The FIRST Medieval Knights' BREAST PLATES - A Triumph of Design
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- Опубліковано 19 бер 2024
- The breast plate of the middle ages is an iconic and vital part of the knight's armour, but where did they come from and why were they shaped like that? Churburg type breastplate available from Artos Munitorum: www.artosmunitorum.com/
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The coat of plates is probably one of the most underrated historical armors
I love how author Miles Cameron works them into his Traitor Son Cycle novels. Mind you, he is a serious reenactor and HEMAist, so it's not too much of a surprise.
And while I'm not a Fiorist, you have no idea how much I loved seeing various creatures and poor bastards get taken apart using techniques from Fiore de Battaglia!
It just seems like a worse version of brigandine, so that might be why.
@@fredericosanchez9000 the coat of plates predates the brigandine.
@@fredericosanchez9000 as Matt stated, it's the predecessor to brigandine.
@@fredericosanchez9000 i don't think so. afaik, the coat of plates was made in response to lance charges, and generally uses larger lames if plate than what you'd expect from a brigandine. coat of plates by the 14th century tended to be more tailored with a taper to the waist much like a cuirass i think.
You should make shirts that say “mail, commonly known as chain-mail”
I believe the proper spelling is maille.
I'd buy one of those in a heartbeat. And that woudl go double if I could get a zip-up hoodie with that on the back!
Femail pigeons
mail shirts
"Look what I got in the mail! ... it's a dagger!"
Nice to see your mail is proper riveted stuff.
Of course!
This is Matt we’re talking about here.. with all the stiff penetration going on, of course he has got proper mail lol
The sheer amount of rigidity a domed shape provides would massively increase your level of protection. If you think of, say, a 1mm sheet of steel. You can flex it by hand, but if you form it into a dome it’ll be strong enough to bear your whole body weight.
but at 1 mm even though it is domed, will it prevent penetration? I very much doubt it. Sure it will hold your weight but you will likely not be sumo wrestling in it.
@@kaoskronostyche9939🧐 deflection is pretty good at stopping penetration.
@@kaoskronostyche9939 it'd be hard to penetrate something your edge can't find purchase on
Interesting. The medieval armourers knew about "shot gaps" which we know from tank armour design: a shot which is deflected because of angle but then directed to a weak part of the armour doing even more damage.
Moreover, another similarity with tank armour design: they knew about having some space between armour layers helps protection.
I guess they had the benefit that the thing that they were armouring was covered in very accute sensors (skin) and thus could give them instant feedback on what worked and what didn't.
Interesting; modern(ww1+) humans had no clue of these features, and had to reinvent the wheel(or track if you like). a thing people knew 100s of years prior.
@@martinwinther6013 well, i am not so sure that this knowledge was lost. The t34 for example had sloped armour for better deflection. And sloped armour is not always better in tank design. It depends on the design philosophy.
The term is "shot *trap*."
@@juanzulu1318hell the Sherman’s had pretty good sloped armour despite what lots of people say, at least at the front lol
It is cool to see this stuff though like how ww1 helmets like the Brodie and stahlhelm were both based off of medieval helmets
The kettle hat for the brits and the sallet for the Germans
Also the high front part of saddle gave protection to the groin.
Just a small practical point (because that confused me for a moment when I first heard it): when at about 1:53 Matt speaks of going back [from the 13th century] to an earlier period, he says Richard III (which would of course be a much later period, 1483 to 1485) but clearly means Richard I, or the Lionheart (1189 to 1199), which fits his mention of "the late 1100s".
Would've.
@@hulking_presence Nope!
@@hulking_presenceNo, I wrote "would" + "of course".
It’s been mentioned already but the globular shape allows the rise and fall of the chest, especially when breathing heavily. It’s all about fighting and that includes wrestling. Having done a lot of that as a copper it’s really important. I tested some lamellar type armour in 1993 made by (I think) Viper UK. It was too stiff longitudinally, with not enough chest space. Similarly any tight armour is tough if you are at all ‘well nourished.’
