We ran Claas in the 70’s and 80’s when they were sold as Fords . They were ahead of everything made in US then . More cleaning area equals cleaner grain ! Our old 642 in one field and a John Deere 6600 beside us in another field . JD had a 4 row corn header and the 642 had a 6 row corn header. We caught more grain that was cleaner with less loss all the day long !
The AGCO/Fendt is really just one of those machines that start out great but slowly get more complex and expensive, I'd reckon that most of, if not all of it's 'futuristic appeal' was thought up on the fly by guys in suits at company conferences. The joystick is so sensitive that it could cause a major accident on the road if you don't hold it in an 'incorrect way' (clamping the bottom of the stick arm with your fingers and using your thumb or wrist to gently move the very bottom of the stick base) or have the precision of a neurosurgeon. Not to mention the terrible reliability of the AGCO/Fendt in relation to the CLAAS. I've seen and heard of guys running these CLAAS machines for decades and decades and only having to replace one or two small parts (besides obvious usual maintenance). CLAAS isn't innocent when it comes to making things complex but at least they properly test their machines and make sure they don't fall apart after two or three seasons. And before you get me wrong; I love both companies, I think AGCO and CLAAS have great machines on their lines and both offer great combines. I just think that CLAAS was obviously trying to create something for the farmer here and that AGCO really only wanted to make something cool but not necessarily care about it's operation. Feel free to add to my argument or debate my point in the comments. I'd be glad to hear from people who actually use these machines, my operation is just too small scale for these ones, haha.
Hell I'm 51 an been a john deere man but couple yrs ago I started to like fendts an now I'm pretty impressed with fendt need a bigger head .. keep it up an put a hurting on jd
they dont really need to get a bigger header. somebody who wants more then 50ft just goes with honeybee or something, header really is the lowest requirement for ANY combine brand. the technology innovation that goes into those combines is their main concern (rightfully tho). Fendt 9300 dynaflex = 50ft = 15m claas convio 1380 = 45.3ft = 13.8m NH 3162 draper = 45ft = 13.7m they already have the biggest header in the market and a shared top 1 spot 'biggest combine' in the world with lexion 8900. there is no need to increase header size currently and they wont. i do want to see a bigger grain tank option on 10t tho.
@@Matt___B The biggest header in the world is still the Australian manufacturer Midwest Fabrication's Durus Premium 18m or 60-foot draper platform. It was introduced 6 years ago all the way back in 2014 but is still the only 60-foot in 2020. UA-camr Mike Mitchell has just been testing a Honeybee header bigger than the 7 50-foot Honeybee headers they have been running on their 7 Fendt IDEAL 9 and 9T. He signed an NDA with Honeybee so he can show it or tell about it on UA-cam yet. But it's probably a 55- or 60-foot header. The Honeybee founder is his neighbor and friend, so that's a main reason he's one of the first to test out Honeybee prototypes.
Technically quite an interesting comparison, fascinating machines, but greatest, biggest, highest, heaviest... Who needs the greatest, the heaviest, the biggest combines? What's about efficiency (tons per hour), degree of complexity (maintanance fee) and fuel economy (CO2 per bushel)? What's the eco-balance (from Exploration of the RAW materials to the waste disposal) ? Especially to answer those question, i would be interested in the comparative figure of a Gleaner S98 or New Holland CR10.90 ? A general question in the face of limited resources: what will the development steps for the next generation of combine harvesters look like? even bigger? even heavier? Where is the future family farm in this competition? 1972 Dennis Meadows: The Limits to Growth... Pleased don't get me wrong, i only ask questions...
Komme hier aus England! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 Beide Harvester sind gut gebaut, aber dem AGCO/Fendt fehlt es an Technologie und Lebensdauer. In puncto Zuverlässigkeit ist der CLAAS offensichtlich besser.
If you account for reliability, fendt is the worst. I've been running a claas Lexion 480 for 25 years now, nothing but regular maintenance and a couple of bearings and belts. We bought a fendt 8410p to run along with our claas machine, the thing doesn't have 150 hours on it and the hydro transmission failed.
The 18.000 l grain tank from claas is an Option u can take normally it is 15.000 l and the Claas 8900 is an Hybrid u cant compair with dual Rotor Combine
actually the claas site says 44 tons per hour throughput and 25% increased over that which puts it under the 70 tonnes. Don't know where you are getting your info from.
