@@jeanmcginnis9804 and shceana is still acting like a high schooler lol, and her voice makes im sure 90 percent of vieewers bash their heads into a wall, so you i disagree with you jean
My husband has got mad at me for watching this show cuz he will say “what are u watching!!! Please turn it off I can’t handle those womens screeching” lol I don’t blame him, I have to turn the volume down when the screechers are schreeching . U know what’s really funny, is I got him to watch the show with me for a while… hearing a man like my husbands perspective on this show cracks me up. My husband is a lumber Jack beefy manly man who works on massive machinery all day welding….he is complete opposites of these people but it’s hilarious to see him actually watching the show. He doesn’t keep up with the full storyline but he enjoys seeing them cuz it’s like watching a different species
Amen. We aren't blowing in the wind like leaves. We are standing up for something, because we know what's right, no matter what editors show us. Sorry, editors, but your very deceptive, and the kiddos can't see through your crap.
Maybe that is her truth and Tom has been around for years and Ariana also . Dont have to like the actions of your friend but your love and loyalty and compassion makes a friend to the end. Scheana loves from the heart and knows what they were going threw. Ariana drew a line either me or him. What real friend would you be if you turned on another friend because they say so. That is NO friend just a follower. Tom never asked anyone to pick a side did he!!
@@jacquelinevwarren905 We don’t live by those archaic rules anymore. We don’t guilt ourselves or others into accepting the unacceptable. We no longer shame people into forgiving things that are unforgivable. When someone continually shows you who they are, BELIEVE them. Scheana is one of those people, and so is Lala.
So she’s always the victim. Apparently you guys eyes on this woman I was up to her shit down she owns up to everything she has done and hasn’t done something that is true losses will never do like Tom Sandoval he will own up to anything.
@@MsNekaa26 when did she own up to it because all I heard her do was denying that she’s choosing Tom side while choosing Tom side over and over again all season every conversation she had with Ariana this season was trying to convince Ariana. She needs to forgive Tom. Tom himself isn’t even sorry but it’s Ariana‘s responsibility to forgive him like he is to make him look better to the audience? It’s gross
Lala speaks from a place of authority on nearly everything. It’s really cringe and kind of shows how unaware she is. Also, I’m not gonna lie Bravo continuing to play clips of her over and over again bragging about being a sugar baby with the whole role-play and Emmett. They’re not doing her any favors 😒 I think Charlie was bang on when she said that she needs to take the L on this one. The Golddigger found out it was fools gold and nobody cares next 🎉
So, according to Lala and Scheana, Ariana should carry the season, make sure she is providing job security for them so they can raise their children, AND control the social media narrative around Scheana anytime Scheana does something stupid regarding Sandoval? Ok, got it, makes perfect sense......................
@@tracim3080 yes, they do. As a person who feels the need to explain why I did something or why I chose to do x instead of y, I completely understand the explaining-because others believe (in other words, their ASSUMPTIONS) are not why I did what I did or said what I said. Leaving my explanation unspoken has proven to bite me in the azz; therefore, you now know (from the horses mouth so to speak) the ‘why’ behind it. Now, if words don’t match behavior that’s a completely different thing than explaining for understanding.
@@mickyo7171 OK I’m not sure how to explain this to you because you clearly don’t understand what actions speaking louder then words really means I’m gonna go with James example in the after show here we see how Sheena tells us what she was thinking about when it came to her decision to go to that party at Tom Sandoval’s hotel room and then we see what James was thinking about. James thought process was he knows Tom he knows why Tom’s doing this. He put in that thought and consideration, and he set a stance for himself on that’s enough of a reason for me not to go. Versus Sheena, Who was thinking about she was gonna go to that party and just think about everybody else there because she wants to have fun and she’s just not gonna have a standard for who else is going to be at this party as long as she got to have fun and try to spin it in. She was going to give Sandoval a talking to you even though all season we see she always ends up apologizing to Tom. She never holds Tom accountable. She buys every fake tear that man gives Her. So now we know, James has a higher moral standard than Sheena, because it doesn’t even occur to Sheena to set one or think about one The more she explains the more she needs to explain because her actions are telling us very different things than her words because her words are she loves Tom but she knows he did something horrible and she doesn’t want to put Ariana in awkward positions but then she proceeds to constantly put Ariana in the awkward position and constantly make Tom out to be a victim Sometimes you don’t even know what your actions are really saying or what you really believe because in your head you think you’re doing the right thing but then when you’re looking at your actions, they don’t really line up with what’s in your head but you can’t admit that to yourself, but your friends can see it plain as day It’s a push comes to shove type of situation. Sheena had to choose between Tom and Ariana. That’s just reality she was in that position. She had to make choices and every choice she made was with Tom. She picks Tom every time. So she can tell us she’s team Ariana all she wants but we saw with her actions. Her instinct is to go with Tom so that’s where her alliance really is whether she can admit that to herself or not
Right what’s 30 year old says “my intentions were good shouldn’t that matter” That’s children. Children need to have good intentions, and figure out how to get from good intentions to go to actions at 38 I Expect you to understand how to back up your good intentions into good actions. 😂
Why because they are emotional, compassionate and forgiving. That is a good person not those who bring drama, division and control to people. Get over it
Scheana is always expecting people to be like “she’s such a good loyal friend” when’s she’s being neither loyal or a friend. Real friends don’t need to validate you 24/7, and on socials at that. Like that’s fake. And Ariana isn’t fake. Scheana is someone who will meet someone for an hour and post a 2 page monologue on socials if they died talking about how she was such a good friend to that person😂
Lala thinks Katie goes so low its friendship breaking… ummm Lala you’re the one dragging conversations in confidence between your so called friend on to camera. Lala, it’s you that’s shown how low you can go & Katie who has proven that she is loyal.
And asking Ariana to defend her "intentions" because she should know that Scheana "went there for a good reason." Girl, even in this interview you said it was because you wanted to continue to party. Clearly whatever conversation she (maybe) had with Sandoval was an afterthought. If you're going to lie, at least commit.
