Free Speech, Comedy, and Woke Culture | Konstantin Kisin
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- Опубліковано 5 кві 2020
- Please note that this conversation was recorded in 2019 before the COVID-19 crisis.
Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British comedian, podcaster, writer and social
commentator. He made international headlines in 2018 by refusing to sign a
university “behavioural agreement form” which banned jokes about religion,
atheism and insisted that all humour must be “respectful and kind.”
He is also the creator and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry UA-cam show.
He and John have much to discuss, including the attacks on free speech we see throughout the Western democracies today.
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Notice how as a white, British, Christian nation we are constantly judged by the worst actions of our ancestors, whilst being told that all others. including ethnic minorities living here can't be judged by the worst actions of their contemporaries.
PC lunacy reigns supreme.
I'm half British & half Vietnamese & I grew up in the 80's
Back then, my very leftist teachers would treat all immigrant kids different- better.
I was always in the middle.
And we can't even be sure they were our actual ancestors. Who knows... My or your ancestors might have been peasants in distant lands who had nothing to do with past "sins."
My new mantra is WOKE IS WRONG
@@superdragons111andwolfgame7That's because you're listening to people who don't know what woke is. You have a bunch of not very smart people making it a dirty buzzword instead of having any idea what it really is.
What he said about his parents using their life savings to move to a free speech country, and then the threats to free speech the UK now faces, was actually quite emotional to listen to. I like this guy.
You should watch the 2 part series "the truth about triggernometry" he goes in to what happened to his family in the USSR.
like likem likem?
They didn't move, they sent him. It was even a bigger sacrifice because they put their lives on the line as well.
the same is happening in the USA
What a load of BS! People can talk all they want and say what they want. But in truth the majority of people who emigrated from USSR did this in hopes to have more money and more shiny things and didn't give a rat's arse about some "freedom". But of course you don't just go around saying to people "I am a greedy motherf..ker and I want be rich and have nice house and sh..t". So you say: "Oh, I want freedom, yeah!" Hypocrisy of the West (and some b..tches from USSR greedy for money) is the main Western "value".
Konstantin.. Ure a very educated individual. As a blk person from Jamaica, I had realised that brit blacks appear to be primed to see discrimination. I have had exp with my partner, who is mixed, but somehow he sees discrimination in instances that I cannot see. Then I get told that this has happened to me and it's like I'm silly not to have noticed it.. But I don't notice it as I'm not looking for it and so don't know wat 'it' is. I was never taught to look for 'it'and that is the difference I have seen between me and others. Where there are instances of overt discrimination however I can see it in a heartbeat and usually so can everyone else.
If you are indoctrinated to se the devil in every corner, you will se the devil everywhere.
Jamaica's motto is 'Out of many, one people' . Whereas now in Britain we have adopted the unofficial slogan 'out of many, many people'. Social breakdown and division are the result.
@@sdrawkcabUK same here in the US
Catina: it’s the same here in the US. The West Indians are so cool & nice (easy to deal with and productive) whereas so many of the mainland US blacks have chips on their shoulders (so angry and stubbornly uncooperative) that make it impossible to deal with them. Others are my friends and/or people I’ve enjoyed working with but the urban black culture here is terrible and teaches bad attitudes. (Many of them sorely resent the success and mellow self-confidence of the islanders and the fact that whites have no problem with islanders even though they are at least as black as our mainland blacks. And I doubt they know that slavery was many times more brutal in the West Indies than here.) I think that one element is that the women of the West Indies seem to be treated better by their men, although I am just guessing. What to do?
You are correct. As they say , if you are a hammer, everything you see is a nail.
This is one of those gems of an interview it's possible to find on you tube. It's brilliant.
The section on 'honest conversation' and authenticity is superb. He explains Trumpism better than anyone. Trump was just being himself in a political bubble where everyone else was 'faking it' - Hillary being the ultimate fake.
I always love John Anderson's Interviews but here the dynamics were particularly beautiful:
The gravitas of the older, wise conservative vs the edge of the young, daring comedian, but both equally sincere.
THIS is how public discourse between people of different age, origin, views and temperament would be in an ideal world.
This 'comedian' is far from 'daring' or 'sincere', I'm afraid
In an ideal world we wouldn’t have the head of police as a leso called caress a dick..
Or a Russian that claims to be british along with a 4x2.
