He really would be a great teacher :) So many wrote under his video about political institutions and voting system they understand it better as in school.
Funny, that thought occurred to me as well. Unfortunately my ID shows my home address, which is a few hundred kilometres from where I live during the week, for work, so that would make life complicated...
Haha, that last sentence... 😂 Of course there are fixed phrases for those occasions. The most popular one translates to "I know where your house lives". Second and third place are "I know where your bed sleeps" and "I know where your fridge cools". Ich weiß, wo dein Haus wohnt, wo dein Bett schläft, und wo dein Kühlschrank kühlt! 😂
I well remember the border from Austria to Germany in 1990 were a big sign said that entrance to Germany will be only possible with a passport or a maximum 3 month overdue health insurrance card.
2:10 Schengen actually does abolish the pssport because you can travel only with your ID. You don't need a _passport_ when travelling in Schengen. You only need your ID
Ich sehe mir deine Videos jetzt seit etwa 5 Jahren an und finde deine Perspektive auf alles was Deutschland betrifft immer sehr interessant. Ich finde immernoch dass du eine gewisse Ähnlichkeit mit "Eddi" von der A Capella-Gruppe Wise Guys hast. Schade dass die Jungs mittlerweile nicht mehr Aktiv sind.
Don’t get me started … pet peeve alarm! If you’ve got a passport (different topic) it will proof your identity, but as proof of address you often need two invoices with your name on them. We once had to change our phone and electricity bill / contracts so I could join my husbands UK bank account (4 weeks later … when the next invoices finally arrived..). The ridiculousness is that neither your electricity supplier nor your phone supplier check if you actually live at that address (and the bank simply assumes that if you manage to get hold of the invoice you must live there). Identify theft is a real issue in the UK, so much so, that you can buy stamps that block out your address from basic letters you receive before you bin them , just in case someone might use the letters or your name and address to commit fraud (side note: there is also no name on the doorbell or letterbox of British houses, which also means the post man will deliver any letter to your address, despite the name on the letter not matching that of the houses residents …. which in Germany would mean that it wouldn’t / shouldn’t be delivered as it’s not intended for you… Postgeheimnis and all…) It makes no sense whatsoever. I’d understand the British issue with ID cards if they generally weren’t required to proof their identity or address, but they are required to do so just the same as in Germany (bank, contracts , mortgages, insurances, drivers licence etc) so by being against ID cards they are essentially only insisting on doing this in the most ridiculous way possible (whilst there is no Melderegister there is a voters register, so if you want to vote, at least the council will also know where you live anyway… and the DVLA if you’ve got a drivers license … ID card or not…) The only upside ( if you are of my political inclination) is that it is (was) much harder to detect “illegal” immigrants. However those against ID cards are often also those who are also keen to get rid of immigrants so that’s not their reason to oppose them either … and now that the government requires landlords and employers to check if someone is in the country legally that advantage of not having ID cards and a Melderegister is also pretty much gone … Oh and the lack of a Melderegister and ID card is also why hundreds of thousands of EU citizens are now left having to proof they have been living in the country for years via letters of their kids schools teachers ( “drops the kids off every day)” and similar nonsense... No one even asked my British husband (we moved to Germany after Brexit) this when he applied vor dual citizenship, because Melderegister stated when he had moved here. It’s an archaic, most impractical and easily abused way to deal with a situation that requires you to identify yourself just as often as in Germany…
Thats so nice that the post man would deliver a lost id. I remember losing mine yrs ago & bc i went several months without one i ended up buying a new one & then weirdly enough my original id was sent by mail a couple of months later. So i wish that type of thing existed in the us, it prob wouldve been found sooner
I once lost my ID card (when it still had the larger format), and only noticed this when I was in the train to Slovakia. Normally there are no checks at the German-Czech border, but this time the border guards (which were walking through the train between Dresden and Bad Schandau) actually controlled me, because some "suspiciously-looking" people were sitting in the same compartment. I somehow managed to convince them to let me pass (by showing my health insurance card and my Bahncard, one of which had my photo and the other one had my birth date). Later in Slovakia it turned out that I actually needed my ID or passport number to fill a form in the hotel. I phoned home and got my passport number.
Intersting! Some time ago i tried to research the "Ausweispflicht" in Germany and Austria. What i came across differed from what you researched. Your rsearch is much newer so maybe something has changed. What i found years ago was: In Germany supposedly you had to have some form of ID on you, and would be fined if you could not present any when you get asked/checked by police. In Austria you would get no fine, but the invonvenience of maybe having to accompany the police to somewhere your identity can be prooven. (i guess the later one would be the same in germany).
Nope, no fine. You are getting a fine if you are driving without a licence, but the ID is something different. Contrary to popular belief you don't have to carry it around all the time, you just have to own one, but in a lot of situations a lack of ID can be problematic, so it is easier to just have it with you. If you don't, the police will bring you wherever your ID is, and then you can show it to them.
Possibly this goes back to the occupation right. At least in West Berlin, every adult was obliged to be able to identify himself at any time (either with an identity card, a passport or a driver's license ... although I would never have recognized my father on his "rag").
In Mexico our de facto ID card is our voting credential, you can't vote without one, and if is expired or you are trying to vote in the wrong polling place. When voting, you are been asked for you ID, the staff members (who are your neighbours) check if you are enlisted and also the parties representatives and observers. Then, they give you the ballots, you choose your candidate in a sort of cabin, and then you put your vote in the ballot box and the staff return to you your ID. The thing is, that was the only official use for which it was intended. Now even the banks have some access to the National Electoral Institute (INE) database to verify your identity and biometrics. Even the tax authority, who has their own safeguards (well, their webpage and taxation systems are totally crap), revise their data with the INE database, because it is bigger and more updated. Every your go, if you want to identify yourself they will ask for your voting credential. You may ask for a credential without your address (this was implemented after the increase of kidnappings and extortions) but anybody wants (as far as I know) one, because it is useful as a proof of address.