The globular shapes also allow for a "crumple zone"
I actually wondered why the simple basically formless breast plates you see on some early Hastatii aren't really seen in other periods/areas.
they are kind of simpler versions of the muscl cuirass
i think in earlier periods guys were much more worried about descending blows coming down on them over their shields than straight-on lance thrusts or bowshots. hence ancient mail armor tends to be reinforced in the shoulders, helmets have sloping rims and neck guards, etc. dead-on shots to center mass were what the shield was for.
@@joshridinger3407This is very interesting take that probably will stay with me for interpreting armour of this period. It still makes me wonder as mail, especially a quality one, with rings ending with hole intended for hammered pin, seam to be very labour taking and therefore had to be costly - deciding to integrate metal plate or couple ones into structure, if not for added protection (if metalurgy wasn't there yet, as quality one piece breastplate of same thickness also requires good work and material), then surelly would cut time needed to produce full set, bringing cost down with it. From mercenaries to less wealthy crusaders to equiping whole batalions it probably would've be wanted, so there had to be a reason why this style was never that popular.
@@Dolritto well the romans did eventually experiment with plate armor (the segmentata) though that, too, was reinforced in the shoulders. as were the spolas/linothorax. the corslet with overlapped shoulders was favored for armors made of many materials.
@@joshridinger3407 the samurai also had reinforced shoulders and neck guarding rim on helmets to block blows from above. The euro knights had cross guards on their swords to block down blows. The samurai and Romans had crap small round guards on their swords so they needed good top protection.
Cross guard changes armour duty.
Granted my main area of study is French armors, but there Germans (per your comment at the end) pretty much universally did what you stated before and doubled up mail, often wearing a separate apron on top of other mail and garments.
If anyone's interested in tens of videos about the evolution of Medieval armor in detail I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's military historical units series
Hey, we can see most of Matt's garage with this breastplate!
Plate pieces have been found in Khazar burials.
Encased greaves and Pauldrons.
I have to wonder if the Pauldrons were attached to lamellar as it would seem wise to cover the chest as well.
It was a pyre cauldron burial so if organic material lamellar was used it's gone and having worn lamellar, I think it is a excellent overlooked armour.
Especially if built with differing sized lames depending on the body area.
So small and more dense on the torso etc.
Definitely going to have to incorporate a stoprib into my paladin's breastplate now!
Other thoughts on groin protection at Agincourt is there are many men in front of you. Would make targeting the groin trickier, except for the front rank. Also harder if the arrows are coming from above, and not many people would be standing still and square in relation to the archer, they'll be moving. And the maille and cloth armour over the groin is 'floating', away from the body, so that will absorb the incoming energy to just move the maille skirt, before the arrow gets to any meaty bits.
I could listen to you talk for hours, you have so much knowledge, I hope to be as wise and as knowledgable as you are!
Are you hindu?
Hey Matt. Funily enough, I bought a Churburg Brestplate from Artos Munitorum a few weeks before, and I love it.
Thank you for your work. As I'm currently working on late 14th century "Melyador" from Jean Froissart and its depiction of armor, this video will be very helpful.
Have a great day. :)
One thing I do not recall hearing was the total weight one might be wearing once kitted up for battle
The many armor types found in the mass grave at 6:00 all look very interesting, but analyzing those might be like the WWII bomber analysis where they were going to reinforce all the damage on planes that returned and a smart guy said they should really reinforce the other areas because planes hit there did not return to base to be analyzed.
Good stuff! I love this kind of practical history.
I'd be very interested in a video on the topic of your dissertation - why did people move away from relying on chain alone. I guess you briefly answered it - better protection against arrows, crossbow bolts and lances. But may be there was a supply side effect - more availability of metals and blacksmithing? Over the whole Medieval period, armour as a whole became more common - perhaps partly because it was handed on, but maybe also more development of mining and industry?
Look at the size of horses during the battle of Hastings then follow along. Mike Loades answered this a long time ago, the more potent Calvary shock warfare got, the more mail need to be supplemented with rigid defense
In the middle of the 14th century, or even earlier, when coats of plates, pair of plates etc. became more "settled" technology, they seem to be already significantly cheaper than hauberks, for most part.
Which is understandable, I mean, some Visby armors are like 20-30 plates, few dozens or rivets and cloth or leather backing. Time consuming to make but perhaps, but really nothing compared to 25 thousands solid rings, 25 thousands of open rings, and 25 thousands of rivets that could easily go to your average hauberk.