This is like living in a bad bond movie where someone like abbot is the super villain but completely inept and surrounded by low iq henchmen..
@@craggerrs you're rightly afraid..
@@craggerrs What makes you say that?
completely agree, well said.
Fantastic interview. I completely agree with forgiveness disappearing from society. I see it practically every day and is also a reason why I've recently left social media.
I was recently permanently banned from twitter for tweeting "are you retarded?" and "stop being retarded".
The person who got me banned bragged on twitter about how he scrolls through the feeds of people whose politics he doesn't like explicitly to find things that are reportable, and he got permanently banned for abusing the report button.
Honestly, I could murder someone, do my time and twitter would allow me to have an account. But using the word "retard" is worthy of permanent exile from twitter.
@@girlwriteswhat 2 months late, but I really wanted to show you this related clip.
ua-cam.com/video/eOBoKxEcVAA/v-deo.html
It's not up to the perpetrator of a crime to decide when his victim should forgive him - especially if the perpetrator has never been brought to justice for his crimes.
I would like to add an extra view on Andersons words about humility. He says that people feel comfortable mixing with people who practice humility but I have found if you come up against the conceited Gen Z or Millenium people being polite and not shouting your views is seen as weakness and you will be treated with contempt. It seems also that many people gravitate to towards the most pushy and loud persons for leadership.
The Taliban kept their account. Jordan Peterson was banned.
So true about Cathy Newman , I can never take her seriously after Jordan pulled her to pieces . Never watched her since
She's not watchable, even her visuals are dismal!
In a few years Cathy will come out of it looking good. That experience takes a while to pay off.
@@Nick_fb Haha, dream on buddy. She's rekt vor eternity.
@@Nick_fb So you're saying her career is over?
@@Nick_fb - No, she really won't!!! If and when the world recovers its equilibrium with common sense and logic restored, she will look a great deal worse!!!
As a British man i can now see that George Orwell was right when he said "in times of Universal lies and deceit telling the truth will be seen as a Revolutionary act". So Britain is becoming like 1984 the book by George Orwell, and the Bible book of Revelation is a good guide for those still asleep.🇬🇧
In my 40's I have been, by choice, ignorant of any goings on in the world for the very reason these two talk about. I'm hooked on the authenticity and honest speech, I forgot what that sounded like! Thank you!
I could have written the exact same comment with the exception that I'm almost 70. It's very troubling to say the least. I hope we find a way out of this mess because if we don't it will destroy us.
@robertmailander2493 but the fact that you have broken free inspires us. 🌟
I'm here because I saw parts of this interview that were translated into Russian and are used to show how bad it is to live in England. Now its a part of russian propaganda. Check facts, please.
Two of my favorite level headed thinkers conversing without prideful posturing. UA-cam will have to cancel this for sure.
scott allan
I like John for sure . But Kisin?
I’m surprised he made it to a favorite list . But to each his own I suppose 👍
Not at all, they are actively promoting it, he represents the acceptable non-racist face and not at all right-wing of the extreme right. He's very much their favourite kind of right-winger, and not just because of his so-called (((Russian-British))) ethnicity. If you watch a video from the naughty list UA-cam will serve up something like this, Douglas pretty-boy Murray or Jordan bloody Peterson every time as the next video which will autoplay if you're not quick enough to stop it.
@@MartinWillett I don't know what is going on in your life that the best advocates for better society you appear to dislike. Jordan Peterson, Douglas Murray, John Anderson, Konstantin Kisin, the four best white journalists I can think of. What do you think about Candace Owens, Larry Elder and Thomas Sowell?
@@scottya1967 What is going on is that UA-cam are deciding for me that I want to see kosher approved "radical thinkers" when I have just been watching something they don't want anybody to see. I would be gobsmacked if this gatekeeper content was being selected for normies to view unless they made an effort to find it. No. This stuff is prescribed like methadone to people who have already been using the real stuff.
scott don’t forget Sam Harris. Another amazing speaker and writer on this topic
I would include Andrew Doyle as well
Thanks John for feeding our minds with some nourishing food.
This is the best video you have made so far.
That young man spoke honestly, positively about the world
As it really is.
When we have a religion growing in this country based on dislike of the
People and the country .
And our politicians, judiciary , police , media all talking
from the same script .
Trouble is on it,s way fast.
This is excellent but I’ve seen many others with John every bit as good-so please watch more and you will be pleasantly surprised.
