I had a 42 year career in Pharmacy and discovered that the last thing that I wanted to do was be a retail pharmacist. I found that you can use a Pharmacy degree to go in a lot of different directions. I ended up in Hospital Pharmacy management and enjoyed it most of the time. Other options are Compounding Pharmacy, Nursing Home Pharmacy, Research, FDA, DEA, Military. I even know a Pharmacist who went into criminal justice and became a Forensic Pharmacist. Also, another Pharmacist became a legal researcher and work for a law firm. So, look around, get varied rotations and try different aspects of Pharmacy and you will find your niche. It is a good profession but retail is tough. Good Luck
You are 16 man. You got plenty of time to figure it out. Medicine, or engineering would be the best. Law is saturated but if you get into the best schools still beats pharmacy
I was a pharmacist for 30 years, I enjoyed it, and it was rewarding. Most of the time, jobs were plentiful. Towards the end, jobs started to dry up. I read an article by a pharmacist my age in which he stated the number of pharmacy schools in the USA has doubled in the last 40 years. I believe there are too many pharmacy schools in the USA now.
@@samuelm7782 This is a disappointing thing to keep hearing. :( I love working at the pharmacy, (I am a tech) it is my favorite job yet. I am 25 and at a cross roads.
@@coffeepandacat Eventually they'll automate the field heavily. My aunt does that specifically after 20 years of being pharmacy technician now traveling the entire country. Worst place she went was a prison facility Alaska during a snow storm. Her favorite place is Hawaii nursing home.
Guys this video is from Oct 2019. This is PRE-COVID. Pharmacists make way more than $35-$40/hr for new grads. Even back then it was never that low. Right now it’s more like between $50-$70 an hr
Coswagrigus Don’t sunken cost fallacy it. Gtfo and pivot into something else. When you see a career choice that is on the decline and at risk of being automated, you turn the other way
This is basically an american problem i think its worth you mentioning this so not to discourage future pharmacist who are young and impressionable from countries like Canada, the Uk, south America and the carribean where there are hardly any pharmacist and the demand is high I use to listen to videos like these and think it was for every country cause this is a universal platform but when i began asking people i realized that there are hundred of jobs available stores and communities begging for pharmacies walgreens and cvs and walmart has only infiltrated America the rest of the world is leaps and bounds behind America in terms of automation accreditation isnt even required in most carribean and latin american pharmacies all kind of improvement and work is needed if any of you qualified pharmacist need a job reforming the carribbeans pharmacy system you are needed and will be appreciated people are literally dying cause of how backwards our system is its crazy
Ranika where? Do you mean what jobs? Any medical job other than dentists and physicians basically (NPs, PAs, nurses, PT etc) are all dealing w/ saturation.
As a recently graduated pharmacist (this year), I can confirm this is a very American problem. Pharmacy is brilliant in Ireland right now, very high demand. Added to the fact that student debt is practically non existent for school leavers, pharmacy is a great option imo. Praying it stays that way.
@@kosiqueensly4506 I think that these 10 pharmacists that are currently taking off from the airport and going to Ireland will completly colapse job market. :)
That's interesting! I've spoken with quite a few Irish community pharmacists in the last three years that have sentiments that oppose this view - especially with regards to community pharmacy in Ireland (dealing with the government schemes in community pharmacy is a nightmare in comparison to other countries like the UK). I've heard that the salary in hospital pharmacy in Ireland is not too great and that in general, the pharmacy profession in Ireland is just not as valued.
@@sheabutterandroses I was fresh out of college walking into a high paying job when I first wrote that post, but a year post grad now I can understand why the pharmacists you spoke to felt that way, particularly in community pharmacy. While the salary is still excellent in comparison to other career paths with the a similar time investment imo (particularly if you're a locum pharmacist), the stress levels can be through the roof and the scheme system in this country is years behind the UK and other countries. Regarding hospital pharmacy, I have heard that talks between hospital pharmacists and the HSE are ongoing re salary increases but I do agree that hospital pharmacists are drastically undervalued, especially in comparison to community pharmacists.
Man I used to watch your videos when I was applying to pharm school about 4 years ago. I’m now in my fourth year on rotations and its kinda crazy how things have changed. I think its important for people to do their research before going into any profession. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
I understand what you are saying. I graduated in 1997 before the 6th year was required (a mistake in making mandatory if you ask me) and before all.the new pharmacy schools came online. I had minimal loans because I only paid for my 5th year. I went into pharmacy school knowing I didn't want to be a retail pharmacist. I discovered nuclear pharmacy and have been extremely happy with my career at one of the best hospitals in the country. If you're passionate about chemistry and medications look into nuclear, industry, and plenty of other options for pharmacists outside of retail. Also, I'm a strong believer in public colleges. There's no need to go into debt for a pharmacy degree.
Switching from pharmacy school was one of the most difficult things for me to do. I had wanted to do pharmacy since junior year of highschool and had bought all the study material for the pcat and told family members I wanted to be pharmacist for a long time. And switching and preparing for a whole new career path was daunting. But I made the switch and I'm glad I did before enrolling in pharmacy school. For those who are having a difficult time making the decision, just know it will be hard especially if ur still in college to make a switch but its not impossible. It sucks at first but it gets easier
im in your position right now, im in highschool and I wanted to do pharmacy for a long time, but now it doesn't seem like a good choice? What did u decide to become instead?
OLADAPO BRO You are still in high school. I suggest to Major in computer engineering and take some pre med classes to decide medicine or engineering. Nursing is not a bad field either- less loans and finish school faster to purse CRNA or NP
Im in my first year 6 yr pharmD program. I think I might switch because of the saturation but at the same time im super scared, because I don't know what else to do.
As a recent pharmacy graduate, I have no plans to practice because I completely agree with you. I am not passionate about the field and I strive for a better income and pharmacy doesn't provide that. Honestly wish I knew 4 years ago but I was lucky enough to get into pharmacy school at a young age Should've become a dentist lmao
You won't feel passionate after any four year degree. Passion comes with more autonomy. Work in your field, rack up some cash, then switch if you want to
I was at the point of applying to my pharmacy schools and after working my butt off the past four years in and out of the classroom to get to myself to pharmacy school I decided It wasn’t for me anymore and I’ve been on the fence because I’ve put so much time and hard work till now.. I realized my passion was blind sided and it wasn’t for me. This video helped me a lot, given that I needed some reassurance about my decision and still was a little bit on the fence. Thank you for this!!
Jaw Dan I’m getting my bachelors in communications actually, I wanted to do my major in something I enjoyed, I just did my pre-reqs ontop of my major coursework. I got lucky since my major is so open ended. Maybe you could do a masters in public health and work in health care still? Or do research?
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I believe that before even enrolling in undergrad, students need to work in customer service and find out how well they can handle complaints and irate customers. If students dislike this part of customer service, they will not enjoy dealing with the complaints that many healthcare providers, such as retail and hospital pharmacists, receive. This would be a case when students should not dream of those careers. I say this because I hope this can save students time and money in their schooling.
When I went to pharmacy school, everyone , family and friends , just kept calling me a future druggie.....honestly people are so ignorant when it comes to having a true passion in the field
i worked as a retail pharmacy tech and the pharmacist gets disrespected all the time they are verbally attacked a lot it is a depressing environment to work in.
As a pharmacist for almost 8 years now. it's the worst in the healthcare sector. if you're not a pharmacist or at least worked in a pharmacy, you will not understand what we're talking about.
Long time pharmacist and multiple pharmacy owner, I can now hire a pharmacist for half of what I did just 5 years ago. The ever declining insurance reimbursements are taking their toll. This is no longer a profession, you will just be a pimp for the insurance companies.
@@joshuaallen9501 computer science, accounting, finance, any engineering major, certain science majors, nursing are all solid picks. Basically anything in business/tech is safe.
Pharmacy is the only thing I can think of currently. Ik its difficult but at the same time anything is possible if you really put time and effort into it. Good luck to everyone!
I finally decided to get out of pharmacy. It’s not what it used to be. 1) There are too many schools of pharmacy that have opened up. 2) Some schools have lowered their qualifications since I was in school. 3) Corporations like Walgreens and CVS are more focused on metrics that have no impact on patient care such as signing people up for reward programs and getting a prescription filled in 15 minutes or less. 4) Staff has been cut down to the bone. It has become more like working in a fast food setting than a professional environment. 5) The respect we get as medical professionals has declined.
I used to watch this channel 6 years ago when I was applying to pharmacy schools. As a retail pharmacist I agree 100% with everything said in the video. :(
The video talks about the inability to find a job. This commenter says she is already a retail pharmacist and so this video doesn't apply to her but she just agrees with the video @@user-lu6yg3vk9z
Do your residency, dont settle for retail! Unless u want to hear from your district leader that your pharmacy store “numbers” are not looking good and you can possibly get moved to a different store or even become a floater! Go into a hospital setting!
