biggest wish for this game as a kid was myth units and GPs being more central to gameplay. Never imagined we would get an all-time remake of this game that did exactly that
@@hardworkpaysoff4206 That’s a silly statement as Myth Units did feel like Myth Units. It’s more like the legacy game didn’t let you just create an army of monsters due to the favor limitations. Thus their impact felt lessened due to how many you could make. That being said, I do like some of the changes that they made to some units as it feels like, “Yeah, there’s definitely a use for this unit now.”
Yeah they're much more fun to play with now. My only wish is that the Egyptian and Atlantean Myth units had received the same love that Greeks and Norse did. It feels like their Myth units got huge glow-ups with a bunch of new toys.
The cyclop rework was REALLY needed....I always hated how we couldn't control where the things they caught were thrown at, so the SPLASH damage wasnt used as much in the original
I like the idea of making the cyclops this crowd killer/siege unit, but the 50 less hp and only 30% hack armour are REALLY bad imo, they are supposed to be tanks. They look pretty small as well since they are giants, but have the same size of minotaurs
Man this game really, really needs a balance patch prior to the Red Bull Tournament hahah. I doubt may players are going to be interested in watching Hades vs Hades all day. As soon as that Oranos player had a dozen Toxotes in his base there was literally nothing he could do.
GG! I played with cyclopes recently and damn they're good; especially with the upgrade. I expected the bow upgrade from Ares to be stronger. I didn't get much of a difference between the two. The hoplites divine damage is also strong. Getting hyasptis early is also strong. I would just go Ares all the time!
If they were to buff Atlanteans in general, I think it would be fair to reduce the cost of their citizens just by a bit. It doesn't boost their economy, but it allows them to approach the game in more ways, as they have more leftover resources in the early game to play with.
I think Tunison needed more Satyrs. In my experience they are such a huge counter to Cyclops, especially in groups with all the javelin throws, and those could clean up scores of Toxotes in one go as well. Maybe he was trying to save the favour for more god powers? But with a critical mass of Satyrs and a bit of kiting he could have essentially brick walled any attempt at a Cyclops push.
I thought they were going with a change of mechanics with the greeks. Instead of bonus to infantry, cavalry and archers, they would go with different bonuses to myth units. After beta, they brought back the military bonus PLUS the MU bonuses. That's ridiculous!
So, after witnessing the game you came to the conclusion that hades is stronger that why he won? He won because of a lucky throw in the first cyclop fight that he didnt even micro. With good micro he would win easily. Also, pure turma army would completely destroy those toxotes. No idea why he didn't go for it. It was skill differences between the players really
While it is nice to have myth units be more central, don't you think they are a bit too strong for some? They cost very little for their efficiency and the damage they deal can be a bit absurb
Oranos should be given the movespeed back without needing to be researched. BTW Atlantean is really weak right now, As someone who mainly plays them, They are so weak that I have been side playing as norse teams, They just have a weird units murillos not getting bonus damage against cavs for a slight advantage in a 1v1 with a hoplite is odd. now that most archers have bonus damage to infantry, Destoryers are alot less effective huskarls as well. You just get alot more value out of any other teams main infantry line.
In your opinion is the game really as unbalanced as it looks here? Just seems crazy that Hades can just build a few cyclops or minotaurs and spam toxotes and nobody can do anything about it because cav isn't even able to reach the toxotes.. Compare that with the incredibly weak classical age myth units that atlanteans have and I have no idea how they are ever supposed to even compete with this. Also atlantean hero powers are simply a joke now. In the original games they were designed to be purposefully weak but the fact that you could use them multiple times made up for that. Now however they are still super weak but every civ can use their hero power multiple times, making at least some atlantean hero powers seemingly completely underpowered. I'm more of a casual player these days but even to me it is painfully obvious why atlanteans have such low winrates and hades is so incredinly strong.
