Personally hoping for a refreshed Panasonic S1 or S1R. Have enjoyed the Panasonic ecosystem, but really can't wait until I get one with good autofocus.
Sony doesn't do hybrid anymore. They divide photo and video and I don't see that changing. That's why I ditched sony. A7iv was molasses for video and I'm not paying $6500 for hybrid.
Yeah, seems to get back to the fact that Sony is a Sensor manufacture first and a camera manufacture 2nd. They tend to innovate on the sensor level and then try to make corresponding cameras to fit the sensor. So they have a great high resolution sensor, the best high speed sensor, and the best low light sensor, but as far as a mix of all of them, still nothing and unfortunately, being amazing at 1 thing usually means you're less good at something else. So if you're looking for general hybrid, they are just OK but if you want something specific, Sony is tough to beat
The Cameras I want to see are Hasselblad X3D with improved EVF, improved IBIS, improved back screen (hard to see the top of the screen when flipped out) and Sony´s 157 megapixels sensor (which they hide for public !). I want to see more Sony Cameras that are much more oriented towards PHOTOGRAPHY, Sony Cameras without video functions will be wonderful ! Sony should make a A7000 with the 40 megapixels APSC sensor ! I also wait for a A7R6 with the 93 megapixels sensor. Also a Leica "Q"- style Camera with a very good EVF and Leica M-mount, plus cheaper Leica Lenses ! Compact Camera with a 35mm fixed Lens in style as the Contax T/Minox 35 ML will be very nice. More light weight Lenses for Fuji GFX and Hasselblad X-series, also for Sony, I want to see Sony "GMC" Lenses that do not have aperture 1.4/1.8, but much more compact and light weight with the same or even better optical image quality without the need of software to perform ! It could also ne other brands for Sony E-mount, fx new Voittländer APO-Lanthar Lenses, improved Zeiss Loxia and Zeiss Lenses, for Sony E-mount I want an excellent compact 24mm (I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM), I only want prime Lenses, there are a big lack of long tele prime Lenses for Sony, like 300mm 4.0, 400mm 4.5, 500mm 5.6...
I used the original X1D and it was almost an awesome camera but AF was barely usable...I know the X2D improved things quite a bit and I'm sure the X3D will round it out nicely. Have you checked out the Fujifilm XH2? That's a 40mp APSC sensor made for photography...that also happens to have some awesome video specs.
@@learningcameras I never do video (I hate videos !) I hope Sony will make Cameras without video functions or at least have the ability to shut down all video functions and hide video functions in the menu system. I know the Fuji, but I do not want two systems, with Sony I can use all my full frame Lenses on a Sony APSC Camera. I do not care about autofocus, I use manual focus 99.99% of the time.
@@cameraprepper7938 Honestly the way the menus are setup, if you leave the Sony camera in Photo mode, the main video menu's completely disappear and all of your custom menus have separate controls for video and photo anyway so nothing video on Sony cameras will mess with photo. I think the Sony A7CR is extremely photo biased. It might have video but the sensor and hardware was created with the photographer in mind. Having over 60MP is HORRIBLE for video. That camera has almost medium format level detail and dynamic range because those BSI sensors are so good, has next level AF, and because the resolution is so high, the APSC mode is actually usable at over 26MP which is more than enough
@@learningcameras I have Sony A7RIV Cameras, but I want to hide the video functions in the main menu so it is faster scrolling through the menu to a "forgotten" setting. I do not like the A7CR, though I like the design with the EVF in the corner, the A7CR is too expensive for what you not get ! Too small EVF wit too low resolution, one car slut, no joystick, no mechanic first curtain shutter and the camera is too thick to be compact because of the articulating screen.
I live in FL so overheating isn't history for me on the R5, even with the firmware updates which did help. I know Tony well but he lives NORTH of New York so not representative of those of us in scorching humidity lol. But Nikon can shoot more than 30 minutes of video, 4k120 in any format...not just ALL-I h.265 (almost unusable the file sizes are so large), 10bit works in all modes not just LOG, it has prores recording, 8k60, and shoots 20fps in raw with with no rolling shutter, no wear and tear, no sound, and no viewfinder blackout. So Nikon is definitely winning on specs although the R5 autofocus system is more reliable
@@learningcamerascan you elaborate in how the R5 AF is more reliable? Is that even after the Z9 update? I heard the Z9 is on par with the R5 now after the update, especially with animal eye-AF where the R5 is exceptional.
@@bladerealm124 In my use, they are both capable but the R5 is more reliable....so basically if I had both cameras filming my youtube videos, in my experience over an hour filming, the Z8/Z9 would miss focus during that hour more than the Canon R5. Sony is incredibly reliable these days to the point where ALL my youtube videos in the studio are shot with AF on and I have never in my recollection had them miss or focus on the wrong thing. Reliability is different to capability though. As I'm typing this I'm thinking this would be an awesome thing to figure out how to test haha!
@@bladerealm124 There's another photographer called "ZP Productions" who owns and shoots on all flagships (A1, R3, Z9, GFX100, X-H2S) and his experience is that Canon's Eye AF is still more reliable. Sony and Nikon has a tendency to front/back focus or focus on distractions like eyelashes or strands of hair.
@learningcameras I live in South Africa, , also see Deaf Director and Ordinary Filmmaker tests and real world usage at ambient in 30 + deg C , maybe some of there advice will help .Really want I'm saying cameras have made no huge advances in last 4 years .