@@peter828 well I changed my mind in the last second I went to dental college and thank God it was a perfect choice This video was very helpful and thank you for the advice sir anyway
@@kyyahabdul..yes...l read all these comments and..um now in confusion...how l will pursue my career on that..is it demanding?..if it is..then in which country...l can make a good career..
Hi Paul. I am also a pharmacist. Actually choosing pharmacy, I don't mean a bad choice but it's not wise too. It has been really tough to get a good start. Even in pharmaceutical industries there is a lot of pressure. Everything is time bound. Thanks for the video.
I would say that in Sweden you get pretty much the job before you even graduate! They are need of pharmacist here and u can choose between 3 years or 5 years :)
They are bringing people all over the world to Sweden. Becouse no one with a right mind goes now to pharmacy school. But nowhere in Europe including Sweden you get decent pay as a pharmacist.
@@aleksander4711 wdym, so every pharmacist wasn't in their right mind?. Do u know how important it is to have a pharmacist. We are called drug experts. And u do get paid enough to make a living. Also payment is different If u work at pharmacy or somewhere else
@@M0N4.9 In Poland where im from and I guess in Sweden too as retail pharmacist you are Just mediator between shelf and clients bag giving Little to no value. Professionally time spent in pharmacy is wasted in terms of increasing your value as a worker becouse it is in reality very easy job that someone after 6 months is able to perform. Market in Sweden is on the raise now but soon it Will get saturated. In Poland it happend in 10 years. Edit: I called retail pharmacist mediator but it is more like an obstacle with his wages for anybody in the system, for patient to get his medicine fast and cheap , for pharmacy owner to get his profit. Almost nobody in Poland wants to end in pharmacy selling drugs but almost everybody does . Chances of job in industry are very low.
@@aleksander4711 Yes, there may be different systems for each country. But for your information, a pharmacist is not just a mediator between a client and the drugs. As I said before, we are called "drug expert" which means drug expert. Doctors are not the best when it comes to drugs and they can make many mistakes that lead to serious side effects or deaths for the customer. There are many times a pharmacist saved lives. so you say it's a waste of time I do not really agree. In every job there is something bad and something good about the job. And here there are several specializations with pharmacies. it's not just sitting behind the counter.
This is so unfair and fucked up that you guys up there in the US have to reconsider your dreams just because you don't have rich parents while here in Germany you don't need to pay anything to reach your goals...
Lol, socialism is the key right? Because it has worked all through time right? Get outta here youngster, money does not grow in trees. Somebody has to pay. You don’t walk up and order a Big Mac and say let me pay for it later, NO. You either pay or don’t eat son!
@@Toyotaguru i think he is just trying to say that school expenses make students reconsider their dreams. despite of their dream making them happy, it will just drown them in debts
@SirGrowsAlot said an American? Sounds so funny to me after all that has been happening in your country ;) but I guess I dont need to remind you of the history of your country, do I? :)
@s v My comment was a reaction to the racist statement of Sirgrowsalot... Comparing evil to evil doesn't make any sense. However, once someone from the USA calls a random German a Nazi while American history is based on slavery during which over 20 Million African people had been murderend, massive on the genocide of indigenous peoples, provocation of wars in the middle east, still a large racism towards people of color, etc., then I of course have to react! I am not saying, every American is a racist and an evil person with an evil past. But if an American wants to call me a Nazi for no reason, just because I feel sorry for you to pay so much for your education while here it is for free, which was my wish for all of you (what a Nazi-thing to do!), then I want to remind such people of the fact, their past had not been any better... Peace to you, my friend :)
thinking about going into pharmacy school, so thanks for the video, even though its from 4 years ago. If pharmacy does not work out for me Ill just have to suck it up and get a job with my engineering degree. But really want to do pharmacist thing instead.
In Bangladesh, it was great in the 2010s but the market is heavily oversaturated nowadays due to a sheer amount of colleges and universities offering the degree. I assume the same for the rest of South Asia.
@@t.a6159 hi bhai, to the best of my knowledge, BD pharmaceutical industries like Square, Beximco, etc. are a little oversaturated rn, although I'm not sure how it is rn. In 2018, Pharmacy was trending but it kinda fell off post-covid. If you can get into DU, you should be fine.
Pharmacy goes beyond money. So as you said, if you're going for the money, don't try. If you're passionate, definitely go for it. However, I think doing pharmacy gives you a lot of job opportunities.... The commonest yet choking part is the hospital and retail. However, with the skills you'll develop and knowledge you'll get in pharmacy, you just have to think outside the box to make decent money. Also, with the way things are going, no matter which field you find yourself in, to get lots of money, you'd have to set up your own business..... Applies to doctors, nurses, graphic designers, whatever course..... To make wealth, you MUST set up YOUR own business.
Let me stop you right there. Independent pharmacies are dying because of poor insurance reimbursements. The Supreme Court recently ruled that PBM's now have to pay at least the cost of the med. Independent pharmacies are STILL getting negative reimbursement rates from PBM'S. I worked at 4 different independently owned pharmacies and they ALL closed for the same reason: poor insurance reimbursement.
@@jjr04001 By setting up your own business, I didn't mean privately owned pharmacies only. You can be a pharmacist with something like your own coffee shop or car dealership etc.
Interesting video... I agree to an extent.. I still am optimistic about pharmacy.. There is a lot of different roles in pharmacy rising, concierge specialty etc people making their own pharmacy consulting buisness... It depends on where you go, you can still get good pay in some aspects of pharmacy.. When i first graduated i got into specialty and it was good pay, And there are some growth in different areas of pharmacy. In the bls report it also stated that hospital sector will be increasing job impact as well. But i agree that if you have passion you should get in.. If you absolutely don't and just want to for the money you shouldn't get into it, pharmacy is about patient care not just money.
Nothing he said was incorrect or disputable. Currently a pharmacist. Watched the video back in 2012 but ignored the writing on walls. If you are using loans, it is def not worth it.
ITS WORTH IT!my grandmother's pharmacy assistance got a promotion from my grandmother to be a pharmacy,and now there pharmacist,they got wealthy bc of pharmacy as well as my grandma,the salary is worth it if you know how to save money (or if your lazy,and waste money,it ain't gonna work for you)I hated this video so much!
Schools getting rid of the PCAT? What a shame. I was proud to get my degree but pretty soon everyone will be a pharmacist lol. I can't imagine taking $30/hr after all that schooling. Feel fortunate with my current salary.
cicirunner don’t get comfortable. companies will get rid of the expensive pharmacists and replace them with cheaper labor. google walmart fire 40% of its pharmacists staff.
You should never do a career mainly for the money, do a job you will enjoy. If u do it for the money u might not enjoy the job n be miserable everyday at work. The main reason to choose a specific career is bc u enjoy it.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Yes, I actually was so paranoid about it after doing research I reached out to the Dean of VCU's Pharmacy school (my number 1 choice) to have a meeting and discuss whether pharmacy was saturated or not. After I had that meeting with him I still wasn't convinced. I still applied and got accepted but decided that I need to take my life in another direction. So I started preparing for the MCAT and become a doctor like my sister. I was getting the scores I needed to get accepted but I decided that I wouldn't be happy as a physician even if I made a lot of money. Seeing as my sister is overworked and miserable. So now I'm doing what I lowkey wanted to do from the beginning. Which is going into tech and engineering.
Hi! I know this comment is late, but I was wondering if the same counts for pharmacology. I’m really interested in it and it perfectly combines my interest in biology, chemistry and other life sciences. However, I’m in 10th grade and still have time to consider other courses. Therefore I wanted to know whether pharmacology has higher demand in jobs, because it’s more research related and not working in an actual pharmacy, but rather in a lab.
This is the best pharmacy advice on the internet . Being a pharmacist over 30 years the profession. Has really declined to the abyss. There is no future for pharmacist. I have seen young people make the worst decision of their life choosing this profession. I have hired many depressed and broke pharmacist crying over their debt which may become impossible to pay this will run you down and ruin your physical and mental health. There is no need for pharmacists there are no jobs and automation will probably destroy the profession within a decade. Pharmacy school has been the biggest scam colleges have pulled pumping job market demand fake numbers. This is a declining profession and you are doing a great service spreading the message to stop people from making a decision that will ruin their life.