@@susanwilde81 Really, 40 ton/hr? I think you misunderstood something ... Back in the day (1996) Claas said the 480 Lexion could do 40 ton/hr in the right circumstances. Today Deere is saying the same about its X9, they just raised the numbers to 100 ton/hr. But honestly, neither of those combines will do you a 100 ton/hr measured over a whole day. You won't even do 40 tons. The 100 tons are based on spot rates ... and there I have seen an X9 do even more than the 100, same accounts for the Claas. But one question I have: Where do you get those numbers (70 ton, 85 ton) from? Claas hasn't given out any numbers based on throughput since the 600 Lexion (wich they said it could do 65-70 tons). The only thing they told me is that the 8800/8900 would/could do roughly 15% more than the old 780.
Thanks for the video, but it's Lexion 8900, not a 9800 like you wrote several times. The video title says 8900, however, both the video description text and video graphics says 9800.
Not being a wise ass at all here, but I have to tell you, I thought same as you, after running a Cat front end loader 992C with a steering wheel, went to a 992G with the stic steer, yes there is a learning curve, but once you're on to it, you will throw sticks at that steering wheel !!
i dont understand tonnes of wheat / hour... jd has weaker engine and has 25 tones / hour more than these two combines that have nearly 100hp more... can somebody explain? thanks
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Depends on crop yields, header front, table or feeder house to seperation n clean area. Hp can help though heavy crop, most interesting is speed which combine can travel n these new combines are faster then class 8 combines with twin rotors. Claas would be my pick because AGCO n JD are still in early stages on improving n fixing issues with their combines. Although I haven’t had clean n change concaves in Claas. Of all these combines CaseIH is quickest change n clean down. Plus parts n servicing is strong, Claas has reasonable servicing unlike AGCO which has limited servicing, with fewer dealerships in Australia.
Just watch Mike Mitchel at harvest and you'll puke at just the thought of a fendt. Those things trouble. I don't care at what price I would get it. I get real tired if I gotta get in Tha back of a combine.
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Well, actually Claas and AGCO don't give you any numbers ... Deere is advertising its X9 with 100 ton/hr, but the combine will do those numbers only spotwise and if the circumstances are perfect. Most people I know running an X9 don't normally get over 75 tons (in good conditions) same with the Claas. The Ideal I don't know ... But honestly, if you take the average throughput of a whole day, neither combine will average more than 40 - 50 ton/hr, probably even less.
We ran Claas in the 70’s and 80’s when they were sold as Fords . They were ahead of everything made in US then . More cleaning area equals cleaner grain ! Our old 642 in one field and a John Deere 6600 beside us in another field . JD had a 4 row corn header and the 642 had a 6 row corn header. We caught more grain that was cleaner with less loss all the day long !
Claas for me, thanks :)
CLAAS for reliability also because Claas is my favourite
Ya brotha
The AGCO/Fendt is really just one of those machines that start out great but slowly get more complex and expensive, I'd reckon that most of, if not all of it's 'futuristic appeal' was thought up on the fly by guys in suits at company conferences. The joystick is so sensitive that it could cause a major accident on the road if you don't hold it in an 'incorrect way' (clamping the bottom of the stick arm with your fingers and using your thumb or wrist to gently move the very bottom of the stick base) or have the precision of a neurosurgeon. Not to mention the terrible reliability of the AGCO/Fendt in relation to the CLAAS. I've seen and heard of guys running these CLAAS machines for decades and decades and only having to replace one or two small parts (besides obvious usual maintenance). CLAAS isn't innocent when it comes to making things complex but at least they properly test their machines and make sure they don't fall apart after two or three seasons.
And before you get me wrong; I love both companies, I think AGCO and CLAAS have great machines on their lines and both offer great combines. I just think that CLAAS was obviously trying to create something for the farmer here and that AGCO really only wanted to make something cool but not necessarily care about it's operation.
Feel free to add to my argument or debate my point in the comments. I'd be glad to hear from people who actually use these machines, my operation is just too small scale for these ones, haha.
Hell I'm 51 an been a john deere man but couple yrs ago I started to like fendts an now I'm pretty impressed with fendt need a bigger head .. keep it up an put a hurting on jd
they dont really need to get a bigger header. somebody who wants more then 50ft just goes with honeybee or something, header really is the lowest requirement for ANY combine brand. the technology innovation that goes into those combines is their main concern (rightfully tho).
Fendt 9300 dynaflex = 50ft = 15m
claas convio 1380 = 45.3ft = 13.8m
NH 3162 draper = 45ft = 13.7m
they already have the biggest header in the market and a shared top 1 spot 'biggest combine' in the world with lexion 8900. there is no need to increase header size currently and they wont. i do want to see a bigger grain tank option on 10t tho.