Hi Dan, great predictions, hoping for LUMIX S1 Mark II ... One question: How do you get your camera so plane to the background? Do you mind sharing some tipps and tricks on studio setup, so that angles all align? Thanks soooo much.
Nice! Haha, It's still not perfect but I do try and measure my centerline with my camera and background and then I adjust between the height of my tripod and the camera level to get straight lines. A couple tricks that come from some time I spent (and still occasionally do) in real estate photography
Waiting for that A9iii review. My biggest concern for A9iii is the base ISO at 2000 when using SLOG which is what I would use when shooting video and photo image quality at iso 10,000 or 12800 (which is what most cameras get to even with F2.8 prime lenses when shooting high school field sports at night or inside school gymnasiums.
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of low light/dynamic range tests in the "real world". I think it's obvious the A9III speeds take a hit on quality but the question is when do you see it in real life. I actually have a few things I've noticed so far so I'm debating on if I just make a more boring video going over the data now or wait for the big full review to be edited which will probably be another 1-2 weeks!
Dan Sir i am still waiting for nikon z6iii. but i really want more features on video side better af + real time eye tracking focus system like sony and canon. At least 4k 120 ff.
More reviews! Z 35mm f/1.2S that’s rumored should also be coming out this year. Z7 III is the biggest unknown. Will it go the way of the A7R V and be the super high resolution beast? Will it be a mechanical shutter, cheaper Z8? I just hope they do a twin announcement for this next generation.
I also doubt that sony will bring prores raw to their a7siv/ or FX3m2/fx4. Maybe cuz of their high-end cinema cameras like the venice and burano that has X-OCN. Because Burano and Venice has 8.6k sensors maybe FX9m2 will be the first FX that get compressed X-OCN on a 6k sensor to close the gap? any thoughts?
many ask about nikon, i m talking about video....not photos ...in my area whoever uses nikon for video (not z8,z9) has issues cause the files are not so good , there is no latitude and colors are simple on the bad side...maybe a new model does it better but for ppl that work with cameras on the 2k range nikon is not a good option for video atm...
In the past, Nikon only shot 8bit internal which is not enough latitude to work with LOG... although Nikon's FLAT video profile worked extremely well. Even then, I thought Nikon's 8bit video held up better to a grade than Sony's 8bit...just not as good as Panasonic. With the Z8/Z9 and likely and future camera, Nikon can shoot full 10bit 422 like everyone else so those days are over.
The global shutter has disadvantages too in low light and dynamic range. It absorbs almost half the light of a traditional sensor so it's about 1 stop worse. That's worth it when you shoot sports and frame rate matters but likely isn't worth the hit for video when stacked cmos is already fast read speeds
Honestly, I need the Canon R1 to do one thing really good, and that is to shoot sports. Honestly, all the other things that they want this camera to do I could care less about. Currently, I shoot with a Canon R3 for all of my sports work, and it's a beast. I'm glad I don't buy into all of the extra hype. I do remember one thing. This camera is basically built to do high-speed photography when it comes to sports. That is what the 1 series camera is built for, sports. And if the price is too expensive for others, then they need not buy it. Whatever features they put into this camera so it can be the master of all is great. As long as it is absolutely great at doing high-speed sports photography. Because that's the only thing I'm concerned about.
@learningcameras As I said before, the Canon R1 is a sports camera. My Canon R3, in my opinion, is also a sports camera. If the Canon R1 gives me more megapixels, fine, I'll definitely buy it, if it gives me more speed, of course I'll buy it. But all the other things that they want to shove into that camera don't concern me. I need it to be the master of sports photography as the 1 series always has been. As far as Sony goes, it's a great camera. I have no plans ever to switch from Canon to Sony just because a Sony camera made be better. It is still the skill of the photographer versus the camera if you have terrible skills no matter what camera you use, you're not going to get the shot. This is why I don't buy into the hype. I will buy into the capabilities of a camera. And with Canon's new RF 100-300 mm that's a game changer for me. I've also used the Canon RF 1200 mm for sports and I love it. It has its place when I need it. And that's the gist of it. I buy equipment based off of what I need it for. I don't need it to be the master of everything, but I do need it to be the master of at least the one thing I bought it for, and for me, the R1 is for sports.
What a refreshing unbiased review! So many are so biased to one brand or another, but you called it out perfectly. The Z8 is incredible - but gets nearly zero support from UA-camrs or influencers - Nikon needs to step up their game in this regard. Sony keeps launching new cameras at inflated prices, while leaving the old camera at the old price (or slightly discounted), while Canon is being more aggressive (R6 II as an example).
Means a lot!!! Yeah, Nikon needs to step up the PR game big time....and maybe drop some new lenses that are a bit less heavy than the 50mm F1.2 lol. What good is a Camera as good as the Z8 if people don't know about it! They seem focused on Nikon users but they need to start seeing if they can start taking some market share back and go after non Nikon users or previous Nikon users
Nice! I've actually shot and recorded a MASSIVE video on it already from my 3 months with the camera. Just need to find the time to finish editing it lol
Meanwhile I just want a 4k camera with no compromises or crops in a camera under 2500. I know there's the ZVE1 which is very close, but it's unreliable and not as rugged. I'd love to see basically an FX30.....but without all the compromises.
Yes you say it. I went with the Z9 cause the videospecs on paper was just mind blowing. And i still use my Z9 after 2 years and no other camera was this good in video like my Z9. So i sell every canon camera i had and now i am full in the nikon ecosystem. The Nikon Zf btw is just an amazing camera too.
