A great video. Your running commentary adds interest and a good degree of humor. As always thank you for the video and providing me with another bit of knowledge.
Excellent video with the first cup of coffee. 'Don't drill into the parallels - don't ask me how I know' - Lyle, the only person who has never made a mistake is the one who has never done anything trying to learn a new skill. A nice project would be building a fixture for the cross hole drilling, copying parts of the Heinrich tooling. Easy for me to give you more work. LOL
Because I own a rotary table and Spindexer, I would never build this item, but I am greatly enjoying this series. I always learn something from Mr. Pete's videos.
Hey, I have that and a dividing head. I'm thinking of building one for the fun of it! Getting tired of rebuilding worn out machinery, need something else to do. 😁
I could stand and watch you work all day long. I bought an old Atas lathe years ago in hopes my dad would show me how to operate it but no such luck however he did use it on occasion now after 22 years I am selling it to a much younger guy. thankyou for sharing all your knowledge I have enjoyed watching you make things.
I had to make a note on where to find this again. Memory like a sieve, all I could remember was it was a tip for all the other poor students like me. Definitely worth it's own short just so it's indexed!
For best results... Watch another Mr. Pete video! Accept no substitute. Love that Starrett bench block, one of a myriad of tools I have yet to find at a garage sale or at auction. As always, very enjoyable Sir. I really like your machining content and eagerly await the remaining videos of this series. Believe it or not some of us actually DO make the thing. 😂
I think you right, I'll probably never make one of these tools, but I really enjoy the great instructional videos. Keep up the good work. And don't slow down as far as age goes cause I'll catch up with you. Lol.
Great outcome Lyle. In case you don’t know the Diamond tool holder is made in Australia. A 3/8 “ one costs 90 USD plus shipping. Regards from Australia.
I recently picked up some unused American made thread dies, some used drill bits (a friend has a very expensive bit sharpener that is NOT a drill doctor), and some domestic made jobber (short) wrenches. Some people/companies are so wasteful. This scrap was from a well known food manufacturer. Apparently drill bits in boxes are something that's not worth sharpening anymore.
As a teacher myself in my 31st year on the job, I so deeply appreciate your way of teaching. I've been watching you for years now, and I finally got hold of my first lathe! It's an old Atlas, and you're going to be my go-to resource. Can't thank you enough!
This is starting to look really, *very* professional Mr. Pete! It is almost like building an Airfix model when the sub-assembles and wings go on the thing suddenly becomes an aeroplane instead of a collection of plastic bits! I know what you mean in regards the knob... Luckily that is something you can address out of sequence with the whole if you find something more aesthetically pleasing--or decide to fabricate one from scratch. Looking forward to entries 4-6!!!
Good morning Mr. Pete! Heinrich is still in business as of 2021. I had to purchase an adaptor liner for my Heinrich 305 crosshole jig a couple years ago and contacted them. They do not sell direct to the public-they directed me to MSC Industrial. MSC is a great company, however they are pricey on some things. I purchased my crosshole jig on eBay for a reasonable price and have used it extensively on many projects involving crossholes. Using layout lines and the DRO is what Quinn calls a sanity check. As a QA Manager in my day job, I have many sanity checks as mistakes can be costly. Besides not everyone has a DRO and have to usr layout lines. Woody
Another great Mr. Pete video! * Clever use of lathe for tapping be putting the work in the tailstock and the tool (die) in the chuck. It also gives me a reason to use my hex dies, which I always regard as inferior to round dies. They have the look of tooling made for the hardware store. * Love the self centering cross hole drilling jig. I will start looking for one. * I passed on a SB lathe, because it was over priced and an out-of-town trip demanded that I postpone inspecting it. It sold while I was on the trip. That was sad especially since in the included tooling assortment was the coveted Starrett bench block. I still don't own a SB lathe or the much desired bench block. * Your "second third" segment comment made me chuckle. It reminded me of the beloved Click and Clack radio broadcasts. They were joking that they hadn't resolved their desire to lengthen their broadcast time slot. Their solution was to divide their show into thirds moving from two segments to three. They called the new last segment "The third half". They maintained that joke until the end of that show after Tommy died. I have often copied that joke in my own teasing. There are many third halves in my life now.
