still one of the best RTS i've played, could do great with some rework solely focusing on balance, but THC studios dont really care about DW1 anymore, not sure if they even exist sadly
Posting on this video randomly; but yo, just picked up DoW 1 and 2 on sale with the DLCs and I'm loving that I found your channel Sir. Such good content. You have great game knowledge yet still see new things and mention what you don't know while you keep up great camera movement and commentary. Awesome. Subbed both your channels. will like every vid. Also, not to make this too long, but I have a suggestion ( uh oh ) . Really liked the tribute video to veteran compeador and thought, maybe you could do a tribute to each faction? Like a big video on the best games for each faction. from most solid to most unique play. Anyways, just glad you are out here.
Play very defensively - lp2, mines, a turret or two in good positions may be crucial. Also, very good and careful execution with the army, can give Dark Eldar a hard time. But of course this is not possible on all the maps, especially the open ones, such as Outer Reaches, Quest's Triumph etc.
SM turret is by far not "the worst turret in the game" That goes to Sisters' turrets. SM, Chaos and Eldar do the same damage vs infantry, only IG is better and Necrons is worse. SM, Chaos and Eldar do the best against vehicles (with Eldar slightly better against veh. high) and then Necrons with IG worst. Only vs buildings is SM worst, otherwise Sisters lose at everything else. Chaos and Necron have Highest hit points at 1125, then IG with 25 less, then SM and Sisters at 900 and Eldar at 790. So, not the best but definitely not the worst. Waaagh! banners do not compare unless they are upgraded once and then still pretty shabby against the others, but they are not really turrets.
I would count banners as turrets. Area denial. And yeah the damage sucks but you always but it near another turret. Necron turrets seem to be the best in testing. Sob turrets aren't that bad but there not good.
In the first game couldn't SM have made Tempests? They're only a little bit more expensive but have disruption and AV and pass over terrain, seems like a much better deal
Nice games! What does rr exactly stand for? It’s Russian right? Btw, you accidentally wrote the players names and their races in different order ;) Thanks for the commentary :) good work
this is the most broken mu in game, ive only lost it once in my life as a de around 3 am after like 5 hours of non stop dow. i remember beating rafik like 10:0 in this mu and each and every game i was playing with one hand while practising guitar scales with the other lol
if you can micro with them i guess you can add snipers in all the match ups, whenever economy allows, but you have to make sure you do not lose the squads, as they are expensive... They can pay off big time if positioned and controlled well, but may get caught randomly by infantry/vehicles that can jump
That doesn't really work against heavy infantry and light infantry with more troops than normal. After T2, it's better to keep scouts for recon than assault. Lost too many games against AI that way. Their firing rate is to blame cause though they can kill light infantry easily, heavy infantry could take two to three shots to kill. That tactic could work if you constrict your opponent to T1 while you reach T3. 4-6 squads of scouts with sniper rifle couldn't deal with a t2 army. They get team wiped
Astro de is not slightly OP then sm. They much stronger like Mixa showed in first game. If de plays smart he always got better eco and simply overmassed.
Только настоящие мужики играют за космодесантов против тёмных эльдар зная что у них шансов мало на победу но все же испытывают себя, не казуальщики,. поэтому болею только за космодесант.
I don't get the disdain for turrets. They're important, as you can see by the first game where SM just lets DE walk all over him. Also, assault marines where? Too many jetbikes from DE trying to cheese a win, preventing timely T2. Corrosion and Talos is DE's T2 offensive anti-vehicle for Dark Foundry route, not scourges or raiders. As for the second game, way too much fair play by the DE. The key to making the hall of blood route work is Screams of the Damned, and in tier 2, two raiders to put the warriors in. Warriors are too frail and short ranged to have slugging matches, their enemies should be broken and slowed by torture amp.