For me I can't switch until other mounts become as cheap as the e mount. Literally sub 400 1.8 autofocus primes and sub 1000 dollar 2.8 zooms are the things that are keeping me Sony. 3rd party rules.
I will say Canon's RF full frame F1.8 options are close to that...Panasonic as well. But yeah, I'm hoping once Canon has a decent RF lineup, they open though mount up to 3rd party options
@@learningcameras some people don't like Viltrox but them and tamron are unmatched when it comes to price for performance. RF and L are close but no dice. 24, 35, 50, 85 1.8s can all be had under 400 dollars on Sony. 28-75 and 70-180 both under 1100 dollars. And then the countless super telephotos all under 1500 dollars. That e mount is unmatched for quantity and price. If the other mounts have that low of price I would definitely be trying Panasonic for sure. But until then I gotta stick with Sony strictly for accessibility. Every camera body on the market today is good.
Continue to be surprised the market is enough to support all these variations of cameras. With the performance increases I would think they could consolidate some models. Anyway interested in your car photography.
For Sony, they have an advantage...they are actually a sensor company more than a camera company so all the variations just mean more sensor sales. The other brands definitely have a tougher road to profit. Awesome!!! I'll keep that in mind
Great info. Canon is DUE!! You have experience with all the brands. That makes you an informed source. Thanks. I hear good things about Nikon. Panasonic has nice color but the AF is a deal breaker. Seems like in this day and age you would start there. AF. Color second. Specs and all the rest next. I dunno.
I don’t think there’s going to be an update on the SIII/FX3 with the updated SIII firmware coming out. I don’t think the sensor size will increase, unless the processor gets a serious update. The benefit of the smaller MP sensor is the better rolling shutter performance, and the light sensitivity. Every cinema camera is a smaller MP readout. Also, in terms of the lack of benefits between the SIII body and the FXIII body - I think the weather sealing on the SIII is a major benefit over the FX body since it has exposed fans. The SIII also has the EVF so you don’t have to depend on that LCD screen when you’re outside.
So that's why the sensor would need to be a stacked cmos sensor like the A9II to ensure the increase in MP doesn't negatively affect rolling shutter. But with a stacked cmos sensor like the A9II and Nikon Z8/Canon R3, they could easily handle increased resolution. The Z8 does 8k60 and 4k120 with a 45mp stacked cmos sensor with almost no rolling shutter and can shoot for 2hrs without overheating in 8k! Sony only has to do that with 24mp and 6k60 so that should be easy lol
Dan I'm all in with you about A7Siv! If Sony just uses the same A9ii sensor to give out the sweetest hybrid of all times for under $4k to compete with Z8 it will be awesome. It would be a big missed opportunity if not indeed.
I'm now really beginning to see that Full Frame all out gears and accessories are slowly being pushed into the corner for professionals and enthusiasts. Why? Because I was one of those guys who likes to get gears and accessories, but when I travel it became so much of a burden. Now you can have all of that in a small DJI Pocket 3 and I feel it just makes so much sense. Photos can all be taken on our cameras with amazing quality already so videos on a small handheld such as the Pocket 3 makes a complete combo. For about 95% of people those little cameras and a phone covers all you'll never need.
So I actually have a full review coming out on the Pocket 3...I have one and I love it! The quality is insane for the price/size. But, most of my content is geared towards content creators, photographers, and videographers who are every year trying to improve or to be able to do this professionally some day, and thus most of my info will be focused on cameras that push you forward in that way. Regardless of how good a phone is or the pocket 3 is, it's difficult to get paid to shoot content using them so I tend to see those as BTS tools, family/vacation cameras, and when you need a quick shot. So to the end user, a pocket 3 or phone might be all you need, but to anyone trying to improve, develop a craft, or make a living, they are not in most situations. In the same way that while my $20 frying pan might be "good enough" to cook eggs for me and my kids, any wanna be chef, person with $ to spare, or someone trying to perfect their cooking skills should get something better.
Hi Dan! Great review of specific cameras with plus & minus elements. Amazing as to your broad usage & experience with them. My personal with for early 2024: Sony a7000 with the same sensor as the FX30--at least. No overheating, unlimited time, internal time code like the FX30. 😎😎
@@learningcameras Yep. You nailed it. Need a good-apsc style sensor camera for shooting video of northern migrating birds. Full frame Sony a9iii would be nice, but way out of my price range and budget. Besides, I like the longer reach if I want to use full frame telephotos lenses. Hurry, Sony, you can release the new a7000 camera now (if you want to throw in global shutter, that's okay, too). 😎😎
I just haven't seen quite the coverage on it which is probably Nikon’s marketing fault as well but it doesn't seem to have turned into mass sales in the US. I saw reports of it being pretty hot in Japan though but I can't tell you how many actual mirrorless videographers that would die for these specs who don't know the Z8 exists
Dan, thank you for the video. Interesting view of potential new cameras. Personally just a stills shooter but always interested to learn what’s happening in the hybrid and video segments of the market. While an A1 shutter with also A7RV very happy with the new small A7Cx bodies. Do hope Sony introduces some improved smaller lenses great for travel.