I remember when I was a kid and lived in Germany for a few years seeing those cigarette vending machines on the street. In the early 80's they didn't have all this new technology or even really care about the health impacts of smoking. So any kid with a few marks could buy cigarettes out of those machines as long as some responsible adult didn't see you and yell at you.
When I was a kid growing up in Canada smoking was everywhere. My parents smoked in the car with me and it was normal... I guess. But I fckin smoke now. I hate it. I'm so addicted. Ugh. I feel weak saying it but God damn they are addictive.
I born at 84 and as a kid you could buy alcohol as well. My mum sent me to grocery store to buy sparkling vine for a party. Nobody asked i could buy it as a 9 year old.
In the late 90s as well. What struck me as really cool was the fact that the change (say you paid with a 5 DM coin for a 4 DM pack) was often INSIDE the cellophane wrap of the cigarette pack itself. Mind boggling :D
It is a very useful thing: I use my British passport when I go out of the EU, but coming back I can use my German ID card at the immigration desk regardless of which EU country I arrive in. Also, living near the French border it means I don't have to think about carrying a passport when I go for a bike ride...
Is it so much easier to travel outside the EU with a British passport than with a German one? Or is that just so that you don't need to have both a German passport and an ID card?
@@Seegalgalguntijak, my guess is that Andy in Germany uses the British passport because Brits don't have ID cards. Using the British passport instead of a German one saves the money for an additional German passport. However, when you enter the Schengen zone or travel within it, it is a matter of convenience to use the German ID.
@@NikolausUndRupprecht Not only Schengen, there are also countries outside the Schengen area where you can go with only the ID Card like the UK or Ireland and problably some more.
@@Seegalgalguntijak I use my Belgian passport to travel by air, or where my ID is checked and there are automatic barriers who can read my passport, but not my (Belgian) ID card. It depends a bit which line is longer, but the one with the automatic barriers is generally shorter and quicker. For countries where I need a visa or who stamp it, I prefer to use my passport, too, because I could loose my entry stamp too easily if it's on a loose scrap of paper, like when you travel to Turkey (Germans don't need a visa, Belgians do, but I could travel with just my ID and a visa).
@@barvdw when I lived in Belgium I had to have a Belgium ID card even so I possessed a German ID and Passport. Much to my surprise they changed my name back to my maiden name I had given up 20 years earlier 😁 which in turn proved to be a puzzler for police when I had to present my ID and drivers Licence (German) whilst visiting Germany
my hasuband is live in german he is from africa his identity is subsidary right now i want to come german but they said the chance are very low in embassy konen sie mir helfen what do you say?
I do always carry my id card with me, but since this year, I've gotten one of the newfangled electronic ones, so I put it into an RFID protection sleeve, so that it cannot be accessed from afar (contrary to what's widely believed, you can actually read an RFID tag over several meters with the right antenna and transceiver setup, therefore it would be relatively easy to register everyone that's passing through, say, for example, the door of a train station or something like that). I also deactivated the e-ID functionality, because while it is supposed to provide anonymous access to commercial services on the web (if they were adapting it, which they are fortunately not), the party in between the web service and you, which validates the e-ID, will know every service you registered with, as well as when/how often you log into it, so that's not anything I would consider "secure" or even "privacy preserving", as it is advertized.
So you have no problem with people seeing your face without your permission, but you have a problem if they know your name without your permission ? It's just a matter of time, to get your name from your face anyway. No need to hide your chip ;-)
@@holger_p Yeah, that's another concern of mine. Basically the total totalitarian surveillance society. I do protect myself as much as possible (i.e. not running Google software on my phones etc), but this would then make it necessary to wear one of those glasses that throw facial recognition systems out of whack, or to actually paint my face accordingly (which, in turn, could be a good conversation starter also ;))
If two or more RFID enabled cards are together in the same wallet (e.g. ID and bank card) it is no longer possible to read them from afar. They just interfere with each other.
Always recommended to carry your ID with you, even if you don't have to. Otherwise Police could put you in the back of their car and drive you home to proof your ID. Will make you your neighborhood's talking point for some days. Plus they won't bring you back to where you were checked for ID. Especially bad if your car is sitting there, one hour away by public transport.
I need help we was in love she was from Germany I am. Unable to get in touch is it possible to get details by her id details or is there any option please help if anyone
And in terms of Schengen - isn't it that you don't have to have an ID or passport while crossing the border, you just need to stick to the rules of the country you enter. If, for example, the country doesn't force you to carry a document - you don't have to?
No, as I said in the video, you must have ID or a passport with you when you cross a border. Of course, if you're then in a country that doesn't make you carry ID you can leave it in the hotel safe or something; but to cross a border you are legally required to have it.
As a german I‘m used to carry my ID card with me all the time. As I have been to the states and wanted to enter to a coffeeshop, they refused me for that having a passport with my (passport was in the hotel). I was very surprised that my ID card didn’t count for them :D
Unless the coffeeshop you wanted to enter sold alcohol, why did they refuse you entry? Happened the same to me in Chicago, I was refused to be served alcohol in a bar, even when me and my friend showed our IDs. They insisted in seeing our passports which were in the hotel. What makes it all the more amusing is that I got ID‘d in a San Francisco bar years after, and the bartender accepted my German ID. So, it depends on the people checking you, and you should‘ve been not refused service! :)
They don't have cigarette vending machines in other countries? The ID card check was only introduced some years ago anyway, before then nicotine addicted children could get at any amount of cigarettes they desired through these machines. Actually they could get at them in supermarkets as well, because while the law prohibiting sale of cigarettes and alcolhol to minors was in place, it wasn't obeyed in practice. This has all changed in recent years.
In Austria only specialized shops (Trafiken) are allowed to sell tobacco products, they need a special licence. But these shops are also allowed to put up vending machines to sell cigarettes outside their opening hours. There is an ID check similar to the German system.
@@ohauss I know Oliver, but Andrew seems to have taken it to the extreme. I see when there is an election in Germany the politicians also adopt the same "I don't think I even know how to smile" expression in election posters. This is not knocking Germany. I am partly German myself.
