Quick Guide: Brahms Symphony No. 4

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  • @trevorbrown5714
    @trevorbrown5714 4 роки тому +129

    My favorite symphony of all time. It's so intense, passionate, and beautiful. I can never get enough of it!

    • @BrunoVasco
      @BrunoVasco 4 роки тому

      2

    • @roko199200
      @roko199200 4 роки тому +1

      This symphony accompanied me through very hard times in my life it occupies a very special in my heart too

    • @johannesbrahms4930
      @johannesbrahms4930 3 роки тому +7

      thanks bro

    • @genejones4110
      @genejones4110 6 місяців тому

      It's not my all-time favorite... but I totally understand why it's yours. It is my favorite Brahms symphony, though. My first live CSO Solti performance was Brahms 4. It was mesmerizing.

  • @FiveSharps
    @FiveSharps 4 роки тому +35

    This was the first piece I ever conducted. Despite the length and scale, its by far his easiest symphony to conduct and one of the greatest minor key symphonies ever, especially that heart wrenching finale. Always leaves this incredible somber mood when it is over, and usually the audience even takes a moment or two before clapping.

  • @johannesbrahms4930
    @johannesbrahms4930 3 роки тому +18

    I really put a lot of effort into this!!

  • @ngershon
    @ngershon 4 роки тому +8

    In the Brahms vs. Tchaikovsky argument, it always seems that musician really love Brahms wereas for the listeners Tchaikovsky is so approachable in comparison. By this point in my life I have come around to Brahms (the symphonies, the concertos Iv'e been listenning to for years), and these videos have bridged them a great deal. They also make you understand why musicians love him so much.

    • @oibruv3889
      @oibruv3889 3 роки тому +2

      No need for an argument, both are fantastic, and chances are we have time to listen to most of both

  • @nevets0910
    @nevets0910 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow just finished watching all these videos, amazing music and history! Hope you consider doing Mahler’s symphonies in the future!

  • @theodentherenewed4785
    @theodentherenewed4785 4 роки тому +11

    The best Brahms symphony to top it off. One of the best symphonies of all too.

  • @nynms203
    @nynms203 4 роки тому +42

    (the intro page with the parts says Beethoven 4th Symphony instead...thought I might point it out)

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  4 роки тому +25

      Noooo! Well noticed - sorry! But the info is definitely for Brahms haha

    • @nynms203
      @nynms203 4 роки тому +8

      No problem, keep up the amazing work! Love your content; we use it for A Level Music analysis sometimes 😂

    • @InsidetheScore
      @InsidetheScore  4 роки тому +17

      @@nynms203 that's awesome haha. Yeah I don't think this mistake is worth re editing and reuploading the video for though. I think people will realise it was just a slip of the mind

    • @alexandrugheorghe5610
      @alexandrugheorghe5610 4 роки тому +1

      @@InsidetheScore it's good enough. You're doing well. 🤜🏻🤛🏻🙌🏻✌🏻

  • @everettworld1765
    @everettworld1765 4 роки тому +7

    I love your passion, I used to listen to 4th Brahms after coming back from work 2-3 years ago.

  • @Luanne_Ashe
    @Luanne_Ashe 4 роки тому +15

    I love your channel. I am delighted that we can have continuing education in music appreciation without sitting in a stuffy classroom. Keep it up!

  • @tomheikkinen8494
    @tomheikkinen8494 2 роки тому +5

    Brahm's 4th is a true masterpiece. Sibelius is my favorite symphonist of all time, but there is relatively little commentary on his work. Perhaps Inside the Score could analyze one of his 7 symphonies?

  • @Theisentheis
    @Theisentheis 4 роки тому +6

    Would love to hear you about Tschaikowsky 1st, 4th-6th

  • @JJJRRRJJJ
    @JJJRRRJJJ 4 роки тому +4

    Nice to be reminded how much I love this symphony.

  • @sgwinenoob2115
    @sgwinenoob2115 4 роки тому +5

    Wish you made these longer! Excellent work

  • @mithramusic5909
    @mithramusic5909 2 роки тому +3

    I love the channel, and I'd love to have more of those symphonic deep dives like you posted on Spotify in years past! Thanks for breaking things down for everyone

  • @durinvoronwe
    @durinvoronwe 4 роки тому +10

    It would be excellent with some Bruckner next, in order to experience the greatest Codi (Codas?) ever written!