Great comment, thank you. Yes, find yourself a drilling jig. They are kind of rare. In fact I never see them and way too costly brand new. Also, you never see those bench blocks. Good luck on finding a southbend and I agree with you on the hex dyes they always look cheap hanging at the box door on a hook, but I like the fact that you can hold them in a three Jaw
@@mrpete222 In a past life I sold tools to mechanics as a Snap-On , Mac and lastly Matco tool dealer. The dies sold to mechanics are usually either hex or 12 point (Snap-On) because they can use a socket or wrench to thread in tight inaccessible places. The Snap-On dies were not only 12 point but were also adjustable. All were of high quality although some were HSS and some carbon steel, depending upon how much the mechanic had to spend on a set. I never saw any manufactured as poorly (off centered) as the one you used in the video, but all this was back during the mid 1970's to about 1980 when I left the business. At the time all were made by Hanson Ace in the USA.
Only an extremely impatient person would ever complain that you show multiple ways of doing things. Imagine being upset that you got to learn something new!? *high voice: “Thank you Mr. Pete”
Hi Mr Pete great tool build cant wait to see it in action . It probable less work to copy a gear than with a indexing head . keep up the good work . JM
I second your thought of loosing the big plastic knob. It doesn't live 'aesthetically' in harmony with the fixture. BTW eBay has a Heinrich 605-1 for sale ...$279.98. Too rich for me. I'd have to go for a shop made fixture. Wakodahatchee Chris
You could turn the angle block to the 60 degree angle and reference on the solid side of the block. You would get a more solid feel before closing the mill vise.
gotta laugh! cutting threads with a hex die. I have been doing it for years. Every one says you need round dies? I bought several sets of hex dies many years ago when I started out. They just made more sense. Hex die will not slip in holder, Can use a wrench on then in tight spots, ect. please keep these video's coming
As I continue to watch this series I am thinking about how to modify this fixture so it can generate gears on a shaper. Perhaps that could be a follow on project for you. Thanks always for the great videos.
@@AntonJonssonMEK For very small gears a form tool might be OK. There are a few good reasons to not depend upon a form tool. 1) Most shapers have no automatic down feed but they do have an automatic cross feed. Using a form tool one has to hand feed down to the correct depth for every gear tooth. 2) Grinding an accurate form tool, while not impossible, is difficult, particularly if you don't have a gear to use as a pattern. When generating gears with a 14.5 degree PA, for example, a tool bit can be ground using an Acme screw gauge and it will accurately generate any gear regardless of DP. For a 20 degree PA a simple protractor can be used to make a gauge to guide tool grinding. The only difference is the width of the tip of the tool. 3) When cutting larger gears with a form tool as the cut deepens in the gear tooth space the load on the tool increases causing chatter and increased load on the machine and tool bit. On very large shapers this may not be as important as it is on smaller home shop sized machines. One can get around this by worrying out some of the material with gashing cuts using a parting blade or band sawing out waste material or cutting from various angles on each tooth until little material is left to remove and then using the form tool as a finishing tool but this all takes a lot of time on each tooth. Generating gears on a shaper requires only one setup of the blank and indexing for each additional tooth. As the shaper table moves the tool takes a small chip and progressively generates the tooth shape.
Hi Mr. Pete. The parts look great and got lots of tips from the video. Especially using the roll pin. It didn't occur to me to use one in that manner. Any ideas on where we can locate the CS version of the drawing? As always, thanks for sharing and being such a great shop teacher to us tyros. Joe
I am building one and I guess lots of people will do the same as their budgets don't go as far as a Milling machine also Give yourself credit as it certainly helps those who are just beginning the Metal Machining episode in their lives. Mine will be different to see if possible to make different-sized gears in a planetary setup to achieve what I need on a larger gear as my old, old Metal lathe is a train wreck needing a pile of money thrown at it. Gears are a start! Also, I have a gear missing, which is the biggest one in the set. My budget is a little less as I do many other hobbies and therefore I can indulge in something like this when time permits. However, saying this all my hobbies require a lathe at least that can turn a bit of steel and on occasion do a little milling, etc.
The great thing about this is that one could adapt the sizes for any size milling attachment one may have. One could also make this without a mill by using the milling adapter. (Now would that have been something if you used the milling adapter in this series)
Hey Mr Pete! What purpose do the 30 degree angles serve? When I built mine I don't think my drawing had them or I left them off because I didn't see the need and didn't have a mill at the time. My indexing pin came to a point as well but I think the bladed type like in your drawing is probably better. Great videos as always!
LOL Anybody drilling holes on a mill will eventualy will learn why you don't drill into the parallels. GUARENTEED THAT ONE DAY YOU WILL BE DRILLING SO CLOSE THAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULD CLEAR. BUT, NOOOO.
The drill press vise at my workplace is like swiss cheese. you crack me up with that but Mr. Pete voice
There's that alter ego high pitched voice again! Love it.
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Re-watching the series to refresh my old memory, and because I enjoy your videos. Entertaining education.
