Is the Badminton Smash Speedometer broken??
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I think the problem here is why BWF don't open up about what has been changed on how the speed is being measured. There should be no secrecy in stats. It is why fans aren't taking the record seriously anymore. Heck, even we all know Hawkeye is far from perfect, with many blatant mistakes in the past.
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When Yonex need to promote their new racket, the speedmeter got much faster speed results😵💫
I think BWF just wants to make badminton more popular. I hope that some other source other than BWF can measure these shuttle speeds
if they want to promote badminton, they should start with better umpire/referee/line judge, cuz its hella inconsistent.
@@melonusk6120 they should also fix the goofy ass camera angles. quality is always so bad for a lot of tournaments like hong kong open
if the sole question is to understand how fast was FHF smashing. perhaps an experiment to have current smashes recorded with both new and old measuring methods to get a correlation between the 2 sets of data and extrapolate from there. However it would consume alot of resources
Lets not forget we want to see prime Fu Hai feng when he was smashing 300plus consistenly 🤣🤣🤣
I agree with this video but you should note Axelsens 2019 record was for singles, Ivanov and Mads Peter Kolding both hit smashes in the 420kph range in men's doubles around/after that time.
Fu Hei Feng's Smashes still looks more powerful to me. He also could produce several barrages of quality powerful Smashes consecutively... Note, rackets nowadays have more improved technology.
My other top pick for best Smashes are Praveen, Goh V Shem, Jung Jae Sung and Markis Kido. ;)
Rankireddy clears all of them except FHF
I dont think anyone in current badminton is smashing faster than Fu Hai Feng and certainly not by over 100kmph
as long as there is no neutral governing body to keep badminton records, all these hawk system numbers will remain sus. we should keep the radar guns as well imo
The radar guns are located in the middle of the court, feet away from the initial contact point between the racket and the shuttle therefore the recorded speed will always be much slower than what it actually is. Shuttles decelerate very quickly, only less than half the speed will remain after reaching the other side of the court. I think what BWF did to the hawkeye technology is they figured out a way to measure the shuttle speed as close to the initial contact point as possible, thus getting the highest recorded speed. If we put prime Fu Hai Fung to today's court and measure his smash speed I'm sure he will be in the 500 kph range with ease.
There is no way Seo Seung Jae smash was 458 kph. If it was that hard, the opponent wouldn’t get a racket on it.
they could get a racket it to it but at that rate its beyond reflexes
This video doesn’t address how racket technology is also changing all the time. It shouldn’t be all that surprising that new records are made as technology improves. You can compare this with swimming as well, where a similar pattern was observed as swimwear with less drag was developed. As badminton gets more popular worldwide, Yonex and its competitors will have bigger R&D budgets to make faster and faster rackets, so this trend might continue for a while.
Rankireddy’s 500km/h smash was set using his old duora z-strike.
@@vijayendranvijay457 I did not know that, but nonetheless, that racket was introduced in 2017. My point is more that eg when Fu Haifeng was Rankireddy’s age, it was 2006. The rackets were different back then. That’ll also impact smash records, etc.
Racket technology is not going to give 400kmph almost every smash. The point of the video is how the measurement is taken now. In The trajectory of the shuttle there is bound to be loss of speed. The question is this.
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How tf is praveen jordan not over 500?
Who cares about speed, in the end it's the result you can produce with it. If you are producing winners consistently, you are a great smasher at that level.
there is fucking chance Pearly Tan smash is faster than Fu Haifeng. different era's technology produces different result.
The indian one looked the slowest yet it was the fastest. Glitched meter,
It’s because it had basically no angle to it so it slowed down a lot before it hit the floor.
Yeah it was that slow can't defend the straight and easy coming to the racket smash😂
Because it was a flat smash, steep smashes will always look faster because it hits the ground faster
They should test some former wr holders with the new hawkeye technology
It's only a matter of time before it breaks the speed of sound or something...