  • @stuzzop1709
    @stuzzop1709 4 роки тому +23

    Bro i think you should do the Mozart's requiem

  • @fcanerdogan
    @fcanerdogan 4 роки тому +1

    That is one killer 4th movement!

  • @emrecankiraz2340
    @emrecankiraz2340 4 роки тому +3

    We are eager to see a Schubert video!

  • @firzaakbarpanjaitan
    @firzaakbarpanjaitan 4 роки тому +5

    For next cycle of symphonies, may i suggest Rachmaninoff? Another i would love is Shosty's 5,7,8,10,11, and 15.

    • @daph0307
      @daph0307 4 роки тому +3

      Sibelius and Mahler would be great also.

  • @theoldar
    @theoldar 4 роки тому

    I can't remember who said this, but in commenting on this symphony he said "In the presence of such genius, we must bow our heads in awe." Amen.

  • @iggymokriski
    @iggymokriski 4 роки тому +3

    Great video, If you're feeling up it I'd love to see these Quick Guides on Schubert's Symphonies.

    • @laurencestaiff7338
      @laurencestaiff7338 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah I second that! Schubert is such an interesting composer

  • @johnargeles7019
    @johnargeles7019 4 роки тому +3

    I am doing this symphony right now in music theory!!

  • @georg2740
    @georg2740 2 роки тому

    I love especially the celli in the second subject of the first movement. It is just so sublime! I can only recommend the recording of Karajan. Just otherworldly and sublime! Hopefully our generation understands the beauty of classical music and preserves it well enough, your channel definitely helps in falling in love with it!

  • @mr-wx3lv
    @mr-wx3lv 4 роки тому +2

    I think it's probably the finest of his set. It's very serious, passionate and personal. I wish conductors would play the second movement slower (but that's my personal preference)

  • @Ivan_1791
    @Ivan_1791 4 роки тому +2

    Nice, I have been waiting for this. :)

  • @amdir7902
    @amdir7902 4 роки тому +6

    A really nice series! I´d like to see Sibelius´ and Bruckner´s symphonies next!

  • @simonjarvis6542
    @simonjarvis6542 4 роки тому

    I have happy memories of listening to my father's CFP records of all the Brahms symphonies (Hallé conducted by James Loughran) in the 70's. No.4 is probably my favourite and the Kleiber recording is great.

  • @HanGration
    @HanGration 4 роки тому +1

    Lovely horn calls in the exposition of 1

  • @earl3736
    @earl3736 6 місяців тому

    Can you also make a quick guides for Mahler symphonies? That would be much appreciated.

  • @juanmanuelcincunegui114
    @juanmanuelcincunegui114 3 роки тому

    Best piece of all times...

  • @stevereade4858
    @stevereade4858 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for a wonderful, informative and ... entertaining explanation of my Favorite symphony by my Favorite composer!

  • @sirya-bookie9495
    @sirya-bookie9495 4 роки тому +3

    Mahler symphonies next please!

    • @dannysampson615
      @dannysampson615 4 роки тому +2

      I second that!
      Maybe throw in Bruckner too

  • @gemnox
    @gemnox 3 роки тому +1

    If you plan on doing more of these, you should do the Schubert symphonies.

  • @jmrecillas
    @jmrecillas 4 роки тому +2

    After seeing your previous analysis on Brahms Symphonies, I waited with such a longing this that I cannot give you to much thanks for this brilliant analysis on his Fourth. Nevertheless, I just can say Thanks a lot for your effort on clearificate whats happen on this marvelous and astonishing masterpiece.

  • @pedromimo1952
    @pedromimo1952 4 роки тому +1

    Great job! This is awesome! It's not very easy to find online real explanations on what's going on inside the piece (themes, modulations, etc.). One thing I would like to ask is the differences between the themes and subjects - honestly I got a little lost when you were talking about the main theme and then the second subject. If you are taking suggestions, please do the New World Symphony :)

  • @עמיתמשיח-צ1נ
    @עמיתמשיח-צ1נ 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! I just listened to this symphony today, now I can't wait to listen to it again. What's next? Tchaikovsky maybe?

  • @arturmoraes5655
    @arturmoraes5655 4 роки тому +2

    Shubert next?

  • @stephanieray5940
    @stephanieray5940 4 роки тому

    Could you do some Christmas classics someday? You’re so good at breaking down music and making it easy to understand. I wish I’d had these guides in my life when I took intro to listening in college.