I just thought Nikon could have done so much more with that. It's not bad or anything, but given the price, it just feels like the specs are more like cameras from a couple years ago and given where Nikon is in the market right now, they need to go all out. The Z8 was a great example of going all out. If Nikon's Z6III is largely based on the Zf, they are in trouble
@@learningcameras...no it’s not. It has terrible Chromatic Aberrations in each image shot with it and it doesn’t have the motors to handle AF on a moving subject with the A1 or A9iii. A Sigma from a decade ago gives the 24GM a run for its money when it comes to optical quality. It is time for a brighter, sharper, faster 24 Prime for 8K
@@learningcamerasmost reviews show the chromatic abrasion issues with the 24GM, but it’s an issue for that focal length. Manny Ortiz video is the first one and once you see that, that glass is wack. 20G, 50 1.2GM, 135GM is my setup until a capable 24mm arrives for the A1.
@@learningcamerasif Sony is too arrogant to admit the shortcomings of the 24GM, then Sigma should drop a Bigma 24 1.2 for Nikon users to have access to 1.2 24/50/85 Primes, then we’ll see Sony be forced to answer
I mean, go look at any images of the photographers at the Olympics... It's mostly Canon glass with a few Nikon’s thrown in! Let's see if that changes this year
@@learningcameras it’s true I don’t have the historical perspective and appreciation for what Canon has meant for artists over the years - but my perspective of them tends to being really heavy handed and taking their patrons, for granted, in certain ways?
@@cogmission1 Yeah, the way Canon approached the transition to mirrorless does make them come off that way. But remember, there were more Canon EF lenses, even from 3rd parties, than ANY other system in existence so Canon was extremely open and I hope they return to that stance soon. But definitely during the transition to mirrorless (which they are still not 100% done with), there were TONs of decisions made from a board room of suits that didn't benefit the end user like not allowing 3rd parties and software limiting cameras. Sony had the advantage of not really having anything to protect. We're seeing this in the transition to electric cars as well where Tesla goes all out with speed on their cars while traditional ICE car brands limit EV abilities to protect their bread and butter ICE cars and performance lines. It might make BMW's M devision a bit worried if any standard 3 series EV can beat a $100,000 M3 off the line yet a $45,000 Tesla 3 can. So we're seeing companies software limit their EV's like Canon software limited the first few rounds of RF cameras.
@@learningcameras All good points. I appreciate your perspective as a long standing professional in the industry. I had my opinion sullied by the time of my entrance into the market (2019), and choosing Panasonic due to their emphasis on thorough videography tools - then later getting crushed by the sense that they weren’t listening to their patrons, screaming about auto focus! So the last move I would make leaving Panasonic would be to go to Canon, who seem like the poster boy for ignoring and negligence, and outright guile… Sony seemed like the only rational choice… Because I wasn’t making enough money to cross invest in glass from different manufacturers, and couldn’t afford to take a loss in order to switch in total? Then, when I saw Sony’s consistent trend toward innovation and customer response, I was sold! Now I’m thinking about going to red because I’m just not happy with the A7S3-based sensors! I bought an A1 because of the improvement in color, science and innovation, but I had to get rid of it after Covid and loss of income! And now I’m happy I did because Sony seems to be prioritizing gimmicky advancements more than color, science and secret sauce?
I’m looking for a true cine FX body from Sony this year, such as an FX9 MarkII. THAT I would shell out the $ to purchase. Let that system rise to 6k with hopefully an internal X-OCN option (like the Burano) and CFExpressB media. The FX3 is fine where it is for another year I think, though yes, the A7SIII is getting out of date as a hybrid. It will be interesting to see what they do there.
Yeah but it doesn't have much competition except with 3+ year old cameras that are actually based on 5+ year old cameras. So the Sony A7C for example might have the larger battery, but it's 5 year old tech which makes a difference with autofocus, sensor read speeds, and video...and it's still more expensive than the R8!
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Personally hoping for a refreshed Panasonic S1 or S1R. Have enjoyed the Panasonic ecosystem, but really can't wait until I get one with good autofocus.
S1H 1 is my fav all time . Please hurry with the 2
Cheers so much 😊❤
Waiting for a M43rds Pocket version ❤
Nikon's marketing is terrible, that's partly why so many people never heard of the Z8.
This is the first time that I have heard that no one knows about the Nikon Z8!
Its all over DP Review
Waiting patiently for the Nikon Z6iii
Might not be waiting much longer!
Sony doesn't do hybrid anymore. They divide photo and video and I don't see that changing. That's why I ditched sony. A7iv was molasses for video and I'm not paying $6500 for hybrid.
Yeah, seems to get back to the fact that Sony is a Sensor manufacture first and a camera manufacture 2nd. They tend to innovate on the sensor level and then try to make corresponding cameras to fit the sensor. So they have a great high resolution sensor, the best high speed sensor, and the best low light sensor, but as far as a mix of all of them, still nothing and unfortunately, being amazing at 1 thing usually means you're less good at something else. So if you're looking for general hybrid, they are just OK but if you want something specific, Sony is tough to beat
Bro can exchange his cameras and lenses with any new car he wants 😂
The Cameras I want to see are Hasselblad X3D with improved EVF, improved IBIS, improved back screen (hard to see the top of the screen when flipped out) and Sony´s 157 megapixels sensor (which they hide for public !). I want to see more Sony Cameras that are much more oriented towards PHOTOGRAPHY, Sony Cameras without video functions will be wonderful ! Sony should make a A7000 with the 40 megapixels APSC sensor ! I also wait for a A7R6 with the 93 megapixels sensor. Also a Leica "Q"- style Camera with a very good EVF and Leica M-mount, plus cheaper Leica Lenses ! Compact Camera with a 35mm fixed Lens in style as the Contax T/Minox 35 ML will be very nice. More light weight Lenses for Fuji GFX and Hasselblad X-series, also for Sony, I want to see Sony "GMC" Lenses that do not have aperture 1.4/1.8, but much more compact and light weight with the same or even better optical image quality without the need of software to perform ! It could also ne other brands for Sony E-mount, fx new Voittländer APO-Lanthar Lenses, improved Zeiss Loxia and Zeiss Lenses, for Sony E-mount I want an excellent compact 24mm (I have the Sony 24mm 1.4 GM), I only want prime Lenses, there are a big lack of long tele prime Lenses for Sony, like 300mm 4.0, 400mm 4.5, 500mm 5.6...