Medicare part D and Obamacare, which dramatically increased the government's rule over medication coverage, has destroyed pharmacy. After paying for rent/lease, utilities, staffing, maintenance, etc. making $3 per prescription makes filling drugs a breakeven business. Because of this, pharmacies had to cut staffing and had to take on other, better margin paying parts of healthcare, such as vaccinations, testing, etc. For example, we had a patient that had a $22,000 special order, drop-shipped from the manufacturer drug. After spending 15 minutes on the phone getting this thing covered by the insurance, ordering it with the risk of the patient not picking it up and demanding his script back to go somewhere else, our after drug costs profit was $5.28 on this script. It's not worth dispensing drugs.
I am passionate about pharmacy and helping people, so I guess this video doesn't apply to me. This is still sad to hear. Here in Estonia it's free to study it, so no student loan. No healthy family though.
If you're in pharmacy school, I would suggest finishing and then getting into PA school. I just about did that when I complete in 2014. I work in a rural hospital and feel slightly protected.
Wait so you mean to go into debt and pay the school for a useless degree. Then sign up for another one? Youre insane. Theyll be 400k in debt with interest by the time theyre a physicians assistant and be paying loans till theyre 60
Wonderful idea! I know another pharmacist who went back and added a PA and now works for a surgical group. Surgeons hate everything other than surgery so they love the PA who takes care of all the non-surgical issues (meds).
Please come and practice Pharmacy here in South Africa. High wages and excellent working conditions. Our state hospitals are spotless with a very high degree of professionalism. Retail pharmacy here in south africa is just absolutely fantastic and private hospital groups are so happy where they are, they just dont want to leave. Lots and lots of jobs available here for pharmacists. Trust me you wont be sorry. Why do you see no south african pharmacists immigrating to the US. Its because they are so happy here.
@@lehlabilemanamela9871 Well i am positive about Pharmacy here in good old SA. I think its a great profession. Lots of opportunities available. I think our ANC govt is doing an absolutely outstanding job. Viva ANC viva.
@@mehlcarelse4319 I don't know if I should take you seriously with your last statement. 😂 Anyway I'm asking because I am about to finish my Commserve and I am anxious about job prospects. The job market is very constricted. Gov doesn't absorb anymore pharmacists unless you are a bursar.
In the US pharmacy school average is intense 6-8 years, I’ve worked with foreign pharmacists (withholding countries identity) from overseas who went to “pharmacy school” in which the profession of pharmacy does NOT EXIST nor regulated, it’s more like 2-3 easy years of “industrial pharmacy” studie, comparable to what a US pharmacy tech knows, , take equivalently test and nabplex (both are facilitated by easy study guides) and become equivalent to a US educated pharmacist, folks it’s a JOKE, ITS ABSURD !
Lol, I remember writing this last year! I got a really good job now. If you have a great and fun personality they’ll hire you over experienced pharmacist and ones that have residency! 👨⚕️
Currently I am reading PharmD from a state university where the annual fee is only about 100 US dollars(Not in America, I've just converted from our currency), Also I am earning enough from my part time online lectures to cover all the expenses.My plan is to start my higher education(PhD/M. Phil) immediately after my degree. I am hoping to become a research scientist, and develop my career in teaching.
In my country it is totally opposite lol. Some students from good universities gets hired even before completing their degree. So keep in mind that the person is talking about America. Do some research on your own about the career you want to pursue and it's value in your country
Everything you said is right leave alone the tedious licensure exams after you are done schooling. I graduated back in 2008 and I am still struggling to pass these exams..lol. I know, I feel stupid already
My parents want me to be a pharmacist but I don't want to rather I want to be something that has to do with art and I am scrolling down in the comments seeing people who are saying I want to help people so bad I have wanted this since I was 6 etc etc and I am here knowing very well that if I don't take control of this situation I am going to become a serial killer and maybe a physco path and get arrested yay
I used to watch Paul’s videos on how to get into pharmacy school when I was in undergrad. Now as a P3 I’m banging my head wondering why did I miss his video about why pharmacy school might be a bad idea lol. I think a lot of other people in pharmacy school or practicing pharmacists would say the same thing now, but a few might say this is a pessimistic view. My suggestion to those thinking about pharmacy school: do your own research too and HONESTLY ask yourself if you’re passionate about pharmacy. But whatever you do, don’t listen to universities when you’re trying to decide if pharmacy is the right profession for you, they will be biased and want you to to go to pharmacy school.🤑
I hear this all too well, i am a pharm tech and majority of my pharmacists now say they wouldnt do it again if given another chance. Some say they wished they wouldve done residency to get into a hospital setting. Retail pharmacy is the worst! I hear and see the stress the pharmacist go through. Corporate always breathing down your necks because your pharmacy “numbers” are not met or whatever. They say patient care is something the care about but its not! Corporate only cares about numbers! The work and life balance at a retail sector is not good either! I personally wanted to become a pharmacist but after working at a retail pharmacy for 3 years, i am now convinced i dont want to anymore. Its not the salary, its the life style and corporate decisions that makes it hard to become a pharmacist (retail).
Yes. They make bank off students; of course they would be inclined to lie. Just take a look at the bureau of labor statistics. The outlook for the job growth for pharmacists is -3%.
i guess it really depends on ur fate, if u r lucky u can make more money if u r pharmacist, also country matters, like in middle east pharmacy got high paid and less job, in some asian country some of their kids took pharmacy just to put up their own pharmacy, by that they earn more money
My sis did pharmacy and she got a part time job after lot of struggle. I took pre-reqs for pharmacy school and my sis told to look for something else as the market is completely saturated.
I wouldn't listen to Wiggywonka. I've met some technicians that are happy with their job and have been doing it for many years. Technicians can work in the hospital and many other fields similar to pharmacists. I'm a pharmacist myself. It seems to me that it's easier to branch into other fields compared to pharmacists. So you do have options.
Which part of pharmacy are you prospective people so passionate about? Getting bitched at by customers, nurses, doctors, front end managers, etc? Picking up the phone? Not have bathroom breaks? Being blamed for everything and anything that goes wrong while the doctor/NP/customer is always right? Owing 200k+ in debt while begging to get hired? Having unrealistic expectations and ridiculous metrics placed upon you from upper management that probably attended 2 years or less of Trump university? Seriously, just do something else.
When i first watch this dude video i didn't believe it. Iam not 1 year as a pharmacist and i will say it is saturated and competitive. 7 months ago i applied over 30 jobs. 5 jobs call me and interview. I onky got 2 jobs offer. I took the role of a hospital infusion pharmacist. The pay is high surely. But tbh there isnt much out there and u never know what will happen.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Wow 🤔.. did she get accepted to specfic school? I suggest she apply to affordable ones! Mine is $75k ... ! Does she have access to the book that lists all pa schools in USA by cost? I believe She can compare and choose affordable programs
On my second year atm in Denmark. Pharma school is no joke. It is tough work, a lot of lab hours and most of all lab reports. I would only recommend this education to people who are ABSOLUTELY sure that it's what they wanna do! If not, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. (talking from personal experience)
Hey I was looking into being a pharmacologist, would this video still apply to my situation and are you speaking about anything in the realm of pharmacy? I know that the two are somewhat similar but have their differences.
There is a difference between pharmacy and pharmacology, he was talking to pharmacy because its a bad choice, pharmacology on the other hand is alot different, and almost a guaranteed job these days.
At retail pharmacy you get no respect from the company you work for, and your customers. Basically no one. So, if you truly are passionate about pharmacy, which I have rarely seen, then retail is not for you. Also, schools now a days are in it to milk you for every penny they can. So your priority is not to go to the best school you can find, but the cheapest school you can find. Good luck.
If you are a slacker I would suggest you become a pharmacist assicant then do a short course to become a pharmacist assicant The easey way to become a pharmacist
If you don't like Arizona, North Dakota, or maybe Alaska and would like to have a job whereby you're not easily replaceable, then don't get into pharmacy. I am lucky to have a job here in TN and I have no Healthcare, no retirement, no 401k, and no benefits to speak of. I have been a pharmacy manager for the past 17 years and a pharmacist for the last 20 years. I believe the pharmacy profession was not protected as too many pharmacy schools were built in order to cause an oversupply of pharmacists, bringing down wages, benefits, and standards.
You guys are lucky to pursue a pharmacy degree, I ended up to study biology degree because of my family household couldn't provide me that, I am still thinking should I take the diploma in pharmacy to strengthen my future work prospect? But I can't risk to study without any income as my family couldn't support me for a longer period of time. Maybe after 30 year old then I may be thinking of doing it to fulfill my little dream as young. 😃😃😃😃
@@lovefunkrockmusic haha thanks for your encouragement. Currently I just completed my degree study in cell & molecular biology. Hopefully I can learn a bit of biochemistry (amateur plus self study) as I am doing sales job to sustain my life now. 😋
Initially I want to pursue medicine but it costs too high and the medical care system in my country is in a deteriorating state, therefore I am choosing a different path. Maybe I will pursue medicine if I was in America to serve the people plus being fancy just like on TV😊😊
Too many law schools= too many lawyers. Too many pharmacy schools= too many pharmacists. Too many NP/PA programs= too many NP/PAs. Demand for PCP’s means Med schools are next.