Then Black Death came, and work-hour famously got much, much valuable, winding prices of mail even higher.
So aside from any possible differences in protection, mail was always very expensive and time consuming to make, especially good one, simple breastplates or coat of plates banged out using water powered hammer could me assembled much, much quicker.
@@PJDAltamirus0425 Yes, arrows have always been around so I wondered if it was lances and shock cavalry. It was interesting that Matt said the first medieval breastplates were probably for tournaments - if they had jousts, that would be consistent with what you/Mike Loades argue.
Excellent video. Please continue being Matt Easton
Amazing as always.
Thanks for the video ⚔️
Great video!
Concerning the mail, I've been wearing mail during battles for over 20 years, and I can say that not only does it prevent you from being cut, but unlike many say, it also does cushion the impact. People tend to think that it's the padding that does that only, but I've been in fights where I only wore mail over a woollen tunic, and mail tends to sort of spread the blunt force so it doesn't come in as hard. Of course, if someone were to hit you with a two-handed polearm, you'll get bruises and maybe break a bone. But against swords it's actually pretty alright! So if you were wearing mail covering your groin and upper legs, that might actually do a lot to protect you from blows.
great video
My space-age tech frying pan is cutting-edge 1800's cast iron technology...
A modern Teflon-coated frying pan is as far-removed from an 1800s cooking pot as the Sopwith Camel is from the Thunderbolt P-47. Use a better analogy if you're going to draw dodgy comparions.
Also there's a difference between our modern perceptions of armour and perhaps how they viewed it historicly. Armour was a lifeinsurance, not something that automaticly imunizes you to hits. So if it improved your chances of surviving, it would be worth it, whatever penetrated penetrated less than it would have without armour
I really think the timing of plate armor has to do with construction techniques and economics. I assume forging iron or steel wire for mail is much easier than forging a single large quality plate of steel. Once the technology was there everyone adopted it.
And in ancient times the plates were bronze which is a different technology
The guy who wrote "Sapiens" a bestseller, is also a medieval weapon historian by the way. Matt should drop him a line.
One feature of the globular breastplate shape mentioned by a number of commentators (including Knyght Errant) is that the pinched waist shifts some of the weight of the armor to the hips and off the shoulders.
Being related to Matt must be hell. He's the coolest uncle anyone could have.
I think the sole purpose of the bulbous chest plate is to allow breathing. When being crushed on the ground by another knight you can still breath. It also helps the soldiers mobility because they can breath better.
It’s all about breathing.
ive seen a theory that that is the reason for the bowl shaped in hoplite shields
.....Delfection. One the flipping huge advantages of plate armor over lammeler, scale, etc the larger the plate, the more delfective in can be. Hell, the deflective raised surface means even mild steel breastplate is hard cus you have deflective surface, then a small crumble zone before you actually damage a guy underneath.
It’s probably a mix of things, itll definitely help with breathing, especially with a backplate since it’ll create a ridged structure that won’t collapse
But it’s also a hell of a lot more protective than a flat plate because of the angling it’ll deflect most things that it it and stuff that bites will usually be pushed alway causing say a lance to have to travel through more material than it would other wise while also deflecting it
@@PJDAltamirus0425 that’s just a fortunate bi product. I’m sure the first prototype was tight to the body and the rich guy having it commissioned said make it with room for my diaphragm to breath. I don’t think he got hit by an arrow or lance and said make this more deflective. It’s just a bi product that has been tweaked even more. Deflection has clearly been taken into account when making the breast plates but it’s not the origin of the shape. It is the origin of the crease down the front, not the bulbous shape.
@@jungoder1085 you might look at a jock cup and say that must be to deflect blows when it’s actually used to disperse the blow out to the edge.
Dispersion is what it’s designed to do.
Disperse the blow around your lungs and diaphragm. Keeps you from getting the wind knocked out of you.
Deflection is usually bad because it deflects into your arms , neck , crotch or legs. It would be better to take it on the Brest plate directly unless it’s a jousting lance
I wonder why mirror armor in the East (disc armor/klibanion/krug/zertsalo/shar aina etc) evolved straight into brigandine and never adopted similar single globular breastplate design.