@@ohauss 😂 Don't give the authorities ideas! Next year I need a new ID. Now I wonder, if I will need to wear black and white striped clothes to get an official photo taken. 😉 Wait a minute! What is Andrew wearing in this video??? 🤔
Does Germany issue an ID card to everyone, who is registred in the country, like students, employees? I had been living in Belgium as a employee from EU, and there you must have a Belgium ID as a proof of identity, if you stay more than 3 months.
@@rewboss Thank you for your reply and video! It seems that non-EU will get ID issued by Germany, but EU citizens not. But how EU citizen can proof their identity using their ID of origin country, if there are several people with same Name Surname from same EU country? In most countries there is national ID number system, so when you go to police, hospital, use any public service, you present your passport where your unique ID number is written. Because there are many people with same name and surname. How it is in Germany? Maybe you can make a new video about German ID number (social security or personal number) system? As EU citizen, I won't have German ID card, but Germany will not register my personal number from my country. Is there are 5 Anna Popova from Estonia, one of them commited crime, how Germany will recognize, who is who?
Your video really interest me, I have a German identity card of a man called Wolfgang, he is a German man, can you please help provide details of this man so that I can be able to reach him cause he’s in danger, some fraud stars are draining him on his money, please let me know what to do that will enable me reach him😢
Helloweener haha, no one in Germany asks for if when buying alcohol.. if you’re over 15, you don’t get asked.. I’m in my mid thirties and was asked for ID while buying booze maybe about 2-3 in my entire life
Mein personalausweis läuft 2021 aus, mein reisepass gilt noch bis 2028. Eigentlich könnte ich auf einen neuen personalausweis verzichten und mich mit dem reisepass ausweisen. Ist nur unpraktisch, das große buch überallhin mitzunehmen. Ist es eigentlich strafbar, den personalausweis nicht zu verlängern?
Der Reisepass erfüllt NICHT des Zweck eines Personalausweises, da die Adresse dort nicht drin steht. Und da Du verpflichtet bist, einen Personalausweis zu besitzen, hat sich die Frage eigentlich geklärt. Nebenbei ist eine Verlängerung eines Personalausweises NICHT möglich, Du bekommst ein neues Dokument. Allerdings wird der Personalausweis auch anerkannt, wenn er maximal ein Jahr abgelaufen ist. Da der Personalausweis auch als Sozialversucherungsausweis fungiert (in manchen Branchen mit viel Schwarzarbeit ist es schwer zu empfehlen, einen Personalausweis mit zu führen), wäre es nicht sehr geschickt, keinen zu besitzen.
@@real_doombastic Ich hab gerade mal kurz das Gesetz zur Ausweispflicht angeguckt, da ich bisher der Meinung war, dass man nur Personalausweis oder Reisepass haben muss. Edit(ausversehen zu früh abgeschickt): Das Gesetz gibt mir recht. Ein Reisepass erfüllt auch die Bestimmungen der Ausweispflicht.
No, if you change your address, you'll have to go to the local residents' registration office to register it, and they will print a badge with your new address and affix it onto the old address on your ID card.
I'd happily pay some money to get a German ID card; even if it said "Auslander" on it, it would be useful to have an official ID I could carry around. One problem is that if you buy travel tickets with the app (and so save money) you need to have photo ID with you, and it seems only the German ID card and your passport count. And I'm not going to carry my passport with me everywhere I go, so I can't use the app.
Do you mean the Bahn App? I'm not sure but afaik you can also use a credit card to identify (at least my non-German partner does so and has never had any problems whatsoever).
I've travelled a fair bit on German trains using the app, and have never actually been asked to show any ID. I think they would only do that if they had reason to think you might be lying about your identity, or had, say, stolen somebody else's phone.
@@rewboss I did see somewhere a post on a Bahn forum confirming this. But I more meant the local transport. Here in Stuttgart they say "HandyTickets sind nicht übertragbar, da sie nur zusammen mit einem amtlichen Lichtbildausweis gültig sind." Maybe the controllers don't care, and yes you don't see them very often, and yes the savings could outweigh the fine, but I'd rather stay the right side of the law at least until I get my German citizenship in 7 1/2 years or so ;-)
Maybe you can apply for a electronic residence permit card, which, despite not officially being recognized as an ID card, basically has the same format, functions and information on it.
Do you plan on getting a German passport in addition to the ID card? Are you allowed to have both? What did you use for ID in Germany before you became a citizen and got that card?
Based on what I know and read: Yes you can have both the id card and passport. Although in Germany they make it complicated to get both. You would need a separate appointment for each separate id document.
@@tichtran664 Would not agree. It's the same institution that issues them, one appointment shall do. A lot of people go for the ID as the primary and only add the passport if they actually need it for travel. Passport is a lot more expensive than the ID and takes longer to make because contrary to the ID card they are printed by the federal printing office.
Sure can you have both. It just costs money and time, every 10 years. So the majority of Germans has no passport while they may have had one in the past, or will have one in the future, for travel to countries which still want to print visa information into the document.
There are times when you need to give an address, for example to open a bank account. In the UK you need to show a couple of recent utility bills. In Germany, it's on your ID card.
or for example when pandemic restrictions tell you to stay in your region: you dont want policemen making thousands of timeconsuming database accesses for something as simple as telling them that people are from around the corner and not breaking any travel restrictions. Having the address on it also helps emergency services etc. ... plenty of benefits of that feature.
And people here in US complain about the REAL ID LAW. At least here in the us you CAN USE YOUR DRIVER LICENSE AS A REAL ID. But only if it FEDERALLY EHANCED. Meaning you have to prove to the DMV(department of motor vehicle) your Social security card, TWO PROOFS OF ADDRESS, and something like a US PASSPORT or Citizenship certificate(with picture) to prove identity. Or you could also use your federal indian tribal ID card, passport(yep that again), green card, etc as your real id when going to airport, federal courthouse , military base, etc. But yike in Germany only a german national id card or passport is valid id. Not your driver license. Plus the german ID is valid for 10 years like a passport. I wish it was the same with my CA state ID card. It only valid for 6 years until you turns about 64. Then it valid for 8 years.