@@jeanmcginnis9804 he has more morals and standards, then Sheena, who decided to have none I didn’t say he has a high bar I said he’s actually willing to start setting one. That’s the lesson James seems to have learned by seeing these 40-year-old men act like losers is that when he gets to 40 he needs to be better than that.
The most honest thing Scheana has ever said is how she believes people don't like her as much as Ariana. She is a pick me girl who seeks male validation and is willing to throw other women under the bus to get it. If she wants to understand why people don't like her, then that is the reason. It would be more self-aware to recognize how it begins and ends with her predictable pattern of behaviour.
Lala constantly using her children as an excuse for her behaviour, as a reason to not be held accountable, and as an entitled double standard, believing that her life is more valuable…is truly disturbing to watch. 🤬 It is not healthy for children, to be constantly used as pawns to elevate the parent’s status and feelings of self-importance. Fortunately, Lala is unable to show her daughter on the show…and hopefully she will never be on reality tv again, so her new baby won’t be thrown in front of the camera, as a way to boost her ego.
3:26... the amount of times Bravo uses this to (what seems to me) put Ariana in her place is hilarious to me. She literally has made a choice for herself to respect a boundary that she set. Somehow Bravo is vilifying that to mean she's telling others to not be friends with him. 🙄🙄
Exactly! Plus those takes were so soon after the affair broke out she's allowed to feel that way and then change her feelings regarding that as we have seen she's still talks to Schwartz and James. The thing Scheana or Lala don't seem to grasp is they keep bringing Ariana into this going to her about how much you miss her ex or telling her u spoke to him about her is weird and annoying
I also loved when Ariana said she doesn’t get angry often and the producers dug through all the seasons to find the only 3 times she got angry! And one was the conversation with Tom! They really be tryna do her dirty.
@jeanmcginnis9804 not true she always said ppl can do what they want to do and she need to do what's best for her that's always been her creating boundaries for herself
@@mzzthang3912 At the very least Ariana was asking her friends not to talk to Tom about what’s going on with her, and for them not to talk about Tom to her - such a simple request that flew straight over most of their heads.
Lala saying she would never disrespect Katie after she just called her Ariana’s bobblehead and accused katie of not being authentic on camera (which has gotten many Bravo people fired when they are actually inauthentic on camera and people start to catch on) is so shocking and she actually believes it 😳
ariana never once said “choose me or we aren’t friends anymore!! 😡😤🖕🏻 you better choose me! it’s me or him!! me or him!!” she calmly, politely, and respectfully said “if this is the choice you are going to make for yourself and i respect it, then this is the choice i will have to make for myself and i would hope you respect it too” it’s two completely tones and delivery. it’s called actions and consequences. the consequence of the action of being tom’s friend is, unfortunately, ariana does not want to be around tom or anyone affiliated with tom. she never threw a fit that people chose tom over her or demanded they chose her, she just let them know what would happen if that’s the decision they went with. now they’re mad she followed through with what she told them would happen? make it make sense
Sheanas jealousy just showed so hard in the first 13 seconds of this clip. Her and Blah Blah are just so vile this season. But damn, I am loving James this season!
@@jeanmcginnis9804bullying and telling someone why you don’t like them are not the same thing. Yall have got to stop over using it, that’s why it doesn’t hold the weight it should
@@2mis2TL86 It holds weight for me! Katie bullied that poor girl,called her a “crackhead,psycho,she’s sloppy,dirty,needs to shower,she’ll light her on fire” etc. That’s Not telling someone WHY you don’t like them,that’s name calling and attacking them personably.Katie’s a poor example of a humane being and an overgrown BULLY!
Scheana bringing that up is so lame. Scheana turned her back on Ariana throughout the series anytime the cool girls wanted to be friends with her. Scheana is embarrassing.
Scheana stop making excuses for yourself for not being able to stay away from Tom Sandoval your desperate to get him back in your life we all see right through you girl
So it’s wrong she wants to be friends with her old friend? The one that tried to always include her when everyone else was mean to her. Everyone here only watching one season? Come on. Ariana trying to be a martyr? The hell.
@@Gumamelalove he included her in a photo 12 years ago. That does not give him a pass to go and hurt her friends now. The people you associate with or a reflection of who you are, so if she’s desperate to be Tom Sandoval‘s friend, then she can’t be that great of a person, and Ariana can’t mean very much to her even though Ariana is the one Sheena herself says, is actually there for her on the emotional level Tom will buy things and he will party with you but his relationships are shallow. That is all there is to it.
Jealous of WHAT?!🤣Ariana was desperate for a friend and said herself that” Katie hasn’t changed in 11 seasons” 🤔and all Ariana did in past seasons was hate on Katie bc Katie is mean and a bully but now their buds? Sounds like a flip flopper and fakery to me.
@@jeanmcginnis9804jealous that Ariana received so much support. Nobody felt pitty for Lauren because she knew Randall was still living with his wife and was not divorced. During that time Lauren used to brag how other women’s men want her. Laurens pissed the gold digger thing blew up in her face. Now she’s desperately trying to rebrand and “be soft” ha reminds me of the men who say “I’m an alpha male” 🙄
JEALOUS why would they be jealous they are all beautiful and talented. I proud how those two love their babies and they would not give being a mother for a spot light. Part of growing up is learning to take the good with the bad. And knowing the differance and that is LaLa and Scheana. Compassion forgiveness understanding that everyone is the same and admitting your wrong pick yourself up and go on. Ariana doesnt want that she wants pitty that is not good it is like cancer it will grow and she will not be happy until she can forgive.
The problem with Scheana, and why people get so frustrated and mad at her, is she lives in the comments section. She doesn’t do what she wants…she tries to be the “person” she THINKS people want her to be. Scheana…just be you. Be authentic even if it pisses people off. Stop trying to walk the fence and stand in the middle.
It could have been worse, they could have booed you and asked why are you here? No one wants you here. Like they did to Sandoval. Always about Scheana.