In my opinion i think its then new tech yk on how the rackets are different
New racket technology allows faster smash, but the meter is definitely not on par with the one used in 2005
Sae Sing Jae smash is like a baby compared to Fu Hai Feng
So true! Fu Hai Feng's smash sounds like a bomb, his smash deffo hit above 400 kph using modern technology
Fu has hit 409 km/h smash in 2017. So, in his prime possibly hitting harder than that. But does not explain sudden recent smashes with over 440 km/h.@@Blockthecreeper
@@vijayendranvijay457 That's prob the absolute like 0.1 seconds when the shuttle got hit, so it's super fast, they did say bwf improved their technology
Anders antonsen video asking Rasmussen who is best smasher in the world.. "he said it's rankireddy .. it's just so powerful that you just can't control return on it " is easy to comment while watching video tape but in reality we can't tell how fast that smash is..
There is no way that the world best doubles player FHF , has that slow of a smash compared to today's average smashers
I think based on opponent reaction Fu Hai Feng smash still faster, like 3x body smash again lars paaske in a game, paaske cannot make any reaction in that smash
We need to have both their new and the old method in one big tournament to compare and set the truth.
Marketing has def ruined the credibility of the sports, it makes also a joke out of the new racket technology.
The Fhu footage , the Kolding smash and other legacy ones are no doubt in the leagues of today shots.
They are rigging the stats and ruining the legacy of the sports for sure. The numbers becoming meaningless or real jokes at this point.
I am not offending anyone but most will agree with me that one of the greatest Smasher of all time like goh v shem,ahsan,Praveen jorden, etc smashes record 400 Max and singles players with China jump smash or scissor kick jump smash record 420 above it's disrespect of sport
Scissors kick smash most likely has more power (less angle). If you jump before smashing you can't use your legs/hips to generate any rotation force it has to all come from your arm and core.
The thing is who plays badminton at decent level will definitely know that most powerful smashing technique is full jump smash not china jump not scissor kick jump smash you can't generate enough power with those both smashes than full jump now days a simple china jump smash or little or no jump smash from player also records speed at 400 that's pathetic that on same level one's full jump smash speed and one's no jump smash speed is same
maybe it is not because the method of measuring has changed but rather the technology in badminton rackets have evolved over time, hence what makes the shuttle travel a lot faster. That's what I think as a badminton fan.
Edited: the context of this comment is about the recent changes in hawkeye measurements and not about the difference w the old radar gun technology
Rankireddy’s 500km/h smash was set using his old duora z-strike. The same as Viktor was using in 2019 when he set the 419km/h record.
Did you read 1:25 ? That explains how hawkeye outputs faster results than the previous technology.
Couldn't be anymore wrong. Just 10 years ago pro players were struggling to defend smashes that were 280 kmph but you are telling me people are defending smashes that are 150kmph faster. No chance. Another good example would be to look at players like Setiawan and Ahsan who have played in the Fu Haifeng era and now. You think Setiawan is suddenly smashing 170 kmph faster when he is almost 40 compared to when he was in his prime just due to racket improvements? Do you know how stupid that sounds?
Youre objectively and provably wrong, though. If you measured speeds over a longer distance, nothing would change much, the only thing that's changed is that the shuttle is being measured closer and closer to the racket, providing a speed that's getting closer to what it leaves the racket with. If you watch the sport, it hasn't become that much faster.
Racket technology, for the most part, isn't even advanced by the equipment companies themselves, but entirely different companies producing harder, more durable carbon materials that the sports brands then buy to make their rackets. It has allowed for lighter and stiffer rackets that can sustain higher string tensions, thus allowing for somewhat better defense, slightly higher smash speeds (not even close to 200kph, though) and more accurate play.
@@andremalmgrenjensen4105 interesting to know that. The context i put forth in my comment is compared to the times of Fu Haifeng’s and Cai Yun’s dominance