Well, I do agree with Astro that mines would have been better than the turrets in the 1st and 3rd games. Any turret without lp2 support will go down fairly quickly to Hellions who have better armour vs turrets than other jump trumps. Also RJBs take much more damage from mines than turrets. 2-3 mine blasts will destroy any RJBs in the AoE.
@@Azoth86730 Dark Eldar excels in early game. In these game modes the player with the strongest late game army wins, so obviously Dark Eldar sucks there.
Playing as a new one Space Marine vs Dark Eldar is stupid as f. If yuo don`t play perfectly it is lost game from start, and the only thing enemy needs to do is to jump in and autoreinforce. I have enough of this and will kick every dark eldar player from my 1vs1. I like to play DC multiplayer, but you need hours to find a few games. No suprise this game is almost dead, beside a few elite ones 1vs1 and heresy of long team games. I love mechanics of DOW, but there is no way to play it. Probably it`s lore thing coz, Dark Eldar are the fkers no one wants to play with.
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still one of the best RTS i've played, could do great with some rework solely focusing on balance, but THC studios dont really care about DW1 anymore, not sure if they even exist sadly
Posting on this video randomly; but yo, just picked up DoW 1 and 2 on sale with the DLCs and I'm loving that I found your channel Sir. Such good content. You have great game knowledge yet still see new things and mention what you don't know while you keep up great camera movement and commentary. Awesome. Subbed both your channels. will like every vid. Also, not to make this too long, but I have a suggestion ( uh oh ) . Really liked the tribute video to veteran compeador and thought, maybe you could do a tribute to each faction? Like a big video on the best games for each faction. from most solid to most unique play. Anyways, just glad you are out here.
'Slightly in Dark Eldar favor'? I just feel like the Hellions are too hard to counter while the Dark Eldars gets NO pressure while building Hellions.
Maybe not slightly, if we think about early game. But overall the match up can be okay if the SM plays perfectly.
WH40Kveteran before you say perfect, can you describe what the SM player should do in this match up? I'm trying to learn, but it's very frustrating.
Play very defensively - lp2, mines, a turret or two in good positions may be crucial. Also, very good and careful execution with the army, can give Dark Eldar a hard time. But of course this is not possible on all the maps, especially the open ones, such as Outer Reaches, Quest's Triumph etc.
I agree. Defense works well against de unless they have commanders.
Hellions are very expensive though and are only infantry high. They cost similar to reinforce as assault terminators.
Dark eldar did well in all matches. He needed to make a talos in the 2nd game. They kill dreadnoughts easily. He should also fix economy when possible
SM turret is by far not "the worst turret in the game" That goes to Sisters' turrets. SM, Chaos and Eldar do the same damage vs infantry, only IG is better and Necrons is worse. SM, Chaos and Eldar do the best against vehicles (with Eldar slightly better against veh. high) and then Necrons with IG worst. Only vs buildings is SM worst, otherwise Sisters lose at everything else. Chaos and Necron have Highest hit points at 1125, then IG with 25 less, then SM and Sisters at 900 and Eldar at 790. So, not the best but definitely not the worst. Waaagh! banners do not compare unless they are upgraded once and then still pretty shabby against the others, but they are not really turrets.
I would count banners as turrets. Area denial. And yeah the damage sucks but you always but it near another turret. Necron turrets seem to be the best in testing. Sob turrets aren't that bad but there not good.
In the first game couldn't SM have made Tempests? They're only a little bit more expensive but have disruption and AV and pass over terrain, seems like a much better deal
That could work
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arent heavy bolters really good against dark eldar with warriors in the early game?
1 Seife They are super good. They outrange scoures and completelly rek them.
Sorta. They have similar damage and range but sm have more health so they always win
Nice games! What does rr exactly stand for? It’s Russian right? Btw, you accidentally wrote the players names and their races in different order ;)
Thanks for the commentary :) good work
firefoXxX6969, it means gg
23:00 Well I though that but one day a necron player came to and rushed me with their lrod !