Omfg when is anyone gonna call Ariana out on the fact she did say over and over again no I won’t stay friends with mutual friends, then says nope never said it .-then deny why Sheena is upset -you either love Sheena or not - Ariana great u got success but stop being a sanctimonious Katie POS because that’s how you read!
She never told anyone they can’t be friends w/ Sandoval- she said she wasn’t willing to be friends w/any1 who chooses to have Sandoval as a friend. What you, and many other people seem to be forgetting is that Ariana never asked any of these ppl to say they were Team Ariana or to say that they would never be friends or never hang out with or never film w/Sandoval again. Scheana & Lala said that on their own, they got a whole lot of public support for trashing Sandoval and being Ariana’s ride or die besties. And that was very much their position in the first few episodes of S11. At Emo night, Scheana even says to Swartz you missed out on the fun, that’s what happens when you choose to hang out w/ Sandoval instead of the group. The first two episodes Lala and Scheana are going in on Swartz telling him he’s an idiot for giving Sandoval a 2md chance. And then Sandoval goes and whines to LVP & Production after Rachel doesnt come back and he has to film his lame bday party w/ only his Billie & his paid entourage- and Lala and Scheana got their marching orders to film w/Sandoval and instead of holding him accountable they tried to get Ariana to co-sign them moving past his fckery & she said no. Even then, Ariana finally gave Scheana what she wanted and told her she wasn’t going to make her choose, just leave her the fck out of it. Bcuz she knew exactly what he was up to - he didn’t have a storyline w/out her and he was trying to paint her as the bad guy, and trying to get any one else to agree, so that the audience would stop focusing on him & turn on Ariana. It’s what he’s ALWAYS done! And she was right, 5 min after she left he had a rage fest and told the rest of cast she didn’t like them and she’s lazy blah blah. Scheana and Lala could have turned around and called Sandoval out on his BS, they could have pointed out that he obvi wasn’t sorry, that Ariana had no reason to believe he was, that he was manipulative and lying and why the fck should they believe him - and it could have been another hero moment for Scheana just like the couch convo last yr. Instead we have this. Scheana wants to have it both ways, she doesn’t like the consequences of her choices. Lala is grasping at straws and back-tracking to justify her own hypocrisy.
Scheana has said several times now that Ariana could make one comment and solve a lot of the issues happening for her. But why is that Ariana’s responsibility? Maybe Scheana should stop saying and doing things that needs to later be addressed or clarified by Ariana.
Why are all the after show questions about the girls fighting? And how awful Katie is? And how rude Lala and Ariana are? How shallow Scheana is? Why distracting from how awful Sandoval is - constantly trash talking and blaming the woman that HE cheated on for a year (probably longer) and yelling at his "friends".
The sad thing is when Lala finds out just how bad the audience despises her n doesn’t want her on our tv ever again she’s gonna sit n blame Ariana for that too.
I can’t stand Ariana get over it your a bully not to mention you should be thankful for all the publicity and money she’s getting now. Katie is a bully as well she her and Ariana are perfect friends for each other
Honestly this whole cast is iconic and the messiness is the thing I look forward to the most each week. I have so many opinions and also the chaotic dynamics of each person with the others makes this show what it is. We need another season 👏 let’s go bravo
They’re too old for that kind of messy They’re at the age now we’re supposed to see them grow adapt set some boundaries and have funny failures like now you’re experiencing hangovers the way you might not have experienced them in your early 20s now you kind of want to go to bed early and that’s kind of funny to us after seeing you party hard in your early 20s They’re in their 40s or getting to their 40s I want to see that kind of drama I don’t need to see 40 year olds act like they’re 20 that’s not entertainment that’s just sad Especially since they had a legit drama, that people could relate to this year, like having to settle the dust after one of your friends drops a bomb in your friend group is something a lot of adults can relate to Having to pick sides in your friends is something you have to do as an adult and they’re hard choices to make and that is real emotion and entertainment for us to watch Instead, they tried to act like it wasn’t a big deal, downplay it and make it look like Ariana’s just being a drama queen like we’re not in high school we’re aware you’re not a drama queen if you have emotions being someone does something awful to you What would’ve made great television is seeing these adults behave like adults and have to draw these hard lines for the first time in their lives
Unpopular Opinion: I hope lala and Katie can get to a better place as friends. I actually really loved them together. But I think it's hard because they're in different life stages as Katie mentioned.
Because there’s a difference she didn’t create this divide Tom did Tom did something that created this divide everybody else had to pick a side that’s just life that’s adulthood sometimes you’re in positions where you have to make a choice and not making a choice is still a choice All Ariana was saying was that it’s up to you what choice you make but you are making a choice and I’m going to be reacting to that choice Sometimes life makes you do that and it sucks but the choices you make define you.
No one is required to be friends with anyone else. She's made it very clear she won't be friends with someone who would be friends with Sandoval, and if someone chooses him over her, then they've made that bed
@@tracim3080 nah, sorry, that's something that doesn't need saying. Obviously, she can and should feel that way, but you don't say that to your friends. You just let them make the decision and act accordingly. Her doing that is weird. It's giving ego.
@@lovethatdirtywater78 Obviously, she can and should feel that way, but you don't say that to your friends. You just let them make the decision and act accordingly. Her doing that is weird. It's giving ego.
@@TheOneandOnlyD-R-E but it did need to be said did you not pay attention? And she was acting accordingly, but she was upfront and make sure her friends knew why she would be pulling away when they made that decision. That’s what decent people do.
What's Scheana's excuse for getting in the middle of Ariana's family business. Posting your " Back Up Dancers " brother when they had a falling out is another knife in the back. For someone who has all these "Bas Fronz"... she is a friend to none!
it’s so funny to me that Ariana is saying she never made any ultimatum, but she quite literally has and there’s like video proof and all of these Ariana fans never mention that. And I love how all of these comments are about Lala and Sheena. You hate them so much but they are running through your mind like crazy obviously if you’re commenting about them that much.
