HUGE business opportunity in setting up independent shops to work on Teslas! Whoever out there has the smarts and the money to start a nationwide franchise business is going to be very successful! How about you Brian?
Condensation comes from compressing the air. Obviously, warm and humid air contains more water that gets condensed due to the pressure going through the pump/compressor.
the real fun with air suspension is designing a rolling sleeve bag and piston to get the right spring rate for the ride hight and then adding variable displacement, get a few old OEM air suspension struts and cut them up you will learn lots!
For what it's worth, there is no noise cancellation in your setup whatsoever. Cancellation requires a sophisticated computer, microphones, and accelerometers as well as speakers. What you have going on here is sound Deadening which is the proper term for passive sound attenuating materials
Just wondering should the "water trap" go in between the air compressor & tank? Would that prevent moisture from accumulating in the tank? 2:29 wow that sign is till working!
No because water will form in the tank anyway. You need to drain the tank every month or more to get the water out. Keeping the water out of the brains is more important.
Yes you should always run a trap between your tank and compressors as well. The airlift watertrap that goes between the manifold and tank does help but will not keep water out of your system
Hey.. new to the channel.. ordered my tesla Y hopefully next month will arrive . I’ll be ordering airlift performance since I had it in my hellcat but bought the car with it installed . And I want to do it my self on the tesla . Im a mechanic but rented out my shop and Im not working so I have my tools in my garage . What im looking to see with others videos.. where you did the electric connection since some people say to prevent battery drain . Where you did Your connection ? Thank you very much for your video
I connected the remote wire to the center console power. The console turns off after a few minutes and wakes up fast. This way you can play with the air on the app outside the car for a few minutes
Nice setup. When I slam my Model 3 I'm going to put ball valves on each line after it comes out of the controller in case the controller fails or as you said if I need to do any service I can lock each corner even if removing the tank or have to replace the controller or in an emergency. I did the same on my body dropped Accord.
Nifty idea with the magnetic phone holder to the back of the head unit. Where did you get yours? Also what did you do for a metal back you mentioned? Thanks!
I wanna install on my model Y performance? My options are ohilns redwood suspension or air lift performance. Which one you recommend and how is the ride with air suspension on it on streets and bumps ? Thank you
Thank you Brian . I don’t know if you see my installation on my Chanel... USA is great to allow you to install this system. I am inFrance and I will try to ask permission ... I think you don’t really need height sensors with the presets.
I should point out an even better set up is one that is hydraulic both for steering but in particular braking applications. "No air compressor or compression necessary." More weight depending on the engineering..but again adding an awesome amount of "braking force" if that is possible after market wise of course.
Did you have any issues with the power source in the center console? Like battery drainage or the system not turning off? I routed mine just like yours in the 12v port in the center and noticed the system doesn’t shutoff immediately but turns off after a couple minutes. Is that normal?
It's not super smooth over bumps but on the highway it rides nice. A smoother ride would be from the MountainPass Performance comfort coilover I had on before this set up.
I wonder how well this system will work when towing - especially with ride height sensors. Model X auto adjusts when towing - which makes towing MUCH MUCH smoother. It's a shame Model Y is limited to 3500lb towing and 350lb hitch weight. I wish someone would figure out the upgrades required to make it 5000lb/500lb rated (is there also a way to make it officially legal?!).
I’m also getting a clunk noise after my install. Coming from the rear. I’ve literally pulled everything apart and double check torque and all. Is that really normal? Love the videos. Keep it up🤙🏼 thank you.
@@gokaruna the coilovers are adjustable height. You can go higher than stock rode height or lower depending on what you want. A common approach is to do the mountain pass lift kit and the comfort coilovers for a higher but better ride than stock which allows for bigger tires as well
Hey just want to say I love your videos 🙌 but I also do have some questions about the install. My question is what was the spacing you went with on the front to get your adjustment and what did you do in the rear. I tried asking the manufacturer but they seem to not really give an answer 😅😂 I did message you on IG as well thanks
I don't remember the spacing because I changed it after everything was finished. I made it so I can lift it higher and not lay on the ground when aired out because I have a carbon fiber body kit coming. But What I have fount out is you will need to adjust the spacing on how high or low you want the ride hight. You want he bags to be in the 990 PSI range to have a comfortable ride.