Although the irony is I am kinda pissed and worried about the real id law being enforced by 2022. And I did apply for my passport CARD NOT BOOKLET. Meaning I can only go to Mexico/Canada by CARS ONLY or to the carribbean by BOAT ONLY. If I want to travel by airplane to other country it is still a passport book(which is more expensive). And I need my passport if I want to go to federal court to get my Social Security Disability appeal.
Blame you government about their crazy regulations. Every foreigner is a terrorist unless proved otherwise. But inside the US you get away without proper registration, which in turn leads to refusing the right to vote to underprivileged persons.
The need of a card reader to identify online is so German. 10 years behind 😜. In Austria you can legally sign any document and access all online government services with your registered phone since 2009 😅 (Handy-Signatur)
Interesting fact - post-Brexit residency cards for Brits in Germany are nearly identical to German ID cards. I can read them using the same app! Not sure if that's good online as well - but then again, are German ID cards actually useful online? It is a digital wasteland of Germany after all.
But we have a - for some people strange - rule, that your first name must identify your gender. So some names are just forbidden. Like calling a girl "clark" or "December".
Yeah, the German state has no official concept of "race" -- I mean, who gets to decide which "races" of human there are and which one you belong to? Germany doesn't have the US's history of formal racial segregation* (which lead to a person's "race" becoming an actual legal category there), so there's no framework for them to put that sort of thing on your ID card even if they wanted to. *Well, the Nazis obviously did segregation, but it didn't exist before or after.
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs Actually science decides, and it has been proofed races don't exist at all. To describe people verbally, naming the skin color should be OK. In a German passport, there is the eye color but not the skin color. I find that a little strange, since the skin is much more obvious.
@@BangOlafson Mine too. We have three nationalities spread about the family. The thing is, all three countries insist that if you are a citizen, then you use their passport and enter as a citizen, so our passports (12 of them so far) take up a lot of luggage space...
Fun fact: The section nationality on the ID card is not a proof of german citizenship. It only provides a presumption, that the ID card holder is a german citizen.
Correct, you would need an addtional document for proof. But that document isn't issued without a reason because all the "Reichsbürger" wanted to have theirs. Don't know why.
I often wondered about that, as they don't seem to be given to any non-German nationals: I didn't have any for a few years as a UK national, so had to keep my passport up to date, and my wife as an non-EU citizen gets a very different style of ID card.
To clarify: This has nothing to do with "Reichsbürger" conspiracy theories (altough the Reichsbürger sometimes use this fact in their crazy lines of argument) or ethno-fascist theories. A proof of german citizenship is usually provided by a birth certificate or, in case of rewboss here, with a certificate of naturalization. In rare cases when there are doubts, a certificate of citizenship can be issued to proof citizenship. de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatsangeh%C3%B6rigkeitsausweis
Thank you for this. As a German citizen I completely rely on your well researched updates to understand my country.
what we always wanted to know about Germany, but never dared to ask.
He really would be a great teacher :) So many wrote under his video about political institutions and voting system they understand it better as in school.
Huh das mit der Post wusste ich nicht. Bin fast geneigt meinen eigenen Perso in den nächsten Briefkasten zu werfen.
Funny, that thought occurred to me as well. Unfortunately my ID shows my home address, which is a few hundred kilometres from where I live during the week, for work, so that would make life complicated...
Den selben Gedanken hab ich auch gerade. :-D
Dann schau Dir besser vorher an, welcher unterbezahlte Subunternehmer den Briefkasten in Deiner Straße leert.
lol Dann bitte berichten, ob's geklappt hat.
steht ja auch die addresse drauf.
Haha, that last sentence... 😂
Of course there are fixed phrases for those occasions. The most popular one translates to "I know where your house lives". Second and third place are "I know where your bed sleeps" and "I know where your fridge cools".
Ich weiß, wo dein Haus wohnt, wo dein Bett schläft, und wo dein Kühlschrank kühlt! 😂
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I well remember the border from Austria to Germany in 1990 were a big sign said that entrance to Germany will be only possible with a passport or a maximum 3 month overdue health insurrance card.
And you can open some doors with it…like, with any other card with this format and material^^
2:10 Schengen actually does abolish the pssport because you can travel only with your ID. You don't need a _passport_ when travelling in Schengen. You only need your ID
That is unless you lost your ID and waited for the new one. And that is unless your ID is expired.
We could travel to many countries with just the ID card long before Schengen. Including to non-EU/non-EWG member states.
Thanks for sharing important information! Stay safe.
Herzlichen Glückwunsch!
Ich sehe mir deine Videos jetzt seit etwa 5 Jahren an und finde deine Perspektive auf alles was Deutschland betrifft immer sehr interessant.
Ich finde immernoch dass du eine gewisse Ähnlichkeit mit "Eddi" von der A Capella-Gruppe Wise Guys hast.
Schade dass die Jungs mittlerweile nicht mehr Aktiv sind.
finally found the channel i have been searching for a very long time
Some countries even allow you to travel there with an invalid ID card or passport, if it hasn’t been invalid for longer than 1 year...
Your German viewers might want to know: What got the folks in the UK as proof of idendioty and when do they need it? Thank you.
endlichdrin Rechnungen mit der Adresse und Geburtsurkunde nehme ich an
Passport or driving license
@@TheAyla2004 So your only way to get id card, is to go through driving school? Interesting system...
Don’t get me started … pet peeve alarm!
If you’ve got a passport (different topic) it will proof your identity, but as proof of address you often need two invoices with your name on them.
We once had to change our phone and electricity bill / contracts so I could join my husbands UK bank account (4 weeks later … when the next invoices finally arrived..).
The ridiculousness is that neither your electricity supplier nor your phone supplier check if you actually live at that address (and the bank simply assumes that if you manage to get hold of the invoice you must live there).
