If you pay attention to the R in the HUD bar, you’ll be able to see that it turns golden when an enemy has enough stacks applied to be killed. In case you didn’t know!
Dang, as if they could remove any more skill expression from the character. R button goes brrrrr. Her Q is too long range, W is way too good, passive is way too strong, E is...well it probably does too much damage? And her R is just a free kill. Like wtf is going on Riot.
@@ZerglingOne1 The problem is that she does way too much damage for how her passive works. They could also rework it so that her stacks decrease MR instead. It could probably work like Kalista spears where you play for stacks before using ult to do damage. The skill expression would be her ability to both hit and avoid enemies since she’d be playing like a wet noodle until she ramps up.
This champ is also good for stealing dragon. The execute works there too at around 500 hp. You basically force the enemy team to require a smite or it will auto go to Mel.
Yep, mels reflect not only can either reflect or negate 188 abilities in the game, it also reflects all abilities during its being up so you can be focused by 5 champions, press w and there is a decent chance you reflect half of their abilities
Yes it's 188 I watched said video, some are just negated to no effect, some negated partially but it is that much, some you would be even surprised work, like senna ult or moredekaiser ult (you still get transported but you don't lose stats)
That's what feels like playing dota. Everything is so broken, but usually items are the answer to everything. Blade mail (item) returns all damage for 5.5 seconds (doesnt block it though) nyx (hero) spiked carapace (ability): 2 seconds duration, 8 seconds cooldown -> blocks and returns damage while also stunning the enemy for 1.6 seconds
WW seems to be listening in to you, Zwag. At 8:48 Warwick /all chatted "i did" without context, so it seems likely he did it in response to what you said, given the timing. 🐍 I wonder how her passive interacts with other execute effects, like Elder Dragon buff and The Collector...
zwag tends to invite followers into custom games when it comes to new champs because usually new champs will end up getting selected by other players or outright banned.
Ok for those who are confused and didn't read the patch, her W can reflect everything than Yasuo's windwal can block, and spell she can't reflect the shield makes her ake no damage from the spell that just hit her 👍
Change My Mind: Mel's W is just a copy of Nayru's Love, Princess Zelda's reflect ability in Super Smash. Invert the color and it looks identical in both visual and function. Day 151 of asking Zwag to play full move speed Yorick, because no one ever seen a 'Rick run so fast.
The big thing i notice with this vs a heavy cdr build, is that W is such a long cd that it's never up. 20:52 it would be really funny if WW ult was coded as a projectile and you could send him flying back at his team.
A note about the W is that it not only reflects and and all projectiles that hit you while its up, but it also negates all damage while its up regardless of type...crazy
Oh yeah they are nerfing her into the ground before full release. Good god. Can't wait for full release to get maybe a quarter of this and then 3 months of inching her up to be a playable champing that can almost touch the B-tier of champion.
For the record her reflect wasn’t making Smolder W go faster, Smolder W is just that fast. But it feels faster when you reflect it bc you don’t have to wait for the cast animation like Smolder does. 5:42
Mel's reflect reminds me of nemesis' waaaaaaay back when she just released in smite. Long story short, Nemesis reflected ALL THE DAMAGE you dealt, while also healing her for a % of said damage. Say a Lux fully comboed you in less than a second, Nemesis reflected all her combo back at her. Anyway, the fix was making it so she got a fixed amount of shielding, and said shield would reflect/heal, whatever damage after the shield broke, she would receive.
one thing we have to keep in mind here: 1. Mel seems to be a hard counter vs smolder 2. it's a Master+ player vs a random 3. their whole team only built dmg and noone had tanky items. so Mel getting gigafed is not just because of her kit. but I still admit that she is propably the first mage, that feels like a bruiser when fed and not like an ADC when fed. but I think the game would have looked exactly the same, if he just played Xerath or Lux
Yeah, PBE games are done with viewers on his stream. They're listening to him and often reply or ask questions in chat. Similar things happened in the other Mel game, including Zwag saying "these ppl are helping me create content, I'm going to overstay till I die" when the correct move was recalling and buying. They're just having fun.