Hey Dave, great information bro. You really help others and I appreciate it. So I have been interested in these and was unsure for a while because I want more hight like I asked you before. Please tell me how much overall this would cost to do it like yours is set up, honestly I have many questions that I need help with. Thanks
Total kit from Airlift is 4200. But to go higher with air is not recommended. The more air you put in the bags the stiffer and bumpier the ride is. Go with MountainPass lift for a higher ride and only 500. www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-1-75-suspension-lift-kit/
I think air ride is over rated and widely misunderstood. It makes good sense in applications where the load varies widely like a transport truck. If you want a smooth ride for your cargo you will specify air ride. The issue is: a trailer will carry about 50,000 lbs. If it is sprung for that weight at 10,000 lbs it is way too stiff. Probably equivalent to no springs at all. So adjustable air ride is very useful because the load can vary widely. But in a car that weights 5000 lbs and has a much smaller load variation a fixed spring system works fine. Air after all is just a spring which you can adjust. I have had 2 model S cars with air and I can adjust the ride height about 2 inches. Big Deal! who cares, what does that do. They claim you can lower the car on the highway for better efficiency but the gain is negligible if any. If you think the car is cooler 2 inches lower then grow up get a life. I drove a spring model S once and didn't see a big difference. My first P85D was do punishly stiff that Tesla quietly replaced the entire suspension at no charge. My subsequent P100D was okay. My wife's model Y is okay but a little stiff. The notion that a car with air ride is smoother or better than well engineered springs is hard to prove. The 3 & Y succeed nicely without it. Changing tire pressure will have a bigger effect. The increased cost and complexity is substantial as you demonstrate. I wouldn't give up my frunk to have it.
HUGE business opportunity in setting up independent shops to work on Teslas! Whoever out there has the smarts and the money to start a nationwide franchise business is going to be very successful! How about you Brian?
Why just teslas? What not all evs?
@@bb_alexander5385@bb_alexander5385 because the other OEM suspension works from stock.
/Long-term $TSLA holder.
came back here for my daily dose of good video! Awesome!
Glad to see Brian again on UA-cam.
Thanks!
Thank you very much!
Can you go the opposite direction where you can lift it to go off-road vs dropping the car
What I'd really like to know is if it really improves the ride quality
Has anyone set up an air ride in the lower trunk? I don’t want to lose my frunk space.
👍🤗 THANKS BRIAN FOR THE TOUR AND WHAT MAKES IT GO UP AND DOWN 🤔
WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT MAKES THE WHEELS GO ROUND 😉😍😍😍
Condensation comes from compressing the air. Obviously, warm and humid air contains more water that gets condensed due to the pressure going through the pump/compressor.
the real fun with air suspension is designing a rolling sleeve bag and piston to get the right spring rate for the ride hight and then adding variable displacement, get a few old OEM air suspension struts and cut them up you will learn lots!
For what it's worth, there is no noise cancellation in your setup whatsoever. Cancellation requires a sophisticated computer, microphones, and accelerometers as well as speakers. What you have going on here is sound Deadening which is the proper term for passive sound attenuating materials
Comparing Air- RIde vs Luxury Coil Over, which has a more comfortable ride?
I was wondering exactly that ...
Video soon on that. but the answer is coils and air. stay tuned
@@i1Tesla been 2 months tho
Are you selling your mountain pass?
How high can you raise it?
Fellow Lake Norman dude!
Just wondering should the "water trap" go in between the air compressor & tank? Would that prevent moisture from accumulating in the tank? 2:29 wow that sign is till working!
No because water will form in the tank anyway. You need to drain the tank every month or more to get the water out. Keeping the water out of the brains is more important.