Identify theft is a real issue in the UK, so much so, that you can buy stamps that block out your address from basic letters you receive before you bin them , just in case someone might use the letters or your name and address to commit fraud (side note: there is also no name on the doorbell or letterbox of British houses, which also means the post man will deliver any letter to your address, despite the name on the letter not matching that of the houses residents …. which in Germany would mean that it wouldn’t / shouldn’t be delivered as it’s not intended for you… Postgeheimnis and all…)
It makes no sense whatsoever. I’d understand the British issue with ID cards if they generally weren’t required to proof their identity or address, but they are required to do so just the same as in Germany (bank, contracts , mortgages, insurances, drivers licence etc) so by being against ID cards they are essentially only insisting on doing this in the most ridiculous way possible (whilst there is no Melderegister there is a voters register, so if you want to vote, at least the council will also know where you live anyway… and the DVLA if you’ve got a drivers license … ID card or not…)
The only upside ( if you are of my political inclination) is that it is (was) much harder to detect “illegal” immigrants. However those against ID cards are often also those who are also keen to get rid of immigrants so that’s not their reason to oppose them either … and now that the government requires landlords and employers to check if someone is in the country legally that advantage of not having ID cards and a Melderegister is also pretty much gone …
Oh and the lack of a Melderegister and ID card is also why hundreds of thousands of EU citizens are now left having to proof they have been living in the country for years via letters of their kids schools teachers ( “drops the kids off every day)” and similar nonsense...
No one even asked my British husband (we moved to Germany after Brexit) this when he applied vor dual citizenship, because Melderegister stated when he had moved here.
It’s an archaic, most impractical and easily abused way to deal with a situation that requires you to identify yourself just as often as in Germany…
@@ID-ig6fq I mean you were a year late but I read the whole comment and it was very interesting!
Also; username checks out :D
Thats so nice that the post man would deliver a lost id. I remember losing mine yrs ago & bc i went several months without one i ended up buying a new one & then weirdly enough my original id was sent by mail a couple of months later. So i wish that type of thing existed in the us, it prob wouldve been found sooner
I once lost my ID card (when it still had the larger format), and only noticed this when I was in the train to Slovakia. Normally there are no checks at the German-Czech border, but this time the border guards (which were walking through the train between Dresden and Bad Schandau) actually controlled me, because some "suspiciously-looking" people were sitting in the same compartment. I somehow managed to convince them to let me pass (by showing my health insurance card and my Bahncard, one of which had my photo and the other one had my birth date). Later in Slovakia it turned out that I actually needed my ID or passport number to fill a form in the hotel. I phoned home and got my passport number.
Intersting! Some time ago i tried to research the "Ausweispflicht" in Germany and Austria. What i came across differed from what you researched. Your rsearch is much newer so maybe something has changed. What i found years ago was: In Germany supposedly you had to have some form of ID on you, and would be fined if you could not present any when you get asked/checked by police. In Austria you would get no fine, but the invonvenience of maybe having to accompany the police to somewhere your identity can be prooven. (i guess the later one would be the same in germany).
Nope, carrying an ID on your person was never mandatory.
Nope, no fine. You are getting a fine if you are driving without a licence, but the ID is something different. Contrary to popular belief you don't have to carry it around all the time, you just have to own one, but in a lot of situations a lack of ID can be problematic, so it is easier to just have it with you. If you don't, the police will bring you wherever your ID is, and then you can show it to them.
Possibly this goes back to the occupation right. At least in West Berlin, every adult was obliged to be able to identify himself at any time (either with an identity card, a passport or a driver's license ... although I would never have recognized my father on his "rag").
In Mexico our de facto ID card is our voting credential, you can't vote without one, and if is expired or you are trying to vote in the wrong polling place. When voting, you are been asked for you ID, the staff members (who are your neighbours) check if you are enlisted and also the parties representatives and observers. Then, they give you the ballots, you choose your candidate in a sort of cabin, and then you put your vote in the ballot box and the staff return to you your ID.
The thing is, that was the only official use for which it was intended. Now even the banks have some access to the National Electoral Institute (INE) database to verify your identity and biometrics. Even the tax authority, who has their own safeguards (well, their webpage and taxation systems are totally crap), revise their data with the INE database, because it is bigger and more updated. Every your go, if you want to identify yourself they will ask for your voting credential. You may ask for a credential without your address (this was implemented after the increase of kidnappings and extortions) but anybody wants (as far as I know) one, because it is useful as a proof of address.
Das mit dem Briefkasten ist ja cool! Again what learned :-)
Yeah, that have I also not geknowt.
I remember when I was a kid and lived in Germany for a few years seeing those cigarette vending machines on the street. In the early 80's they didn't have all this new technology or even really care about the health impacts of smoking. So any kid with a few marks could buy cigarettes out of those machines as long as some responsible adult didn't see you and yell at you.
When I was a kid growing up in Canada smoking was everywhere. My parents smoked in the car with me and it was normal... I guess.
But I fckin smoke now. I hate it. I'm so addicted. Ugh. I feel weak saying it but God damn they are addictive.
I born at 84 and as a kid you could buy alcohol as well.
My mum sent me to grocery store to buy sparkling vine for a party.
Nobody asked i could buy it as a 9 year old.
In the late 90s as well. What struck me as really cool was the fact that the change (say you paid with a 5 DM coin for a 4 DM pack) was often INSIDE the cellophane wrap of the cigarette pack itself. Mind boggling :D
It is a very useful thing: I use my British passport when I go out of the EU, but coming back I can use my German ID card at the immigration desk regardless of which EU country I arrive in.
Also, living near the French border it means I don't have to think about carrying a passport when I go for a bike ride...
Is it so much easier to travel outside the EU with a British passport than with a German one? Or is that just so that you don't need to have both a German passport and an ID card?
@@Seegalgalguntijak, my guess is that Andy in Germany uses the British passport because Brits don't have ID cards. Using the British passport instead of a German one saves the money for an additional German passport. However, when you enter the Schengen zone or travel within it, it is a matter of convenience to use the German ID.