Filmon Tewolde I agree. Sadly the hospital companies are seeing mid levels as a way to save money. The thing going thru their mind is; Why hire a physician and pay them 150k when they can hire a nurse practitioner or a PA and pay them 50k? They’re not qualified to diagnose without a physician, and their scope of practice prevents them from doing it yet, keyword “yet”. It’s fucjed up.
Sorbazorb 5G what do mean yet it’s already happening. google Chicago hospitals fires primary care physicians and replaces them with nurse practitioners. Let me get your thoughts.
There's a surplus of new graduates for a very finite amount of positions. People generally want to go into the field to help people but in retail, let's be honest, you don't have the time. The corporate takeover of retail is focused on one thing, profit. It's cheaper to understaff, burn pharmacists out, and settle lawsuits from errors vs staff appropriately. The amount of schooling that is required for the job is pretty crazy and you're honestly better off going into medicine if you're not concerned with the hours. I worked for two and a half years in a hospital and decided to go back to school to get my D.O degree. Is it worth it? I'm not sure but at least I'll have more job satisfaction and I won't be treated like a replaceable piece of trash in the workforce.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z I find the human body fascinating, I love pathology, and I never really had a true passion for pharmacy. Both my parents were pharmacists so I just did it because mom and dad said I had to go to college, I didn't know what else to do. I understand that physicians really need to give up their life for their profession but I'm fine with that. I spent two and a half years feeling disrespected by my employer, nurses, and physicians and I rather work with more autonomy and be respected. It's the case of "the grass is always greener", doctors that become doctors solely for money are destined to be miserable.
@@kaz128 you might want to drop out of medical school. Physicians today have become commodities where they are being replaced with mid-level providers and machines.
Pharmacy is such a joke nowadays. Easiest doctorate degree to obtain out of all the healthcare profession. Soon pharmacist salaries will lower to $30-40/hr and students will still be in $200k++ debt.
General rule for student loans. If your job doesn't pay a gross salary greater than your student loan it is not worth it. Most pharmacy students end with student loans of 80-120K, and starting salary was 120-130K. Now with starting salaries in the 80K region it is not worth it.
I had a 42 year career in Pharmacy and discovered that the last thing that I wanted to do was be a retail pharmacist. I found that you can use a Pharmacy degree to go in a lot of different directions. I ended up in Hospital Pharmacy management and enjoyed it most of the time. Other options are Compounding Pharmacy, Nursing Home Pharmacy, Research, FDA, DEA, Military. I even know a Pharmacist who went into criminal justice and became a Forensic Pharmacist. Also, another Pharmacist became a legal researcher and work for a law firm.
So, look around, get varied rotations and try different aspects of Pharmacy and you will find your niche.
It is a good profession but retail is tough. Good Luck
Varied rotations is not possible unless pharmacy centralizes their curriculum like medicine.
Times have changed and the positions you have listed have also been affected, its not just retail. Its the entire pharmacy job market in general
Open your own firm. Pharmacy#
@@aljaklapsicmonroe This isn't a lemonade stand
Didn't you used to be the chief of the VAMC pharmacy
in a West Virginia city in the 1970's-80's?
I am 16 right now, what should I do, I was looking into pharmacy, but everyone is like "its shit now".
Apply to computer science
Just pick something else. Do medicine? Nursing?
Respiratory therapy or Nurse anesthetist.
You are 16 man. You got plenty of time to figure it out. Medicine, or engineering would be the best. Law is saturated but if you get into the best schools still beats pharmacy
same:")
I was a pharmacist for 30 years, I enjoyed it, and it was rewarding. Most of the time, jobs were plentiful. Towards the end, jobs started to dry up. I read an article by a pharmacist my age in which he stated the number of pharmacy schools in the USA has doubled in the last 40 years. I believe there are too many pharmacy schools in the USA now.
Does that mean, demand for pharmacist is low. Meaning getting the job is hard?
@@dogeata6692 I wouldn't want to gamble on the student debt versus the return on investment and time spent. It's too risky.
@@samuelm7782 This is a disappointing thing to keep hearing. :( I love working at the pharmacy, (I am a tech) it is my favorite job yet. I am 25 and at a cross roads.
this plaque is with dentist, podiatry, chiro and optom as well. Medicine does it right and restricts new schools from sprouting. Keeps pay high.
@@coffeepandacat Eventually they'll automate the field heavily. My aunt does that specifically after 20 years of being pharmacy technician now traveling the entire country. Worst place she went was a prison facility Alaska during a snow storm. Her favorite place is Hawaii nursing home.
Guys this video is from Oct 2019. This is PRE-COVID. Pharmacists make way more than $35-$40/hr for new grads. Even back then it was never that low. Right now it’s more like between $50-$70 an hr
Halfway through school, pray for me
Coswagrigus
Don’t sunken cost fallacy it. Gtfo and pivot into something else. When you see a career choice that is on the decline and at risk of being automated, you turn the other way
Same I will be praying for us
Drop out now. You only went half-way. Choose another field NOW.
same
Switch to med school ASAP
This is basically an american problem i think its worth you mentioning this so not to discourage future pharmacist who are young and impressionable from countries like Canada, the Uk, south America and the carribean where there are hardly any pharmacist and the demand is high I use to listen to videos like these and think it was for every country cause this is a universal platform but when i began asking people i realized that there are hundred of jobs available stores and communities begging for pharmacies walgreens and cvs and walmart has only infiltrated America the rest of the world is leaps and bounds behind America in terms of automation accreditation isnt even required in most carribean and latin american pharmacies all kind of improvement and work is needed if any of you qualified pharmacist need a job reforming the carribbeans pharmacy system you are needed and will be appreciated people are literally dying cause of how backwards our system is its crazy
Ranika a good bit of other medical career fields are being saturated...
@@beaubeauknows3620 where though
Ranika where? Do you mean what jobs? Any medical job other than dentists and physicians basically (NPs, PAs, nurses, PT etc) are all dealing w/ saturation.
@@beaubeauknows3620 never mind hun
Canada is even more saturated than the USA for pharmacy its way worse here. But we have a high demand for nurses.
As a recently graduated pharmacist (this year), I can confirm this is a very American problem. Pharmacy is brilliant in Ireland right now, very high demand. Added to the fact that student debt is practically non existent for school leavers, pharmacy is a great option imo. Praying it stays that way.
How much does a fresh pharmacy grad make on an average in Ireland ?
Yeah I’m Irish and I’m confused watching this
@@kosiqueensly4506 I think that these 10 pharmacists that are currently taking off from the airport and going to Ireland will completly colapse job market. :)
That's interesting! I've spoken with quite a few Irish community pharmacists in the last three years that have sentiments that oppose this view - especially with regards to community pharmacy in Ireland (dealing with the government schemes in community pharmacy is a nightmare in comparison to other countries like the UK). I've heard that the salary in hospital pharmacy in Ireland is not too great and that in general, the pharmacy profession in Ireland is just not as valued.
@@sheabutterandroses I was fresh out of college walking into a high paying job when I first wrote that post, but a year post grad now I can understand why the pharmacists you spoke to felt that way, particularly in community pharmacy. While the salary is still excellent in comparison to other career paths with the a similar time investment imo (particularly if you're a locum pharmacist), the stress levels can be through the roof and the scheme system in this country is years behind the UK and other countries. Regarding hospital pharmacy, I have heard that talks between hospital pharmacists and the HSE are ongoing re salary increases but I do agree that hospital pharmacists are drastically undervalued, especially in comparison to community pharmacists.
Man I used to watch your videos when I was applying to pharm school about 4 years ago. I’m now in my fourth year on rotations and its kinda crazy how things have changed. I think its important for people to do their research before going into any profession. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Lmfao... Same situation
In my final year now
@@ThebigGLRams then why did u go if you knew?
Make your own pathway
@@ThebigGLRams why did you go in Pharmacy school when he warned you ?
I understand what you are saying. I graduated in 1997 before the 6th year was required (a mistake in making mandatory if you ask me) and before all.the new pharmacy schools came online. I had minimal loans because I only paid for my 5th year. I went into pharmacy school knowing I didn't want to be a retail pharmacist. I discovered nuclear pharmacy and have been extremely happy with my career at one of the best hospitals in the country. If you're passionate about chemistry and medications look into nuclear, industry, and plenty of other options for pharmacists outside of retail. Also, I'm a strong believer in public colleges. There's no need to go into debt for a pharmacy degree.
ur salary please????