I’ve read that Persian armor design was essentially an exercise in well roundness, they wanted their units to have equals chances in melee fests against the franks and keep up an archery skirmish against the mongols. Brigandine and mail and plates are essentially allows to do that easier. Also, climate, brigandine and mail and plates are front opening and mail js ventilating, thus you don it and remove it faster , keeping you cool.
I'd imagine that shiny dome as being like an oven! But I have heard somwhere that the shiny kept/keeps the heat down. Trying to remember where.
Yeah probably cavalry games. East of carpathian mountains a lot of terrain is flat hills, steppes etc. Only in Belarus and northern half of Russia there are heavy forests. Which stayed semi-independent from mongols.
Basically all of the opponents were nomadic light cavalry.
A lot of southern expansion Russia did pre-1700 was basically moving the line of wooden walls and forts south.
I suspect the climate and the style of warfare is the main reason. 4 mirrors armour (chahar aina) and the round disc armour which preceded it was worn over mail shirts, complete plate armour in Middle Eastern summers would have caused the wearers to overheat where as mail can “breathe”. Middle eastern warfare also relied more on horse archery and cavalry charges with light lances and sabres, rather than guys beating the hell out of each other with pollaxes or shooting each other with heavy crossbows.
Because it's not true? Klibanion has nothing to do with brigandine or mirror armor. Mirror armor and brigandine both became popular in asia and eastern Europe in the 1300, worn together sometimes. By 1400 you have mail-and-plate armor that starts becoming popular and that will gradually remplace brigandine especially in the 16th century. In China brigandine stayed strong well into the Qing dynasty. While Chinese sources state clearly that large plates were not economically viable to equip all the gouvernement troups and thus their mirror armors stayed small, in Persia and india you have basically large square cuirasses that are slightly dommed that evolve out of mirror armor/char aina in the late 16th century. India also adopted them and even copied european breastplates. For the ottomans it's most likely again different economic policy (more centralised, unlike the great nobles of indo persia buying breastplates for themselves) and army composed of more light range units. Also in europe by the late 16th century plate armor isnt globular anymore and becomes even flatter in the following century
The globular design is also a "one size fits all" approach. Even then, some nobles had a bit more girth than others.
btw. Churburg.. you should visit the games and joust and the great battle of Calven that take place every year.
11:39
Id say the doublets and cuirasses sharing that shape started by design more than fashion. Both are requiring the closest fit using non-elastic materials, need to pivot where the torso pivots, and needing to breathe. (although the exact level and shape of the waistline and chest curve do change together, with fashion)
Yes Matt you should put together a new 14th century armour. In fact you could do a video on splinted and transitional armour and why you think it was phased out
Brunn, Brynn (with a long u or ü), represented in all Germanic languages from Gothic to Old Norse and Old high German, means something like breastplate. You can argue that by Old Norse (really hundreds of years after Old English and almost a thousand after Gothic) this as well as grim (at least in the earlier sense of metal visor) is an archaic term not understood by most people.
The armour from Visby was old fashioned at the time of the battle/massacree in 1361. It was the local millitsia on the island of Gotland who took up a fight against an invading army. At that time a modern knights gauntlet could be made of 40 pieces of steel.
I just want to say that mail with breastplate on top of it looks so cool. My favourite style in armour fashion.
I was trying to learn about these and would like to get one.
the 1100's was richard the lionheart, not the third
I would absolutely love to hear more about the development of the Coat of Plates through the 1300s. Terms, adaptations, and things that change a circa 1280 Coat of Plates from a 1340 Coat of Plates to a 1380 Coat of Plates, and later into the forms most people address as a mid-15th century Brigandine.
With those early breast plates being worn, predominantly, for jousting, then it's highly unlikely that a knight would need groin protection beyond that provided by the pommel of the saddle.
Also, during battle, knights (except the English) generally charged their opponents on horseback, again having the pommel to protect their groin area.
If they were forced to fight on foot, then those things Matt mentioned (maille, padding, etc.) would have been considered sufficient for the purpose.
Broigne or ring armor is for of primitive brigandine it's a jacket The broigne consists of a garment to which rigid reinforcements called mesh or macles are attached.