@@NikolausUndRupprecht
Not only Schengen, there are also countries outside the Schengen area where you can go with only the ID Card like the UK or Ireland and problably some more.
@@Seegalgalguntijak I use my Belgian passport to travel by air, or where my ID is checked and there are automatic barriers who can read my passport, but not my (Belgian) ID card. It depends a bit which line is longer, but the one with the automatic barriers is generally shorter and quicker. For countries where I need a visa or who stamp it, I prefer to use my passport, too, because I could loose my entry stamp too easily if it's on a loose scrap of paper, like when you travel to Turkey (Germans don't need a visa, Belgians do, but I could travel with just my ID and a visa).
@@barvdw when I lived in Belgium I had to have a Belgium ID card even so I possessed a German ID and Passport. Much to my surprise they changed my name back to my maiden name I had given up 20 years earlier 😁 which in turn proved to be a puzzler for police when I had to present my ID and drivers Licence (German) whilst visiting Germany
about the "need to carry ID in different jobs": Also in security, at least while you are working :D
Awww you already have that typical happy face expression on your Perso :)
Well I look like a criminal on my photo. It is so embarrassing to show this ID to someone else xD
@@DrachenKaiser Everyone does nowadays, don't we 😀
Martinique you say...hmmm sounds good. :)
lmao i remember watching some christmas video of you 12 years ago
my hasuband is live in german he is from africa his identity is subsidary right now i want to come german but they said the chance are very low in embassy konen sie mir helfen what do you say?
@03:08 (subtitle) compromised, not compromized.
Sir i have germany id card but i don't know what i do for back
i remember as little boy i always wanted look at the ID cards of my grandparents or of my moms, now i have my own ;)
I do always carry my id card with me, but since this year, I've gotten one of the newfangled electronic ones, so I put it into an RFID protection sleeve, so that it cannot be accessed from afar (contrary to what's widely believed, you can actually read an RFID tag over several meters with the right antenna and transceiver setup, therefore it would be relatively easy to register everyone that's passing through, say, for example, the door of a train station or something like that). I also deactivated the e-ID functionality, because while it is supposed to provide anonymous access to commercial services on the web (if they were adapting it, which they are fortunately not), the party in between the web service and you, which validates the e-ID, will know every service you registered with, as well as when/how often you log into it, so that's not anything I would consider "secure" or even "privacy preserving", as it is advertized.
So you have no problem with people seeing your face without your permission, but you have a problem if they know your name without your permission ?
It's just a matter of time, to get your name from your face anyway. No need to hide your chip ;-)
@@holger_p Yeah, that's another concern of mine. Basically the total totalitarian surveillance society. I do protect myself as much as possible (i.e. not running Google software on my phones etc), but this would then make it necessary to wear one of those glasses that throw facial recognition systems out of whack, or to actually paint my face accordingly (which, in turn, could be a good conversation starter also ;))
If two or more RFID enabled cards are together in the same wallet (e.g. ID and bank card) it is no longer possible to read them from afar. They just interfere with each other.
Gratulations are in order! Enjoy your dual citizenship!
Do I need new Temporary residence card with new UK passport, thanks for the information
Always recommended to carry your ID with you, even if you don't have to. Otherwise Police could put you in the back of their car and drive you home to proof your ID. Will make you your neighborhood's talking point for some days. Plus they won't bring you back to where you were checked for ID. Especially bad if your car is sitting there, one hour away by public transport.
Is this frm experience?
@@knux5796 Not my personal one.
I need help we was in love she was from Germany I am. Unable to get in touch is it possible to get details by her id details or is there any option please help if anyone
And in terms of Schengen - isn't it that you don't have to have an ID or passport while crossing the border, you just need to stick to the rules of the country you enter. If, for example, the country doesn't force you to carry a document - you don't have to?
No, as I said in the video, you must have ID or a passport with you when you cross a border. Of course, if you're then in a country that doesn't make you carry ID you can leave it in the hotel safe or something; but to cross a border you are legally required to have it.
As a german I‘m used to carry my ID card with me all the time. As I have been to the states and wanted to enter to a coffeeshop, they refused me for that having a passport with my (passport was in the hotel). I was very surprised that my ID card didn’t count for them :D
Unless the coffeeshop you wanted to enter sold alcohol, why did they refuse you entry? Happened the same to me in Chicago, I was refused to be served alcohol in a bar, even when me and my friend showed our IDs. They insisted in seeing our passports which were in the hotel. What makes it all the more amusing is that I got ID‘d in a San Francisco bar years after, and the bartender accepted my German ID. So, it depends on the people checking you, and you should‘ve been not refused service! :)
Duh 😂
They don't have cigarette vending machines in other countries? The ID card check was only introduced some years ago anyway, before then nicotine addicted children could get at any amount of cigarettes they desired through these machines. Actually they could get at them in supermarkets as well, because while the law prohibiting sale of cigarettes and alcolhol to minors was in place, it wasn't obeyed in practice. This has all changed in recent years.
No tobacco machines in Belgium, we do have a similar system for machines selling beer or other alcoholic beverages.
In Austria only specialized shops (Trafiken) are allowed to sell tobacco products, they need a special licence. But these shops are also allowed to put up vending machines to sell cigarettes outside their opening hours. There is an ID check similar to the German system.
You look extremely serious in your ID card photograph. You are clearly fully " ingeburgerd " in Germany, as the Dutch would say.
Actually, it's mandatory to have a neutral facial expression on the photo.
@@ohauss I know Oliver, but Andrew seems to have taken it to the extreme. I see when there is an election in Germany the politicians also adopt the same "I don't think I even know how to smile" expression in election posters. This is not knocking Germany. I am partly German myself.
@@G4KDXlive There's a reason these photos are jokingly called mug shots by Germans...