Yes you should always run a trap between your tank and compressors as well. The airlift watertrap that goes between the manifold and tank does help but will not keep water out of your system
Hey.. new to the channel.. ordered my tesla Y hopefully next month will arrive . I’ll be ordering airlift performance since I had it in my hellcat but bought the car with it installed . And I want to do it my self on the tesla . Im a mechanic but rented out my shop and Im not working so I have my tools in my garage .
What im looking to see with others videos.. where you did the electric connection since some people say to prevent battery drain .
Where you did Your connection ? Thank you very much for your video
I connected the remote wire to the center console power. The console turns off after a few minutes and wakes up fast. This way you can play with the air on the app outside the car for a few minutes
@@i1Tesla excellent!! Thanks
The car looks so good man
can't wait to bag my 3 soon . I'm out in Vegas
Awesome video. Inspired me to do mine.
Did you do anything for the heat from the pump besides the passive cooling fins?
Can we drive for long drive with air suspension?
Do you still like them, would you do it again?
Complimenti ottimo lavoro posso chiederti il costo della modifica grazie
Nice setup. When I slam my Model 3 I'm going to put ball valves on each line after it comes out of the controller in case the controller fails or as you said if I need to do any service I can lock each corner even if removing the tank or have to replace the controller or in an emergency. I did the same on my body dropped Accord.
What’s the ride quality like compared to OEM suspension?
Basically the same, it’s just cool to have that tank in the back so it can make sound each time you raise them 😊
Thank you for this channel ❤️
Thank you too!
Nifty idea with the magnetic phone holder to the back of the head unit. Where did you get yours? Also what did you do for a metal back you mentioned? Thanks!
But how does it ride
I wanna install on my model
Y performance? My options are ohilns redwood suspension or air lift performance. Which one you recommend and how is the ride with air suspension on it on streets and bumps ? Thank you
Thank you Brian . I don’t know if you see my installation on my Chanel... USA is great to allow you to install this system. I am inFrance and I will try to ask permission ... I think you don’t really need height sensors with the presets.
I will check it out
I should point out an even better set up is one that is hydraulic both for steering but in particular braking applications. "No air compressor or compression necessary." More weight depending on the engineering..but again adding an awesome amount of "braking force" if that is possible after market wise of course.
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What are the brand and model of your wheels?
Great Video!
Thanks!
I wonder why they went with a reciprocating compressor instead of a scroll, it’s not like this is a cheap accessory for a cheap car.
MPP vs AirLift which one is more softer ride while retain oem height? Just want to see which route should I go with my LR Y.
MPP comfort is softer and better ride. they are great coilovers. He said in a comment above he agrees with that statement as well
Did you have any issues with the power source in the center console? Like battery drainage or the system not turning off? I routed mine just like yours in the 12v port in the center and noticed the system doesn’t shutoff immediately but turns off after a couple minutes. Is that normal?
Would you do installation 😏
Wow. Amazing You do so much to your car
Yes we do
Where did you get the 12 volt power source for the compressor ?
great video Brian! quick question: how much better is the ride quality after this upgrade?
It's not super smooth over bumps but on the highway it rides nice. A smoother ride would be from the MountainPass Performance comfort coilover I had on before this set up.
@@i1Tesla That is surprising that MP is smoother. I thought air ride was suppose to be smoother.
@@MrJimmyparky The MPP comforts really are great coilovers. Softer than stock with better handling characteristics
I wonder how well this system will work when towing - especially with ride height sensors. Model X auto adjusts when towing - which makes towing MUCH MUCH smoother. It's a shame Model Y is limited to 3500lb towing and 350lb hitch weight. I wish someone would figure out the upgrades required to make it 5000lb/500lb rated (is there also a way to make it officially legal?!).
Im sure I can tow a little more now
What is the air ride purpose?
Pretty cool !
How does it effect ride comfort ?
It is probably the most comfortable ride you can get when it comes to suspension
I’m also getting a clunk noise after my install. Coming from the rear. I’ve literally pulled everything apart and double check torque and all. Is that really normal? Love the videos. Keep it up🤙🏼 thank you.
Check the end links on the sway bar
Can you adjust height while the car is moving?
what is the primary purpose of modding the Y Performance to air suspension?