A great video. Your running commentary adds interest and a good degree of humor. As always thank you for the video and providing me with another bit of knowledge.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you Mr Pete.
Nice work. Have a great weekend.
Excellent video with the first cup of coffee. 'Don't drill into the parallels - don't ask me how I know' - Lyle, the only person who has never made a mistake is the one who has never done anything trying to learn a new skill. A nice project would be building a fixture for the cross hole drilling, copying parts of the Heinrich tooling. Easy for me to give you more work. LOL
Glad you enjoyed it
That would be an interesting project!
Because I own a rotary table and Spindexer, I would never build this item, but I am greatly enjoying this series. I always learn something from Mr. Pete's videos.
Hey, I have that and a dividing head. I'm thinking of building one for the fun of it! Getting tired of rebuilding worn out machinery, need something else to do. 😁
The project might not be for me ... but the techniques always are.
Enjoying this series.
I could stand and watch you work all day long. I bought an old Atas lathe years ago in hopes my dad would show me how to operate it but no such luck however he did use it on occasion now after 22 years I am selling it to a much younger guy. thankyou for sharing all your knowledge I have enjoyed watching you make things.
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I'm loving this build series. Hope to see a gear cut with it after you complete the build. Thanks Mr Pete 👍🇺🇸
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Love it. Mr. Pete
I pick up so many good tips from your videos by you showing multiple ways of doing different operations. Great content as always.
Thanks 👍
Great video as always.💪 Nobody's made all the mistakes but the older you get the closer you get to success.😁
Nice drill jig. Good explanation of tool maker’s decisions too.
Great video!!!! Always like your modifications!!
Your falsetto reminds me of Little Johnny of Taryl Fixes All LOL.
Regards,
Duck
HAHAHAHAHAAHA...
Mr Pete, that cross hole drill jig is pretty snappy and not terribly complicated. Maybe you could consider making one as a project in the future.
I had to make a note on where to find this again. Memory like a sieve, all I could remember was it was a tip for all the other poor students like me. Definitely worth it's own short just so it's indexed!
Thanks again
For best results... Watch another Mr. Pete video! Accept no substitute.
Love that Starrett bench block, one of a myriad of tools I have yet to find at a garage sale or at auction.
As always, very enjoyable Sir. I really like your machining content and eagerly await the remaining videos of this series. Believe it or not some of us actually DO make the thing. 😂
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@C, try to Google it/search UA-cam for a video I beleive I have seen a video of someone making one.
I think you right, I'll probably never make one of these tools, but I really enjoy the great instructional videos. Keep up the good work. And don't slow down as far as age goes cause I'll catch up with you. Lol.
Thanks Mr. Pete ! Awesome as usual 👍
First video tonight and I watched it twice, too little sleep last night. I am enjoying this very much.
Great to hear!
Love watch chips fly, always learn something.
Great outcome Lyle. In case you don’t know the Diamond tool holder is made in Australia. A 3/8 “ one costs 90 USD plus shipping. Regards from Australia.
I bought mine almost 20 years ago and love it. Them Eccentric fellas are OK in my book.
There is nothing better than Mr. Pete making chips. I learn a lot. Thanks, Mr. Pete.
A cup of Joe and a Pete video, life is good.
Great video Mr. Pete. Really like your project videos best.
Thanks 👍
Delightful presentation.
Many thanks!
Hitting the parallel makes some nice sparks fly!
I recently picked up some unused American made thread dies, some used drill bits (a friend has a very expensive bit sharpener that is NOT a drill doctor), and some domestic made jobber (short) wrenches. Some people/companies are so wasteful. This scrap was from a well known food manufacturer. Apparently drill bits in boxes are something that's not worth sharpening anymore.
Mr Pete's level of "incompetence" is still far above most people's level of competence! 🤣
lol
As a teacher myself in my 31st year on the job, I so deeply appreciate your way of teaching. I've been watching you for years now, and I finally got hold of my first lathe! It's an old Atlas, and you're going to be my go-to resource. Can't thank you enough!
Thank you, it’s always good to hear from a teacher. Good luck with your new machine.
Enjoying this series MrPete. Keep those chips flying.
Nice Mr Pete.
This is starting to look really, *very* professional Mr. Pete! It is almost like building an Airfix model when the sub-assembles and wings go on the thing suddenly becomes an aeroplane instead of a collection of plastic bits! I know what you mean in regards the knob... Luckily that is something you can address out of sequence with the whole if you find something more aesthetically pleasing--or decide to fabricate one from scratch.
Looking forward to entries 4-6!!!
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Good morning Mr. Pete!