Watch his interviews with Douglas Murray
By 'we have a religion growing in this country...' I suppose you mean I-slam. I'm an Indian-in India. I wonder why BBC feeds and nourishes the narratives of this religion of hate; whereas portraying Hindus (perhaps because they are in MAJORITY) as the real villains and wicked people trying to get rid of all the Muslims in India?
I watched konstine and thought him funny , but the more i found out about him , the more impressed i was with his intellect
Yes he’s a very very clever man.
I quite often watch Triggernometry’ and his friend doing his best to keep up!
Maybe read a little more. You may still agree with him but he upset the internet a few months ago.
John Colman
I don’t really care if he ‘upset the internet’ whatever that means and I don’t feel the need to only listen to people I agree with.
For example I always find the Duran interesting but that doesn’t blind me to the obvious fact that they are madly pro-Russian. Similarly I listen to the Grayzone but am not a ‘progressive’. Same for Jimmy Dore and Jamarl Thomas.
I think what John Colman is referring to is that KK pissed off extremists by not kowtowing to their demands. They've since moved on.
Without forgiveness and redemption, we have only paralysis and fear.
Great interview! I've seen him interview others and the few times he's been a guest on talk shows. But seeing him being interviewed really drives home how much he's thought about these critical subjects.
@@thegentleman4873 serious question, are you sure it's Triggernometry that's deleting the comments themselves and not some UA-cam algorithm or moderator?
Second, assuming that they are deleting the comments themselves, is it possible that Triggernometry removed the comment as an effort to deal with the constantly changing community guidelines? UA-cam has explicitly stated that channels can get demonetized and penalized for comments made by third parties on their videos.
If they are truly deleting comments that they disagree with but aren't otherwise objectionable, then I dislike their choice and disagree with their choice.
"I dont think any discrimination can be positive" 👏👏
The power and status of victimhood. The world has turned on its head
Actually the ability and willingness to discriminate is what makes it possible to have values. Discrimination is just another word whose meaning has been twisted and lost.
@@patriciakimball8150 good point. Yes it has a different meaning altogether now and is often seen in negative terms, as being anti as opposed to pro something. I guess that's the idea of prefacing it with the positive but either way it isn't equality as it's claimed to be
Dr Peterson says a similar thing about hierarchies.
@@zeldagoblin doesnt he say that hierarchies are natural?
Given that discrimination is part of the human conditon, I guess all positive discrimination does is replace the old boy network with one based on political correctness
What an intelligent man this konstantin kisin. I’m very impressed. He has to be gifted if not an genius.
Thank you, John, for these compelling conversations. I always look forward to them.
Konstantin is excellent.
I had not heard of him before.
Thanks for the conversation.
The people who suffer when a war ends are the arms dealers. The arms dealers of feminism were the academics who made their careers arguing for feminism, and although feminism achieved most of its goals by the early 80s, these academics have kept the war going. An entire industry exists finding new, ever more ridiculous and extreme grievances against men.
I like your analogy. It can be said that many activists are "the arms dealers" of wars that ended in a previous generation. Feminism, racism, homosexuality, even the environment and workplace safety are examples that come to mind.
There's a difference between an actual cause, and an ideology. People with an honest cause achieve their goals and then go home. Ideologues will keep going, because their identity has become tied to the ideological struggle. No matter how many legal rights are handed to feminists, the chest-beating victimology will continue and the demands will become more shrill and hysterical.
There are a few (related, but subtly different) psychological phenomena at work here:
1) belief perseverance. Once you have constructed a grand, unifying theory to explain the world and you truly believe it, you'll do everything you can to suppress disconfirming information. Ignaz Semmelweis was persecuted and his practice of hand-washing discontinued (at the cost of many lives over many years) because medicine at that time was based on the nervous excitation/four humours framework. If hand-washing prevented disease, there was just no way to integrate that reality into the existing model. It made no sense, so it had to go (and so did he, to a mental institution where, somewhat ironically, he soon died, likely of sepsis).
2) sunken cost fallacy. Imagine you've made an amazing career based on a theory (let's say, feminism's "patriarchy" conjecture). That's a big investment of time, energy, thought, often money (women's studies ain't free, yo). Even if your commitment to the theory is fairly shallow, you'll still throw good money after bad to avoid admitting to yourself that your initial investment was a waste.
