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Sumi Otoshi Corner Drop Throw
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- Sumi Otoshi (Corner Drop Throw) is one of the fundamental throwing techniques in Kodokan Judo and is used in sambo and other grappling sports as well. This video analyzes the basic application of Sumi Otoshi as well as other variations. Coaching by Steve Scott with Nike Briney.
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sumi otoshi, uki otoshi and tai otoshi were throws based on the same principle but with different throwing directions and tori's body positioning, and they all needed perfect timing. Tai otoshi parted ways when people started using the leg as a blocking device (which lowered the difficulty of the throw by allowing tori to compensate any lack of proper kuzushi and timing with the blocking leg) to the extent that some people think it is ashi-waza and not te-waza. But the greatest tai otoshi specialists do it almost like sumi/uki otoshi, mostly based on timing... the leg becomes almost an unnecessary device. Some of your variations were, indeed, tai-otoshi. I did like your explanation, but I didn't like the way your uke falls so easily. If he had provided just a little more resistance the throws would look awesome. But this is a nice video about a throw people don't give attention nowadays.
Thanks for your thoughtful comments. I whole-heartedly agree. I think my uke was being nice to his old coach-maybe too nice. Again, thanks for your comments!
Loudenvier Its wrong what you are saying. This whole "timing-kuzushi-talk" is only used by traditionalists, who have no idea about biomechanics and think Mifune was some kind of god. Do you know how long it takes the brain to notice a pulling action and initiate a proper reaction?
Timing is a big factor, but its mostly about the openings in grip fighting you have to use.
And Te-waza, ashi-waza, koshi-waza etc are very unlucky names for categories. The most effective standing seoi-nages we are seeing are a mix of te-, koshi- and sutemi-waza for example.
Stop thinking of the traditional ways as some religious unfailable truth. Judo developed strongly since Kanos and Mifunes time. Sumi otoshi is only good as counter in some situations. Some of the variations he is showing here are actually pretty good, but as long as nothing blocks ukes leg, it will only work on weaker opponents.
I´ll add this technique to my arsenal, is not very popular these days but I find it nice for us heavy players who doesn´t want to be in very bad position for counters...
far better than the way i was initally showen if not better easier to understand. Though the way i was shown uke flys alot more . The most tricky was timing evan with a willing uke your variation seems to have more range eaiser to pull off i wil give it ago on monday night thank you for shareing!!!epic
Glad you like it and adapt it to work for you on Monday when you practice it. Your comment on having more range hits the mark. We use this movement quite a bit in working on other throwing techniques. Thanks for your comment and please tell others about our channel.
Your video's are awesome and very informative thank you!
Thank you for your comment and I am pleased you like our videos. Please keep watching and tell others about our channel.
I will sir!
Hi sensei, I'm late once more to comment but I want to say good job with this video. With this video uploaded, I predict there will be no more questions among individuals that seek to understand these kinds of throws(Uki Otoshi and Sumi Otoshi) and how they apply rather than stay mysterious to practicality while one Judo student practices this throw and never use it beyond Kata. I hate how one art such as Judo have gone as far as to keep to themselves and that they never explore deeper into their art therefore never evolving and producing better knowledge. BJJ does otherwise which is good however, their specialty is on the ground. Honestly, I strongly feel that no matter what martial art you practice even the non-grappling based ones, each and every martial art in the world should always, always look to evolve if it wishes to exist throughout human history. Not only does one art need to invent more techniques but it also needs to reflect on its fundamentals, philosophies and principles to truly apply it in realistic situations whether the art is based on self-defense, sport, aesthetic or cultural purposes. I'm saying this to give you an idea and that you might respectfully encourage other martial arts to do the same by chance and if you wish. I know Jiu-jitsu itself does the same but I'm sure other martial arts can benefit from this mentality. Once again I thank you for delivering my major request sensei.
Once thing more to add is that I think it's a shame most martial arts never try to upload and share videos to the public like you. Even if they do, their number of videos are quite limited while the channel itself lacks commitment and that I find their instructions or teachings quite mediocre or lackluster that one has no proper way to apply the techniques shown in the videos therefore it's hard for one to appreciate the art altogether. Also not everyone has access to the martial art of their choosing and that they may lack the funds for membership so they turn to UA-cam instead.
Thank,for explain ukiotoshi..some,,of.my..favorite.tecnic
Thank you Albert.
I love this technique 😍
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thank you
Our pleasure and thank you for watching. Please tell others about our channel.
Parabéns Sensei! Sou de Belém Brasil
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The side version look`s better and safer. It´s a trown more unlike to the tori rolls over, and finish bottom of uke, right ?
Excellent
Thank you Brian.
Do you see Uchi Mata Sukashi as a form of Sumi Otoshi, too, Steve Sensei?
Great question! Thanks for asking it and it is apparent that you have a good eye for these skills! To answer simply, I would say yes. Sumi Otoshi is one of those "core" skills that stand alone as a separate throw, yet are present in other throwing techniques as well. In actual application, Uchi Mata Sukashi is an avoidance movement that transitions into a strong hand action to finish the throw. This is the case with Sumi Otoshi also, so it might be plausible to say that Uchi Mata Sukashi is actually Sumi Otoshi in action in one of its most practical senses. Other may have a different opinion, but many techniques "flow" or transition smoothly into another when actually applied in a functional and practical way. Thanks for the great question and please tell others about our channel.
loving your videos. They are helping me a lot thanks. is there any chance of a video explaining the difference between IF Judo and freestyle judo please. including the moves now banned by ijf please
I picked up a penalty in random by going for the gi pants to throw
Glad you like our videos. Please tell others about us. We have some videos on our channel explaining the Freestyle Judo Rules, volume 1 and volume 2 as well as a video on the freestyle judo rules for newaza. We also have a video titled Introduction to Freestyle Judo. Check these videos out to get a good idea of how the freestyle judo rules differ from IJF.
Unfortunately, your experience seems to be a common one with the IJF rules. We're always looking for more people to get involved in our AAU freestyle judo program.