I'm a massive fan of the New York Central and their Hudson locomotives (as well as their other locomotives, although the Hudsons outrank the rest). I've studied them for years now. They were truly gorgeous and among America's best. It's an awful shame that no Hudsons were saved. I'd absolutely love to see a new J-1 or J-3 built from the ground up. Hell, even a J-2 would be amazing!
It's such a tragedy that all those trains and railroads are gone. If we could only bring back the trains, cars, morals, patriotism, and prices from a better time, while retaining our computers, Nintendo, Cartoon Network, current Pope, etc...
I will take the early 2000s Cartoon Network back. Better than what is on today. A rebuilt locomotive can cost up to a million dollars. A brand new engine would probably be three times that.
If they could rebuild one s1b and s2a and Hudson, a j1e and j2/j3a class could be rebuilt with the of an rr organization who’s about revving the New York central which is just as famous as the LNER London North Easter Railway.
Mr. Spaps me: the T1 number 5549 was scrapped but 5550 survived 5550:WOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA. PASSES BY LOUDLY train cars: click clack click clack click clack
Its amazing to see these beautiful steam trains in action. One that i like the most is at 0:15 since i live near the town of Poughkeepsie (Note the mid-Hudson bridge in the background.) Since these trains ran across the Hudson river. Nowadays, the track is most likely either torn up or used for the metro north line that has trains pass through the train station every so often. Its sad that all of these amazing steam trains have been scrapped. Alot of history of the railroad is not very kept track of (no pun intended.) Besides the walkway over the Hudson, which was once a railroad bridge. Alot of expanding tracks from the railroad has been forgotten about which is a shame since their used to be a railroad line right next to my house! Since the ballast has been removed from it, its a big empty ditch with water flowing through it. Although i have seen some wooden beams used for the track left on the side rotting away in the dirt. I hope one day they can better preserve railroads like these so the golden age of steam trains isn't forgotten.
New York Central rr Hudson, Niagara and Mohawk class steam engines were the best examples of steam power that represented the NYC rr during the steam era up through the 1950s. It's a true shame that none of the "Niagara" or "Hudson" type steam locomotives were saved/ preserved for public display and unfortunately all of the engines ended up being scrapped, it would be great to see an example of both of those 2 locomotive types still existing today in the modern railroading era.
NYC Toledo Div fan here! Still an awesome railroad as the modern day NS Chicago Line. But I'd love to time travel back to the mid 1940's w/a modern day smart phone and just...take in the 30+ First Class Passenger trains and misc freight, videoing all of it!
drby0788 I agree the Hudsons are the most beautiful steam engines that have ever existed. I'm still a fan of others especially the big boy and northerns but Hudson’s certainly are my favorite.
While I do absolutely love the Hudsons and especially the Dreyfuss streamlined J-3a, I still have to give the "most beautiful" crown to the SP Daylights. With the matching consist it's just bite-the-back-of-your-hand gorgeous.
Yeah that was pretty sad. But, I have a feeling that someone might have to rebuild at least one Hudson from the ground up. Not my idea, but to be honest, that would be cool, if there was enough money that is.
Well it's not a Hudson but the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is restoring Mohawk 3001 back to operational condition!!!! As a big NYC fan I'm really happy
Great to see the beasts that deposited an abundance of ash and cinders (accumulating quite deep) along the Hudson right of way, lasting many years after their extinction.
To keep the coal fuel damage in perspective we need to realize that coal was the fuel of choice, but not the fuel of necessity. Other options were wood and oil. Granted there were downsides to them as well, the coal pollution, in principle at least, could have been mitigated.
Well, a group is right now trying to build a brand new Pennsy T1. They've completed a significant amount of work on it (cab, several drivers, front frame and parts of the boiler), so it's not impossible.
@@amtrak_121 I think we should've just built the Hudson. While I do like the T1's, to build one, they have to, again, address the issues the T1's were plagued with in the first place. The J3 Hudson was a straight forward, reliable, and proven design.
Yeah I was going to reply that also. Neither the 2101 and for sure the 765 ever carried that whistle. Man that last clip was beautiful. I can just imagine hearing that whistle on a nice clear summer evening!
@@amtrak_121 Actually I just googled this project. Only posts I see are at least 6 yrs back. No official website. Nothing. So IF this happens it won't be any time soon.
b3j8 that's not true. People said that N&W#611 wasn't coming back and it did. That means the Hudson steam locomotive revival project is gonna happen. Slowly but surely. The NYC Hudson is one of the most famous steam locomotives in the world
Beautiful whistle
I'm a massive fan of the New York Central and their Hudson locomotives (as well as their other locomotives, although the Hudsons outrank the rest). I've studied them for years now. They were truly gorgeous and among America's best. It's an awful shame that no Hudsons were saved. I'd absolutely love to see a new J-1 or J-3 built from the ground up. Hell, even a J-2 would be amazing!
