This your best review yet. I thought the problem was with me, with the NXT-R so squeaky, and I have exactly the same issues on the corner, and that was just after a day or so of use. Since I'm new to window cleaning, I thought that I was doing something wrong. Too bad the Unger green is almost impossible to find in Canada for the last few months now and if you find, it's soooo expensive. I'm giving a try to Dimond Black, at the moment is the best value rubber. I'm buying som Moerman black rubber as well and I'll try the Pulex. Everything else, with the exception of the NXT-R, is way more expensive at the moment.
Same experience. I Can only use NXTR it in the winter in Northern MN. Wagtail blue fits my 2.0 and 3.0 channels without much movement, and hasn't been too hard for the cold.
I’ve just got the 12 inch liquidator after using unger s squeegees for 17 year thought I’d give it a try. I’ve just put my usual pulex soft rubber in and used the under s handle. I find I have to press really hard on the glass otherwise it’s not taking all the soap of the glass and missing patches in the middle.
@@TradMan No mate I just full the bucket up with soapy water and get a dip when needed, I did buy a 14 inch used it with the rubber that it came with, sent it back then watched your video so ordered another in 12 inch and tried with different rubber. It is better but still Easyer with the old faithful, maybe I just need more practise with the Morman🤷🏼♂️
To get the moerman to work properly you need to apply soap to the applicator and not the water. Use a clean bucket of water, then after dunking your applicator, apply a line of soap on each side of the applicator and then rub the glass with the applicator. You'll notice the solution is more stable and will find its more slippy than watery soap from the bucket. Give that a go and see how it goes for you. 😎🤜🏻🤛🏻
I bought a 18 inch 3.0 with a razor red rubber in it not a good fit for me it sticks the glass if I straight pull down I can get away with it I’m going try a Ettore in it to see if that makes it slide nice as I use them in the 2.0 and today tried the Tesco’s eucalyptus brilliant slip and control and it actually made me faster with less effort and the ettore rubber was over a week old but felt like new honestly worth a try I love the moreman range.
If your using this tool correctly you won't need to detail the glass but to wipe frames etc I use a maykker handy sleeve with a cloth over it on a phantom pole
I agree with the nxt. I actually stopped using my liquidator because i thought that was the issue not the rubber. Popped a razr red in it one day on an off chance and thoroughly enjoyed it. Loving the green now though almost feels a shame i rarely clean windows anymore!
Thanks ...was just about to order the squeaky rubber...so I'm buying a 3.0 and NOW unger rubber...I need 5/6 mtr pole ...probably fibre composition lookin to spend around £150 for pole ( might upgrade later ) can you recommend a pole system that would connect withe the 3.0 ? Does unger connect?
Hey Peter, In Australia, our Moerman distributor is now selling 3.0 clips in packs of 10. So for A$28.00/£15.00 I can update 5 channels with 3.0 clips. This week my first NXT-R rubber is arriving. Keep you posted on my thoughts on its quality, remembering your experience with it. 😁👍
My very first time trying trad was the 3.0 and the nxtr rubber!!!! Even as a noob I knew the rubber was not good. I had watched your vids so bought some extra Yellow rubber from Cleaning Spot at same time as the Liquidator 3.0 and wow it's so much better, great rubber.
bonne vidéo l'ami, perso j'ai mis les clips unger dans la barrette moerman avant les clips 3.0 que je remet ensuite et cela fonctionne bien aussi ,,,quand penses tu !!bravo et merci pour ton boulot et tes vidéos, qui me fait progresser pour le simple employé français que je suis ,une vidéo sur les portes difficiles,avec poignées et vitres avec accés impossible serait cool aussi ,,,bon week end
Do you have any tips for using the green rubber in the liquidator channels? The rubber always seems to be just a tad bit too long and I end up with a ton of rainbow streaks.
Yeah they said they had tightened it up a bit more, still need something to pinch the rubber. It was suggested to moerman years ago to sell there own inserts but they never did
I love the Moerman stuff the Fliq pad is great but that NXT-R blue Rubber is not great I first thought wow it hits the ground running but it soon fails 🤷♂️ Squeals going to give the Green unger rubber a go though hearing good things about that
Hi mate, not seen any videos for a while, thanks for this 👍 one. Can't see the point of Moerman manufacturing these clips, if no different? Seems strange, you say 🤔 you still have to put end clips in...do you think you could be using too much soap for slip,possibly? Also I'm gobsmacked at the timescale of one side of the rubber...one week, wow! Try cutting down old rubbers, or those that you don't like....don't bin them!..and use them on a small squeegee to do the tops and side first...this will help your main squeegee rubber last months!