  • @christophernewman5027
    @christophernewman5027 4 роки тому +2

    Oh, l feel like l've waited an age for this.

  • @Cesar_SM
    @Cesar_SM 4 роки тому +1

    It would be interesting if you took Nielsen's fabulous six symphonies at some point.

  • @saltburner2
    @saltburner2 4 роки тому +4

    I've long thought the three greatest symphonies are Beethoven 3, Schubert 9 and Brahms 4.

    • @watutman
      @watutman 3 роки тому +1

      @@modernclassicalmusic8942 Yes I love Schumann 2 and 3

  • @akwan2000
    @akwan2000 4 роки тому

    Is this the Kleiber recording? If it is It sounded way more dimensional than the same recording on Apple Music

  • @Marabiza
    @Marabiza 4 роки тому

    I'm searching for some material, but until couldn´t find, what is a "grim Cadence"?

  • @BennoWitter
    @BennoWitter 4 роки тому +4

    Can we talk about that the second subject of the first movement sounds like a tango?!?

    • @FreakieFan
      @FreakieFan 3 роки тому +2

      Bernstein called that section a “mad german tango”

  • @roiehay7547
    @roiehay7547 3 місяці тому

    3:35 "Dramatic Fire" Gen z of classical music

  • @LinusCello75
    @LinusCello75 4 роки тому +1

    Maybe as a “break” Berlioz S. Fantastique?

  • @Enrobdoolb
    @Enrobdoolb 4 роки тому +1

    Wait!
    My form teacher said the 4th movement is a chaconne?!?! I even brought up it being a passacaglia but she said it isn't. The first 8 bars are a straight up chaconne, or are they both?
    Someone plz respond cuz I love this movement and I see both pass and chac in the score 😭

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 4 роки тому

      Chaconne and passacaglia are often treated as more or less interchangeable terms.
      But when they are differentiated, an important characteristic of the chaconne is its starting on beat 2, which Brahms doesn't. Your form teacher is incorrect. I wouldn't say it's wrong to call the movement a chaconne, but it's definitely wrong to deny that it's a passacaglia.
      The thing you often hear about a chaconne being based on a chord progression while a passacaglia is based on a melody line is untrue and unhelpful.

    • @Enrobdoolb
      @Enrobdoolb 4 роки тому

      @@Cherodar ok, follow up question because I've read so many books on this piece and I'm still a bit confused.
      Source: "the victor book of symphonies" (Charles O'Connell), says it's Passacaglia
      EDIT: Pages 131 - 133
      Source: "Norton anthology of western music 7th edition" (J. Peter Burkholder & Claude V. Palisca), says it's chaconne
      EDIT: Pages 943 - 976
      WTF 🥴😀😀🥴😀🥴😀🥴😀 but thank you for responding!!! I was hoping someone could explain, but as of the moment, I still can't decide cuz my professor and other form professors have said this is a chaconne 🥴🥴🥴

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 4 роки тому

      @@Enrobdoolb Well, it seems you've discovered that there is no clear answer! The textbooks don't agree, the professors don't agree. Some things are like that!

    • @Cherodar
      @Cherodar 4 роки тому +1

      @@Enrobdoolb You're welcome! Remember: if something seems like it doesn't quite add up, good chance it genuinely doesn't.

    • @bencostello7435
      @bencostello7435 2 роки тому

      The terms for all intents and purposes are interchangeable, but Brahms preferred Chaconne.

  • @sourjyabanerjee9310
    @sourjyabanerjee9310 Рік тому

    Minor IV-I sounds so devastating,as in the ending of the first movement.absolutely devoid of hope 😢

  • @kumo-kun1831
    @kumo-kun1831 3 роки тому

    By any chance you can make an analyse on the famous violin chaconne by Bach? These great video is great 💖💖💖

  • @005422iyy
    @005422iyy 3 роки тому

    07:58

  • @huyiii2435
    @huyiii2435 2 роки тому

    The first two chords of shympony 4 is eaxcatly the same start as Mendelssohn s op 103.

  • @marcusdibenedetto7958
    @marcusdibenedetto7958 3 роки тому

    Love your analysis. Thank you. Take a listen to a new release I absolutely love: Manfred Honeck (conductor), Brahms #4, Reference Recordings, FR-744SACD. Release date: 10/22/2021.

  • @BillDeef
    @BillDeef 4 роки тому

    I might have missed it. Why is Beethoven's Fourth pointed out at the beginning?