The J-2 was meant for the railroad's subsidiary the Boston & Albany. Those were actually less powerful than the NYC originals
I'm a NYC fanatic too
Amazing machines
Alive almost
It's such a tragedy that all those trains and railroads are gone. If we could only bring back the trains, cars, morals, patriotism, and prices from a better time, while retaining our computers, Nintendo, Cartoon Network, current Pope, etc...
We still have the NYC Mohawks
It would also be nice to see a new NYC Niagara Locomotive built as well
@@MrTrainiac2002 For now, you got the red devil...at least something similar until a new Niagara is built
I will take the early 2000s Cartoon Network back. Better than what is on today. A rebuilt locomotive can cost up to a million dollars. A brand new engine would probably be three times that.
If they could rebuild one s1b and s2a and Hudson, a j1e and j2/j3a class could be rebuilt with the of an rr organization who’s about revving the New York central which is just as famous as the LNER London North Easter Railway.
C&O 490 is a streamlined Hudson currently stored at the B&O railroad museum. Would be nice to get that thing restored
I thought it was 490?
C&O 490 isn't a J3a. She's an L1.
@@AdmiralColdhead I Got a J3a Hudson Number 5406.
@@maxwellwalcher6420 Sure you do.
@@AdmiralColdhead 5406 is built by the Lima locomotive works in 1929 and streamlined by ALCO in 1938 would she be steamed again,
If I’m ever rich enough I’m going to rebuild these fantastic steam locomotives
Amen
I’m a member of a railfan club in New York City and I’m bringing up a proposal to start our own J3a project. That is if the HSLRP is cancelled
Amtrak121 there better be a niagara in that nah just kidding one thing at a time by the way a T1 is being rebuilt
Mr. Spaps me: the T1 number 5549 was scrapped but 5550 survived
5550:WOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA CHUGGA. PASSES BY LOUDLY
train cars: click clack click clack click clack
God speed your wish then
Its amazing to see these beautiful steam trains in action. One that i like the most is at 0:15 since i live near the town of Poughkeepsie (Note the mid-Hudson bridge in the background.) Since these trains ran across the Hudson river. Nowadays, the track is most likely either torn up or used for the metro north line that has trains pass through the train station every so often. Its sad that all of these amazing steam trains have been scrapped. Alot of history of the railroad is not very kept track of (no pun intended.) Besides the walkway over the Hudson, which was once a railroad bridge. Alot of expanding tracks from the railroad has been forgotten about which is a shame since their used to be a railroad line right next to my house! Since the ballast has been removed from it, its a big empty ditch with water flowing through it. Although i have seen some wooden beams used for the track left on the side rotting away in the dirt. I hope one day they can better preserve railroads like these so the golden age of steam trains isn't forgotten.
That's the Bear Mountain Bridge at 0:15
New York Central rr Hudson, Niagara and Mohawk class steam engines were the best examples of steam power that represented the NYC rr during the steam era up through the 1950s. It's a true shame that none of the "Niagara" or "Hudson" type steam locomotives were saved/ preserved for public display and unfortunately all of the engines ended up being scrapped, it would be great to see an example of both of those 2 locomotive types still existing today in the modern railroading era.
NYC Toledo Div fan here! Still an awesome railroad as the modern day NS Chicago Line. But I'd love to time travel back to the mid 1940's w/a modern day smart phone and just...take in the 30+ First Class Passenger trains and misc freight, videoing all of it!
Most beautiful steam engine ever built!
drby0788 I agree the Hudsons are the most beautiful steam engines that have ever existed. I'm still a fan of others especially the big boy and northerns but Hudson’s certainly are my favorite.
While I do absolutely love the Hudsons and especially the Dreyfuss streamlined J-3a, I still have to give the "most beautiful" crown to the SP Daylights. With the matching consist it's just bite-the-back-of-your-hand gorgeous.
@@JETZcorp Dreyfuss was also responsible for the styling of John Deere tractors beginning in the late 1930s.
The 4-6-4s were named of the river, Hudson. All the NYC Hudsons and Niagaras were scrapped in 1959.
It sucks. Wished one got preserved
Yeah, the only reason why the Mohawk survived was because the workers hid it
@@Henriqueleal0609 wait how
We should make one
@@railpicsandvids yeah, 3001 is in display
I always pass the Hudson and see the one metro line hoping one day these magnificent locomotives would come back
You may not know this, but the audio recordings they used for this video is early 765 and Chessie 2101 recordings.
Last, segment of video (film), is the tender picking up water on the go? NYC had such a system. A water scoop under the tender.
It was a great, effective system to help reduce stops. Apparently, the Hudsons only had to stop once on the way from New York to Chicago.
I think water scoops were a thing on the Pennsylvania Railroad as well
0:16 if you take a look at the background, you'll see a bridge, that's bear mountain bridge
This line went parallel to the West Shore which went towards Weehawken and is now the Metro North.