The difference between a broigne and a hauberk is that in a hauberk, the links (macles) are connected together without intermediate support.
The term Broigne (bronie in the Song of Roland around 1080) would come from the Gallic bronia, “breast, chest”, because it is a jerkin which protected the chest. It was reinforced in the High Middle Ages by Old Low Frankish *brunnia "chain mail, armor, protection" (Old High German brunnī, brunni, brunna, brunia "chain mail, armor, protection" modern German Brünne) .
Broignes appeared at the time of Charlemagne and were used until the beginning of the 14th century.
Another advantage, that I don't think should be overlooked with the globos-shape of breastplate is that the dome shape is very resistant to deformation as compared to something flatter.
This might not help so much against things that can actually penetrate, but it will certainly help a lot against denting, especially with the softer iron armour.
A friend of a friend knew a bloke at work who used to re-enact, mainly at weekends and lunch breaks, great battles in his mind but he had to make his armour out of cardboard and tinfoil.
Matt Good segment. In Thomas Asbridge's "The First Crusade" recounting the Crusaders march to Antioch through high mountain passes, I quote, "Not knowing what to do with themselves and their armour, and offering to sell shields, valuable breastplates and helmets". (p. 148). This was in 1097. What kind of breastplates do you think they were selling? Thanks for your channel.
The piece work also says an article of armor could be added as money came available.
Great vid, Matt. Why wouldn't the stop rib be at the highest possible point of the armour? Does it interfere with the aventail?
You do need to put that early late armour together 😁
German armour in this age rocks. The ulrich lehnart books "Waffen und Kleidung in der Spätgotik" and "Medieval Armour Costume and Weapons", Wagner et al, show the style nicely.
In regards to the breastplate only covering certain parts, I note that those same areas are covered/exposed on a modern bullet proof plate carrier. I think part of this is it is hard to ride a horse or in a car with full coverage, however I also think there is a bit of a cost benefit analysis where at some point extra weight on your waist makes it hard for you to move and therefore more vulnerable. With both the modern and ancient design I think there is also the knowledge that you might survive a wound to the leg with medical attention, but the head, neck, lungs are heart are instant game over.
The fabric covering and rivets was probably the main reason why the coat of plates (or brig) didn't have a stop rib (especially on globos coat of plates).
I read an article explaining why in the UK you drive on the left. Having to do with wearing swords 🗡️ and being right handed. Of course began hundreds of years ago 😮
Swords! The traditional reason to lead your lady on your right.
And then I saw ladies on men's left. Probably because nobody cares (that's just primitive :- )), and because, so says another tradition, she can be closer to your heart on your left.
anyway, swords affect a bunch of non-military things in interesting ways.
7:24 I imagine nasty crossbows, and possibly early guns.
I always found it curious how the Greeks and then the Romans had breastplates (what we might call cuirasses) that were very common among heavy cavalry and infantry who could afford them, and then towards the end of the Roman period we see this shift towards mail and soft fabric armor(what we might call variants of gambeson). I guess there are always the common 'catch all' 'collapse of the economy' type answers, but I always find those solutions to be wanting, or at the least not the whole story.
Another thing that has always fascinated me is the 'linothorax' of the ancient Greeks. I know it's not really your specialty, but that would be an interesting subject for testing. It's a tricky subject because a lot of the 'key' ideas of what a linothorax is are fairly nebulous or seem to be disputed. It's kind of like a different riff on the gambeson, and I always wonder why it might have been adopted when, what I see as the more obvious answer to this problem(ie. how do we make affordable armor out of fabric), the soft gambeson, doesn't appear on the historical record until much later. The only thing I can think is that maybe it was better at dissipating heat in the Mediterranean climate. But, then, we do have Byzantines wearing a variant of gambeson into the medieval period.
I do wonder why you never see any wooden breastplates for lower class troops. Supposing for whatever reason you weren't going to carry a shield, you could make a cheap breastplate with the same techniques as you use to make a shield, to put over a gambeson. If you wanted some flexibility, you could even make it in two sections. One that hung from the shoulders and fit over a lower section that hung from the waist. Wooden splint armor for the arms and legs makes sense too. Outside of tribal armors, I wonder why I haven't seen much like it elsewhere.