It was suggested to moerman years ago to make there own little insert clips but for some reason they just think that the blue end clip is sufficient when in fact the rubber just moves around causing lines on the glass. I never have issues with unger green or ettore master. moerman need to sort this rubber out, bigger bulb to get better hold in the clips, and sort out the squeaking / durability issues. I always pin the rubber anyway as this ensures it doesn't pull out the channel at all
@@TradMan i find moerman soft in the 2.0 unbeatable . Like kids in a sweet shop aren't we, so 🤷 much choice of squeegee and rubbers... Been working hard, looking for a boab that doesn't nick the rubbers, very important in my book, decided on a very soft , flexible material, don't see these for sale anywhere, fabulous, lightweight, kind on the squeegee rubbers. Had to search high and low, found one in my local cleaning shop for a fiver! The hard plastic boabs are awful...ALL of them.
Yeah there's not a massive difference at all between the 3.0 and 2.0. It's a tiny bit more forgiving on some window types but most folks won't notice much difference at all.
I've found the NXTR work amazingly well for a couple of days but sadly that's all the use I get before spinning the rubber. Green Unger or Ettore rubber Tradman?
As always: great video ! Honest, and realistic ! After watching a lot of your videos I gave Moerman and „zero detailing“ a try and it worked surprisingly well. I had to change my technique what took a little bit but it worked. I also changed to the green UNGER rubber because of the reasons you mentioned. Now I think the rubber ends stick out too much and „zero detailing“ is not as perfect as it was before…. In my opinion…. In your video the UNGER rubber looks narrower 🤷♂️? Did you cut it ?
@@TradMan "pop in a unger green clip to hold rubber nice and tight" I think it would be nice if Moerman designed a clip that works properly instead of the customer needing to correct its deficiency by adding Unger clips! To me this seems very possible; I don't understand why Moerman does not do it.
Nice video bud thinking of getting the new 3.0 channel myself and some green rubbers. Where sells those green rubbers window cleaning warehouse?? Also whats your discount code again for that site forgot it again is it TRAD10 thanks in advance 👍
Nxtr rubber way too soft for me. I don’t mind how it performs but wears out on edges way too quickly. Found that wagtail black rubber works great with liquidator. For me. I tried them all, Ettore rubber is terrible with this tool
Miss your videos! you explain perfectly! Thanks for this important info: i thought something goes wrong with me or i get stupid: noise on the glas, rubber broken so fast, strings everywhere.... Now i know: its not me who is stupid, its this ridicolous blue rubber !
Hey TradMan! Always a fan of your vids, I'm glad I subscribed a while back! Question for you; it looks like the 3.0's new design comes with what looks like a clip at the end of the channel. I take it you don't use that since you don't cut your rubbers to fit the shape of the end of the channel. I plan on using Ettore Master rubbers and Unger clips. I assume that if I did cut the rubbers to fit, I couldn't fit the Unger clips while also using the new clips at the end of the channel... ??
Hi! Thank you for your kind comment 😊 You can use the unger green clips, you'll find with ettore rubber its a tight fit anyway as it's got a bigger bulb at the bottom. The unger clips will help to stop any pulling if you go over a bit too much dry glass when fanning or on a surface with high friction etc.
Great review Pete. I think for the amount I use it I will stick with the one I have and the Unger rubber thats in it.👍 The squeaky bit sounds good though 😜
For me it's the opposite. The unger is like an eraser to me, no matter how much soap I use. even with the ungerly soap. the moerman rubber, on the other hand, slides like ice skates on ice. But there are also very rare glasses on which the green rubber is unbeatable! here in germany this type of glass is very rare. i love the nxt rubber it lasts longer than ettore's.
Interesting! Sounds like the nxtr rubber is hit and miss. More seem to dislike than like but some do seem to get on ok with it. For me I need a rubber thats consistent, reliable and good quality. Ettore and Unger have done very well with the rubber but Moerman has always been hit and miss, sometimes it's good next its not. Shame really. Glad your getting some use from it though 😉
I seen that u didn't to, I will try that, I take it u just have to take a few millimeters of 1 end as the green rubber is slightly longer. Just makein sure b4 I wreck a couple of rubbers lol
Your great videos helped me a lot. I have not started my business yet, but I tested it with several squeegees and rubbers. I have a question. I think a slight movement, a characteristic of the rotating handle (EXCELERATOR2.0) from above the 18 inch channel of the liquidator, has a great influence on the pressure that rubber exerts on the glass, what do you think? I used a translator. I hope the meaning was conveyed well. If you don't understand anything, please let me know! The comments that I wrote keep disappearing..