Heinrich is still in business as of 2021. I had to purchase an adaptor liner for my Heinrich 305 crosshole jig a couple years ago and contacted them. They do not sell direct to the public-they directed me to MSC Industrial. MSC is a great company, however they are pricey on some things.
I purchased my crosshole jig on eBay for a reasonable price and have used it extensively on many projects involving crossholes.
Using layout lines and the DRO is what Quinn calls a sanity check. As a QA Manager in my day job, I have many sanity checks as mistakes can be costly. Besides not everyone has a DRO and have to usr layout lines.
Woody
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Fine job Mr. Pete
Another great Mr. Pete video!
* Clever use of lathe for tapping be putting the work in the tailstock and the tool (die) in the chuck. It also gives me a reason to use my hex dies, which I always regard as inferior to round dies. They have the look of tooling made for the hardware store.
* Love the self centering cross hole drilling jig. I will start looking for one.
* I passed on a SB lathe, because it was over priced and an out-of-town trip demanded that I postpone inspecting it. It sold while I was on the trip. That was sad especially since in the included tooling assortment was the coveted Starrett bench block. I still don't own a SB lathe or the much desired bench block.
* Your "second third" segment comment made me chuckle. It reminded me of the beloved Click and Clack radio broadcasts. They were joking that they hadn't resolved their desire to lengthen their broadcast time slot. Their solution was to divide their show into thirds moving from two segments to three. They called the new last segment "The third half". They maintained that joke until the end of that show after Tommy died. I have often copied that joke in my own teasing. There are many third halves in my life now.
Great comment, thank you. Yes, find yourself a drilling jig. They are kind of rare. In fact I never see them and way too costly brand new. Also, you never see those bench blocks. Good luck on finding a southbend and I agree with you on the hex dyes they always look cheap hanging at the box door on a hook, but I like the fact that you can hold them in a three Jaw
@@mrpete222 In a past life I sold tools to mechanics as a Snap-On , Mac and lastly Matco tool dealer. The dies sold to mechanics are usually either hex or 12 point (Snap-On) because they can use a socket or wrench to thread in tight inaccessible places. The Snap-On dies were not only 12 point but were also adjustable. All were of high quality although some were HSS and some carbon steel, depending upon how much the mechanic had to spend on a set. I never saw any manufactured as poorly (off centered) as the one you used in the video, but all this was back during the mid 1970's to about 1980 when I left the business. At the time all were made by Hanson Ace in the USA.
Only an extremely impatient person would ever complain that you show multiple ways of doing things. Imagine being upset that you got to learn something new!?
*high voice:
“Thank you Mr. Pete”
lol
Great video Lyle.The way you thread in the lathe and feeding by hand is something I need to learn.Thank you.
Great series. We shared this video (and the previous parts) on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
Awesome! Thank you!
I agree, I think changing that big clunky knob will enhance the looks.
Thanks for the video keep on keeping on.
Great build, can't wait to see it in action cutting a gear.
Battery drills in MrPetes videos? Times have changed since I started watching, and learning from, you. Good series Lyle.
Thanks for sharing Mr Pete👍🗿
Well executed, thanks for sharing your experiences with us🤗😎🤗😎
10:54 quote "Ask me how I know ?" end quote.
Okay Mr. Bubba, how do you know ? 😂
John 🇨🇦
Thanks MrPete
MrPete, how is your health going? Praying for you, brother.
Not too well lately. Please pray for me.
@@mrpete222 you’ve got it. Will be remembering you in prayer.
Lyle, @ 0:51, you're not repeating, you spent half your life as a High School teacher, you are Mr. Peteing... ;)
17:45 I looked that up it's also called a 'tangential' holder in addition to 'diamond tool'.
Hi Mr Pete great tool build cant wait to see it in action . It probable less work to copy a gear than with a indexing head . keep up the good work . JM
Good morning
I second your thought of loosing the big plastic knob. It doesn't live 'aesthetically' in harmony with the fixture. BTW eBay has a Heinrich 605-1 for sale ...$279.98. Too rich for me. I'd have to go for a shop made fixture.
Wakodahatchee Chris
Pete love your training video,s
Thanks 👍
Nice show. I'm suppose the tongue is recessed so the lock down tool can slide and have a space to pull into.
You could turn the angle block to the 60 degree angle and reference on the solid side of the block. You would get a more solid feel before closing the mill vise.
Looking great!
Yeah, but careful for that non-seated, shaky parallel to get in the way of your drill bit...ask me how I know.
Awesome job well done thks enjoying it immensely thk u
Glad you enjoyed it
Enjoying this series of videos, The split pin we called them cellock pins, if I spelled that right?👍🇬🇧.