I think at this point it might be more accurate to say, "Chainmail, historically known as 'maille'...." Language changes and I think the change is largely complete here. Thank you (?) Gary Gygax.
For years I've been wanting to know, is that Sir Morien at 3:22 or St. Maurice? I've seen both names attributed to that figure
Cheers
Where did you get your brigandine and how much did you pay for it? I’m looking for reliable armor makers for SCA and HEMA
Trapp family
The trapps from”Sound of Music?”
Are there any examples of steel/iron muscle cuirasses from the archaic period?
uh-oh, you mentioned scale armor 😳Are there any images of that online? Curious how it looks in this context. I only get fantasy stuff when I search for it 🤔
Great video. Thanks
1) I think you need a longer breast plate. I suspect that you’re taller than the original wearer 😂
2) If they were used to wearing a coat of plates before the breast plate I would assume they would adjust them to cover the places the new armour didn’t cover. Eg the lower belly and groin.
Separate point, i often have to explain to people that there is usually more armor than what is visible. Especially japanese armor. "Thats dumb that they just have cloth on their arms, what if they get hit there?" Me: "well akshually, there is chain maille underneath the cloth"
I think it's a pretty sure bet that breastplates became curved for entirely pragmatic reasons, they offered greater protection from piercing weapons.
if you know anything about tank armour you understand the importance of angles in it
Was there ever a pre coat of plates armour where bronze might have been used? IE "my mail is great but the ancients used bronze as well" so they came up with a bronze cuirass on top of the mail.?
For the pelvis area some people just chose mobility over armor. It's a trade off. What's going to "mince your meat" worse having more exposure or having less mobility
"Choburg" Is the local name, the italian name Is "castel Coira". It Is in Val Venosta, close to Austria. Beautiful places, well worth a visit
No the name is "Churburg". The italian name is irrelevant because the area was assigned to italy by the allies after 1919 on the basis of a secret treaty, against the will of the population. The castle is a tyrolean castle with a tyrolean owner family and a tyrolean history. And the valley is the "Vinschgau" in the southern part of historic tyrol, today Southtyrol.
@@tobiasbacher536 i Am not denying the rich history of south tyrol, neither its historic Heritage, or the forced integration intona foreign state that the local population was subjected to. However, south tyrol, in 2024, Is an (autonomous) province in North Italy
@@tobiasbacher536 south Tyrol is Austria!
@@TeutonicEmperor1198 you teutonics better go back to sweden 😂
@@tobiasbacher536 you should be thankful you still own lands south of denmark, your homeland. Very ungrateful of you.
Any Turtle shell breast plates back then ?
For a standalone breastplate, why does it end so abruptly and seemingly unfinished where the shoulderstraps start? Feels like they could've finished that a little more pleasing to the eye.
Any shock applied to the breastplate has to go somewhere - stopping short of the collarbone, basically on the pectoral muscles, might be a good idea!
That and metal straps over the shoulder can restrict movement with the maille underneath.
German SEK(armed police/swat) also uses mail when they have to deal with stabby people.
Globular breastplate vs Disk/Sun Armour, which of these two is more protective? Why the disk/sun armour outlived the later?
you would have thought that they would for sure take all of the armor off of those bodies before throwing them in the grave
If the wound is bad enough you’ll actually be in combat for the rest of your life.
Has Matt ever done his Ancestry DNA or 23&Me? I'd love to know where he's from. I've never seen an indigenous Englishman, let alone an indigenous European, with ears that far down their neck. This phenotype is specific to the Levant, mostly Jewish in ancestry. So it'd be really interesting to see where his family is from and when they arrived in the UK and how they got there.
I've done a few videos about ancestry and my DNA stuff.
English 51%, Scottish 23%, Sweden/Denmark 13%, Germany 7%, Ireland 6%. All my great-grandparents were British, except one who was German (Prussian Protestant). I look somewhat like my Scottish ancestors from family photos. 0% Jewish on both Ancestry and 23&Me.
I was not wondering about Matt's groin......
I look forward to like 50 years from now when someone actually finds out why they're called cuirasses.
Well, you've got your leathernecks, and your leatherbacks, and then you've got your leather***es.