I used the original X1D and it was almost an awesome camera but AF was barely usable...I know the X2D improved things quite a bit and I'm sure the X3D will round it out nicely. Have you checked out the Fujifilm XH2? That's a 40mp APSC sensor made for photography...that also happens to have some awesome video specs.
@@learningcameras I never do video (I hate videos !) I hope Sony will make Cameras without video functions or at least have the ability to shut down all video functions and hide video functions in the menu system.
I know the Fuji, but I do not want two systems, with Sony I can use all my full frame Lenses on a Sony APSC Camera.
I do not care about autofocus, I use manual focus 99.99% of the time.
@@cameraprepper7938 Honestly the way the menus are setup, if you leave the Sony camera in Photo mode, the main video menu's completely disappear and all of your custom menus have separate controls for video and photo anyway so nothing video on Sony cameras will mess with photo. I think the Sony A7CR is extremely photo biased. It might have video but the sensor and hardware was created with the photographer in mind. Having over 60MP is HORRIBLE for video. That camera has almost medium format level detail and dynamic range because those BSI sensors are so good, has next level AF, and because the resolution is so high, the APSC mode is actually usable at over 26MP which is more than enough
@@learningcameras I have Sony A7RIV Cameras, but I want to hide the video functions in the main menu so it is faster scrolling through the menu to a "forgotten" setting. I do not like the A7CR, though I like the design with the EVF in the corner, the A7CR is too expensive for what you not get ! Too small EVF wit too low resolution, one car slut, no joystick, no mechanic first curtain shutter and the camera is too thick to be compact because of the articulating screen.
Overheating is history, and most cameras do.The R5 still stands with latest Nikon and Sony .See Tony's comparison .
I live in FL so overheating isn't history for me on the R5, even with the firmware updates which did help. I know Tony well but he lives NORTH of New York so not representative of those of us in scorching humidity lol. But Nikon can shoot more than 30 minutes of video, 4k120 in any format...not just ALL-I h.265 (almost unusable the file sizes are so large), 10bit works in all modes not just LOG, it has prores recording, 8k60, and shoots 20fps in raw with with no rolling shutter, no wear and tear, no sound, and no viewfinder blackout. So Nikon is definitely winning on specs although the R5 autofocus system is more reliable
@@learningcamerascan you elaborate in how the R5 AF is more reliable? Is that even after the Z9 update? I heard the Z9 is on par with the R5 now after the update, especially with animal eye-AF where the R5 is exceptional.
@@bladerealm124 In my use, they are both capable but the R5 is more reliable....so basically if I had both cameras filming my youtube videos, in my experience over an hour filming, the Z8/Z9 would miss focus during that hour more than the Canon R5. Sony is incredibly reliable these days to the point where ALL my youtube videos in the studio are shot with AF on and I have never in my recollection had them miss or focus on the wrong thing. Reliability is different to capability though. As I'm typing this I'm thinking this would be an awesome thing to figure out how to test haha!
@@bladerealm124 There's another photographer called "ZP Productions" who owns and shoots on all flagships (A1, R3, Z9, GFX100, X-H2S) and his experience is that Canon's Eye AF is still more reliable. Sony and Nikon has a tendency to front/back focus or focus on distractions like eyelashes or strands of hair.
@learningcameras I live in South Africa, , also see Deaf Director and Ordinary Filmmaker tests and real world usage at ambient in 30 + deg C , maybe some of there advice will help .Really want I'm saying cameras have made no huge advances in last 4 years .
That damn S1H Mark II better come out this year 😤
Hi Dan, great predictions, hoping for LUMIX S1 Mark II ...
One question: How do you get your camera so plane to the background? Do you mind sharing some tipps and tricks on studio setup, so that angles all align? Thanks soooo much.
Nice! Haha, It's still not perfect but I do try and measure my centerline with my camera and background and then I adjust between the height of my tripod and the camera level to get straight lines. A couple tricks that come from some time I spent (and still occasionally do) in real estate photography
I want Sony A7 V with uncropped 4K 60fps in this year 2024... That will be the best hybrid game changer.
im honored it be the first to comment.
I would love to see a Panasonic S1R II with phase detection and the long waited telephoto lens ( maybe 100-500mm)
As long as the FX3 line omits the EVF, I’ll hope for the A7S IV. I had to use an FX3 a few months ago, and the lack of EVF drove me nuts.
I think you might dig it though if you had used a sweet external EVF on the side of a nice rig.
Waiting for that A9iii review. My biggest concern for A9iii is the base ISO at 2000 when using SLOG which is what I would use when shooting video and photo image quality at iso 10,000 or 12800 (which is what most cameras get to even with F2.8 prime lenses when shooting high school field sports at night or inside school gymnasiums.
Yeah, I've been doing a lot of low light/dynamic range tests in the "real world". I think it's obvious the A9III speeds take a hit on quality but the question is when do you see it in real life. I actually have a few things I've noticed so far so I'm debating on if I just make a more boring video going over the data now or wait for the big full review to be edited which will probably be another 1-2 weeks!
