 'bullying makes you stronger' idea because you have no idea what I would give to not have to be this 'strong'.
In reality, it gave me massive issues with body image, resenting my disability, isolating myself, shutting down when I get emotional or upset.... the list goes on.
For them it was just picking on the kid that was different but for me it was doing everything I could to physically get to school to then be tripped, laughed at, called a cripple... I failed my exams and went on to put myself down just to fit in and accepted people treating me and my needs like shit because it was normal.
She would be absolutely miserable to talk to
yeah shes definitely a bully😂
I appreciate that u feel bad for her being young… however by her own words everyone was jut trying to help her grow. The bullying from the internet was just part of her growth process 🤷🏾♀️🤷🏾♀️
i think the thing about being bullied is like, for me at least, I don't even really think about some of the shit my bullies said to me in elementary anymore, but I do think the things they said to me stuck with me in a subconscious way to the point where it influences my behaviour/how i view myself. Especially since I was like 7-11 years old when I was being bullied.
How dare she say that. Any victims know that’s it’s usually the quiet/beautiful ones that become the target. It leaves long term physiological damage on a person.
Omg, seeing Angelika get fed up and snark at a bully is kinda... cathartic? Lol
I love that to disprove she was a bully in high school she showed us that she’s still a bully NOW
I got diagnosed with PTSD because of the bullying I endured, specifically in middle school. I am 32 now and I am still working on moving past it. Only a person who did not experience bullying can say "oh, move past it." It's not that easy, babes. Grow up!
I was bullied. And it wad horrible. It was so upsetting reading the Policy in the agendas we were given every year about “zero tolerance for bullying”. My ass. Nothing is ever done.
The bully will never remeber being a bully, but the victim will remeber the bullying forever.