3) "when in doubt, shout!" When someone has a deeply held belief and they're exposed to disconfirming evidence, if they can successfully defend the belief against that evidence they get a huge hit of dopamine. This simultaneously rewards the successful defence while motivating the person to proselytize their belief to others. Oh, and the vigor of the defence (and the hit of dopamine) is greater the stronger the disconfirming evidence is. So basically, once that belief is deeply held, it's not only hell to shift, but after experiencing and then defeating the doubt, the believer wants to convince as many others as they can that their belief is true.
Over the course of 4 decades, we have witnessed within feminism a gradual (but very reluctant) integration of, say, male victims of intimate partner violence into their grand unifying theory of patriarchy. First, it was women don't hit men. Then, it was okay, women sometimes hit men, but only in self defence. Then, okay, women sometimes hit first, but that's preemptive self defence, or violent resistance against the oppressive patriarchal order. Then, well, okay, women sometimes hit for no good reason, but men are not as harmed by it because of physical differences and the surrounding sociopolitical context. If a man hits his wife, he's hitting her _because she is a woman._ If a woman hits her husband, she's not hitting him _because_ he is a man. Because of this sociopolitical context, domestic violence against women has broader societal implications for women as a group that don't exist in the reverse. Blah blah blah.
See? Patriarchy hurts men too! But not as much as it hurts women. Anything to defend the validity of the grand unifying theory.
karen straughan Thanks visiting specialist (no irony).
There is a subtler - I dunno meta? - level worth taking note of: for every POV, especially a deeply held belief, there exists its opposite, on the flip side of consciousness. Unfortunately, this polarity-flip is accessible much more easily in the individual than the ideological Institution; and even then, if, as you say above, Karen, the individual has made great, life-altering *sacrifices* for the conviction, it’s more deeply entrenched. I call it the “doublevée Syndrome” (from French, meaning “double-vee” which I render as “Vietnam Vet”: specifically those men who lost, say, a limb, or worse, in the War. They’ve got to justify it *somehow* right?
(We ALL suffer from Doublevée Sydrome; the Vietnam Vet is just the archetype.)
And then of course there are the usual whores just in it for the money.
@@girlwriteswhatthanks for that deep dive perspective KS. LYW.
Nearly an Hour of pure common sense, absolutely riveting stuff 🥰 👏🏼👏🏼 thank you both x
😊
When Hillary Clinton referred to 'deplorables' as "irreedemable" I knew immediately she wasn't the Methodist she claims she is because she did not believe in 'forgiveness'........
She only believes in whatever's expedient and lines her pockets
I agree ----Hilary's refusal to practice 'forgiveness' was a betrayal of her supposed Methodist roots...
Oh ! .. and let’s not forget the many assassinations of Clinton associates !!!
Hillary’s murder streak was another dead give away too !
You're wasting your energy. You're practically saying that the sun will rise.
“Irredeemable” as in can be ignored and preferably disposed of?
Exactly
Bloody love KK. He is developing his thought processes more and more, it’s great to be able to watch and learn
I'm here because I saw parts of this interview that were translated into Russian and are used to show how bad it is to live in England. Now its a part of russian propaganda. Please, check facts.
He's in the right wing mob now. Pals with the likes of Peterson, Murray, Musk etc
"Satire is angry and optimistic" -> 41:38 Brilliant!!!
Fantastic conversation between 2 well informed and thoughtful gentlemen. Thank you both
I've been delving into Triggernometry for a while now: this is impressive. Konstantin Kisin absolutely smashed it - a sparkling rising public intellect, totally nailed it yes mate. The kind of person you dream of arguing with!
Hate to break it to you, pal, but you are a conservative and good on you. Conservatives are painted with the pejorative of right wing or worse merely as a MSM and leftist smear tactic. Conservatives are far less destructive than progressives or leftists and much less militant.
But do remember that American slavery and white supremacy are only little stones in an historical quarry of slavery and supremacy extant in the UK and most every other society historically and some even nowadays, so the incessant reference the the misdeeds of America historically is tedious and only a kernel of the whole story.
What a fantastic interview - such clarity 👍👍
His point of pigeonholing everyone who holds dear the idea of "free speech", as well as others, as right-wingers or conservatives (at the very best) is truly something I have been tackling with when discussing with other people. This guy (God bless you, Kisin) made me realize that I would even put me into political categories I wouldn't identify myself with just because other people were calling me that in the first place... Amazing interview, John! After this one, subscription guaranteed.