@@TradMan Thank you for your answer. I saw you write about liquidator 18 inch in the WCR community and read all the comments on it. I saw an opinion that it works well with fixed handles at 18 and 22 inches. Is this related to your use of 16 inches in maximum size? For your information, I think the liquidator is the most efficient tool and is conducting several tests. :)
This your best review yet. I thought the problem was with me, with the NXT-R so squeaky, and I have exactly the same issues on the corner, and that was just after a day or so of use. Since I'm new to window cleaning, I thought that I was doing something wrong. Too bad the Unger green is almost impossible to find in Canada for the last few months now and if you find, it's soooo expensive. I'm giving a try to Dimond Black, at the moment is the best value rubber. I'm buying som Moerman black rubber as well and I'll try the Pulex. Everything else, with the exception of the NXT-R, is way more expensive at the moment.
Same experience. I Can only use NXTR it in the winter in Northern MN. Wagtail blue fits my 2.0 and 3.0 channels without much movement, and hasn't been too hard for the cold.
I found the 3.0 helps with the nxt-r rubber but it's still not a great rubber. Never found the need for extra clips in any of my liquidator
I’ve just got the 12 inch liquidator after using unger s squeegees for 17 year thought I’d give it a try. I’ve just put my usual pulex soft rubber in and used the under s handle. I find I have to press really hard on the glass otherwise it’s not taking all the soap of the glass and missing patches in the middle.
Are you putting soap on the applicator after dunking in water then rubbing the glass to get a good solution?
@@TradMan
No mate I just full the bucket up with soapy water and get a dip when needed, I did buy a 14 inch used it with the rubber that it came with, sent it back then watched your video so ordered another in 12 inch and tried with different rubber. It is better but still Easyer with the old faithful, maybe I just need more practise with the Morman🤷🏼♂️
To get the moerman to work properly you need to apply soap to the applicator and not the water. Use a clean bucket of water, then after dunking your applicator, apply a line of soap on each side of the applicator and then rub the glass with the applicator. You'll notice the solution is more stable and will find its more slippy than watery soap from the bucket. Give that a go and see how it goes for you. 😎🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@TradMan
Yeah will do mate, thanks, keep up the great vids 👍🏻👍🏻
I bought a 18 inch 3.0 with a razor red rubber in it not a good fit for me it sticks the glass if I straight pull down I can get away with it I’m going try a Ettore in it to see if that makes it slide nice as I use them in the 2.0 and today tried the Tesco’s eucalyptus brilliant slip and control and it actually made me faster with less effort and the ettore rubber was over a week old but felt like new honestly worth a try I love the moreman range.
Hi, good Vídeo, One question? It is necesary cut rubber green like The blue rubber Moerman? Because i Saw that you dont cut your green rubber
You can do it either way 😉
Whats the best way to detail the top floor windows with a pole? It's mainly the top I'm having problems with
If your using this tool correctly you won't need to detail the glass but to wipe frames etc I use a maykker handy sleeve with a cloth over it on a phantom pole
I agree with the nxt. I actually stopped using my liquidator because i thought that was the issue not the rubber. Popped a razr red in it one day on an off chance and thoroughly enjoyed it.
Loving the green now though almost feels a shame i rarely clean windows anymore!
😎🤜🏻🤛🏻
Thanks ...was just about to order the squeaky rubber...so I'm buying a 3.0 and NOW unger rubber...I need 5/6 mtr pole ...probably fibre composition lookin to spend around £150 for pole ( might upgrade later ) can you recommend a pole system that would connect withe the 3.0 ? Does unger connect?
Unger poles connect to moerman squeegees 👍🏻
So we don't need to cut the rubber at an angle?
You don't have to. Works either way. Looks a bit better cutting the angles though
Hey Peter,
In Australia, our Moerman distributor is now selling 3.0 clips in packs of 10. So for A$28.00/£15.00 I can update 5 channels with 3.0 clips.
This week my first NXT-R rubber is arriving. Keep you posted on my thoughts on its quality, remembering your experience with it. 😁👍
Excellent, hope your keeping well bro 👍🏻
Hey, what was your experience with it?
hello, fits the liqudator 3.0 in a unger classic bucket?