I know this isn’t popular but not loving Ariana. I don’t know what it is. I mean she was with Sandoval all those years of him treating women crappy. Yelling at Katie and Lala and she didn’t stop it. And she is clearly not over him. She not broke up with him because of Scandoval.
Scheana’s fake lil clap back about never missing an after party -makes me cringe so bad, it’s always so obvious how insecure she is to the point that it’s uncomfortable for the audience!
Blah Blah dressed like the Producers Jester. Scheana is her own person. She had great conversations with scumdoval. I don't see why she is getting the hate. It is still a show where they get paid.
1:50 proves Lalas point about Scheanaover explaining herself that it literally makes her look dumb, like nobody cares you pulled him aside and talked to him it doesn’t make you look any better
Katie has some nerve! She says something about not hanging with a sucky person, but, I’d be bored to tears and angry every day being friends with her. Tom is a cheater! He should never be in a real relationship! I guarantee he cheated on Arianna for years. Tom is also loving, generous, kind, and most of the time fair. He’s giving to his friends, thoughtful to them. He’s a better person than Katie seems to be. Even with his cheating! If I was to pick one, I’d pick him as friend. Not a partner in life.
Yeah Arianna, you and Katie, have really ,put your case across about friendship ,if your friends with tom ,your not mine,so don't say you don't say that,replay the series ,omg ,move on ,over the bullshit with scandoval ,peeps get cheated on all the time ,but this is too much to keep going ,it's old news ,move on ,let go ,be a better person, kind and respectful ,which you and Katie are not ...truth
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James seemed so tired of those girls and I can 100% understand😂 Scheana’s voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
😂 she's always whining she's a victim poor me poor me
James mouth and temper are still vulgar,I’d rather hear Scheana.😆
@@jeanmcginnis9804 and shceana is still acting like a high schooler lol, and her voice makes im sure 90 percent of vieewers bash their heads into a wall, so you i disagree with you jean
My husband has got mad at me for watching this show cuz he will say “what are u watching!!! Please turn it off I can’t handle those womens screeching” lol I don’t blame him, I have to turn the volume down when the screechers are schreeching . U know what’s really funny, is I got him to watch the show with me for a while… hearing a man like my husbands perspective on this show cracks me up. My husband is a lumber Jack beefy manly man who works on massive machinery all day welding….he is complete opposites of these people but it’s hilarious to see him actually watching the show. He doesn’t keep up with the full storyline but he enjoys seeing them cuz it’s like watching a different species
@@itelluwut4535 Mine stops and looks ,then talks about all the lip fillers and botox….especially RHNJ! 😆
When you stand for nothing you fall for everything
Teaaa
Amen. We aren't blowing in the wind like leaves. We are standing up for something, because we know what's right, no matter what editors show us. Sorry, editors, but your very deceptive, and the kiddos can't see through your crap.
It her own fault
Hamilton
Live in your truth 👏👏👏. A friend to all, is a friend to none 👌
Maybe that is her truth and Tom has been around for years and Ariana also . Dont have to like the actions of your friend but your love and loyalty and compassion makes a friend to the end. Scheana loves from the heart and knows what they were going threw. Ariana drew a line either me or him. What real friend would you be if you turned on another friend because they say so. That is NO friend just a follower. Tom never asked anyone to pick a side did he!!
@@jacquelinevwarren905 We don’t live by those archaic rules anymore. We don’t guilt ourselves or others into accepting the unacceptable. We no longer shame people into forgiving things that are unforgivable. When someone continually shows you who they are, BELIEVE them. Scheana is one of those people, and so is Lala.
scheana is such a professional victim
Narcissitic
My God, she really is
So she’s always the victim. Apparently you guys eyes on this woman I was up to her shit down she owns up to everything she has done and hasn’t done something that is true losses will never do like Tom Sandoval he will own up to anything.
@@MsNekaa26 huh?
@@MsNekaa26 when did she own up to it because all I heard her do was denying that she’s choosing Tom side while choosing Tom side over and over again all season
every conversation she had with Ariana this season was trying to convince Ariana. She needs to forgive Tom.
Tom himself isn’t even sorry but it’s Ariana‘s responsibility to forgive him like he is to make him look better to the audience?
It’s gross
Ok Lala trying to explain to Scheana how to be likable is AMAZING
Was she wrong though? Lmao
It so
The blind leading the blind😒. Just keep those two off The Valley please. I need a long break from them.
She was telling her to stop explaining so much and just say fuck you to the audience cause it's your life not theirs
Lala speaks from a place of authority on nearly everything. It’s really cringe and kind of shows how unaware she is. Also, I’m not gonna lie Bravo continuing to play clips of her over and over again bragging about being a sugar baby with the whole role-play and Emmett. They’re not doing her any favors 😒 I think Charlie was bang on when she said that she needs to take the L on this one. The Golddigger found out it was fools gold and nobody cares next 🎉
So, according to Lala and Scheana, Ariana should carry the season, make sure she is providing job security for them so they can raise their children, AND control the social media narrative around Scheana anytime Scheana does something stupid regarding Sandoval? Ok, got it, makes perfect sense......................
Its mind blowing 🤯
“I move to Vegas and come back, your best friends with Stassi” OMG Scheana you are exhausting
The girl is still butt hurt over Stassi 😂
😂😅🤮
The reason Scheana is “over explaining” is because she knows she’s wrong.
I disagree. She feels that she always has to explain ‘why’ because others have ASSUMED they thought they knew when they did not.
Exactly, she's trying to justify her shity actions
@@mickyo7171 Actions speak louder than words
@@tracim3080 yes, they do. As a person who feels the need to explain why I did something or why I chose to do x instead of y, I completely understand the explaining-because others believe (in other words, their ASSUMPTIONS) are not why I did what I did or said what I said. Leaving my explanation unspoken has proven to bite me in the azz; therefore, you now know (from the horses mouth so to speak) the ‘why’ behind it. Now, if words don’t match behavior that’s a completely different thing than explaining for understanding.