What is it like being a nuclear pharmacist? I heard its way different from retail?
Switching from pharmacy school was one of the most difficult things for me to do. I had wanted to do pharmacy since junior year of highschool and had bought all the study material for the pcat and told family members I wanted to be pharmacist for a long time. And switching and preparing for a whole new career path was daunting. But I made the switch and I'm glad I did before enrolling in pharmacy school. For those who are having a difficult time making the decision, just know it will be hard especially if ur still in college to make a switch but its not impossible. It sucks at first but it gets easier
im in your position right now, im in highschool and I wanted to do pharmacy for a long time, but now it doesn't seem like a good choice? What did u decide to become instead?
OLADAPO BRO You are still in high school. I suggest to Major in computer engineering and take some pre med classes to decide medicine or engineering. Nursing is not a bad field either- less loans and finish school faster to purse CRNA or NP
Im in my first year 6 yr pharmD program. I think I might switch because of the saturation but at the same time im super scared, because I don't know what else to do.
@3D Vibes nope, Im out. Its definitely hard because you question everything, but just stay focused and things will get better.
@3D Vibes what did you decide to do now?
As a recent pharmacy graduate, I have no plans to practice because I completely agree with you. I am not passionate about the field and I strive for a better income and pharmacy doesn't provide that. Honestly wish I knew 4 years ago but I was lucky enough to get into pharmacy school at a young age
Should've become a dentist lmao
Lol I was just thinking the same, should have gone for dentistry
Dentists will be replaced with automation 2.
Hope you have no loans. If you do not have loans, pursue dentistry, but specialize in dentistry.
Yeah and ur basically a drug dealer
You won't feel passionate after any four year degree. Passion comes with more autonomy. Work in your field, rack up some cash, then switch if you want to
Pharmacy is such a great career! You get paid more than most professions and you get to have a positive impact on the people of your community.
Really :0?
Who gets more paid nurse or pharmacist
@@nouserfound1928 yea, who?
@@dshesrda I am a nurse and I make as much as a pharmacist, my base wage.
@@nouserfound1928 it depends on your years of experience and which field you work in
I was at the point of applying to my pharmacy schools and after working my butt off the past four years in and out of the classroom to get to myself to pharmacy school I decided It wasn’t for me anymore and I’ve been on the fence because I’ve put so much time and hard work till now.. I realized my passion was blind sided and it wasn’t for me. This video helped me a lot, given that I needed some reassurance about my decision and still was a little bit on the fence. Thank you for this!!
Jaw Dan I’m getting my bachelors in communications actually, I wanted to do my major in something I enjoyed, I just did my pre-reqs ontop of my major coursework. I got lucky since my major is so open ended.
Maybe you could do a masters in public health and work in health care still? Or do research?
Filmon Tewolde good thing I don’t care about your opinion and have my own life figured out!
Good for u
Going through the same struggle right now . I'm thinking about pursuing dentistry
Opened my own pharmacy. Three months in, I make almost enough to cover the cost. 🔥 🔥 🔥
What were your steps to getting there?
where are you located?
How did you find your location to open up a pharmacy?
Making $3/script margin isn't worth it.
Hi Guys if you need help finding a Job or do a non-traditional Pharmacist Job message Joshua Rusinak on Linkedin. He is helping everyone who is unemployed or needs advice for transitioning to non-traditional pharmacist roles.
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I believe that before even enrolling in undergrad, students need to work in customer service and find out how well they can handle complaints and irate customers. If students dislike this part of customer service, they will not enjoy dealing with the complaints that many healthcare providers, such as retail and hospital pharmacists, receive. This would be a case when students should not dream of those careers.
I say this because I hope this can save students time and money in their schooling.
When I went to pharmacy school, everyone , family and friends , just kept calling me a future druggie.....honestly people are so ignorant when it comes to having a true passion in the field
i worked as a retail pharmacy tech and the pharmacist gets disrespected all the time they are verbally attacked a lot it is a depressing environment to work in.
As a pharmacist for almost 8 years now. it's the worst in the healthcare sector. if you're not a pharmacist or at least worked in a pharmacy, you will not understand what we're talking about.
Did you work in a pharmacy?
Long time pharmacist and multiple pharmacy owner, I can now hire a pharmacist for half of what I did just 5 years ago. The ever declining insurance reimbursements are taking their toll. This is no longer a profession, you will just be a pimp for the insurance companies.
Pharmacists hourly rate dropped to $30/hr?
Are there much better majors to go for than becoming a pharmacist if your just looking for money?
Maybe computer science. I got a bachelor of CS and work in tech company as developer now I got paid $160k a year remote job. No debt
@@joshuaallen9501 computer science, accounting, finance, any engineering major, certain science majors, nursing are all solid picks. Basically anything in business/tech is safe.
@@joshuaallen9501 Just about any kind of engineering or computer networking degree.
Pharmacy is the only thing I can think of currently. Ik its difficult but at the same time anything is possible if you really put time and effort into it. Good luck to everyone!
You gonna be in debt buddy at graduation but have no job
Bachelor of CS and now I made 160k a year. Remote job too
@@RexTube1991 CS is computer science?
@@MrInzombiahave no job?
I finally decided to get out of pharmacy. It’s not what it used to be. 1) There are too many schools of pharmacy that have opened up. 2) Some schools have lowered their qualifications since I was in school. 3) Corporations like Walgreens and CVS are more focused on metrics that have no impact on patient care such as signing people up for reward programs and getting a prescription filled in 15 minutes or less. 4) Staff has been cut down to the bone. It has become more like working in a fast food setting than a professional environment. 5) The respect we get as medical professionals has declined.
HI PAUL U R RIGHT. THIS PROFESSION IS DELIBERATELY BEING OVER SATURATED. ITS UNDERPAID FOR THE WORK U DO. AND THE PRESSURES THEY PUT ON U.
I used to watch this channel 6 years ago when I was applying to pharmacy schools. As a retail pharmacist I agree 100% with everything said in the video. :(
Then why did you go into Pharmacy school if you knew what was happening.
The video talks about the inability to find a job. This commenter says she is already a retail pharmacist and so this video doesn't apply to her but she just agrees with the video @@user-lu6yg3vk9z
Lmao im so into pharmacy and this is what i see after getting accepted to the college
Do your residency, dont settle for retail! Unless u want to hear from your district leader that your pharmacy store “numbers” are not looking good and you can possibly get moved to a different store or even become a floater!
Go into a hospital setting!
@@peter828 well
I changed my mind in the last second
I went to dental college and thank God it was a perfect choice
This video was very helpful and thank you for the advice sir anyway
@@kyyahabdul...can you give me idea about making a career in pharmacy....um reading BPharma.
@@kyyahabdul..yes...l read all these comments and..um now in confusion...how l will pursue my career on that..is it demanding?..if it is..then in which country...l can make a good career..
Hi Paul. I am also a pharmacist. Actually choosing pharmacy, I don't mean a bad choice but it's not wise too. It has been really tough to get a good start. Even in pharmaceutical industries there is a lot of pressure. Everything is time bound. Thanks for the video.
What do you do now?
What do u do nw
I so wish I knew this 2yrs ago before started school.
Typhon
It’s not too late. Leave. Sunken cost fallacy will clap you
Cut your loses and move on to something else
Kung Lao Outlook is 0% now. It used to be 4% while I was in school
It isnt too late. Run !!
It is not too late, i just realised it know I just graduated a month ago after 6years of working my ass off.
I would say that in Sweden you get pretty much the job before you even graduate! They are need of pharmacist here and u can choose between 3 years or 5 years :)
Yeah this happening right now, but it will branch out to other countries.
They are bringing people all over the world to Sweden. Becouse no one with a right mind goes now to pharmacy school. But nowhere in Europe including Sweden you get decent pay as a pharmacist.
@@aleksander4711 wdym, so every pharmacist wasn't in their right mind?. Do u know how important it is to have a pharmacist. We are called drug experts. And u do get paid enough to make a living. Also payment is different If u work at pharmacy or somewhere else
@@M0N4.9 In Poland where im from and I guess in Sweden too as retail pharmacist you are Just mediator between shelf and clients bag giving Little to no value. Professionally time spent in pharmacy is wasted in terms of increasing your value as a worker becouse it is in reality very easy job that someone after 6 months is able to perform. Market in Sweden is on the raise now but soon it Will get saturated. In Poland it happend in 10 years.