Might sound crazy... But I have this feeling that one of her best roles might not be Mid or Top, but instead she might stomp botlane and not as support, but as an APC given her execute and reflect making her extra safe against poke AND engage.
That reflect is too op...any new fight you basically can't do any burst combo against Mel otherwise you'll get hit just as hard. She demolishes anything with burst damage/squishy. I'm curious how reflect works on karthus ult. Does it reflect it only to him or to all his team?
Zwag, can you try mel jungle? even tho she has no gank setup i think she'd have a really fast clear due to her execute, plus grubs/herald/baron/dragons would die faster bc of the execute too
Lol WW was watching/listening to your livestream while playing 😂 he answered your question if he died before ult in chat. He knows where everyone is from your livestream.
I can already see riot making the Ult the only way to execute. Like, an execute with all abilities or even AA without any need of scaling (like smolder)?
If she doesn't get nerfed before release point and click assassins like Talon or Naafiri (kind of) will be mandatory because she will snowball out of control every game, her damage is crazy throughout all the stages of the game and her Q where most of the damage gets applied from is so easy to land
the only mel build left is tank mel: grasp, heartsteel, fimbulwinter, frozen heart, the whole shebang. Because honestly I think she has enough damage as it is and I think weaving her autos is even better for her damage.....
I thought she was gonna be a support too. The whole show she was using shields to protect and dispelling dark magic. Then there was the fight against Ambessa where she literally supported Caitlyn to defeat her. I just don't know how the character from Arcane became this. Both are cool, just not the same.
Her abilities are fine, I would say remove either the 1 second invincibility or MS from the W, but take out the execute. For Smolder its fine cuz he has to stack to get to that point but for Mel to have it at the beginning and throughout the game makes her snowball too easy to get
She just shouldn't have any execute. Her ult and passive damage already are executing enemies. Come on Riot, we know you can come up with a useful passive that doesn't feel broken, we believe in you
She's not going to have anything nerfed conceptually with her kit. The nerf is going to come to her dmg. She's going to be useless in terms of carrying come next patch. I expect her to be exclusively a sup.
I don't think she was made to be a support in any way. Almost her entire kit is damage with no utility. Her only CC is her E and maybe W if she reflects a projectile with CC. And she would KS a lot with her passive execute.
The funniest part about reflecting smolder's ult is that his mom is coming back at him xD
Mommy no!
Lmao
Lucky him
The reflect has to be the most fun ever. It's better to see a sylas steal an ult to only have it sent back at him.
Whooping his ass for being a bad child
If you pay attention to the R in the HUD bar, you’ll be able to see that it turns golden when an enemy has enough stacks applied to be killed. In case you didn’t know!
thanks for the info ^^
Day 2 asking for Crit Mel
Dang, as if they could remove any more skill expression from the character. R button goes brrrrr. Her Q is too long range, W is way too good, passive is way too strong, E is...well it probably does too much damage? And her R is just a free kill. Like wtf is going on Riot.
@@ZerglingOne1
The problem is that she does way too much damage for how her passive works. They could also rework it so that her stacks decrease MR instead.
It could probably work like Kalista spears where you play for stacks before using ult to do damage. The skill expression would be her ability to both hit and avoid enemies since she’d be playing like a wet noodle until she ramps up.
Rylais
10:03 lmao smolder saying pls no. Was legit me my last game. Mel top and I knew I was screwed from the start lol.
The Smolder disrespect was maximum this game.
This champ is also good for stealing dragon. The execute works there too at around 500 hp. You basically force the enemy team to require a smite or it will auto go to Mel.
the execute on drag/baron caps at 500?
@@jacoblehrer4198no , u can even ult it
Yep, mels reflect not only can either reflect or negate 188 abilities in the game, it also reflects all abilities during its being up so you can be focused by 5 champions, press w and there is a decent chance you reflect half of their abilities
Maybe I'll sound kinda dumb, but 188 abilities fr?