@@mickyo7171 OK I’m not sure how to explain this to you because you clearly don’t understand what actions speaking louder then words really means
I’m gonna go with James example in the after show here we see how Sheena tells us what she was thinking about when it came to her decision to go to that party at Tom Sandoval’s hotel room and then we see what James was thinking about.
James thought process was he knows Tom he knows why Tom’s doing this. He put in that thought and consideration, and he set a stance for himself on that’s enough of a reason for me not to go.
Versus
Sheena, Who was thinking about she was gonna go to that party and just think about everybody else there because she wants to have fun and she’s just not gonna have a standard for who else is going to be at this party as long as she got to have fun and try to spin it in. She was going to give Sandoval a talking to you even though all season we see she always ends up apologizing to Tom. She never holds Tom accountable. She buys every fake tear that man gives Her.
So now we know, James has a higher moral standard than Sheena, because it doesn’t even occur to Sheena to set one or think about one
The more she explains the more she needs to explain because her actions are telling us very different things than her words because her words are she loves Tom but she knows he did something horrible and she doesn’t want to put Ariana in awkward positions but then she proceeds to constantly put Ariana in the awkward position and constantly make Tom out to be a victim
Sometimes you don’t even know what your actions are really saying or what you really believe because in your head you think you’re doing the right thing but then when you’re looking at your actions, they don’t really line up with what’s in your head but you can’t admit that to yourself, but your friends can see it plain as day
It’s a push comes to shove type of situation. Sheena had to choose between Tom and Ariana. That’s just reality she was in that position. She had to make choices and every choice she made was with Tom. She picks Tom every time.
So she can tell us she’s team Ariana all she wants but we saw with her actions. Her instinct is to go with Tom so that’s where her alliance really is whether she can admit that to herself or not
The way James takes every chance he can to drag Sandoval 😭😭💀💀💀💀
Commendable truly
It’s tacky,immature and gross.
@@jeanmcginnis9804Yes, just like Scumdoval. It’s all he deserves.
Scheana and Lala making excuses for their behavior constantly, it's like listening to a kid explain why they shouldn't be in trouble
Right what’s 30 year old says “my intentions were good shouldn’t that matter”
That’s children. Children need to have good intentions, and figure out how to get from good intentions to go to actions at 38 I Expect you to understand how to back up your good intentions into good actions. 😂
It’s like that meme “just 2 dumb broads staring at each other telling each other ‘eXaCtLY….’” iykyk lol
Yeah
It’s not “excuses” ,what they said was correct,FACTS!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Why because they are emotional, compassionate and forgiving. That is a good person not those who bring drama, division and control to people. Get over it
It's scary how James is the voice of reason. Just sayin'!
Sobriety is a good fit for him. He isn’t a dry drunk like Lala.
Maturity and sobriety have been the best things for him. It’s been incredible to watch his growth over the years.
@@jennifer6833 agreed
Scheana is always expecting people to be like “she’s such a good loyal friend” when’s she’s being neither loyal or a friend.
Real friends don’t need to validate you 24/7, and on socials at that. Like that’s fake. And Ariana isn’t fake.
Scheana is someone who will meet someone for an hour and post a 2 page monologue on socials if they died talking about how she was such a good friend to that person😂
Now that’s funny! 😂😅🤣
Im so sick of lala thinking she wayyyyy more important than she is 🙄
But she’s creating life over here 🤪
Lala thinks Katie goes so low its friendship breaking… ummm Lala you’re the one dragging conversations in confidence between your so called friend on to camera.
Lala, it’s you that’s shown how low you can go & Katie who has proven that she is loyal.
I’ll take Lala over that gross bully,Katie ANY day!
James wasn’t just sneezing - he’s allergic to Scheanna’s bullshit.
James: “freaks me out I don’t even want to drink a $1000 bottle of water”
🤣🤣🤣
Scheana spinning that she went to Sandovals room to put him in his place is laughable
Right like girl you went for a party because you just didn’t think or care
And asking Ariana to defend her "intentions" because she should know that Scheana "went there for a good reason." Girl, even in this interview you said it was because you wanted to continue to party. Clearly whatever conversation she (maybe) had with Sandoval was an afterthought. If you're going to lie, at least commit.
Sceemer just doesn’t get it, does she? And she never will while she is ‘bast frans’ with Liebrows.
Jax’s reaction to the “Water Tasting” was the same as all of America 😂
Sheena you’re too old for good intentions to be all you need
What do you know what makes a real friend?
@@jacquelinevwarren905 she is definitely not a real friend, she tries to be everyones friend clearly, and it just doesnt work like that.
James you are the best 😂 just pointing out you have standards and morals and Sheena was just looking to party not giving a shit 😂
yet Scheana is trying to sell that she went to Tom's penthouse for the pure intention of defending her honor. Lol what a joke
James is still hurting , over Rachel
James has morals and standards?!🤣😂🤣😂
@@jeanmcginnis9804 he has more morals and standards, then Sheena, who decided to have none
I didn’t say he has a high bar I said he’s actually willing to start setting one. That’s the lesson James seems to have learned by seeing these 40-year-old men act like losers is that when he gets to 40 he needs to be better than that.
@@tracim3080 He’s old enough to learn by now to control that temper and the disgusting things that come out of his mouth.
The most honest thing Scheana has ever said is how she believes people don't like her as much as Ariana. She is a pick me girl who seeks male validation and is willing to throw other women under the bus to get it. If she wants to understand why people don't like her, then that is the reason. It would be more self-aware to recognize how it begins and ends with her predictable pattern of behaviour.
SCHENA stand on your own business!!!! Period! Dont blame Ariana!
Scheana expects the universe to revolve around her and her drama and is so upset at people when they don’t make it happen
Accurate. Ariana was always background and willing to let her shine and Scheana is losing her mind that Ariana is now in front.