U should get rid of the face cam it takes up too much room. Also would be cool if it was like how t90 streams and shows live chat. I like seeing what ppl r saying it helps learn things and stuff
Nah. Atlanteans just suck rn. All their myth units suck too, ewpecially with the nerfed stats and removed insta kills. Favour generation is also shit. Good luck recasting GP when youre too broke to even build automatons
All Atlantean’s need some buff plus favour buff…..they can add more favour generation plus more bonus. Make hero vils for gaia cheaper, for kronos cheaper and faster myth units and oranos make faster all units not only infantry…..plus better gen favour
I really like the myth unit changes, feels even more central to the game
biggest wish for this game as a kid was myth units and GPs being more central to gameplay. Never imagined we would get an all-time remake of this game that did exactly that
Yeeees bro, myth units feel more like, you know ...myth units. They should be powerful, they should be unique and fun...they are literally MYTH UNITS.
@@Flamamacueexactly, it makes the game so much more fun
@@hardworkpaysoff4206 That’s a silly statement as Myth Units did feel like Myth Units.
It’s more like the legacy game didn’t let you just create an army of monsters due to the favor limitations. Thus their impact felt lessened due to how many you could make.
That being said, I do like some of the changes that they made to some units as it feels like, “Yeah, there’s definitely a use for this unit now.”
Yeah they're much more fun to play with now. My only wish is that the Egyptian and Atlantean Myth units had received the same love that Greeks and Norse did. It feels like their Myth units got huge glow-ups with a bunch of new toys.
I'm so happy seeing ao2 legends play this game. Big fan of viper and dauty
Daut might a slow player and a meme, but he has fantastic game sense and is willing to go for it.
He’s a big reason why AoE2 has such a fun pro scene.
Hes slow in comparison to pros 👍
@@NathanCassidy721 bro won Red Bull Wololo against Viper(?) With Cav Archers during a time when everyone thought they were weak.
@@Goldenblade14 I think it was against Lierey, which makes it even better
Daut has the 6th highest earnings as an AOE2 Pro, guys a beast
Daut faster than like 99% of the players. He just slow compared to TOP players with INSANE APM. Him being slow is a MEME.
Cyclops games hit different.
They hit like a club.
They get tossed around a lot, yeah
@@DustlnTheWind now cyclops are even more funny with their aoe dps 😅😅 i like them
You have to keep one eye on them
The cyclop rework was REALLY needed....I always hated how we couldn't control where the things they caught were thrown at, so the SPLASH damage wasnt used as much in the original
I like the idea of making the cyclops this crowd killer/siege unit, but the 50 less hp and only 30% hack armour are REALLY bad imo, they are supposed to be tanks. They look pretty small as well since they are giants, but have the same size of minotaurs
Tunison got the "Crossbow castle rush" special from our lord Daut 😂😂😂
Finally seeing cyclops! I would actually do this in extended edition as hades-cover cyclops with toxotes. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition
He came, he saw, he conquered. All hail Lord Daut 🧎
He saw, he conquered, he came
Fun Fact: The 5th Pantheon was leaked and Daut is a Major God, confirmed.
Oh ! I would be so down for an event with daut as a god
Those 3 Cyclopes picking up those 3 Cavalry for Toxotes to shoot them down - that looked so nasty, I felt bad for them
Ahh let's go Daut, what a legend, Cyclops are the best
These casts deserve many more views...
Cyclops + toxotes is the old meta, right? o:
Man this game really, really needs a balance patch prior to the Red Bull Tournament hahah. I doubt may players are going to be interested in watching Hades vs Hades all day.
As soon as that Oranos player had a dozen Toxotes in his base there was literally nothing he could do.
Daut playing with no vil AQ, hes went in hard
Daut is just playing AoE2 on AoT... it's amazing how big the skill gap is when a player transfers from such a micro intensive game to this one.
Oranos has the highest win rate so far
GG! I played with cyclopes recently and damn they're good; especially with the upgrade. I expected the bow upgrade from Ares to be stronger. I didn't get much of a difference between the two. The hoplites divine damage is also strong. Getting hyasptis early is also strong. I would just go Ares all the time!