This was an absolute breath of fresh air. Respect to you, sirs.
I'm here because I saw parts of this interview that were translated into Russian and are used to show how bad it is to live in England. Now its part of russian propaganda. Please, check facts.
I had never heard of Konstantin Kisin until last night when I saw his video about the woke culture and realized this is a person worth listening to. I am now commenting on this excellent interview, my second video with him. He said that freedom of speech and freedom of association are the fundamental principles of Western society. I would argue that the fundamental principle of Western society is not freedom of speech or association; rather the fundamental principle of Western society is the Judeo-Christian belief. Freedom of speech is a consequence of this belief; however, as a non-believer, he cannot accept this. Nevertheless, he is a very thoughtful person. He questions what would happen to our society if the notion of God ceased to exist. He points out very real possibilities. However, he need not be concerned about this, because God (not the notion of God) will never cease to exist.
I’ll shorten what would be a long comment by finishing with the following quote from the second book of Timothy, Chapter 3, verses 1-5, “1But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God- 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.” Note that the focus is in the last days. We’re not there yet, but we’re rapidly approaching it.
I love Kisin’s idea of fighting back to validate our principles. Unfortunately, things will only get worse, and we will certainly almost self-destruct. I can’t say what will become of Western culture, but the Judeo-Christian culture will remain. A better world is coming.
Refreshing. Such a delight to hear two people talking with authenticity and humor!
Keep up the good work John Anderson, you're set to become Australia's premiere Intellectual Dark Web representative.
There's nothing dark about it. This is all in the public domain, and all should be heard.
@@Toropetskii That's just what it was called, By Eric Weinstein I believe.
@@RH-vq6gk He's misusing an old label.
John is already premiere imho
Not only is free speech fundamental, the right to own property is also crucial.
Another great conversation, I trust Lionel Shriver is on your list!
Really enjoyed this. Never seen either Konstantin Kisin or John Anderson before. No chance of seeing anything like this in the mainstream media which is i suppose a way of isolating people with similar viewpoints. It's refreshing to see two people have a conversation about these topics in a calm manner rather than an argument which turns into the equivalent of chimps throwing crap at each other. I find myself as one of those people who doesn't speak out enough, who doesn't say what i think because it doesn't feel worth it when i think of all the hassle i would get back. Thankyou for this. It gives me the confidence to find my voice.
One of the main problems we have is conservative leaders unwilling to even acknowledge, let alone engage, in the cultural wars. Here in Australia we have a PM that openly says he is not interested in any of 'it', which means he finds it of no real consequence.
That's almost as dangerous as the war itself.
At 51:00.
I can think of another religion that has no forgiveness or redemption. It starts with I and ends with slam.
Religion is shite to keep us deluded.
To be fair, Christianity had the same kind of power, until the people rose above it.
Opiate of the masses eh
@@melvynobrien6193 surprisingly exactly what Solzhenitsyn thought before he realised that the interrogators in the 1930s and 1940s whatsoever had no power over truly God fearing men and women. Read Volume 1 of the Gulag Archipelago.
It's quite interesting you mentioned that particular religion have you read the books or spoken to anyone of that religion to come to that conclusion! Just genuinely curious
This guy is such a breath of fresh air, my God, what an inspiring young mind!
A correction: "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made." Groucho Marx. [not George Carlin, although he may have quoted Groucho]
Having seen this video, the speech of Konstantin in Oxford Union and some of his high profile interviews, I became fan of him. He is not a comedian, he is a true intellectual that puts comedy on some of his speeches.
Massive respect with Konstanin. Again, the jesters are the most honest and insightful people in the kingdom.
Please make more of these types of videos and promote them widely.
Breath of fresh air. Gives me hope. Thank you both.
Good on you John Anderson. I remember you from decades ago. At the time I had the impression you were a person of character, and looking back, I think I was right.
Wonderful interview. I'm an American, and i love this guy. I've heard him speak a few times, and just so much common sense.
I very nearly turned this off before it got going. So glad I stuck with it. This guy speaks some serious truisms about modern society. The only time I disagreed with him was when he said, 'I think we've gone a bit far'. It's gone way too far. It's ridiculous. I was born in '62 and I can tell you, modern day society has lost the plot entirely.
Wow what beautiful conversations thank you John for bringing this to our attention!!! The humanity and the world needs conversations like these!!