No I think it'll be too tight I'm afraid
My very first time trying trad was the 3.0 and the nxtr rubber!!!! Even as a noob I knew the rubber was not good. I had watched your vids so bought some extra Yellow rubber from Cleaning Spot at same time as the Liquidator 3.0 and wow it's so much better, great rubber.
Nice one 😎🤜🏻🤛🏻
bonne vidéo l'ami, perso j'ai mis les clips unger dans la barrette moerman avant les clips 3.0 que je remet ensuite et cela fonctionne bien aussi ,,,quand penses tu !!bravo et merci pour ton boulot et tes vidéos, qui me fait progresser pour le simple employé français que je suis ,une vidéo sur les portes difficiles,avec poignées et vitres avec accés impossible serait cool aussi ,,,bon week end
Do you have any tips for using the green rubber in the liquidator channels? The rubber always seems to be just a tad bit too long and I end up with a ton of rainbow streaks.
Cut the rubber at the same length as the channel. Use unger green clips to help hold the rubber in place.
Tu fais une coupe droite sur le caoutchouc vert? tu ne reprend pas la forme en biseau du bleu ?
Tu fais une coupe droite sur le caoutchouc vert? tu ne reprend pas la forme en biseau du bleu ?
Completely agree on the NXTR, like you more for being so honest about your thoughts on it 👍.
Thanks kindly
How did you manage to get the unger clips in the 3.0? Been trying for a bit finding it very very tight even I've wet the channel to help a bit
Pop a bit of soap in the ends to. Over time it gets easier I've found. When they are new it is tight
@@TradMan will give it another try in the morning mate. Yeah noticed it got easier with thr 2.0 but seems alot tighter 3.0
Yeah they said they had tightened it up a bit more, still need something to pinch the rubber. It was suggested to moerman years ago to sell there own inserts but they never did
I love the Moerman stuff the Fliq pad is great but that NXT-R blue Rubber is not great I first thought wow it hits the ground running but it soon fails 🤷♂️ Squeals going to give the Green unger rubber a go though hearing good things about that
Hi mate, not seen any videos for a while, thanks for this 👍 one.
Can't see the point of Moerman manufacturing these clips, if no different?
Seems strange, you say 🤔 you still have to put end clips in...do you think you could be using too much soap for slip,possibly?
Also I'm gobsmacked at the timescale of one side of the rubber...one week, wow! Try cutting down old rubbers, or those that you don't like....don't bin them!..and use them on a small squeegee to do the tops and side first...this will help your main squeegee rubber last months!
It was suggested to moerman years ago to make there own little insert clips but for some reason they just think that the blue end clip is sufficient when in fact the rubber just moves around causing lines on the glass.
I never have issues with unger green or ettore master. moerman need to sort this rubber out, bigger bulb to get better hold in the clips, and sort out the squeaking / durability issues.
I always pin the rubber anyway as this ensures it doesn't pull out the channel at all
@@TradMan i find moerman soft in the 2.0 unbeatable . Like kids in a sweet shop aren't we, so 🤷 much choice of squeegee and rubbers...
Been working hard, looking for a boab that doesn't nick the rubbers, very important in my book, decided on a very soft , flexible material, don't see these for sale anywhere, fabulous, lightweight, kind on the squeegee rubbers.
Had to search high and low, found one in my local cleaning shop for a fiver!
The hard plastic boabs are awful...ALL of them.
Would you say it’s no big difference if you use Ettore rubber in 2.0 channel compared with 3.0 channel?
You'll find the ettore will be tight to get in the 3.0 you'll need soap to lubricate the squeegee rubber so you can get it in the channel.
@@TradMan Maybe then it’s better to stick with 2.0 channel? Thanx for the info. Hope you get a chance to make a video with Pulex Unihandle.
Yeah there's not a massive difference at all between the 3.0 and 2.0. It's a tiny bit more forgiving on some window types but most folks won't notice much difference at all.
Has anyone struggled with the under clips? One side fits perfect but the other keeps falling out even if I change the clip.
I've found the NXTR work amazingly well for a couple of days but sadly that's all the use I get before spinning the rubber.
Green Unger or Ettore rubber Tradman?
Yup give em a go 😉👌🏻
As always: great video ! Honest, and realistic !
After watching a lot of your videos I gave Moerman and „zero detailing“ a try and it worked surprisingly well.
I had to change my technique what took a little bit but it worked.
I also changed to the green UNGER rubber because of the reasons you mentioned.