    • @willsober7161
      @willsober7161 4 роки тому +1

      He said it in somebody else's comment, it was a mistake, the info after is still for brahms tho

    • @BillDeef
      @BillDeef 4 роки тому

      @@willsober7161 Thanks.

  • @brendanward2991
    @brendanward2991 3 роки тому

    For me the finale is just a set of variations, like Beethoven's Eroica. I don't see how it's a passacaglia or a chaconne. Did Brahms himself call it either? (If he did, I concede the point. Who am I to argue with Brahms?)

    • @bencostello7435
      @bencostello7435 2 роки тому +2

      It's certainly a passacaglia/chaconne and not a theme and variations. Moreover, there is a macrostructure of something "sonata-ish"

  • @ApostoloZeno
    @ApostoloZeno 2 роки тому +1

    0:08 BEETHOVEN??????😅

  • @ЕленаШатравка-ц5з

    So, why Beethoven?😊 (0:09)

  • @moreaulerence-ler2531
    @moreaulerence-ler2531 4 роки тому +1

    Do Schubert all the way to Philip Glass !

  • @adrianoseresi3525
    @adrianoseresi3525 4 роки тому

    Primephonic are the only ads I get on these videos.

  • @matiasasef
    @matiasasef 4 роки тому +1

    * Sonata = Per sonare *
    * Cantata = Per cantare *

  • @Tijaxtolan
    @Tijaxtolan 3 роки тому

    Why don’t you analyze Schubert’s symphonies?

  • @JamesBrown-dg8le
    @JamesBrown-dg8le Рік тому

    Anyone notice the mistake in the intro that says Beethoven instead of brahms

  • @gigogrom216
    @gigogrom216 4 роки тому

    E F# G A A#! B D# E
    Most intense note (A#) is on Golden ratio (5/8)

  • @BennoWitter
    @BennoWitter 4 роки тому

    I like passacaglias. Especially Händel ua-cam.com/video/MQ8svM3S9t0/v-deo.html (even the modern interpretation by Halvorsen) and H.I.F. Biber ua-cam.com/video/sgcR183f8gA/v-deo.html
    I hope to see some more about baroque music on this channel in the future. It's so underrated these days.

  • @yeah8598
    @yeah8598 4 роки тому +1

    I can hear on this how much brahms was inspired by J.H.Schein (1586-1630)

    • @Anonymus-z3z
      @Anonymus-z3z 4 роки тому

      Interesting. Do you have a specific work(s) in mind?

    • @yeah8598
      @yeah8598 4 роки тому +1

      @@Anonymus-z3z yes.Banchetto Musicale

    • @yeah8598
      @yeah8598 4 роки тому

      @@Anonymus-z3z the start of the mvt.2 is the one that most remenbers me it.

    • @Anonymus-z3z
      @Anonymus-z3z 4 роки тому +1

      @@yeah8598 thanks for the quick answer. :)

  • @gabrielsilvanegreiros
    @gabrielsilvanegreiros 4 місяці тому

    🌎

  • @tahiragibson6407
    @tahiragibson6407 3 роки тому +6

    A weird pronunciation of “passacaglia”! (By weird I mean WRONG.)

  • @Alexagrigorieff
    @Alexagrigorieff 4 роки тому +2

    It's not how passacaglia is pronounced. "Passagalia"?

    • @ric5963
      @ric5963 4 роки тому

      gli in Italian is not pronounced separately

    • @Alexagrigorieff
      @Alexagrigorieff 4 роки тому +2

      @@ric5963 That part he got right. "lia". But it's "passacalia, not "passagalia".

  • @juwonnnnn
    @juwonnnnn 4 роки тому

    👏

  • @JC2023HD
    @JC2023HD Місяць тому

    I didn't get why the symphony ended tragically.

  • @AvGeekW159
    @AvGeekW159 4 роки тому

    Ah, yes, the Contrabassoon concerto

  • @themusiccritic3196
    @themusiccritic3196 2 роки тому

    Who else came here because of Yes?

  • @kennethcarvalho3684
    @kennethcarvalho3684 4 роки тому

    The narrator does'nt seem to connect with the narrative. That extra effort brings out the fact that he is merely reading it from a book.

    • @johannesbrahms3322
      @johannesbrahms3322 4 роки тому

      Why do you think that it is read from a book? Oscar is a very engaging speaker, maybe that's what you are referring to with "extra effort". But let me assure you, he always talks like this in his videos.