@@ohauss 😂 Don't give the authorities ideas! Next year I need a new ID. Now I wonder, if I will need to wear black and white striped clothes to get an official photo taken. 😉 Wait a minute! What is Andrew wearing in this video??? 🤔
Does Germany issue an ID card to everyone, who is registred in the country, like students, employees? I had been living in Belgium as a employee from EU, and there you must have a Belgium ID as a proof of identity, if you stay more than 3 months.
Long-term non-EU residents need a residence permit that can act as an ID. But otherwise your passport is valid ID.
@@rewboss Thank you for your reply and video! It seems that non-EU will get ID issued by Germany, but EU citizens not. But how EU citizen can proof their identity using their ID of origin country, if there are several people with same Name Surname from same EU country? In most countries there is national ID number system, so when you go to police, hospital, use any public service, you present your passport where your unique ID number is written. Because there are many people with same name and surname. How it is in Germany? Maybe you can make a new video about German ID number (social security or personal number) system? As EU citizen, I won't have German ID card, but Germany will not register my personal number from my country. Is there are 5 Anna Popova from Estonia, one of them commited crime, how Germany will recognize, who is who?
@@cathayat4672 Your passport has a number. And in Germany they also take your date of birth.
When you mentioned human trafficing I first thought about bus drivers and co😂. Well, you see, I'm not an English native speaker.
Your video really interest me, I have a German identity card of a man called Wolfgang, he is a German man, can you please help provide details of this man so that I can be able to reach him cause he’s in danger, some fraud stars are draining him on his money, please let me know what to do that will enable me reach him😢
Quick question: Is this the right way to say "German is a wonderful language to learn": Deutsch ist eine wunderbare Sprache zum Lernen
Assumption:
Andrew is buying lots of alcohol at the time in hope to show off his new shiny German ID card. :-D
Helloweener haha, no one in Germany asks for if when buying alcohol.. if you’re over 15, you don’t get asked.. I’m in my mid thirties and was asked for ID while buying booze maybe about 2-3 in my entire life
@@mats7492
I was asked a few times in Germany. Even when I was above 30. ;)
@@mats7492 I was in my late twenties when I was asked for my ID while buying alcohol-free beer.
Mein personalausweis läuft 2021 aus, mein reisepass gilt noch bis 2028. Eigentlich könnte ich auf einen neuen personalausweis verzichten und mich mit dem reisepass ausweisen. Ist nur unpraktisch, das große buch überallhin mitzunehmen. Ist es eigentlich strafbar, den personalausweis nicht zu verlängern?
Eine Ordnungswidrigkeit, soweit ich weiß, keine Straftat.
Und wenn du einen gültigen Reisepass hast, dann nix von beiden - denn der tut den Job auch.
Aber Vorsicht: Der RP enthält halt keine Adresse, kann deshalb also auch nicht zum Nachweis selbiger dienen.
Der Reisepass erfüllt NICHT des Zweck eines Personalausweises, da die Adresse dort nicht drin steht. Und da Du verpflichtet bist, einen Personalausweis zu besitzen, hat sich die Frage eigentlich geklärt. Nebenbei ist eine Verlängerung eines Personalausweises NICHT möglich, Du bekommst ein neues Dokument. Allerdings wird der Personalausweis auch anerkannt, wenn er maximal ein Jahr abgelaufen ist. Da der Personalausweis auch als Sozialversucherungsausweis fungiert (in manchen Branchen mit viel Schwarzarbeit ist es schwer zu empfehlen, einen Personalausweis mit zu führen), wäre es nicht sehr geschickt, keinen zu besitzen.
Perso brauchst du. Auf den Reisepass hingegen kannst du verzichten wenn du nicht planst die EU zu verlassen.
@@real_doombastic Ich hab gerade mal kurz das Gesetz zur Ausweispflicht angeguckt, da ich bisher der Meinung war, dass man nur Personalausweis oder Reisepass haben muss.
Edit(ausversehen zu früh abgeschickt):
Das Gesetz gibt mir recht. Ein Reisepass erfüllt auch die Bestimmungen der Ausweispflicht.
Tax evasion and human trafficking: All persons who work in transport and logistics count as well, like traindrivers etc.
So that means you have to get a new ID card every time you change your adress?
No, if you change your address, you'll have to go to the local residents' registration office to register it, and they will print a badge with your new address and affix it onto the old address on your ID card.
@@AniSkywalker04 Sticker not waterproof. Tried it so you don't have to 😂
Hi sir
I'd happily pay some money to get a German ID card; even if it said "Auslander" on it, it would be useful to have an official ID I could carry around. One problem is that if you buy travel tickets with the app (and so save money) you need to have photo ID with you, and it seems only the German ID card and your passport count. And I'm not going to carry my passport with me everywhere I go, so I can't use the app.
Do you mean the Bahn App? I'm not sure but afaik you can also use a credit card to identify (at least my non-German partner does so and has never had any problems whatsoever).
I've travelled a fair bit on German trains using the app, and have never actually been asked to show any ID. I think they would only do that if they had reason to think you might be lying about your identity, or had, say, stolen somebody else's phone.
@@rewboss I did see somewhere a post on a Bahn forum confirming this. But I more meant the local transport. Here in Stuttgart they say "HandyTickets sind nicht übertragbar, da sie nur zusammen mit einem amtlichen Lichtbildausweis gültig sind." Maybe the controllers don't care, and yes you don't see them very often, and yes the savings could outweigh the fine, but I'd rather stay the right side of the law at least until I get my German citizenship in 7 1/2 years or so ;-)
@@rewboss What did you use for ID in Germany before getting your current ID card?
Maybe you can apply for a electronic residence permit card, which, despite not officially being recognized as an ID card, basically has the same format, functions
and information on it.
Do you plan on getting a German passport in addition to the ID card? Are you allowed to have both? What did you use for ID in Germany before you became a citizen and got that card?
Based on what I know and read: Yes you can have both the id card and passport. Although in Germany they make it complicated to get both. You would need a separate appointment for each separate id document.