Now I think the rubber ends stick out too much and „zero detailing“ is not as perfect as it was before…. In my opinion…. In your video the UNGER rubber looks narrower 🤷♂️? Did you cut it ?
I cut the rubber so its flush at the ends of the blue end clip. Then pop in a unger green clip to hold rubber nice and tight
@@TradMan thanks for your answer !
Great to hear, so I will cut it 👍👍
@@TradMan "pop in a unger green clip to hold rubber nice and tight" I think it would be nice if Moerman designed a clip that works properly instead of the customer needing to correct its deficiency by adding Unger clips! To me this seems very possible; I don't understand why Moerman does not do it.
Nice video bud thinking of getting the new 3.0 channel myself and some green rubbers. Where sells those green rubbers window cleaning warehouse?? Also whats your discount code again for that site forgot it again is it TRAD10 thanks in advance 👍
Yeah buddy TRADMAN10 at window cleaning warehouse 😎🤜🏻🤛🏻
Do you put a full green unger clip in or cut it in half? Thanks for your help!
A full one buddy 😎👍🏻
Nxtr rubber way too soft for me. I don’t mind how it performs but wears out on edges way too quickly. Found that wagtail black rubber works great with liquidator. For me. I tried them all, Ettore rubber is terrible with this tool
Miss your videos! you explain perfectly! Thanks for this important info: i thought something goes wrong with me or i get stupid: noise on the glas, rubber broken so fast, strings everywhere.... Now i know: its not me who is stupid, its this ridicolous blue rubber !
Yeah the rubber is no good. Maybe you can use the blue rubber to wedge a door open or prop up a wobbly table 🤔 🤣🤣
@@TradMan great idea, i will do so :-)
🤣😉
Hey TradMan! Always a fan of your vids, I'm glad I subscribed a while back! Question for you; it looks like the 3.0's new design comes with what looks like a clip at the end of the channel. I take it you don't use that since you don't cut your rubbers to fit the shape of the end of the channel. I plan on using Ettore Master rubbers and Unger clips. I assume that if I did cut the rubbers to fit, I couldn't fit the Unger clips while also using the new clips at the end of the channel... ??
Hi! Thank you for your kind comment 😊
You can use the unger green clips, you'll find with ettore rubber its a tight fit anyway as it's got a bigger bulb at the bottom. The unger clips will help to stop any pulling if you go over a bit too much dry glass when fanning or on a surface with high friction etc.
Great review Pete. I think for the amount I use it I will stick with the one I have and the Unger rubber thats in it.👍 The squeaky bit sounds good though 😜
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For me it's the opposite. The unger is like an eraser to me, no matter how much soap I use. even with the ungerly soap. the moerman rubber, on the other hand, slides like ice skates on ice. But there are also very rare glasses on which the green rubber is unbeatable! here in germany this type of glass is very rare. i love the nxt rubber it lasts longer than ettore's.
Interesting! Sounds like the nxtr rubber is hit and miss. More seem to dislike than like but some do seem to get on ok with it.
For me I need a rubber thats consistent, reliable and good quality. Ettore and Unger have done very well with the rubber but Moerman has always been hit and miss, sometimes it's good next its not. Shame really.
Glad your getting some use from it though 😉
There are good rubbers in the market. That blue rubber has some manufacturing problem.
some cut their rubbers to be the same as the moerman but you don't?
Nope, you don't need to, try it 😉
I seen that u didn't to, I will try that, I take it u just have to take a few millimeters of 1 end as the green rubber is slightly longer. Just makein sure b4 I wreck a couple of rubbers lol
this guy definitely got his intro style from the 2020 lockdowns "tiger king" carole baskin days 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your great videos helped me a lot. I have not started my business yet, but I tested it with several squeegees and rubbers. I have a question.
I think a slight movement, a characteristic of the rotating handle (EXCELERATOR2.0) from above the 18 inch channel of the liquidator, has a great influence on the pressure that rubber exerts on the glass, what do you think?
I used a translator. I hope the meaning was conveyed well. If you don't understand anything, please let me know!
The comments that I wrote keep disappearing..
The excelerator handles do have slight movement, if it's too tight it he hard to change angles, it be tight and stiff.
@@TradMan Thank you for your answer.
I saw you write about liquidator 18 inch in the WCR community and read all the comments on it. I saw an opinion that it works well with fixed handles at 18 and 22 inches. Is this related to your use of 16 inches in maximum size?
For your information, I think the liquidator is the most efficient tool and is conducting several tests. :)
I tried that NXT Rubber and it sounded like I was killing a baby this morning
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