15 years ago internet was a happier, much better place. Smart and vibrant. Just open it and be amazed... But Now I am genuinely surprised to find videos like this, that have clarity and are free from bullcrap. Feels like holiday every time. And puts things into perspective too.
Relevant Brilliant.
Thank you for this very intelligent and mature interview.
Excellent stuff, Konstantin. Thank you. You too John.
"...then the idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone, all centuries but this and every country but his own." W.S. Gilbert in The Mikado, 1885. This phenomenon was known in 1885, but was not the dominant attitude.
This Quote
"Judging a person does not define who they are. ...it defines who you are" Unknown
To forgive is a tool to use, else the past is carried from one interaction into the next one. The burden of accumulated wrongs, those chains that bind the remembering, become entangled, then This "Today" is still bound to yesterday. Each day is new, yet not to forgive let's Today smell like The Old Yesterday.
Fascinating interview. Gives hope in a world that currently seems to have lost its moral compass; a world where value is placed upon insincere & superficial thinking. Definitely I'm going to follow Konstantin, so glad I stumbled upon this interview. Honesty, ability to admit mistakes, open- mindedness, not seeking self-aggrandisement, humility & forgiveness are vital.
When I heard Konstantin on Glenn Beck ,I just knew I had to learn more about him . This interview was all and more that I expected ,thank you.
My goodness, what a brilliant man!
Around minute 36:00 - when that started was the day Mohammed Ali said he was "the greatest". I remember it as clearly as it was yesterday. Even as a child, i was so taken aback by that. It was totally NOT done. It was considered bad form to even know your own stats! One of the best things i've ever heard in an AA meeting is "Strive to be average".
So refreshing to listen to these gentlemen.If only there were more of them. Thank you
Good talk, but I felt the concept of forgiveness was not discussed thoroughly enough, eg, why is it thought to be necessary, what is its effect, presence or absence in a relationship. John is clearly grounded in Christian culture, so for him this would be easy, but Konstantin, although a civilized intelligent man, seems like an unmoored boat. He agrees on the value of forgiveness, but (it seems to me) cannot acknowledge the faith source from whence it comes. Maybe he is, like our beloved Douglas Murray, a "Christian atheist"? Anyway, I really enjoy K's show (Triggernometry), he and his pal Francis are great interviewers. Perhaps they could interview John Anderson one day? Finally, many thanks for playing the former musical theme John (though I know others have been used). This one is beautiful, I just love it!
@ John Anderson thanks for your UA-cam channel, this just jogged my memory what is going on with The Ramsey center of western studies in Australia its needed more than ever.
I am so happy I was born in the 80s. Got to experience the pinnacle of western society - late 90’s to mid 00’s. It’s all downhill from here 🙈 Also why I didn’t have kids. I will just try to enjoy the last few years/decades before the crash. Stay safe out there and good luck ❤
Not decades, years!
This video has given me the opportunity to seriously consider forgiveness. Thank you!
An gripping interview. Great to hear an intelligent, eloquent, insightful young man speaking his truth without the interviewer having a particular agenda. I've just started following both of you.
An extraordinary opening already. Having lived in the former GDR it is all it takes to explain the "today's problem". Thanks Konstantin.
Great conversation. It's strange watching it with the perspective of what's currently unfolding around the world. It feels like, in many ways, these issues are being increasingly highlighted on the global stage. I've never seen so much national spirit amongst our communities. An ominous cloud looms above us now, all hands on deck to pull through.
'freedom of speech is now a conservative value' , so well said, good man.
Very true about mainstream media, I stopped watching mainstream news a long time ago and pick & choose on Utube to get alternative views and a wider spectrum such as this excellent conversation. Much appreciated.
Wonderful intelligent discourse. SO refreshing, and not a HINT of "ad hominem" nonsense.
We need more thoughtful conversations like this. I would like to hear some counterpoints so I will look for conversations between Mr. Kisin and someone with a different perspective. It's unfortunate that conversations between people with differing opinions have to be framed as "debates." I think we need more conversations.
Such a great interview, one of the best I've seen, thank you both.
Watching this in 2021 and the observations in this interview are all the more relevant now than they were at the time of filming.
Excellent discussion. I was a Labour member under Jeremy Corbyn, but have since given that up. Now I find myself agreeing more and more with "right wing" commentators. Anyone who will defend our civil liberties right now. I didn't realise the Commies were *actually* coming (!) Free speech is dead. Help!