Omg you're delusional 😂
Scheana? I think u ment to say Katie 🤣
Lala constantly using her children as an excuse for her behaviour, as a reason to not be held accountable, and as an entitled double standard, believing that her life is more valuable…is truly disturbing to watch. 🤬
It is not healthy for children, to be constantly used as pawns to elevate the parent’s status and feelings of self-importance. Fortunately, Lala is unable to show her daughter on the show…and hopefully she will never be on reality tv again, so her new baby won’t be thrown in front of the camera, as a way to boost her ego.
Her new daughter will be front and centre at all times. She has no shame and no decorum.
“I’m very misunderstood” no we understand you, Scheana. that’s why we don’t fall for every move you make to be likable.
3:26... the amount of times Bravo uses this to (what seems to me) put Ariana in her place is hilarious to me. She literally has made a choice for herself to respect a boundary that she set. Somehow Bravo is vilifying that to mean she's telling others to not be friends with him. 🙄🙄
Exactly! Plus those takes were so soon after the affair broke out she's allowed to feel that way and then change her feelings regarding that as we have seen she's still talks to Schwartz and James. The thing Scheana or Lala don't seem to grasp is they keep bringing Ariana into this going to her about how much you miss her ex or telling her u spoke to him about her is weird and annoying
I also loved when Ariana said she doesn’t get angry often and the producers dug through all the seasons to find the only 3 times she got angry! And one was the conversation with Tom! They really be tryna do her dirty.
Well,Ariana did originally give her grown castmates an ultimatum,her or Tom but it didn’t work so she then changed it to her “ boundaries .”😆
@jeanmcginnis9804 not true she always said ppl can do what they want to do and she need to do what's best for her that's always been her creating boundaries for herself
@@mzzthang3912 At the very least Ariana was asking her friends not to talk to Tom about what’s going on with her, and for them not to talk about Tom to her - such a simple request that flew straight over most of their heads.
Tom made the divide the rest of them just had to deal with the aftermath. It’s their choice don’t put it on her.
So succinctly put
Thank you that is right
talking about water...yeah lala really carried the season.
Lala saying she would never disrespect Katie after she just called her Ariana’s bobblehead and accused katie of not being authentic on camera (which has gotten many Bravo people fired when they are actually inauthentic on camera and people start to catch on) is so shocking and she actually believes it 😳
Saying u can't be friends with someone and saying if you're going to be friends with this person we will no longer be friends are 2 different things
Tom is a liability so she has to put herself first regardless of who tags along.
Mmm no they aren't
ariana never once said “choose me or we aren’t friends anymore!! 😡😤🖕🏻 you better choose me! it’s me or him!! me or him!!” she calmly, politely, and respectfully said “if this is the choice you are going to make for yourself and i respect it, then this is the choice i will have to make for myself and i would hope you respect it too” it’s two completely tones and delivery. it’s called actions and consequences. the consequence of the action of being tom’s friend is, unfortunately, ariana does not want to be around tom or anyone affiliated with tom. she never threw a fit that people chose tom over her or demanded they chose her, she just let them know what would happen if that’s the decision they went with. now they’re mad she followed through with what she told them would happen? make it make sense
Why don't producers bring up the clip where she says she wont be friends him again you ain't gonna be their friend???????????
Scheana over explaining why she over explains is peak Scheana.
I’m so tired of Scheana making everything about her. It’s exhausting.
Sheanas jealousy just showed so hard in the first 13 seconds of this clip. Her and Blah Blah are just so vile this season. But damn, I am loving James this season!
Ariana w the vine reference 😂 6:18
At the reunion when Joe said to Andy to set her up with John Mayer - Scheana (who is sitting next to her husband) said "Been there, done that". Bleh!
Lala acting like she could never go as low as Katie 🙄
Katie has always been mean and a bully! Then she doubles down on how she bullied Joe…no apology,no remorse,no accountability….she disgusting!
@@jeanmcginnis9804bullying and telling someone why you don’t like them are not the same thing. Yall have got to stop over using it, that’s why it doesn’t hold the weight it should
@@2mis2TL86 It holds weight for me! Katie bullied that poor girl,called her a “crackhead,psycho,she’s sloppy,dirty,needs to shower,she’ll light her on fire” etc. That’s Not telling someone WHY you don’t like them,that’s name calling and attacking them personably.Katie’s a poor example of a humane being and an overgrown BULLY!
@@2mis2TL86 UA-cam censorship!
4:38 looks like James is allergic to bulls**t 🤣
Glad Ariana lived in her truth. She gave no quarter but still said she loved sheaner and blah bla. They look ridiculous.
I wish Scheana would just tell Ariaña that she felt betrayed when she got cool w/ Stassi
Scheana bringing that up is so lame. Scheana turned her back on Ariana throughout the series anytime the cool girls wanted to be friends with her. Scheana is embarrassing.
Katie NEVER seems happy.
I just want to say too, Ariana constantly had Scheanas back throughout the series. And did so at the detriment to herself, so that sh*t pisses me off.
Please mock the water tasting event some more, its one of the lamest events I've seen on a VPR
But Lala "carried the season" 😂
Lala: Scheana, it's because you over-explain
Scheana: Over-explains
Scheana stop making excuses for yourself for not being able to stay away from Tom Sandoval your desperate to get him back in your life we all see right through you girl
So it’s wrong she wants to be friends with her old friend? The one that tried to always include her when everyone else was mean to her. Everyone here only watching one season? Come on. Ariana trying to be a martyr? The hell.
@@Gumamelalove She admitted last week Sandoval stopped talking.
@@Gumamelalove he included her in a photo 12 years ago. That does not give him a pass to go and hurt her friends now.
The people you associate with or a reflection of who you are, so if she’s desperate to be Tom Sandoval‘s friend, then she can’t be that great of a person, and Ariana can’t mean very much to her even though Ariana is the one Sheena herself says, is actually there for her on the emotional level
Tom will buy things and he will party with you but his relationships are shallow. That is all there is to it.