@@tichtran664 Would not agree. It's the same institution that issues them, one appointment shall do. A lot of people go for the ID as the primary and only add the passport if they actually need it for travel. Passport is a lot more expensive than the ID and takes longer to make because contrary to the ID card they are printed by the federal printing office.
Sure can you have both. It just costs money and time, every 10 years. So the majority of Germans has no passport while they may have had one in the past, or will have one in the future, for travel to countries which still want to print visa information into the document.
What is the point of having your address in that id?
There are times when you need to give an address, for example to open a bank account. In the UK you need to show a couple of recent utility bills. In Germany, it's on your ID card.
or for example when pandemic restrictions tell you to stay in your region: you dont want policemen making thousands of timeconsuming database accesses for something as simple as telling them that people are from around the corner and not breaking any travel restrictions. Having the address on it also helps emergency services etc. ... plenty of benefits of that feature.
Hello
"Good luck"
And people here in US complain about the REAL ID LAW. At least here in the us you CAN USE YOUR DRIVER LICENSE AS A REAL ID. But only if it FEDERALLY EHANCED. Meaning you have to prove to the DMV(department of motor vehicle) your Social security card, TWO PROOFS OF ADDRESS, and something like a US PASSPORT or Citizenship certificate(with picture) to prove identity. Or you could also use your federal indian tribal ID card, passport(yep that again), green card, etc as your real id when going to airport, federal courthouse , military base, etc. But yike in Germany only a german national id card or passport is valid id. Not your driver license. Plus the german ID is valid for 10 years like a passport. I wish it was the same with my CA state ID card. It only valid for 6 years until you turns about 64. Then it valid for 8 years.
Although the irony is I am kinda pissed and worried about the real id law being enforced by 2022. And I did apply for my passport CARD NOT BOOKLET. Meaning I can only go to Mexico/Canada by CARS ONLY or to the carribbean by BOAT ONLY. If I want to travel by airplane to other country it is still a passport book(which is more expensive). And I need my passport if I want to go to federal court to get my Social Security Disability appeal.
Blame you government about their crazy regulations. Every foreigner is a terrorist unless proved otherwise. But inside the US you get away without proper registration, which in turn leads to refusing the right to vote to underprivileged persons.
…it has a chip inside of it. Very vulnerable to hackers BTW, which was nicely described on one of the CCC (Chaos Computer Club) conferences
Germany,
Redefining security since De-Mail
scary
And I know you live in Backsidemonkeycastle. 🤣
The need of a card reader to identify online is so German. 10 years behind 😜. In Austria you can legally sign any document and access all online government services with your registered phone since 2009 😅 (Handy-Signatur)
You only need a card reader if you don't have a phone that has NFC.
In East-Germany carrying your ID card was mandatory.
But it did not mean a thing, they knew who you were and where you were going
Interesting fact - post-Brexit residency cards for Brits in Germany are nearly identical to German ID cards. I can read them using the same app! Not sure if that's good online as well - but then again, are German ID cards actually useful online? It is a digital wasteland of Germany after all.
May i ask, why you applied a german citizenship?
He talked about it in an earlier video. If i remember correctly: brexit.
Is 'bugger' a special German word?
No, it's not a word at all. If you pronounce it the english way, it would be spelled bagger in german wich is an ordinary excavator.
Now I know where you live 😂😂🤣🤣
Thank God France does not require this.
What I discovered recently that in contrast to the US you have no "race" and no gender on the passport. See how progressive we are!
But we have a - for some people strange - rule, that your first name must identify your gender. So some names are just forbidden. Like calling a girl "clark" or "December".
That rule has now been dropped.
Yeah, the German state has no official concept of "race" -- I mean, who gets to decide which "races" of human there are and which one you belong to? Germany doesn't have the US's history of formal racial segregation* (which lead to a person's "race" becoming an actual legal category there), so there's no framework for them to put that sort of thing on your ID card even if they wanted to.
*Well, the Nazis obviously did segregation, but it didn't exist before or after.
@@HeadsFullOfEyeballs Actually science decides, and it has been proofed races don't exist at all. To describe people verbally, naming the skin color should be OK. In a German passport, there is the eye color but not the skin color. I find that a little strange, since the skin is much more obvious.
@@holger_p The idea of there being many dark-skinned Germans probably didn't enter anybody's mind when they made the rules.
A friend of mine, got his passport delivered by the police in person, before he even noticed he had lost it.
The last part reminds me of Sherlock - "High functioning sociopath - with your number" 😉
Ich habe Deutsche Pass yooo
Why keep your British passport? Are you a German now or not?
he is both. And why throw something like that away if you dont have to?
My daughter has 3 passports :)
Yes.
He is german. And holds a british passport as well. Thankfully he did not have to choose.
@@BangOlafson Mine too. We have three nationalities spread about the family. The thing is, all three countries insist that if you are a citizen, then you use their passport and enter as a citizen, so our passports (12 of them so far) take up a lot of luggage space...
Fun fact: The section nationality on the ID card is not a proof of german citizenship. It only provides a presumption, that the ID card holder is a german citizen.
Correct, you would need an addtional document for proof.
But that document isn't issued without a reason because all the "Reichsbürger" wanted to have theirs.
Don't know why.
I often wondered about that, as they don't seem to be given to any non-German nationals: I didn't have any for a few years as a UK national, so had to keep my passport up to date, and my wife as an non-EU citizen gets a very different style of ID card.
To clarify: This has nothing to do with "Reichsbürger" conspiracy theories (altough the Reichsbürger sometimes use this fact in their crazy lines of argument) or ethno-fascist theories. A proof of german citizenship is usually provided by a birth certificate or, in case of rewboss here, with a certificate of naturalization. In rare cases when there are doubts, a certificate of citizenship can be issued to proof citizenship.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staatsangeh%C3%B6rigkeitsausweis
I have seen an ID card where the holder is a British citizen (daughter of a British Army officer)...the ID card is not just for Germans.
@@NathanBerlin Either she had dual nationality or it wasn't a German Personalausweis, but some other ID card.