Dan Sir i am still waiting for nikon z6iii. but i really want more features on video side better af + real time eye tracking focus system like sony and canon. At least 4k 120 ff.
More reviews!
Z 35mm f/1.2S that’s rumored should also be coming out this year.
Z7 III is the biggest unknown. Will it go the way of the A7R V and be the super high resolution beast? Will it be a mechanical shutter, cheaper Z8? I just hope they do a twin announcement for this next generation.
I can’t wait for the new cams to come out. Then I can get the older version.
I want to see Nikon z8 z9 add 3:2 open gate and anamorphic mode to those cameras… If they do that FORGET ABOUT IT!
I also doubt that sony will bring prores raw to their a7siv/ or FX3m2/fx4. Maybe cuz of their high-end cinema cameras like the venice and burano that has X-OCN. Because Burano and Venice has 8.6k sensors maybe FX9m2 will be the first FX that get compressed X-OCN on a 6k sensor to close the gap? any thoughts?
I'm hoping the competition changes that but I'm with you...I wouldn't hold my breath
@@learningcameras what I do wish 🤞 eND on FX3m2/fx4 combined with the latest stabilizition. They have managed that with the Burano.
many ask about nikon, i m talking about video....not photos ...in my area whoever uses nikon for video (not z8,z9) has issues cause the files are not so good , there is no latitude and colors are simple on the bad side...maybe a new model does it better but for ppl that work with cameras on the 2k range nikon is not a good option for video atm...
In the past, Nikon only shot 8bit internal which is not enough latitude to work with LOG... although Nikon's FLAT video profile worked extremely well. Even then, I thought Nikon's 8bit video held up better to a grade than Sony's 8bit...just not as good as Panasonic. With the Z8/Z9 and likely and future camera, Nikon can shoot full 10bit 422 like everyone else so those days are over.
If the fx4/sony a7siv gets the global shutter from the a9
I see ALOT of people shifting as that’s ground breaking at a consumer level pricepoint
The global shutter has disadvantages too in low light and dynamic range. It absorbs almost half the light of a traditional sensor so it's about 1 stop worse. That's worth it when you shoot sports and frame rate matters but likely isn't worth the hit for video when stacked cmos is already fast read speeds
Honestly, I need the Canon R1 to do one thing really good, and that is to shoot sports. Honestly, all the other things that they want this camera to do I could care less about. Currently, I shoot with a Canon R3 for all of my sports work, and it's a beast. I'm glad I don't buy into all of the extra hype. I do remember one thing. This camera is basically built to do high-speed photography when it comes to sports. That is what the 1 series camera is built for, sports. And if the price is too expensive for others, then they need not buy it. Whatever features they put into this camera so it can be the master of all is great. As long as it is absolutely great at doing high-speed sports photography. Because that's the only thing I'm concerned about.
So what is it you want that the R3 doesn't already give you? Faster like the A9III or more resolution?
@learningcameras As I said before, the Canon R1 is a sports camera. My Canon R3, in my opinion, is also a sports camera. If the Canon R1 gives me more megapixels, fine, I'll definitely buy it, if it gives me more speed, of course I'll buy it. But all the other things that they want to shove into that camera don't concern me. I need it to be the master of sports photography as the 1 series always has been. As far as Sony goes, it's a great camera. I have no plans ever to switch from Canon to Sony just because a Sony camera made be better. It is still the skill of the photographer versus the camera if you have terrible skills no matter what camera you use, you're not going to get the shot. This is why I don't buy into the hype. I will buy into the capabilities of a camera. And with Canon's new RF 100-300 mm that's a game changer for me. I've also used the Canon RF 1200 mm for sports and I love it. It has its place when I need it. And that's the gist of it. I buy equipment based off of what I need it for. I don't need it to be the master of everything, but I do need it to be the master of at least the one thing I bought it for, and for me, the R1 is for sports.
At this point we a need a serous shrinkage of those lenses. This is getting really awkward to walk around with those things.
Yeah...Nikon and Panasonic are the worst offenders
Personal WISH for early 2024
What a refreshing unbiased review! So many are so biased to one brand or another, but you called it out perfectly. The Z8 is incredible - but gets nearly zero support from UA-camrs or influencers - Nikon needs to step up their game in this regard. Sony keeps launching new cameras at inflated prices, while leaving the old camera at the old price (or slightly discounted), while Canon is being more aggressive (R6 II as an example).
Means a lot!!! Yeah, Nikon needs to step up the PR game big time....and maybe drop some new lenses that are a bit less heavy than the 50mm F1.2 lol. What good is a Camera as good as the Z8 if people don't know about it! They seem focused on Nikon users but they need to start seeing if they can start taking some market share back and go after non Nikon users or previous Nikon users
@@learningcameras very much agree. And would love some smaller retro-designed lenses. Most are huge vs Sony or Canon. The 70-200 2.8 is a beast
I want to see and hear more about compact cameras like the dji pocket 3
Nice! I've actually shot and recorded a MASSIVE video on it already from my 3 months with the camera. Just need to find the time to finish editing it lol
Meanwhile I just want a 4k camera with no compromises or crops in a camera under 2500.
I know there's the ZVE1 which is very close, but it's unreliable and not as rugged.
I'd love to see basically an FX30.....but without all the compromises.
Yes you say it. I went with the Z9 cause the videospecs on paper was just mind blowing. And i still use my Z9 after 2 years and no other camera was this good in video like my Z9. So i sell every canon camera i had and now i am full in the nikon ecosystem. The Nikon Zf btw is just an amazing camera too.