@@Gumamelalove🎯👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Tom has a big heart and has been in her life from the start and listen Brock also sees Tom is real so check it No body is better then anyone
Scheana made a bad decision because she wanted to party.
Ariana doesn’t owe Scheana a damn thing.
Lala and sheana jealous of ariana period..
Jealous of WHAT?!🤣Ariana was desperate for a friend and said herself that” Katie hasn’t changed in 11 seasons” 🤔and all Ariana did in past seasons was hate on Katie bc Katie is mean and a bully but now their buds? Sounds like a flip flopper and fakery to me.
@@jeanmcginnis9804jealous that Ariana received so much support. Nobody felt pitty for Lauren because she knew Randall was still living with his wife and was not divorced. During that time Lauren used to brag how other women’s men want her. Laurens pissed the gold digger thing blew up in her face. Now she’s desperately trying to rebrand and “be soft” ha reminds me of the men who say “I’m an alpha male” 🙄
JEALOUS why would they be jealous they are all beautiful and talented. I proud how those two love their babies and they would not give being a mother for a spot light. Part of growing up is learning to take the good with the bad. And knowing the differance and that is LaLa and Scheana. Compassion forgiveness understanding that everyone is the same and admitting your wrong pick yourself up and go on. Ariana doesnt want that she wants pitty that is not good it is like cancer it will grow and she will not be happy until she can forgive.
@@jacquelinevwarren905 I couldn’t have said it better!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
James sneezing... he's allergic to their bs lol
“Some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions”
-Ian Malcom from Jurassic Park
So Ariana did tell people not to be friends with Tom or they couldnt be friends with her.. which is fine. But why lie about it. The clips show it.
In all fairness she probably didn't remember
I think she was in a rage when she said that & didn’t really mean it that way.
poor scheana...always the victim...get over yourself girl
Over Lala and Scheana they have to go and Katie and Ariana should get a spin off with stassie
No one would watch seriously
@@evas9735🤣You got that right!🎯
The problem with Scheana, and why people get so frustrated and mad at her, is she lives in the comments section. She doesn’t do what she wants…she tries to be the “person” she THINKS people want her to be.
Scheana…just be you. Be authentic even if it pisses people off. Stop trying to walk the fence and stand in the middle.
It could have been worse, they could have booed you and asked why are you here? No one wants you here. Like they did to Sandoval. Always about Scheana.
Catty comment
How evil
Live in your truth ❤
i can’t with LaLa calling Katie “homie” girl pls 😭😭😭😭
Omfg when is anyone gonna call Ariana out on the fact she did say over and over again no I won’t stay friends with mutual friends, then says nope never said it .-then deny why Sheena is upset -you either love Sheena or not - Ariana great u got success but stop being a sanctimonious Katie POS because that’s how you read!
She never told anyone they can’t be friends w/ Sandoval- she said she wasn’t willing to be friends w/any1 who chooses to have Sandoval as a friend.
What you, and many other people seem to be forgetting is that Ariana never asked any of these ppl to say they were Team Ariana or to say that they would never be friends or never hang out with or never film w/Sandoval again.
Scheana & Lala said that on their own, they got a whole lot of public support for trashing Sandoval and being Ariana’s ride or die besties.
And that was very much their position in the first few episodes of S11. At Emo night, Scheana even says to Swartz you missed out on the fun, that’s what happens when you choose to hang out w/ Sandoval instead of the group.
The first two episodes Lala and Scheana are going in on Swartz telling him he’s an idiot for giving Sandoval a 2md chance.
And then Sandoval goes and whines to LVP & Production after Rachel doesnt come back and he has to film his lame bday party w/ only his Billie & his paid entourage- and Lala and Scheana got their marching orders to film w/Sandoval and instead of holding him accountable they tried to get Ariana to co-sign them moving past his fckery & she said no.
Even then, Ariana finally gave Scheana what she wanted and told her she wasn’t going to make her choose, just leave her the fck out of it.
Bcuz she knew exactly what he was up to - he didn’t have a storyline w/out her and he was trying to paint her as the bad guy, and trying to get any one else to agree, so that the audience would stop focusing on him & turn on Ariana. It’s what he’s ALWAYS done!
And she was right, 5 min after she left he had a rage fest and told the rest of cast she didn’t like them and she’s lazy blah blah.
Scheana and Lala could have turned around and called Sandoval out on his BS, they could have pointed out that he obvi wasn’t sorry, that Ariana had no reason to believe he was, that he was manipulative and lying and why the fck should they believe him - and it could have been another hero moment for Scheana just like the couch convo last yr.
Instead we have this. Scheana wants to have it both ways, she doesn’t like the consequences of her choices. Lala is grasping at straws and back-tracking to justify her own hypocrisy.
Scheana has said several times now that Ariana could make one comment and solve a lot of the issues happening for her. But why is that Ariana’s responsibility? Maybe Scheana should stop saying and doing things that needs to later be addressed or clarified by Ariana.
The ones that didn’t attend have Integrity, Scheana doesn’t 🤷🏻♀️
Why are all the after show questions about the girls fighting? And how awful Katie is? And how rude Lala and Ariana are? How shallow Scheana is? Why distracting from how awful Sandoval is - constantly trash talking and blaming the woman that HE cheated on for a year (probably longer) and yelling at his "friends".
The sad thing is when Lala finds out just how bad the audience despises her n doesn’t want her on our tv ever again she’s gonna sit n blame Ariana for that too.
I can’t stand Ariana get over it your a bully not to mention you should be thankful for all the publicity and money she’s getting now. Katie is a bully as well she her and Ariana are perfect friends for each other
I thought Sheena said she has no life because she doesn't have a baby sitter and has phobias. Now she doesn't "miss any parties " ok gurl
Aceee!!! What a great question!