@@Matt___B The biggest header in the world is still the Australian manufacturer Midwest Fabrication's Durus Premium 18m or 60-foot draper platform. It was introduced 6 years ago all the way back in 2014 but is still the only 60-foot in 2020.
UA-camr Mike Mitchell has just been testing a Honeybee header bigger than the 7 50-foot Honeybee headers they have been running on their 7 Fendt IDEAL 9 and 9T. He signed an NDA with Honeybee so he can show it or tell about it on UA-cam yet. But it's probably a 55- or 60-foot header. The Honeybee founder is his neighbor and friend, so that's a main reason he's one of the first to test out Honeybee prototypes.
@@ITubeTooInc Honeybee also producing a 60ft header for 2022.
I look at who can provide the best backup service no matter what time of day so for me it's the Class.
I don’t know what the price difference is, but I’ve worked on both and the lexion is very well thought out, the ideal isn’t ideal.
If I had to choose, I like the Fendt, one reason is the design
Technically quite an interesting comparison, fascinating machines, but greatest, biggest, highest, heaviest...
Who needs the greatest, the heaviest, the biggest combines? What's about efficiency (tons per hour), degree of complexity (maintanance fee) and fuel economy (CO2 per bushel)? What's the eco-balance (from Exploration of the RAW materials to the waste disposal) ? Especially to answer those question, i would be interested in the comparative figure of a Gleaner S98 or New Holland CR10.90 ?
A general question in the face of limited resources: what will the development steps for the next generation of combine harvesters look like? even bigger? even heavier? Where is the future family farm in this competition?
1972 Dennis Meadows: The Limits to Growth...
Pleased don't get me wrong, i only ask questions...
CLAAS is way in front in reliability. Automation is way ahead in CLAAS as well. I’d go CLAAS 👏🏻🇦🇺
Me to
Beide sind Aus Deutschland 🇩🇪🇩🇪🇩🇪👍👍👍😎😎😎 Ich find den Claas aber besser trotzdem sind beide gut
Komme hier aus England! 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
Beide Harvester sind gut gebaut, aber dem AGCO/Fendt fehlt es an Technologie und Lebensdauer.
In puncto Zuverlässigkeit ist der CLAAS offensichtlich besser.
@@jimbob3291 Seh ich auch so I agree
If you account for reliability, fendt is the worst. I've been running a claas Lexion 480 for 25 years now, nothing but regular maintenance and a couple of bearings and belts. We bought a fendt 8410p to run along with our claas machine, the thing doesn't have 150 hours on it and the hydro transmission failed.
Both of them are amazing! GERMAN POWER!
Jo
Laverda is Italy🇮🇹🇮🇹
Ya
Those Germans and their Half-Tracks....
I would pick the FENDT anyday. FENDT is the right way to go. Of course I know CLAAS are good, but FENDT is the top of the list.
Wrong claas all day any day
Lexion ❤️
CLAAS!
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If it comes to a decission i will stick to the manufacturer who has tradition so class the fend combines arent known for their reliability
The 18.000 l grain tank from claas is an Option u can take normally it is 15.000 l and the Claas 8900 is an Hybrid u cant compair with dual Rotor Combine
Both are dual rotor combines
@@videomaniac61 yeah but the claas is a hybrid
Gleaner!
CLAAS every time quality
Tribine is the first combine with no Steering wheel, been around a couple of season now
ohh that's a Beast
Claas can harvest max 120 tonnes per hour, don’t lie to people if you don’t know.
actually the claas site says 44 tons per hour throughput and 25% increased over that which puts it under the 70 tonnes. Don't know where you are getting your info from.
as for a preference - claas is advertising their machine based on efficiency which it beats fendt on
@@susanwilde81 Really, 40 ton/hr? I think you misunderstood something ... Back in the day (1996) Claas said the 480 Lexion could do 40 ton/hr in the right circumstances. Today Deere is saying the same about its X9, they just raised the numbers to 100 ton/hr. But honestly, neither of those combines will do you a 100 ton/hr measured over a whole day. You won't even do 40 tons. The 100 tons are based on spot rates ... and there I have seen an X9 do even more than the 100, same accounts for the Claas. But one question I have: Where do you get those numbers (70 ton, 85 ton) from? Claas hasn't given out any numbers based on throughput since the 600 Lexion (wich they said it could do 65-70 tons). The only thing they told me is that the 8800/8900 would/could do roughly 15% more than the old 780.