Because I can and it looks cool
@@i1Tesla ;) -
I am curious if it improves ride quality?
@@gokaruna If you want to improve ride quality go with the MPP comfort coilovers
@@Shiftheads Got it... and does that lower the car further? I am not looking at lowering the car.
@@gokaruna the coilovers are adjustable height. You can go higher than stock rode height or lower depending on what you want. A common approach is to do the mountain pass lift kit and the comfort coilovers for a higher but better ride than stock which allows for bigger tires as well
That's funny I live in ocala as well
What wheel size are you running
How would bags perform on trails etc? Or with large elevation changes ?
Air ride not really good for offroading. it doesn't respond fast enough o changes and also has the chance of punctures
What silencer did you use? I have a fridge in my Tesla and would like to get rid of the rattling
i would of installed the controller outside frunk area, if you ever need to service it and take the frunk out, you left yourself alot of work
Make sound deadening video
Got it dialed! Sweeet
Good evening, was your towing capability effected either in a negative or positive way?
Hey just want to say I love your videos 🙌 but I also do have some questions about the install. My question is what was the spacing you went with on the front to get your adjustment and what did you do in the rear. I tried asking the manufacturer but they seem to not really give an answer 😅😂 I did message you on IG as well thanks
I don't remember the spacing because I changed it after everything was finished. I made it so I can lift it higher and not lay on the ground when aired out because I have a carbon fiber body kit coming. But What I have fount out is you will need to adjust the spacing on how high or low you want the ride hight. You want he bags to be in the 990 PSI range to have a comfortable ride.
@@i1Teslanearly one thousand psi?!
I am amazed, and very disappointed, that you didn’t even mention a single word about ride quality. Wow.
I was just going over the setup. I have a video coming soon comparing air with coils
But how does it ride lol
did your kit come with a water trap?
yes
Hey Dave, great information bro. You really help others and I appreciate it. So I have been interested in these and was unsure for a while because I want more hight like I asked you before. Please tell me how much overall this would cost to do it like yours is set up, honestly I have many questions that I need help with. Thanks
Total kit from Airlift is 4200. But to go higher with air is not recommended. The more air you put in the bags the stiffer and bumpier the ride is. Go with MountainPass lift for a higher ride and only 500. www.mountainpassperformance.com/product/mpp-1-75-suspension-lift-kit/
I thought it was Brian
lol @ "my frunk's gotta lotta nuts"
This is a major engineering flaw in the entire Tesla vehicle formfactor and indeed "problem solved here" absolutely.
Great post.
But how will I impress bystanders by loading my frunk with groceries?
my 2 cents, run 2 compressors, less stress on the single vair
Next time, go with Michelin's...
No reason to go to 0psi????? 😳😳😳😳 Isn't the reason for air ride is to slam your ride on the pavement???
I think air ride is over rated and widely misunderstood. It makes good sense in applications where the load varies widely like a transport truck.
If you want a smooth ride for your cargo you will specify air ride. The issue is: a trailer will carry about 50,000 lbs. If it is sprung for that weight at 10,000 lbs it is way too stiff. Probably equivalent to no springs at all. So adjustable air ride is very useful because the load can vary widely. But in a car that weights 5000 lbs and has a much smaller load variation a fixed spring system works fine. Air after all is just a spring which you can adjust. I have had 2 model S cars with air and I can adjust the ride height about 2 inches. Big Deal! who cares, what does that do. They claim you can lower the car on the highway for better efficiency but the gain is negligible if any. If you think the car is cooler 2 inches lower then grow up get a life. I drove a spring model S once and didn't see a big difference. My first P85D was do punishly stiff that Tesla quietly replaced the entire suspension at no charge. My subsequent P100D was okay. My wife's model Y is okay but a little stiff. The notion that a car with air ride is smoother or better than well engineered springs is hard to prove. The 3 & Y succeed nicely without it. Changing tire pressure will have a bigger effect. The increased cost and complexity is substantial as you demonstrate. I wouldn't give up my frunk to have it.
NOT At all worth it