Omg these two women said wait till the reunion you will see Ariana is a monster 😂wtf
Honestly this whole cast is iconic and the messiness is the thing I look forward to the most each week. I have so many opinions and also the chaotic dynamics of each person with the others makes this show what it is. We need another season 👏 let’s go bravo
They’re too old for that kind of messy
They’re at the age now we’re supposed to see them grow adapt set some boundaries and have funny failures like now you’re experiencing hangovers the way you might not have experienced them in your early 20s now you kind of want to go to bed early and that’s kind of funny to us after seeing you party hard in your early 20s
They’re in their 40s or getting to their 40s I want to see that kind of drama
I don’t need to see 40 year olds act like they’re 20 that’s not entertainment that’s just sad
Especially since they had a legit drama, that people could relate to this year, like having to settle the dust after one of your friends drops a bomb in your friend group is something a lot of adults can relate to
Having to pick sides in your friends is something you have to do as an adult and they’re hard choices to make and that is real emotion and entertainment for us to watch
Instead, they tried to act like it wasn’t a big deal, downplay it and make it look like Ariana’s just being a drama queen like we’re not in high school we’re aware you’re not a drama queen if you have emotions being someone does something awful to you
What would’ve made great television is seeing these adults behave like adults and have to draw these hard lines for the first time in their lives
Unpopular Opinion: I hope lala and Katie can get to a better place as friends. I actually really loved them together. But I think it's hard because they're in different life stages as Katie mentioned.
James is awesome 😂
His temper and his foul mouth hasn’t changed much….but if that’s what you call “ awesome” then you don’t have very high standards.😆
Hi Dad! 🗑️🤍
I am once again begging Scheana to get off our screens.
Bravo, why are you trying to make Jax happen. Hard pass
Ace Fanning Shout Out!!!
These conversations are so boring!
The fans canonized Ariana to ridiculous levels. She's a holy saint.
Why does Ariana keep saying she doesn't tell people who they can't be friends with when it's objectively proven that she has?
Because there’s a difference she didn’t create this divide Tom did Tom did something that created this divide everybody else had to pick a side that’s just life that’s adulthood sometimes you’re in positions where you have to make a choice and not making a choice is still a choice
All Ariana was saying was that it’s up to you what choice you make but you are making a choice and I’m going to be reacting to that choice
Sometimes life makes you do that and it sucks but the choices you make define you.
No one is required to be friends with anyone else. She's made it very clear she won't be friends with someone who would be friends with Sandoval, and if someone chooses him over her, then they've made that bed
@@tracim3080 nah, sorry, that's something that doesn't need saying. Obviously, she can and should feel that way, but you don't say that to your friends. You just let them make the decision and act accordingly. Her doing that is weird. It's giving ego.
@@lovethatdirtywater78 Obviously, she can and should feel that way, but you don't say that to your friends. You just let them make the decision and act accordingly. Her doing that is weird. It's giving ego.
@@TheOneandOnlyD-R-E but it did need to be said did you not pay attention?
And she was acting accordingly, but she was upfront and make sure her friends knew why she would be pulling away when they made that decision. That’s what decent people do.
Omg hahahahaha Scheshu is delusional
Lala stop lying Katie is not your girl
She’s never liked Katie because Katie was the only one who had balls to call her out from the start.
What's Scheana's excuse for getting in the middle of Ariana's family business. Posting your " Back Up Dancers " brother when they had a falling out is another knife in the back. For someone who has all these "Bas Fronz"... she is a friend to none!
Water tasting party is so southern California!
it’s so funny to me that Ariana is saying she never made any ultimatum, but she quite literally has and there’s like video proof and all of these Ariana fans never mention that. And I love how all of these comments are about Lala and Sheena. You hate them so much but they are running through your mind like crazy obviously if you’re commenting about them that much.
Lala talking about going super low…like girl you savaged your “friends” on your own podcast and continued even after they didn’t respond!
I know this isn’t popular but not loving Ariana. I don’t know what it is. I mean she was with Sandoval all those years of him treating women crappy. Yelling at Katie and Lala and she didn’t stop it. And she is clearly not over him. She not broke up with him because of Scandoval.
Not Scheana still butt hurt over Stassi all these years later 🤣
Scheana’s fake lil clap back about never missing an after party -makes me cringe so bad, it’s always so obvious how insecure she is to the point that it’s uncomfortable for the audience!
Keep Ariana, Katie, and James. The rest are just narcissists who love to play victim or pretend they didn’t do exactly what we saw them do.
Blah Blah dressed like the Producers Jester. Scheana is her own person. She had great conversations with scumdoval. I don't see why she is getting the hate. It is still a show where they get paid.
But Lala went to Chocella with a baby bump
1:50 proves Lalas point about Scheanaover explaining herself that it literally makes her look dumb, like nobody cares you pulled him aside and talked to him it doesn’t make you look any better
"you just made me drop my croissant"
She said she will not have mutual friends with him
She didn’t say anything about “you can’t” b his friend
Jax does not understand the water cycle lmao
James! Yay!
And now Lowlow is feuding w her bobble head Brittany because of an argument over a babysitter. She called her “Kentucky muffin” on the reunion.
Katie has some nerve! She says something about not hanging with a sucky person, but, I’d be bored to tears and angry every day being friends with her. Tom is a cheater! He should never be in a real relationship! I guarantee he cheated on Arianna for years. Tom is also loving, generous, kind, and most of the time fair. He’s giving to his friends, thoughtful to them. He’s a better person than Katie seems to be. Even with his cheating! If I was to pick one, I’d pick him as friend. Not a partner in life.
I love a good after show! Happy Tuesday everyone! 🎉
Who cares what Sandy thinks of Katie. He is the lowest of the low and needs to keep Katie’s name out of his filthy mouth.
Doesn’t want to go clubbing with a bump, but WILL go to multiple day festivals. Mmmkay Lala
Yeah Arianna, you and Katie, have really ,put your case across about friendship ,if your friends with tom ,your not mine,so don't say you don't say that,replay the series ,omg ,move on ,over the bullshit with scandoval ,peeps get cheated on all the time ,but this is too much to keep going ,it's old news ,move on ,let go ,be a better person, kind and respectful ,which you and Katie are not ...truth