Edit: I called retail pharmacist mediator but it is more like an obstacle with his wages for anybody in the system, for patient to get his medicine fast and cheap , for pharmacy owner to get his profit. Almost nobody in Poland wants to end in pharmacy selling drugs but almost everybody does
. Chances of job in industry are very low.
@@aleksander4711 Yes, there may be different systems for each country. But for your information, a pharmacist is not just a mediator between a client and the drugs. As I said before, we are called "drug expert" which means drug expert. Doctors are not the best when it comes to drugs and they can make many mistakes that lead to serious side effects or deaths for the customer. There are many times a pharmacist saved lives. so you say it's a waste of time I do not really agree. In every job there is something bad and something good about the job. And here there are several specializations with pharmacies. it's not just sitting behind the counter.
This is so unfair and fucked up that you guys up there in the US have to reconsider your dreams just because you don't have rich parents while here in Germany you don't need to pay anything to reach your goals...
Lol, socialism is the key right? Because it has worked all through time right? Get outta here youngster, money does not grow in trees. Somebody has to pay. You don’t walk up and order a Big Mac and say let me pay for it later, NO. You either pay or don’t eat son!
@@Toyotaguru i think he is just trying to say that school expenses make students reconsider their dreams. despite of their dream making them happy, it will just drown them in debts
@SirGrowsAlot said an American? Sounds so funny to me after all that has been happening in your country ;) but I guess I dont need to remind you of the history of your country, do I? :)
@s v My comment was a reaction to the racist statement of Sirgrowsalot... Comparing evil to evil doesn't make any sense. However, once someone from the USA calls a random German a Nazi while American history is based on slavery during which over 20 Million African people had been murderend, massive on the genocide of indigenous peoples, provocation of wars in the middle east, still a large racism towards people of color, etc., then I of course have to react! I am not saying, every American is a racist and an evil person with an evil past. But if an American wants to call me a Nazi for no reason, just because I feel sorry for you to pay so much for your education while here it is for free, which was my wish for all of you (what a Nazi-thing to do!), then I want to remind such people of the fact, their past had not been any better... Peace to you, my friend
:)
@@samb8519 Beautifully said
thinking about going into pharmacy school, so thanks for the video, even though its from 4 years ago. If pharmacy does not work out for me Ill just have to suck it up and get a job with my engineering degree. But really want to do pharmacist thing instead.
yep. i was a hospital pharmacist in the US. Left the US and am teaching elsewhere now at a pharmacy school.
In Bangladesh, it was great in the 2010s but the market is heavily oversaturated nowadays due to a sheer amount of colleges and universities offering the degree. I assume the same for the rest of South Asia.
Hey, im from Bangladesh too. My cousin wants to study pharmacy, is it still a good choice?
@@t.a6159 hi bhai, to the best of my knowledge, BD pharmaceutical industries like Square, Beximco, etc. are a little oversaturated rn, although I'm not sure how it is rn. In 2018, Pharmacy was trending but it kinda fell off post-covid. If you can get into DU, you should be fine.
Pharmacy goes beyond money. So as you said, if you're going for the money, don't try. If you're passionate, definitely go for it. However, I think doing pharmacy gives you a lot of job opportunities.... The commonest yet choking part is the hospital and retail. However, with the skills you'll develop and knowledge you'll get in pharmacy, you just have to think outside the box to make decent money. Also, with the way things are going, no matter which field you find yourself in, to get lots of money, you'd have to set up your own business..... Applies to doctors, nurses, graphic designers, whatever course..... To make wealth, you MUST set up YOUR own business.
Karmen have your heard of loans and credit scores?
Let me stop you right there. Independent pharmacies are dying because of poor insurance reimbursements. The Supreme Court recently ruled that PBM's now have to pay at least the cost of the med. Independent pharmacies are STILL getting negative reimbursement rates from PBM'S. I worked at 4 different independently owned pharmacies and they ALL closed for the same reason: poor insurance reimbursement.
@@jjr04001 By setting up your own business, I didn't mean privately owned pharmacies only. You can be a pharmacist with something like your own coffee shop or car dealership etc.
I wanna be a pharmacologist, not a pharmacist, theres a huge difference.
No you don’t pharmacologists job market is bad too.
Interesting video... I agree to an extent.. I still am optimistic about pharmacy.. There is a lot of different roles in pharmacy rising, concierge specialty etc people making their own pharmacy consulting buisness... It depends on where you go, you can still get good pay in some aspects of pharmacy.. When i first graduated i got into specialty and it was good pay, And there are some growth in different areas of pharmacy. In the bls report it also stated that hospital sector will be increasing job impact as well. But i agree that if you have passion you should get in.. If you absolutely don't and just want to for the money you shouldn't get into it, pharmacy is about patient care not just money.
Ghanaboy. PharmD thank you for being positive. Whew
What's pharmacy school like?
Dav S hard. 😂
@@beaubeauknows3620 lol why's that funny you
Dav S the question is so broad for something that is so complex...
i got job.... works for me....
you didn't tell me to eat my veggies😢
Nothing he said was incorrect or disputable. Currently a pharmacist. Watched the video back in 2012 but ignored the writing on walls. If you are using loans, it is def not worth it.
Me too. Screwed. The god damn schools lied to me.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Yes. I owed $220,000 back in loans. There are no jobs and students are going back to the old jobs to pay the loan interest.
@@sharkparty1027 that sucks. what exactly did the school say? i was pre-pharma, but I research into the field and released it was a scam.
@@sharkparty1027 Old jobs they were doing before going to pharmacy school?
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Yes, jobs that are not even in the pharmacy world. I can't say the exact jobs, out of respect that they might see this post.
ITS WORTH IT!my grandmother's pharmacy assistance got a promotion from my grandmother to be a pharmacy,and now there pharmacist,they got wealthy bc of pharmacy as well as my grandma,the salary is worth it if you know how to save money (or if your lazy,and waste money,it ain't gonna work for you)I hated this video so much!
You are stupid. He is speaking the truth.
The market has been monopolized. Things are not like that now. Good luck competing against poor insurance reimbursements, cvs, walgreens and amazon.
@@jjr04001what solution do u see
Schools getting rid of the PCAT? What a shame. I was proud to get my degree but pretty soon everyone will be a pharmacist lol. I can't imagine taking $30/hr after all that schooling. Feel fortunate with my current salary.
cicirunner don’t get comfortable. companies will get rid of the expensive pharmacists and replace them with cheaper labor. google walmart fire 40% of its pharmacists staff.
Hospitals are furloughing hospital pharmacists too.
12 years as a pharmacist and looking at vids like this and I wholeheartedly agree... RuN!
It's my highly responsible profession try to calm and care while dispense the medication for past 22 years as community pharmacist ..
What if school is free, is still pharmacy a good career?
You should never do a career mainly for the money, do a job you will enjoy. If u do it for the money u might not enjoy the job n be miserable everyday at work. The main reason to choose a specific career is bc u enjoy it.
I got accepted to pharmacy school and decided against it. Now I'm doing a masters. Thank God.
Yasir Zafar smart. masters in what?
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z engineering
Yasir Zafar ok
Yasir Zafar did u do research on pharmacy profession is that the reason you opted out?
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Yes, I actually was so paranoid about it after doing research I reached out to the Dean of VCU's Pharmacy school (my number 1 choice) to have a meeting and discuss whether pharmacy was saturated or not. After I had that meeting with him I still wasn't convinced. I still applied and got accepted but decided that I need to take my life in another direction. So I started preparing for the MCAT and become a doctor like my sister. I was getting the scores I needed to get accepted but I decided that I wouldn't be happy as a physician even if I made a lot of money. Seeing as my sister is overworked and miserable. So now I'm doing what I lowkey wanted to do from the beginning. Which is going into tech and engineering.
thanks, I wish I would have known this 4 years ago. What do I do now??
Hi!
I know this comment is late, but I was wondering if the same counts for pharmacology. I’m really interested in it and it perfectly combines my interest in biology, chemistry and other life sciences. However, I’m in 10th grade and still have time to consider other courses. Therefore I wanted to know whether pharmacology has higher demand in jobs, because it’s more research related and not working in an actual pharmacy, but rather in a lab.
Hello I am from India I am computer science engineer you can do it it have lot of scope
@@sanjeetsingh1365 Hello, I will study pharmaceutical science this year, what do you think about it and the career paths (jobs)
What are your thoughts with Covid happening
This is the best pharmacy advice on the internet . Being a pharmacist over 30 years the profession. Has really declined to the abyss. There is no future for pharmacist. I have seen young people make the worst decision of their life choosing this profession. I have hired many depressed and broke pharmacist crying over their debt which may become impossible to pay this will run you down and ruin your physical and mental health. There is no need for pharmacists there are no jobs and automation will probably destroy the profession within a decade. Pharmacy school has been the biggest scam colleges have pulled pumping job market demand fake numbers. This is a declining profession and you are doing a great service spreading the message to stop people from making a decision that will ruin their life.