@@emilleromo5715130+ different champions with 4-5 different abilities each. 188 is nothing in comparison.
@@emilleromo5715 Vandiril made a video covering all of the champion projectile interactions, 188 to be precise
Yes it's 188 I watched said video, some are just negated to no effect, some negated partially but it is that much, some you would be even surprised work, like senna ult or moredekaiser ult (you still get transported but you don't lose stats)
@@NatalisEthune holy, thats a big quantity of abilities to deny or reflect, its crazy
7:14 u did in fact reflect 2 spells. As long as ur ability is active it reflects every projectile
Hehe I'm just picturing taking out Jhin with his own 4th shot.
including lux R?
13:05 Smolder's mom killing his own son 💀
Very sad moment((
The only explanation I see is that Smolder’s mom just flew by and used breath and Mel just reflected the breath
You can see that the mom’s shadow is not reflected
it wasn´t just killing, it was slaughter :D The reflecting abilities is really fun part, but yeah. she is really unreal so will be some tunning.
29:05 Bro killed everything so fast that it didn't leave room for anyone to do damage, not even his teammates
28:00 and onwards, no matter how fed you are no champ should be able to do that on their own pretty much, this is a travesty
I think your timestamp is 10 minutes later :/ his damage before even 18min is illegal
It wasn't on his own. Blitzcrank helped 😏
That's what feels like playing dota. Everything is so broken, but usually items are the answer to everything.
Blade mail (item) returns all damage for 5.5 seconds (doesnt block it though)
nyx (hero) spiked carapace (ability): 2 seconds duration, 8 seconds cooldown -> blocks and returns damage while also stunning the enemy for 1.6 seconds
WW seems to be listening in to you, Zwag. At 8:48 Warwick /all chatted "i did" without context, so it seems likely he did it in response to what you said, given the timing. 🐍
I wonder how her passive interacts with other execute effects, like Elder Dragon buff and The Collector...
It's prolly an easter egg
hes playing with viewers, on pbe to get matches
zwag tends to invite followers into custom games when it comes to new champs because usually new champs will end up getting selected by other players or outright banned.
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!
Win Streak: 1
Him wanting the objective so bad for feats of strength and then not getting the upgraded boots after he gets it is such a zwag thing to do...
A trully mattman moment fr fr
Dear God he really did not need sorcs topping this off.
Ok for those who are confused and didn't read the patch, her W can reflect everything than Yasuo's windwal can block, and spell she can't reflect the shield makes her ake no damage from the spell that just hit her 👍
Change My Mind: Mel's W is just a copy of Nayru's Love, Princess Zelda's reflect ability in Super Smash. Invert the color and it looks identical in both visual and function.
Day 151 of asking Zwag to play full move speed Yorick, because no one ever seen a 'Rick run so fast.
Haha I thought of this too the first time I saw it
I imagined the reflect from Samus NGL
The big thing i notice with this vs a heavy cdr build, is that W is such a long cd that it's never up.
20:52 it would be really funny if WW ult was coded as a projectile and you could send him flying back at his team.
8:49 Warwick was definitely watching the stream lol
Bruh its custom game, He tell him to pick something useless like smolder and int
@jirkauchytil2301 Bro thinks he has it all figured out 😭😭
Zwag: "I'm uh little crazy fed now"
Me: UHHH LITTLE?
day 7 of asking for ap APhelios!
Dope pfp
A note about the W is that it not only reflects and and all projectiles that hit you while its up, but it also negates all damage while its up regardless of type...crazy
Lore (series) accurate Mel.
Barely seeing her using her powers in the show, but damn they are strong!
10:00 my god that smolder going "pls no" in chat instantly was so fucking funny
right lmao
Ok so i heard the part where you said on-hit Mel... did that include a flicker blade? Because that sounds terrible but hilarious with reflect.
Oh yeah they are nerfing her into the ground before full release. Good god. Can't wait for full release to get maybe a quarter of this and then 3 months of inching her up to be a playable champing that can almost touch the B-tier of champion.
28:06 that blitz should just call it a day 😅😅
Who would have believed that Smolder was actually just Mel at home.