@@texasbeast239 leatherdikes?
@@hulking_presence Well OK if you want. But I was trying to keep it about body parts.
Nice maile, you should wear it more.
Weight and weight distribution are an issue.
was that a 'Maile Call' ;)
@@thekaxmax I am very much aware of that, my own weighs around 20 kg
@13:00 interesting frying pan 🤨
Did I just mishear? I swear he said Richard III in relation to the late 1100s at around 1:55 and again at 2:05. Or am I just losing my hearing in my old age and he actually said Richard I? I wish I could say my hearing was impaired because I was wearing a great helm, but this is not alas the case. Nor was it the din of battle. Just me I guess.
A drinking game, when we take a shot every time Matt says "penetration", would KO even the most hardened eastern european vodka enthusiasts.
Why did german knights had proto-folds much later: Could it just have been how they fought, or at least how they expected to fight? If one expects only to fight on horseback than one has the saddle to protect the hips and the groin.
Morgarten was in 1315. Bevor that Ritter - Knights - in the HRE were very horsecentric.
[throws mace]
Richard III in late 1100’s? Did you mean Richard I?
Yes!
All I saw was a knight with nipple chains
are lorica segmentatas considered plate armour?
I don't agree with that the origin of the word "cuirass" comes from the French "cuir" (leather), but I believe that comes from the French "coeur" (heart), so cuirass means "plate that protects hearth", that sounds a lot more sense to me.
I don't think it's possible on the ground of Old French though, both words had quite different vowels in them, and were written differently.
Moreover, there are words like Old Italian corazza, or Late Latin coriaceus, referring to some kind or armor, and they all come from Latin "corium". So it was probably some gradual semantic evolution, from "some kind of leather garment" to "Armor, breastplate". Maybe indeed trough some armors that involved both leather and iron.
@@lsciborYes, but, we don't have any piece of armour conserved made of leather solely or partially, except for brigandines, and brigandines are later pieces and there were called... brigandines, not cuirass (at least at these languajes). Also I didn't see any leather armour on pictures and representations of the time. Maybe I'm wrong, but I didn¡t saw them.
@@juanmolinafernandez3983 They could be named due leather backing, leather straps securing them or from some completely different reason, due to some semantic shift.
The name for "liver" in modern Romance languages comes from the word for "fig" apparently due to the custom of eating them with figs.
Seems weird, but it just means that sometimes such weird shifts happen in languages.
This is my groin. Let me show you it's features.
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Late 12th Century...did you mean Richard I?
It's all very well and fancy, all these latest models on the show room floor, but where are the vids about the manufacturers ?
Had to have been a practical man who suggested a snip here and a tuck there.
Who and What, Where and When, Why and How ? All them nifty designs for every purse. Spontaneous, was it all, 'spose ?
HOW ? Is the Q?
Complaint - need - design - manufacture - stores - materials - producers ?
There were a lot of panel beaters banging on about things. Who were they ?
If you are building late 14th early 15th century armor you should have a klappvisor
Only in Germany really. There is only 1 example shown in English art of the time, and that was a window probably made in Flanders and imported.
Whenever you said "skirt" i immediately flashed back to middle school where a girl at my table was excited to see Troy, because Brad Pitt was going to wear a skirt. I just had to interrupt. "Its armor, he isnt wearing it just for looks." She was flabbergasted. It took her a whole 5 seconds to respond. "What? Really?"
For the life of me, I can't remember what exactly i said then, but the gist is "its better than getting stabbed in the dick or cut on the thigh"
She asked why it looked so much like a skirt. I didnt really have an answer back then...😢
It's weird how armour has moved to and from plates throughout history. It always makes me think of the roman armor that was so very similar to the visby plates, and hundreds of years of just mail between 🤷♂️.
I like this breastplate, but the coverage is minimal compared to the coat of plates.
@scholagladiatoria or anyone in the comments: what were the chains hanging off early breast plates for...other than an interesting Friday night that is?
To attach to the sword, dagger and great helm. It was popular for a few decades, as a way of not losing weapons during combat.
@@scholagladiatoria thank you! ❤️
they say Matt but what about your groin ?
the Black Russian I think
quote the TV reference 😇