Medicare part D and Obamacare, which dramatically increased the government's rule over medication coverage, has destroyed pharmacy. After paying for rent/lease, utilities, staffing, maintenance, etc. making $3 per prescription makes filling drugs a breakeven business. Because of this, pharmacies had to cut staffing and had to take on other, better margin paying parts of healthcare, such as vaccinations, testing, etc. For example, we had a patient that had a $22,000 special order, drop-shipped from the manufacturer drug. After spending 15 minutes on the phone getting this thing covered by the insurance, ordering it with the risk of the patient not picking it up and demanding his script back to go somewhere else, our after drug costs profit was $5.28 on this script. It's not worth dispensing drugs.
Absolutely NO NO NO job 😢😢😢😢😢😢
These fools get $140k per job to stand behind a counter and seal pill bags. They hide and get mad for the most insignificant things.
Pharmacy was the worst choice I ever made and my school was completly free.
Sorry to hear that. It’s not free when you lose 3-4 years of your life too.
I am passionate about pharmacy and helping people, so I guess this video doesn't apply to me. This is still sad to hear. Here in Estonia it's free to study it, so no student loan. No healthy family though.
omg it's free? what university is that? does it accept overseas student? how cool!!
@@auberginity9188 probably only for EU/CH citizens
Ty about the positive comment. I am thinking about to study pharmacy and even videos like that can have impact on you.
What's the requirements to get enroll in Estonia from foreign country?
Laura Valdson becoming a pharmacist is not only about helping people ; there are other ways to help people as well
In my country you don't go in debt for college, thankfully
If you're in pharmacy school, I would suggest finishing and then getting into PA school. I just about did that when I complete in 2014. I work in a rural hospital and feel slightly protected.
Lol, there is no job security. That’s all B.S.
That would be the best approach if one wants to be a clinician with less debt. Plus, one gets to Bill for their services as a PA.
Wait so you mean to go into debt and pay the school for a useless degree. Then sign up for another one? Youre insane. Theyll be 400k in debt with interest by the time theyre a physicians assistant and be paying loans till theyre 60
Wonderful idea! I know another pharmacist who went back and added a PA and now works for a surgical group. Surgeons hate everything other than surgery so they love the PA who takes care of all the non-surgical issues (meds).
Please come and practice Pharmacy here in South Africa. High wages and excellent working conditions. Our state hospitals are spotless with a very high degree of professionalism. Retail pharmacy here in south africa is just absolutely fantastic and private hospital groups are so happy where they are, they just dont want to leave. Lots and lots of jobs available here for pharmacists. Trust me you wont be sorry. Why do you see no south african pharmacists immigrating to the US. Its because they are so happy here.
Would you still say the same today Carelse?
@@lehlabilemanamela9871 Well i am positive about Pharmacy here in good old SA. I think its a great profession. Lots of opportunities available. I think our ANC govt is doing an absolutely outstanding job. Viva ANC viva.
@@mehlcarelse4319 I don't know if I should take you seriously with your last statement. 😂
Anyway I'm asking because I am about to finish my Commserve and I am anxious about job prospects. The job market is very constricted. Gov doesn't absorb anymore pharmacists unless you are a bursar.
@@lehlabilemanamela9871what do you do?
Pharmacy... You has to brilliant Brain. Smart person when you were at high school.. If not don't get into cause you may stuck at the middle
get out NOWWWW. You have no idea whats coming. Once my loans are done, IM OUT
In the US pharmacy school average is intense 6-8 years, I’ve worked with foreign pharmacists (withholding countries identity) from overseas who went to “pharmacy school” in which the profession of pharmacy does NOT EXIST nor regulated, it’s more like 2-3 easy years of “industrial pharmacy” studie, comparable to what a US pharmacy tech knows, , take equivalently test and nabplex (both are facilitated by easy study guides) and become equivalent to a US educated pharmacist, folks it’s a JOKE, ITS ABSURD !
Bingo! I left in 2012.. his is old story.. there is life outside of pharmacy.
I graduate in 2021, looks like you’ll see me on the streets begging for spare change.
yeah pretty much
Harun Lari I think these changes eventually happen world wide
Filmon Tewolde what do u do ? Joblessness can happen to anyone
Lol, I remember writing this last year! I got a really good job now. If you have a great and fun personality they’ll hire you over experienced pharmacist and ones that have residency! 👨⚕️
@@Advocate77777 how much do you get paid an hour?
Welp... I'm doing my final year....
What did u do please
Currently I am reading PharmD from a state university where the annual fee is only about 100 US dollars(Not in America, I've just converted from our currency), Also I am earning enough from my part time online lectures to cover all the expenses.My plan is to start my higher education(PhD/M. Phil) immediately after my degree. I am hoping to become a research scientist, and develop my career in teaching.
100US dollars only?
In my country it is totally opposite lol. Some students from good universities gets hired even before completing their degree. So keep in mind that the person is talking about America. Do some research on your own about the career you want to pursue and it's value in your country
What’s your country if I may ask?
Everything you said is right leave alone the tedious licensure exams after you are done schooling. I graduated back in 2008 and I am still struggling to pass these exams..lol. I know, I feel stupid already
???? You have to re-license?
If u finish college is it hard to get the job??:/ I'm just thinking abt my future at this rlly young age so I'm prepared:))
My parents want me to be a pharmacist but I don't want to rather I want to be something that has to do with art and I am scrolling down in the comments seeing people who are saying I want to help people so bad I have wanted this since I was 6 etc etc and I am here knowing very well that if I don't take control of this situation I am going to become a serial killer and maybe a physco path and get arrested yay
DON'T DO IT!!! PHARMACISTS BECOME ALCOHOLICS AND DRUG ADDICTS!!! DO SOMETHING ELSE!!! IT'S A HORRIBLE JOB!!
@@jjr04001 wow really??? How do they become drug addicts??
I used to watch Paul’s videos on how to get into pharmacy school when I was in undergrad. Now as a P3 I’m banging my head wondering why did I miss his video about why pharmacy school might be a bad idea lol.
I think a lot of other people in pharmacy school or practicing pharmacists would say the same thing now, but a few might say this is a pessimistic view.
My suggestion to those thinking about pharmacy school: do your own research too and HONESTLY ask yourself if you’re passionate about pharmacy. But whatever you do, don’t listen to universities when you’re trying to decide if pharmacy is the right profession for you, they will be biased and want you to to go to pharmacy school.🤑
They only want your tuition money
I hear this all too well, i am a pharm tech and majority of my pharmacists now say they wouldnt do it again if given another chance. Some say they wished they wouldve done residency to get into a hospital setting. Retail pharmacy is the worst! I hear and see the stress the pharmacist go through. Corporate always breathing down your necks because your pharmacy “numbers” are not met or whatever. They say patient care is something the care about but its not! Corporate only cares about numbers! The work and life balance at a retail sector is not good either! I personally wanted to become a pharmacist but after working at a retail pharmacy for 3 years, i am now convinced i dont want to anymore. Its not the salary, its the life style and corporate decisions that makes it hard to become a pharmacist (retail).
The job market is getting worst?? Pharmacy schools keep saying there is a huge huge demand for a lack of pharmacist? Are pharmacy universities lying?
Yes. They make bank off students; of course they would be inclined to lie. Just take a look at the bureau of labor statistics. The outlook for the job growth for pharmacists is -3%.
Yes they are ,here in Poland wages are basically determined by minimal wage plus but they still fuck about lack of pharmacist.
i guess it really depends on ur fate, if u r lucky u can make more money if u r pharmacist, also country matters, like in middle east pharmacy got high paid and less job, in some asian country some of their kids took pharmacy just to put up their own pharmacy, by that they earn more money
You're right
especially my country
0:52 you only live once, so why aren’t you doing what you’re really passionate about?
Hell no it's an awful job right now.
My sis did pharmacy and she got a part time job after lot of struggle. I took pre-reqs for pharmacy school and my sis told to look for something else as the market is completely saturated.
Is there a future for being a Pharmacy Technician?
I wouldn't listen to Wiggywonka. I've met some technicians that are happy with their job and have been doing it for many years. Technicians can work in the hospital and many other fields similar to pharmacists. I'm a pharmacist myself. It seems to me that it's easier to branch into other fields compared to pharmacists. So you do have options.
Don't be fooled, every profession has its ups and downs...u get fulfilment when you are passionate about the profession.
I remember watching your no jobs for pharmacists video and it helped me not go into it. Now I’m in dental school haha
Dental school debt = $400k
They are also will be replaced with robots.