25:35 I laughed so hard when Malphite took the reflected Kaisa W like "ey, wtf" :D
22:50 You weren’t crazy Zwag. You DID block the Malphite’s Ult damage. 😂🎉
15:24 best part of the video
Even if I don't enjoy playing the game itself, watching these videos are always the best.
For the record her reflect wasn’t making Smolder W go faster, Smolder W is just that fast. But it feels faster when you reflect it bc you don’t have to wait for the cast animation like Smolder does. 5:42
That was a game man, great one!
Was finishing watching your first Mel video and the notif for this vid popped up
Would you reflect a jinx rocket since it explodes when close or renata ult
Do one as Mel Jungle, since her execute also works on dragons and grubs 😂😂😂
11:40 - Zwag really said "Your cooldown during their respawn time."
What music is playong in the backround on 2:38
Zwag Xerath sadly lost four cannons
I want to see 10 mels in One-for-All just reflecting a single E back and forth between all 10 of them, amplifying the damage each reflect.
Fun fact: people told Beethoven he could not be a musician because he was deaf. He didn’t listen though.
AchhTuAllyyy BeeThoven BeCame DeaF aFter hE wAs a MuScian
@@jamaljenkins8968 Boooooooo Booooooooooo
Took me 10 minutes to realize this was in the zwagmo video, I'll still watch it
The blitz interaction is hilarious
Alright Swag, now you need to do a long video called: playing Mel on every lanes
Mel's reflect reminds me of nemesis' waaaaaaay back when she just released in smite.
Long story short, Nemesis reflected ALL THE DAMAGE you dealt, while also healing her for a % of said damage. Say a Lux fully comboed you in less than a second, Nemesis reflected all her combo back at her.
Anyway, the fix was making it so she got a fixed amount of shielding, and said shield would reflect/heal, whatever damage after the shield broke, she would receive.
do you get early access to stuff in the game? i always wondered.
one thing we have to keep in mind here:
1. Mel seems to be a hard counter vs smolder
2. it's a Master+ player vs a random
3. their whole team only built dmg and noone had tanky items.
so Mel getting gigafed is not just because of her kit. but I still admit that she is propably the first mage, that feels like a bruiser when fed and not like an ADC when fed. but I think the game would have looked exactly the same, if he just played Xerath or Lux
the projectiles she fires feel way faster because they have no animation, once something touches her it instantly comes back.
The Smolder begging for his life at 10:02 😭😭
Do I hear ROCK N STONE dance of Dreadnoughts at 22:55 ? ROCK N STONE brothers
5:13 I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more skillful Ult outplay 💀
21:55
Blitzcrank: Wait. That's illegal!
Is there enogh CDR to have 5 stacked up Mels for all for 1 mode to have reflect up 24/7?
Holy FUCKING Hell!!! That should be illegal! I think you were committing some war crimes there at the end! LMAO
8:59 did warwick just answered zwag? 😭😭😭
Yeah, PBE games are done with viewers on his stream. They're listening to him and often reply or ask questions in chat. Similar things happened in the other Mel game, including Zwag saying "these ppl are helping me create content, I'm going to overstay till I die" when the correct move was recalling and buying.
They're just having fun.
she seems insane at last hitting early with that execute passive
Smolder dancing with you for intro was so fckn adorable LMAO
we’ve officially surpassed 200 years
16:29 that sounded so hilariously painful lol.
This blitz reflekt looks amazing , i cant stop laughing for rest video 😂😂
So would Malphite, Warwick, and Jarvin ults be able to be reflected since they themselves become the projectile?
Smolder ult: that's my boy, no my boy, Mother help
"Sta-ha-ha-ha-hop, he's already dead!"
what about Rhylai's to slow with Q and then hit Max Range E Root/Burn
smolder at 10:00 "pls no" 😂
Might sound crazy... But I have this feeling that one of her best roles might not be Mid or Top, but instead she might stomp botlane and not as support, but as an APC given her execute and reflect making her extra safe against poke AND engage.