Nice Lyle i enjoy your videos all though ive not got a lathe any more
and that inaccurately made die needs throwing 🤣🤣🤣
cheers Mrpete
gotta laugh! cutting threads with a hex die. I have been doing it for years. Every one says you need round dies? I bought several sets of hex dies many years ago when I started out. They just made more sense. Hex die will not slip in holder, Can use a wrench on then in tight spots, ect. please keep these video's coming
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As I continue to watch this series I am thinking about how to modify this fixture so it can generate gears on a shaper. Perhaps that could be a follow on project for you. Thanks always for the great videos.
Why not just use a dividing head and a form tool on the shaper?
@@AntonJonssonMEK For very small gears a form tool might be OK. There are a few good reasons to not depend upon a form tool. 1) Most shapers have no automatic down feed but they do have an automatic cross feed. Using a form tool one has to hand feed down to the correct depth for every gear tooth. 2) Grinding an accurate form tool, while not impossible, is difficult, particularly if you don't have a gear to use as a pattern. When generating gears with a 14.5 degree PA, for example, a tool bit can be ground using an Acme screw gauge and it will accurately generate any gear regardless of DP. For a 20 degree PA a simple protractor can be used to make a gauge to guide tool grinding. The only difference is the width of the tip of the tool. 3) When cutting larger gears with a form tool as the cut deepens in the gear tooth space the load on the tool increases causing chatter and increased load on the machine and tool bit. On very large shapers this may not be as important as it is on smaller home shop sized machines. One can get around this by worrying out some of the material with gashing cuts using a parting blade or band sawing out waste material or cutting from various angles on each tooth until little material is left to remove and then using the form tool as a finishing tool but this all takes a lot of time on each tooth. Generating gears on a shaper requires only one setup of the blank and indexing for each additional tooth. As the shaper table moves the tool takes a small chip and progressively generates the tooth shape.
Hi Mr. Pete. The parts look great and got lots of tips from the video. Especially using the roll pin. It didn't occur to me to use one in that manner. Any ideas on where we can locate the CS version of the drawing? As always, thanks for sharing and being such a great shop teacher to us tyros.
Joe
I still intend to send the Cs drawing to you
Your not incompetent your just human
At 11:00 No teacher has EVER drilled into his parallels or his table vise. It was always one (or more) of his students.
That’s true. Sometimes I would take my parallels to the school and let the kids use them if they needed a special size.
Thanks for sharing
I am building one and I guess lots of people will do the same as their budgets don't go as far as a Milling machine also Give yourself credit as it certainly helps those who are just beginning the Metal Machining episode in their lives.
Mine will be different to see if possible to make different-sized gears in a planetary setup to achieve what I need on a larger gear as my old, old Metal lathe is a train wreck needing a pile of money thrown at it. Gears are a start! Also, I have a gear missing, which is the biggest one in the set.
My budget is a little less as I do many other hobbies and therefore I can indulge in something like this when time permits. However, saying this all my hobbies require a lathe at least that can turn a bit of steel and on occasion do a little milling, etc.
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The great thing about this is that one could adapt the sizes for any size milling attachment one may have. One could also make this without a mill by using the milling adapter. (Now would that have been something if you used the milling adapter in this series)
Believe it or not, I considered doing that
Love it !!!
you should do a video how to make one of those diamond tool holders
Hey Mr Pete! What purpose do the 30 degree angles serve? When I built mine I don't think my drawing had them or I left them off because I didn't see the need and didn't have a mill at the time. My indexing pin came to a point as well but I think the bladed type like in your drawing is probably better. Great videos as always!
See you on part 4,,,got go to work, light bill due,,hehe! Give my love to Jeanette from old Bear. Iam ready from Spring, YOU?
Yes, it’s pretty cold this morning
How do you know?
thank yiou
Sorry Mr Peterson I'll take an F for todays Class.. I fell asleep...
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Thanks Lyle...
Mike M.
You've wrecked a few I take it.
Mr. Pete, Are you sure that you will be seeing ME in your next video?
Then, maybe I will see you on the radio
It looks like a AR-15 brace
I am disappointed Lyle.
I am dieing to know how you would knurl that conical knob and you have chickened out.
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Looking great!
Incompetent, lol, hardly.
LOL Anybody drilling holes on a mill will eventualy will learn why you don't drill into the parallels. GUARENTEED THAT ONE DAY YOU WILL BE DRILLING SO CLOSE THAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULD CLEAR. BUT, NOOOO.
Yes
Nicely done!
Out of the hundreds of Starrett and B&S height gages you have, why use the chinesium one?
I like to show many possibilities. No one can afford the good ones.
Good point!!!
It looks awesome. Eww shinny. 🔩🔧⚒