41:22 HE HIT 3 HP THAT LUCKY PIECE OF SHIT
this is the most broken mu in game, ive only lost it once in my life as a de around 3 am after like 5 hours of non stop dow. i remember beating rafik like 10:0 in this mu and each and every game i was playing with one hand while practising guitar scales with the other lol
i can clarify that you are not bragging
I wonder how viable is massing snipers as SM and when it would be good to do that because unlike eldar snipers, scouts snipers actually do kill stuff
if you can micro with them i guess you can add snipers in all the match ups, whenever economy allows, but you have to make sure you do not lose the squads, as they are expensive... They can pay off big time if positioned and controlled well, but may get caught randomly by infantry/vehicles that can jump
@@WH40Kveteran agreed
That doesn't really work against heavy infantry and light infantry with more troops than normal.
After T2, it's better to keep scouts for recon than assault. Lost too many games against AI that way. Their firing rate is to blame cause though they can kill light infantry easily, heavy infantry could take two to three shots to kill.
That tactic could work if you constrict your opponent to T1 while you reach T3. 4-6 squads of scouts with sniper rifle couldn't deal with a t2 army. They get team wiped
Are these players still active? I love your commenting btw
mixalich plays from time to time, haven't seen pride in quite a while tho (since 2017)
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Hello, how did you get this resolution?
camera hight you mean? google camera mod!
How do u get space marines online
pls buy the dow 1 franchise in steam or use race unlocker, google it!
Astro de is not slightly OP then sm. They much stronger like Mixa showed in first game. If de plays smart he always got better eco and simply overmassed.
xD
WH40Kveteran, why are u laughing? I wasn't correct in my statement above?
Только настоящие мужики играют за космодесантов против тёмных эльдар зная что у них шансов мало на победу но все же испытывают себя, не казуальщики,. поэтому болею только за космодесант.
Тем более, когда космодесант основная раса Михалыча, и он прекрасно знает их слабые стороны. Тоже болел за космарей.
I don't get the disdain for turrets. They're important, as you can see by the first game where SM just lets DE walk all over him. Also, assault marines where? Too many jetbikes from DE trying to cheese a win, preventing timely T2. Corrosion and Talos is DE's T2 offensive anti-vehicle for Dark Foundry route, not scourges or raiders.
As for the second game, way too much fair play by the DE. The key to making the hall of blood route work is Screams of the Damned, and in tier 2, two raiders to put the warriors in. Warriors are too frail and short ranged to have slugging matches, their enemies should be broken and slowed by torture amp.
Well, I do agree with Astro that mines would have been better than the turrets in the 1st and 3rd games. Any turret without lp2 support will go down fairly quickly to Hellions who have better armour vs turrets than other jump trumps. Also RJBs take much more damage from mines than turrets. 2-3 mine blasts will destroy any RJBs in the AoE.
Dark Eldar are too overpowered in this game.
OP? Play a 3v3-4v4 game or FFA/TFFA with DE. They literally suck.
Agzhshahahahahahahahagag dark eldar is the worst
maybe just vs SM in a 1v1
@@Azoth86730 Dark Eldar excels in early game. In these game modes the player with the strongest late game army wins, so obviously Dark Eldar sucks there.
Just play defence with loots of marines squads, dont reinforce groups:) Then u can kite around.
PRIDE sits around, waiting, how noob. Gotta play the counter, thats why he loses map control.
Playing as a new one Space Marine vs Dark Eldar is stupid as f. If yuo don`t play perfectly it is lost game from start, and the only thing enemy needs to do is to jump in and autoreinforce. I have enough of this and will kick every dark eldar player from my 1vs1.
I like to play DC multiplayer, but you need hours to find a few games.
No suprise this game is almost dead, beside a few elite ones 1vs1 and heresy of long team games. I love mechanics of DOW, but there is no way to play it.
Probably it`s lore thing coz, Dark Eldar are the fkers no one wants to play with.