Can I just ask genuinely, what took you so long to see it? I find it fascinating how anyone can support anything on the left at all any more.
I have a mate who is a hardline labour supporter, calls me a bootlicker, says the identity politics is only a fringe problem in the left.. whilst simultaneously says at membership meetings he can't mention controlling immigration without being ostracized.. he refuses to see how toxic they are.
It's definitely a cult, I personally won't ever vote for a left wing party again, not for decades at least.
@@AdamHowesPlastering Because I believe in Social Housing & Socialised healthcare (along side a private market) Socialism is what rebuilt Britain after WW2. If you look at the Scandinavian countries, they have a healthy mix of free markets & Socialised security (using insurance programs). I still believe in human rights being accessible to all. I have never, ever considered myself liberal. Identity politics are vile. However, I've only recently realised that Globalist Communists have highjacked the left in Britain and now Kier Starmer, a Trilateralist Globalist is in charge of Labour, never thought I'd say this, but I'd take Boris Johnson and conservatives over the Globalists any day!! Now I don't have a political home. Jeremy Corbyn has a good heart and good intentions. Unfortunately, he was surrounded by dubious advisors.. His Brother has been warning us all against the Globalists. Jeremy Corbyn isn't an enemy of the people, the bankers & Globalists are. Having said that, I don't see any voices on the left calling out this Corona BS. Absolutely nothing is more important than out civil liberties. Maybe it's the Irish in me, but my family know full well the dangers of Martial Law.
@@sinnyozzy I see your point, but Nordic countries cannot be taken as an example. Their culture is just too different. Their level of honesty is extremist 😃 if one can say so.
And please remember that lots of things that Labour wants to nationalize are privatized in Nordic countries (postal services, trains).
I lived in Nordic Countries for 6 years. A wonderful place, but do not think that their social model will work anywhere else except there and in South Korea or Japan. It works when you have an insane degree of honesty and work spirit running in the genes of your culture. Otherwise: you will enjoy a few decades of socialism and then you will go bankrupt.
Very interesting & revealing conversation. Quite a few angles on modern social and cultural norms I'd never really though of. Keep the good work up!
Thanks for a great interview 👍
A inmensibly thoughtful interview! Thank you to you both gentleman! And cheers from those who still value sanity, here in Brisbane Australia
This interview is so rich that I need to see it for a second time. Well done.
amazing conversation. Great minds and insights.
A really first class discussion - hats off to you both.
Great episode, thank you both so very much!
A gem of an interview. Very nice topic of conversation. Intelligent discussion. 👏👏👏
Very interesting conversation, keep up the good work!
Great interview guys shame this isn’t on prime time TV
This is the best education ever ! The art of intelligent discussion. Great insights and hope here.
Oh, John, I just love you. And I certainly agree with you about loving wit and not humor that degrades (among many other things). 🙏🏼
Great conversation. As always on this channel.
Great interview 👏🏻
42:03 The show back in Russia from the 90's Konstantin is talking about was called "Kykly" ("Куклы", EN puppets, or dolls). The author is Viktor Shenderovich. He is pretty active on UA-cam, there are many clips from the show, including full episodes. Some of them have aged very well for current times 25 years later.
Great discussion - we need more of this - sensible discussion.
Great talk! I'm a fan of Konstantin!
Beautiful and heart-warming interview - thanks for doing this you both!
So glad I found this video. Brilliant!
Really interesting discussion .. lots of things to consider and think about ... thank you for this
Great chat. Never thought about the link between lack of affordable housing & increased socialist feeling among younger people.
Low expectations kills all sense of ability & ambition & the time is ripe for conspiracy theories
John Anderson should be the head of the UN lots of world issues would be solved wisely with integrity and commonsense, what a extraordinary intelligent man and a great interviewer
Christopher hitchens would be very impressed. First time watching and listening to this man so thanking his mum and dad very much is a must
Thanks.
its great to here Konstantin's point of view on the culture war, i didn't realize he was so pessimistic about the future
He is a gatekeeper trying to seed hopelessness among the true resistance
It is such a shame that this approach can not be adopted by the media esp the BBC because it is fair and balanced but the world is being drained of this by the G S types of this world
Thanks John and Konstantin, thought provoking interview
Great interview. Thanks for sharing!