Mel is really brought "Taste your own bullshit" to a whole new fking level
gj rito, a champion that efectively makes your hp 95% of what you have FROM LEVEL 1
Rwflect worki on naut q and blitz?
Mel would dominate URF, whit the reflect spam
Could you do attack speed with her?
Warwick thought he was fed, then he went to fight you just to realize
That reflect is too op...any new fight you basically can't do any burst combo against Mel otherwise you'll get hit just as hard. She demolishes anything with burst damage/squishy. I'm curious how reflect works on karthus ult. Does it reflect it only to him or to all his team?
Zwag, can you try mel jungle? even tho she has no gank setup i think she'd have a really fast clear due to her execute, plus grubs/herald/baron/dragons would die faster bc of the execute too
Lol WW was watching/listening to your livestream while playing 😂 he answered your question if he died before ult in chat. He knows where everyone is from your livestream.
I need to see a max range nida spear reflected to see if the damage keeps increasing lol
I can already see riot making the Ult the only way to execute. Like, an execute with all abilities or even AA without any need of scaling (like smolder)?
Something to consider is that Mal is the only one building MR on your opponent's team.
if they made it so the execute only worked on autos and Ult, i think that would help balance her damage?
If she doesn't get nerfed before release point and click assassins like Talon or Naafiri (kind of) will be mandatory because she will snowball out of control every game, her damage is crazy throughout all the stages of the game and her Q where most of the damage gets applied from is so easy to land
The most ridiculous champ ever. More of these please
playing her as a crd tank might be pretty good too. make her near unkillable while stacking your execute on the enemies until they die
i think sylas might be her hardest counter he wants to be next to you so reflecting the grab doesnt do anything and he doesnt have projectiles
the only mel build left is tank mel: grasp, heartsteel, fimbulwinter, frozen heart, the whole shebang. Because honestly I think she has enough damage as it is and I think weaving her autos is even better for her damage.....
I thought she was gonna be a support too. The whole show she was using shields to protect and dispelling dark magic. Then there was the fight against Ambessa where she literally supported Caitlyn to defeat her. I just don't know how the character from Arcane became this. Both are cool, just not the same.
This champ really looks like an admin tool. There is no way they designed this and were proud of it all the way down.
her w is literally zelda b in ultimate lmao
I feel like Cosmic Drive and Phase Rush would be good on her honestly. Haste and MS seem really nice on Mel
Would her passive apply crit
"I guess you really only need 2 damage items to start one shotting ppl." Meanwhile, has 25 stack mejais, shadowflame, and ludens.
Her abilities are fine, I would say remove either the 1 second invincibility or MS from the W, but take out the execute. For Smolder its fine cuz he has to stack to get to that point but for Mel to have it at the beginning and throughout the game makes her snowball too easy to get
She just shouldn't have any execute. Her ult and passive damage already are executing enemies. Come on Riot, we know you can come up with a useful passive that doesn't feel broken, we believe in you
she attacks ,she protects , but also , she deflects
Well deserved for playing Smolder
She's the epitome of "stop hitting yourself, bro!"
There are no max stacks on her passive :)
omg even if Smolder didn't take damage from his mom turning around and blasting him I feel like it would still be a counter.
Can you put the description of the starter items again I don’t have this game so I read the items
She's not going to have anything nerfed conceptually with her kit. The nerf is going to come to her dmg. She's going to be useless in terms of carrying come next patch. I expect her to be exclusively a sup.
I don't think she was made to be a support in any way. Almost her entire kit is damage with no utility. Her only CC is her E and maybe W if she reflects a projectile with CC. And she would KS a lot with her passive execute.
A supp that has execute on kills? Doesnt sound like a nice supp champ to me lol
Keep wishing support boi
@@eliascarlsson2624 So Pyke isn't a support?
@@keggerousHis execute is on ult and its share the gold when he got kill...its fkin different
Zwag did you know you could reflect blitzcrank hook and pykes stun?
Seeing this champion in action made me so happy I quit when I did. They clearly have stopped caring about the quality of this game