My only complaint about this match is that there were no Daut Fortresses
Wait, what happened to the titans action? :C
If they were to buff Atlanteans in general, I think it would be fair to reduce the cost of their citizens just by a bit. It doesn't boost their economy, but it allows them to approach the game in more ways, as they have more leftover resources in the early game to play with.
we'll we have a daut fortress in AOM? i hope so!
Cyclops chucking a Contarius onto TC right before gg: KOBE!
I think Tunison needed more Satyrs. In my experience they are such a huge counter to Cyclops, especially in groups with all the javelin throws, and those could clean up scores of Toxotes in one go as well. Maybe he was trying to save the favour for more god powers? But with a critical mass of Satyrs and a bit of kiting he could have essentially brick walled any attempt at a Cyclops push.
Game looks really good on max settings
Hades mains best mains
I'm here to see the Daut fortress.
I thought they were going with a change of mechanics with the greeks. Instead of bonus to infantry, cavalry and archers, they would go with different bonuses to myth units. After beta, they brought back the military bonus PLUS the MU bonuses. That's ridiculous!
Worst god vs best god I wonder who will win 😂
So, after witnessing the game you came to the conclusion that hades is stronger that why he won?
He won because of a lucky throw in the first cyclop fight that he didnt even micro. With good micro he would win easily.
Also, pure turma army would completely destroy those toxotes. No idea why he didn't go for it. It was skill differences between the players really
Daut cooked this one himself all while doing manual villager q
Will we see Daut castle ?
While it is nice to have myth units be more central, don't you think they are a bit too strong for some? They cost very little for their efficiency and the damage they deal can be a bit absurb
jeje, are you going to upload the 1:30 hour long one?
needed regenerating hero destroyers. would kill everything
What a fun game.
Oranos should be given the movespeed back without needing to be researched.
BTW Atlantean is really weak right now,
As someone who mainly plays them, They are so weak that I have been side playing as norse teams, They just have a weird units
murillos not getting bonus damage against cavs for a slight advantage in a 1v1 with a hoplite is odd.
now that most archers have bonus damage to infantry, Destoryers are alot less effective
huskarls as well.
You just get alot more value out of any other teams main infantry line.
this game keeps crashing on me on xbox
Why didnt he mass turma with some turma heroes, should be able to hard counter Daut's comp. I think Contarius is the wrong play here
That's what I'm saying
In your opinion is the game really as unbalanced as it looks here? Just seems crazy that Hades can just build a few cyclops or minotaurs and spam toxotes and nobody can do anything about it because cav isn't even able to reach the toxotes.. Compare that with the incredibly weak classical age myth units that atlanteans have and I have no idea how they are ever supposed to even compete with this. Also atlantean hero powers are simply a joke now. In the original games they were designed to be purposefully weak but the fact that you could use them multiple times made up for that. Now however they are still super weak but every civ can use their hero power multiple times, making at least some atlantean hero powers seemingly completely underpowered. I'm more of a casual player these days but even to me it is painfully obvious why atlanteans have such low winrates and hades is so incredinly strong.
U should get rid of the face cam it takes up too much room. Also would be cool if it was like how t90 streams and shows live chat. I like seeing what ppl r saying it helps learn things and stuff
Let me poll YT and see what they prefer.
atlantean units are so weak man
Greek too strong.
Nah. Atlanteans just suck rn. All their myth units suck too, ewpecially with the nerfed stats and removed insta kills. Favour generation is also shit. Good luck recasting GP when youre too broke to even build automatons
All Atlantean’s need some buff plus favour buff…..they can add more favour generation plus more bonus. Make hero vils for gaia cheaper, for kronos cheaper and faster myth units and oranos make faster all units not only infantry…..plus better gen favour
They will probably balance the game in future patches, I think
Yeah, it was insane seeing classic age Hades just make a mockery out of heroic age Oranos throwing GPs out the wazoo at him.
I've never had an answer to any of the questions on this channel about this game....what a joke,unfollow !
what a game