Which dentist school are you attending right now
How much debt?
@@rangpo8935 none because of military
Which part of pharmacy are you prospective people so passionate about? Getting bitched at by customers, nurses, doctors, front end managers, etc? Picking up the phone? Not have bathroom breaks? Being blamed for everything and anything that goes wrong while the doctor/NP/customer is always right? Owing 200k+ in debt while begging to get hired? Having unrealistic expectations and ridiculous metrics placed upon you from upper management that probably attended 2 years or less of Trump university? Seriously, just do something else.
Do not judge like that.
Just look at the title, I immediately don’t wanna watch this video !
Are you talking about US only?
Yes, but the trend will stretch out to other countries.
When i first watch this dude video i didn't believe it. Iam not 1 year as a pharmacist and i will say it is saturated and competitive. 7 months ago i applied over 30 jobs. 5 jobs call me and interview. I onky got 2 jobs offer. I took the role of a hospital infusion pharmacist. The pay is high surely. But tbh there isnt much out there and u never know what will happen.
I declined pharmacy for physician assistant program! I did that based on a pharmacist telling me stop!
PAdude 2021 smart move job growth for P.As is increasing. Jut watch out how much debt you will put yourself in.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z thanks brother! Right, my debt is high already! Its expensive 💦!
@@teddyab9235 Yeah. My sister is about to go to P.A. school. She said it will cost her 200k.
You should be good. Job growth for P.A.s is 30% higher then the national average according Bureau of Labor Statistics.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Wow 🤔.. did she get accepted to specfic school? I suggest she apply to affordable ones! Mine is $75k ... ! Does she have access to the book that lists all pa schools in USA by cost? I believe She can compare and choose affordable programs
On my second year atm in Denmark. Pharma school is no joke. It is tough work, a lot of lab hours and most of all lab reports. I would only recommend this education to people who are ABSOLUTELY sure that it's what they wanna do! If not, it's gonna be a bumpy ride. (talking from personal experience)
Do you need Danish to study pharmacy in Denmark,? Or English is enough?
@@lemaxx2638 you're going to need to know Danish.
Hey I was looking into being a pharmacologist, would this video still apply to my situation and are you speaking about anything in the realm of pharmacy? I know that the two are somewhat similar but have their differences.
There is a difference between pharmacy and pharmacology, he was talking to pharmacy because its a bad choice, pharmacology on the other hand is alot different, and almost a guaranteed job these days.
@@xopelex6719 but Pharmacology goes into pharmacy just a different field
@@fatimaqadi7907 a pharmacologist works at laboratories, does research, and mix chemicals im order yo create medicines and vaccines, just like faisar
@@xopelex6719 yes Pfizer is also a pharmaceutical company
@@fatimaqadi7907 mahowe yes but the owner of Pfizer studied pharmacology
At retail pharmacy you get no respect from the company you work for, and your customers. Basically no one. So, if you truly are passionate about pharmacy, which I have rarely seen, then retail is not for you. Also, schools now a days are in it to milk you for every penny they can. So your priority is not to go to the best school you can find, but the cheapest school you can find. Good luck.
If you are a slacker I would suggest you become a pharmacist assicant then do a short course to become a pharmacist assicant The easey way to become a pharmacist
Im a pharmacist in the UK and it's terrible!! Anyone from the UK looking to study pharmacy I would strongly advise against it.
I graduated pharmacy school in 2010. I've been a pharmacist for 11 sad years. My advice is this: DON'T DO PHARMACY.
Exactly. My buddy still paying on $100K student loans. He hates the job. Jerk public and jerk doctors to deal with day in and out.
What job did you do ? Pharmacy ret?
So Pharmacy schools are like McDonald's on every corner now in every college!
If you don't like Arizona, North Dakota, or maybe Alaska and would like to have a job whereby you're not easily replaceable, then don't get into pharmacy. I am lucky to have a job here in TN and I have no Healthcare, no retirement, no 401k, and no benefits to speak of. I have been a pharmacy manager for the past 17 years and a pharmacist for the last 20 years. I believe the pharmacy profession was not protected as too many pharmacy schools were built in order to cause an oversupply of pharmacists, bringing down wages, benefits, and standards.
You guys are lucky to pursue a pharmacy degree, I ended up to study biology degree because of my family household couldn't provide me that, I am still thinking should I take the diploma in pharmacy to strengthen my future work prospect? But I can't risk to study without any income as my family couldn't support me for a longer period of time. Maybe after 30 year old then I may be thinking of doing it to fulfill my little dream as young. 😃😃😃😃
Ivan Leong you could become a PA. Do not become a pharmacist in America.
@@lovefunkrockmusic haha thanks for your encouragement. Currently I just completed my degree study in cell & molecular biology. Hopefully I can learn a bit of biochemistry (amateur plus self study) as I am doing sales job to sustain my life now. 😋
Initially I want to pursue medicine but it costs too high and the medical care system in my country is in a deteriorating state, therefore I am choosing a different path. Maybe I will pursue medicine if I was in America to serve the people plus being fancy just like on TV😊😊
Too many law schools= too many lawyers. Too many pharmacy schools= too many pharmacists. Too many NP/PA programs= too many NP/PAs. Demand for PCP’s means Med schools are next.
The job growth for physicians is going down. The truth Physicians will be replaced with mid -level providers and machines.
Filmon Tewolde I agree. Sadly the hospital companies are seeing mid levels as a way to save money. The thing going thru their mind is; Why hire a physician and pay them 150k when they can hire a nurse practitioner or a PA and pay them 50k? They’re not qualified to diagnose without a physician, and their scope of practice prevents them from doing it yet, keyword “yet”. It’s fucjed up.
Sorbazorb 5G what do mean yet it’s already happening. google Chicago hospitals fires primary care physicians and replaces them with nurse practitioners. Let me get your thoughts.
@@user-lu6yg3vk9zstop this please. No physician job is going down. Medicine will always be medicine mate, regardless of whatever you’re thinking.
Hi love your content! I’m at the start of my pharmacy UA-cam journey so any advice would be greatly appreciated
What a stupid post. Just read the title of this video... and take that advice...
Can we get an optimistic comment from a working pharmacist please? 😅
Melissa Thomas go back in time 20 years.
My wife and I (both pharmacists) own an independent pharmacy. We just cleared 400K for the past fiscal year (July 19-Jun 20)
There's a surplus of new graduates for a very finite amount of positions. People generally want to go into the field to help people but in retail, let's be honest, you don't have the time. The corporate takeover of retail is focused on one thing, profit. It's cheaper to understaff, burn pharmacists out, and settle lawsuits from errors vs staff appropriately. The amount of schooling that is required for the job is pretty crazy and you're honestly better off going into medicine if you're not concerned with the hours. I worked for two and a half years in a hospital and decided to go back to school to get my D.O degree. Is it worth it? I'm not sure but at least I'll have more job satisfaction and I won't be treated like a replaceable piece of trash in the workforce.
What year in medical are you in? If you are in year one drop out of medical school
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z Year one but I don't plan on dropping out lol.
@@kaz128 why u staying?
@@user-lu6yg3vk9z I find the human body fascinating, I love pathology, and I never really had a true passion for pharmacy. Both my parents were pharmacists so I just did it because mom and dad said I had to go to college, I didn't know what else to do. I understand that physicians really need to give up their life for their profession but I'm fine with that. I spent two and a half years feeling disrespected by my employer, nurses, and physicians and I rather work with more autonomy and be respected. It's the case of "the grass is always greener", doctors that become doctors solely for money are destined to be miserable.
@@kaz128 you might want to drop out of medical school. Physicians today have become commodities where they are being replaced with mid-level providers and machines.
Pharmacy only sucks if you're in retail. But if you work hard enough to get a residency in clinical pharmacy, you're set. That's what I'm going to do.
How much gpa to be accepted in residency?
Pharmacy is such a joke nowadays. Easiest doctorate degree to obtain out of all the healthcare profession. Soon pharmacist salaries will lower to $30-40/hr and students will still be in $200k++ debt.
Already is.
Are you a pharmacist
sandeep singh
Yes...
It is already happening outside of south east
I think pharmacy is good career but you should put your self in good place and you should improve your self more than author.
Graduating this year, send help😭
How’s it going for you? U done with school? U found work?
$30 to $40 an hour for pharmacists? How much was the hourly rate before?
$50-$70/hr
General rule for student loans. If your job doesn't pay a gross salary greater than your student loan it is not worth it. Most pharmacy students end with student loans of 80-120K, and starting salary was 120-130K. Now with starting salaries in the 80K region it is not worth it.
😭😭 I was planning on entering a pharmacy school...
Lucky you