I l'OVE classe👍💪💪💪😎
Fendt looks awesome and badass
Claas the best!
8900 for me. In the Claas of its own. You may Fendt for yourself in the black combine 😂😂
Claas lexion all day long far superior machine in every way
Thanks for the video, but it's Lexion 8900, not a 9800 like you wrote several times.
The video title says 8900, however, both the video description text and video graphics says 9800.
fixed it already... and yes the intro title saysing 9800 was a little mistake...
but now at the description and video title is right 8900...
enjoy
I get angry when I see someone calling AGCO Ideal Fendt/Masey Ferguson It's a company that owns both 😡
Prefer the Claas 8900 👆🏻
They are like twinn brothers
not really
I would take both but I don't like the fendt without a steering wheel
Not being a wise ass at all here, but I have to tell you, I thought same as you, after running a Cat front end loader 992C with a steering wheel, went to a 992G with the stic steer, yes there is a learning curve, but once you're on to it, you will throw sticks at that steering wheel !!
For me Fendt is the best. Even better than an X9
Can u do lexicon 8700 vs case 9250 and 8600 vs 8250
in time yes... by now we have premieres until middles of November
Brillant fendt looks cool but claas better harvester id say
Best Combine = Claas
Best Tractor = Fendt (only 300-1050 series, 1100 series is american fake)
Fendt ist mega gut
Minha opinião fendt 10t melhor colheitadeira do mundo seguida da class8900
Класс только класс💪💪💪
Its all nonsence. Cant compare "rotors" of the hybrid and axial machine.
And why not? They both have rotors..
Claas just have the drum in front of them, too.
i dont understand tonnes of wheat / hour... jd has weaker engine and has 25 tones / hour more than these two combines that have nearly 100hp more... can somebody explain? thanks
all facts are coming from the official sites of each combine... engine does not matter so much... the difference is only 90 hp... but i don't know what's happening...
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@@MonsterTracksStudios ok i have. thanks
Depends on crop yields, header front, table or feeder house to seperation n clean area. Hp can help though heavy crop, most interesting is speed which combine can travel n these new combines are faster then class 8 combines with twin rotors. Claas would be my pick because AGCO n JD are still in early stages on improving n fixing issues with their combines. Although I haven’t had clean n change concaves in Claas. Of all these combines CaseIH is quickest change n clean down. Plus parts n servicing is strong, Claas has reasonable servicing unlike AGCO which has limited servicing, with fewer dealerships in Australia.
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Nice video and nice comparison but change the music. It’s annoying, like someone just have died!
The fendt
I was too alking to a farmer who had a Ideal on demo and it broke down the first day took 2 days to fix he bought it John Deere
I would probably pick the 10t because it’s bigger and better and I like Fendt more
avocado and grey, all the way
Faz dq Cr10.90 x Fendt 9T
Just watch Mike Mitchel at harvest and you'll puke at just the thought of a fendt. Those things trouble. I don't care at what price I would get it. I get real tired if I gotta get in Tha back of a combine.
At least the lexion doesn’t catch on fire after 10 acres lol
We ran ideals all year and got to try the only ideal 10t in North America and we didn’t have any burn lol
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Separating and cleaning capacity??? U miss this in all your combine videos.
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lexion 9800 in the first picture.. i think wrong ?
it is the 8900
Monster Tracks Studios i know, but look at your video. It says 9800😅
hahaha yeah.... wrong... but the video title is correct so you know.... the 9800 is not exist
Buonasera a tutti forza Fendt ideal 10 t
Valeur d'achat FENDT supérieur de 10%, valeur de revente CLAAS supérieur de 30%. Le choix est vite fait!!
"CLASS supérieur" Oui!
La claas c’est 100 t heure
In poor conditions the Lexion will be streets ahead.
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The Fendt for sure.
I Take the Fendt
Only 70 ton/hr. with Claas. 85 for the Fendt. JD X9 claims 100 ton/hr.(?)
Well, actually Claas and AGCO don't give you any numbers ... Deere is advertising its X9 with 100 ton/hr, but the combine will do those numbers only spotwise and if the circumstances are perfect. Most people I know running an X9 don't normally get over 75 tons (in good conditions) same with the Claas. The Ideal I don't know ... But honestly, if you take the average throughput of a whole day, neither combine will average more than 40 - 50 ton/hr, probably even less.
i would go for the fendit
Fendt
Definitely Claas 8900
Fendt is better but i prefer design class. But for harwest ideal 10t is better😎
Ideal.10t
Neither! I'll have a john deere x9🙂👍
Fendt