Yeah, I'll have a full review on on Z8 done shortly. Had it since launch and it's crazy just how many more features it has than anything else
For me I can't switch until other mounts become as cheap as the e mount. Literally sub 400 1.8 autofocus primes and sub 1000 dollar 2.8 zooms are the things that are keeping me Sony. 3rd party rules.
I will say Canon's RF full frame F1.8 options are close to that...Panasonic as well. But yeah, I'm hoping once Canon has a decent RF lineup, they open though mount up to 3rd party options
@@learningcameras some people don't like Viltrox but them and tamron are unmatched when it comes to price for performance. RF and L are close but no dice. 24, 35, 50, 85 1.8s can all be had under 400 dollars on Sony. 28-75 and 70-180 both under 1100 dollars. And then the countless super telephotos all under 1500 dollars. That e mount is unmatched for quantity and price. If the other mounts have that low of price I would definitely be trying Panasonic for sure. But until then I gotta stick with Sony strictly for accessibility. Every camera body on the market today is good.
Continue to be surprised the market is enough to support all these variations of cameras. With the performance increases I would think they could consolidate some models. Anyway interested in your car photography.
For Sony, they have an advantage...they are actually a sensor company more than a camera company so all the variations just mean more sensor sales. The other brands definitely have a tougher road to profit. Awesome!!! I'll keep that in mind
Great info. Canon is DUE!! You have experience with all the brands. That makes you an informed source. Thanks. I hear good things about Nikon. Panasonic has nice color but the AF is a deal breaker. Seems like in this day and age you would start there. AF. Color second. Specs and all the rest next. I dunno.
Agreed!
I don’t think there’s going to be an update on the SIII/FX3 with the updated SIII firmware coming out. I don’t think the sensor size will increase, unless the processor gets a serious update. The benefit of the smaller MP sensor is the better rolling shutter performance, and the light sensitivity. Every cinema camera is a smaller MP readout.
Also, in terms of the lack of benefits between the SIII body and the FXIII body - I think the weather sealing on the SIII is a major benefit over the FX body since it has exposed fans. The SIII also has the EVF so you don’t have to depend on that LCD screen when you’re outside.
So that's why the sensor would need to be a stacked cmos sensor like the A9II to ensure the increase in MP doesn't negatively affect rolling shutter. But with a stacked cmos sensor like the A9II and Nikon Z8/Canon R3, they could easily handle increased resolution.
The Z8 does 8k60 and 4k120 with a 45mp stacked cmos sensor with almost no rolling shutter and can shoot for 2hrs without overheating in 8k! Sony only has to do that with 24mp and 6k60 so that should be easy lol
Dan I'm all in with you about A7Siv! If Sony just uses the same A9ii sensor to give out the sweetest hybrid of all times for under $4k to compete with Z8 it will be awesome. It would be a big missed opportunity if not indeed.
Exactly!!! I'm sure photo speeds will be 30+fps and it would easily pull off at least 4k60 and 4k120. The Z8 does 8k60 which is pretty crazy!
I'm now really beginning to see that Full Frame all out gears and accessories are slowly being pushed into the corner for professionals and enthusiasts. Why? Because I was one of those guys who likes to get gears and accessories, but when I travel it became so much of a burden. Now you can have all of that in a small DJI Pocket 3 and I feel it just makes so much sense. Photos can all be taken on our cameras with amazing quality already so videos on a small handheld such as the Pocket 3 makes a complete combo.
For about 95% of people those little cameras and a phone covers all you'll never need.
So I actually have a full review coming out on the Pocket 3...I have one and I love it! The quality is insane for the price/size. But, most of my content is geared towards content creators, photographers, and videographers who are every year trying to improve or to be able to do this professionally some day, and thus most of my info will be focused on cameras that push you forward in that way. Regardless of how good a phone is or the pocket 3 is, it's difficult to get paid to shoot content using them so I tend to see those as BTS tools, family/vacation cameras, and when you need a quick shot. So to the end user, a pocket 3 or phone might be all you need, but to anyone trying to improve, develop a craft, or make a living, they are not in most situations. In the same way that while my $20 frying pan might be "good enough" to cook eggs for me and my kids, any wanna be chef, person with $ to spare, or someone trying to perfect their cooking skills should get something better.
@@learningcameras yeah that's understandable, I think for a vlogger the Pocket 3 is simply amazing.
Hi Dan! Great review of specific cameras with plus & minus elements. Amazing as to your broad usage & experience with them. My personal with for early 2024: Sony a7000 with the same sensor as the FX30--at least. No overheating, unlimited time, internal time code like the FX30. 😎😎
Thanks! So basically the FX30 with a viewfinder?
@@learningcameras Yep. You nailed it. Need a good-apsc style sensor camera for shooting video of northern migrating birds. Full frame Sony a9iii would be nice, but way out of my price range and budget. Besides, I like the longer reach if I want to use full frame telephotos lenses. Hurry, Sony, you can release the new a7000 camera now (if you want to throw in global shutter, that's okay, too). 😎😎
"The Nikon Z8 is the most underrated camera in years..." Really?? I've seen nothing but rave reviews by anyone who's looked at it.
I just haven't seen quite the coverage on it which is probably Nikon’s marketing fault as well but it doesn't seem to have turned into mass sales in the US. I saw reports of it being pretty hot in Japan though but I can't tell you how many actual mirrorless videographers that would die for these specs who don't know the Z8 exists
@@learningcameras yes, it's selling well in Japan. But U.S. retailers don't release their sales data. Who knows how well the Z8 is doing here?