I know this was 5 years ago but it is sad that about 275 of these locomotives were built and none survived
Yeah that was pretty sad. But, I have a feeling that someone might have to rebuild at least one Hudson from the ground up. Not my idea, but to be honest, that would be cool, if there was enough money that is.
@@T128Productions How about going back in time to save one of the J-3As.
very well dubbed... i though these were the real audios of the hudsons
possibly one of my most fave whistles from the 20s-30s train era is at 0:22
Yup
1950s actually
I have an 1950 New York Central Railroad Spike
Wish 3001 was restored
October 9th 2024: It's Happening!
@@AndresVargas-r4k yes I heard
I think I had this on vhs when I was like 4 or 5 back in 2006 or 7
Well it's not a Hudson but the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society is restoring Mohawk 3001 back to operational condition!!!! As a big NYC fan I'm really happy
I only have one wish: for passenger railroads like the NYC and the PRR to return one day
Great to see the beasts that deposited an abundance of ash and cinders (accumulating quite deep) along the Hudson right of way, lasting many years after their extinction.
stephen heath didn’t think they used it until the Bronx/manhattan
RIP nyc hudsons
To keep the coal fuel damage in perspective we need to realize that coal was the fuel of choice, but not the fuel of necessity. Other options were wood and oil. Granted there were downsides to them as well, the coal pollution, in principle at least, could have been mitigated.
What if you were to use both coal and oil? Like infusing or soaking the coal in engine oil?
@@amtrak_121 A chemist would need to answer that, but I can easily imagine the disadvantages multiplying.
All Hudson’s are scrapped. Hopefully they make one brand new one day.
I’m gonna try for my own project for a j3a
Amtrak121 I would like to support that big fan of the NYC
Well, a group is right now trying to build a brand new Pennsy T1. They've completed a significant amount of work on it (cab, several drivers, front frame and parts of the boiler), so it's not impossible.
Yeet.
@@LIMowersAndMore Wait I Got it would NYC 5406 be steamed again,
Not sure of the date of this film (including the date of addition of narration), but interesting to hear the environmental cost estimate in there.
Would a crew built New York Central 5406 again.
What if one replica of a NYC class J3a can be reborn from scratch?
brian falzon If the British can make a Class A1. We can build a J3 Hudosn
brian falzon There is a plan to do that. To build J3a No. 5475. I’d definetely donate to that!
NE Railfan 812 yea the NYC Hudson is my favorite steam locomotive if we can build a PRR T1 we can definitely build a NYC J3a
@@amtrak_121 I think we should've just built the Hudson. While I do like the T1's, to build one, they have to, again, address the issues the T1's were plagued with in the first place. The J3 Hudson was a straight forward, reliable, and proven design.
What about a J1e? Specifically #5344? It can be a regular variant, Commodore Vanderbilt, and a Dreyfuss streamer while staying true to its source.
Anyone know the narrator' s name? He is on other rail tapes as well.
Bear Mtn Bridge at :20 in background
I think that last clip was original audio because I remember the NYC hudsons used Nathan 6 chimes
Yeah I was going to reply that also. Neither the 2101 and for sure the 765 ever carried that whistle. Man that last clip was beautiful. I can just imagine hearing that whistle on a nice clear summer evening!
b3j8 well hopefully that dream will soon be reality. Do you know about the Hudson steam locomotive revival project?
@@amtrak_121 No I didn't. I knew about the PRR T1 project. Do tell!
@@amtrak_121 Actually I just googled this project. Only posts I see are at least 6 yrs back. No official website. Nothing. So IF this happens it won't be any time soon.
b3j8 that's not true. People said that N&W#611 wasn't coming back and it did. That means the Hudson steam locomotive revival project is gonna happen. Slowly but surely. The NYC Hudson is one of the most famous steam locomotives in the world
Did you not see the Hudson j3a Hudson sound like pm berk whistle
I road the pumpkin train Campo it was a freight train that had passengers cars
Is this compattble with DVD or DVD-R I just want to know?
1:54
I’m gonna try to start my own project to build a NYC j3a
how is it going?
@@danikoo582 I haven’t started just yet
0:22 That Hudson stolen PM 1225's whistle!
Or maybe NKP #765’s whistle from when she was first restored in the 1970s? Who knows, they sounded alike.
@@T128Productions I'm pretty NKP 765's whistle does not sound like that.
Who said the NYC Hudson's whistle sounded like that??
@@matthewpastrikos7383It doesn't
@@danikoo582 Well what does the NYC Hudson actually sound like?
3 of them are not Hudsons. They're Niagara 4-8-4s with the "elephant ears".
Yeah, there was also a Pacific in there.
I actually didn’t see a Pacific. I just saw those Hudson Clips, I think there was a J1 in there, and the Niagara clips with the Smoke Deflectors
There's a pacific at 0:12
I really really HATE how they make their own audio
yeah