Need a Z500 from Nikon that’s all I need for wildlife / nature photography
26-33 MP APSC stacked sensor with 30 FPS … that would be killer
So an APSC version of the Z8?
There's the Fuji X-H2S, it has limitations, but it's the best APS-C body on the market right now.
@@learningcameras Yes 👍🏻
Dan, thank you for the video. Interesting view of potential new cameras. Personally just a stills shooter but always interested to learn what’s happening in the hybrid and video segments of the market. While an A1 shutter with also A7RV very happy with the new small A7Cx bodies. Do hope Sony introduces some improved smaller lenses great for travel.
You skipped out the Zf, which is surprisingly good for video.
I just thought Nikon could have done so much more with that. It's not bad or anything, but given the price, it just feels like the specs are more like cameras from a couple years ago and given where Nikon is in the market right now, they need to go all out. The Z8 was a great example of going all out. If Nikon's Z6III is largely based on the Zf, they are in trouble
@@learningcameras Zf not Zf C XD
Thanks for the video. Regards the Z8 the store I use in the UK has 8 used in stock I'm not sure what that points too.
Nikon fanboy
Im waiting for Panasonic Lumix make compact camera like sony a7c
I wouldn't hold out too much hope. They seem a bit less interested in that these days
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Just saying lol...
@@learningcameras thanks
24mm F1.2 glass for Sony
Definitely would be awesome...but even the F1.4 they have now is really solid
@@learningcameras...no it’s not. It has terrible Chromatic Aberrations in each image shot with it and it doesn’t have the motors to handle AF on a moving subject with the A1 or A9iii. A Sigma from a decade ago gives the 24GM a run for its money when it comes to optical quality. It is time for a brighter, sharper, faster 24 Prime for 8K
@@hikertrashfilms good to know! I haven't personally used it but the initial reviews seemed to like it...but maybe that's just Sony influencers lol
@@learningcamerasmost reviews show the chromatic abrasion issues with the 24GM, but it’s an issue for that focal length. Manny Ortiz video is the first one and once you see that, that glass is wack. 20G, 50 1.2GM, 135GM is my setup until a capable 24mm arrives for the A1.
@@learningcamerasif Sony is too arrogant to admit the shortcomings of the 24GM, then Sigma should drop a Bigma 24 1.2 for Nikon users to have access to 1.2 24/50/85 Primes, then we’ll see Sony be forced to answer
I realize peeps are hostage to that ecosystem, but I could care less about Canon! R1 is vapor anyway…
I mean, go look at any images of the photographers at the Olympics... It's mostly Canon glass with a few Nikon’s thrown in! Let's see if that changes this year
@@learningcameras it’s true I don’t have the historical perspective and appreciation for what Canon has meant for artists over the years - but my perspective of them tends to being really heavy handed and taking their patrons, for granted, in certain ways?
@@cogmission1 Yeah, the way Canon approached the transition to mirrorless does make them come off that way. But remember, there were more Canon EF lenses, even from 3rd parties, than ANY other system in existence so Canon was extremely open and I hope they return to that stance soon. But definitely during the transition to mirrorless (which they are still not 100% done with), there were TONs of decisions made from a board room of suits that didn't benefit the end user like not allowing 3rd parties and software limiting cameras. Sony had the advantage of not really having anything to protect.
We're seeing this in the transition to electric cars as well where Tesla goes all out with speed on their cars while traditional ICE car brands limit EV abilities to protect their bread and butter ICE cars and performance lines. It might make BMW's M devision a bit worried if any standard 3 series EV can beat a $100,000 M3 off the line yet a $45,000 Tesla 3 can. So we're seeing companies software limit their EV's like Canon software limited the first few rounds of RF cameras.
@@learningcameras All good points. I appreciate your perspective as a long standing professional in the industry. I had my opinion sullied by the time of my entrance into the market (2019), and choosing Panasonic due to their emphasis on thorough videography tools - then later getting crushed by the sense that they weren’t listening to their patrons, screaming about auto focus!
So the last move I would make leaving Panasonic would be to go to Canon, who seem like the poster boy for ignoring and negligence, and outright guile…
Sony seemed like the only rational choice… Because I wasn’t making enough money to cross invest in glass from different manufacturers, and couldn’t afford to take a loss in order to switch in total? Then, when I saw Sony’s consistent trend toward innovation and customer response, I was sold!
Now I’m thinking about going to red because I’m just not happy with the A7S3-based sensors! I bought an A1 because of the improvement in color, science and innovation, but I had to get rid of it after Covid and loss of income! And now I’m happy I did because Sony seems to be prioritizing gimmicky advancements more than color, science and secret sauce?
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@@learningcameras thank you!
I’m looking for a true cine FX body from Sony this year, such as an FX9 MarkII. THAT I would shell out the $ to purchase. Let that system rise to 6k with hopefully an internal X-OCN option (like the Burano) and CFExpressB media. The FX3 is fine where it is for another year I think, though yes, the A7SIII is getting out of date as a hybrid. It will be interesting to see what they do there.
Don't buy R8, same crap battery and overheats
Yeah but it doesn't have much competition except with 3+ year old cameras that are actually based on 5+ year old cameras. So the Sony A7C for example might have the larger battery, but it's 5 year old tech which makes a difference with autofocus, sensor read speeds, and video...and it's still more expensive than the R8!
R8 slays for the price point.