U where standing further away from the turrets with the pachy... thats why u couldn't get shot by higher turrets. The player wasn't in line of sight bcuz of that
The reason the pachy couldn't take the higher tek turrets was because it was lower in the ground/down hill compared to the trike. So the trike was more leveled with the turrets causing the higher up turrets to meet with the trikes hood
A bit of advice, check your armor dura to see if you are actually getting hit (survivor) and also test walking up to turrets. Trike you will get shot off much more easily while the trike is moving rather than stationary. Also, next time test on the same surfaces with each Dino. Your results are going to be weird if they are at different angles/positions in front of the tower
Suggestion for this test: try placing foundations down so that the 2 dinos are level, in some of the tests the dinos are clearly at different heights which kindof skews the test. but otherwise great work
If you're defending with turrets, what distance should the turrets be placed at for maximum damage against a trike/pachy hood taking into consideration the angle trajectory? Or should turret towers have a mixed distance to wreck them?
You should test Morellatops. I have been breeding them out with high HP rolls. Back them up to a turret and the hump blocks you from being shot off. They are very fast, mobile, and only take 1 day to raise.
If the whip is on ur hand, look up and go in orbit mode, your laying on ur back on the trike or pachy and the the creature is looking up for max protection.
nick!!!!! what happens if the trike gets its new buff? its said it was similar to mate boost. Just cage a wild large carnivore close to it and you should see the effect on its head. Plus mate boost, plus decent saddle, plus the reduction, i think the trike would take a lot less (in comparison) damage
Easily achievable on a solo raid: just hit the wall with the bigger dinos with your trike. Remember you don't always need to soak turret towers to raid someone, there's always a weak spot even on the toughest bases.
Since the turrets are on Survivors Only, you unmount the trike, crawl under its armoured face and the turrets will only hit the dino even on 9high wall. Since you're off the dino, it'll look up to you giving even more enclosure on your character. If for some reason you stay away from turret range by that, get a whip and hit the dino, it'll move on the direction you're whiping. A reliable comparison would be primitive saddle for both dinos and check the dmg taken from 25+ HEAVY turrets, since small turrets only newbs use them and FPS cap makes it that only 25 turrets can shoot at the same time on any crowded server or big raid, even if you hit the 100 turret cap, only 25 turret instances can shoot at the same tick server-side, so better to have 25 heavies than 25 smallers, tek turrets can be outrun so they're not reliable on fast targets.
basically from what i’m seeing - the pachy has more coverage because you sit closer to the hood and the hood goes farther back. the trike has you sit farther back, meaning higher bullet turrets will start clipping you. the tek turrets are probably skill hitting the pachys face but since you are sitting closer the splash is hitting you. so bullet turrets - pachy. cuz hood. tek turrets - trike. cuz splash.
Nice video buddy but your science part is all incorrect, you should have them at the same distance and floor height, wich was not the case, The angle is directly proportional to the distance from the turret and with the Tek turrets for example, the Pachy was on lower ground too so that might be why it hits .. next time try doing the test on flat foundations and stay exactly the same distance with all dinos ;)
while yes your right, but the distance in hieght of dino compared to how high before it hit them were way diffrent, not 1 floor difference but like 6 to 7 floors
the flaw on this one is you need to test at max range of the turret, and also it really really matters where you're looking. You need to look down for the "wall" of the head to cover you. The terrain must also be PERFECTLY flat to properly test this.
Very informative video! I've been looking over old vids trying to find one explaining how you guys farm up enough sap to make veggie cakes for your achatina farms. Is it just brute force because the tribe is so large, or do you have a trick to efficient gathering?
you should just use lv 1 trike and pachy and primative saddle. that would give you raw results which is tanking better. how much health they are exactly losing per shot and how many shots they took.
First time I’ve caught one of your ark science vids and it’s really useful and impressive. Have already forwarded it to a mate and we’re now looking at changing taming strategy because of it. Will be checking out your other science ones too. Loving the 2 guys 1 base series too by the way, super fun AND informative which is hard to do. Keep up the outstanding work.
It will be harder to get a 70 armor trike saddle than a 70 armor pachy saddle, it's not really a fair comparison because the trike starts at 20 armor and pachy 25
They used to but they nerfed some saddles like the Rock golem, Carbonemys, Trike and Stego (Might have missed one) They start at 20 and go up to 188 max and normal saddles go to 25 and have a max of 355, test it yourself if you don't believe me
Only suggestion to finalize your testing would be to get a little closer to the turrets for the trajectory test, otherwise excellent testing! I was expecting the trike to be the winner, but glad to see that they each have raid potential and pretty equal, yet basically opposite strengths/weaknesses.
Its already been said that the terrain is uneven and you didnt stay consistent with the tests so im not gunna focus on that. Instead i wanted to point out that you only tested it with single turrets straight up. A real turret tower isnt going to just be straight up so you didnt check the width coverage to see how much it actually protects you from say a hatchframe tower.
Sorry I was at school but I came back just in time for the video, 289th view, 35th like and 15th comment love u nick keep up the good work and have a great day ❤❤😃😃😁😊💯😆
He does check his comments for sure. I have commented in many 7 days to die videos and most of them received one of those special Nick likes and/or comments of him. Also a few times to when I mentioned to someone asking that his specs are on his about page. So definatly checks comments.
yo i 'am a resent sub yawl should start a knew series were yawl are on privet pvp server were yawl have 1 hour to make armor tame dinos and craft weapons and then when times up yawl fight
U where standing further away from the turrets with the pachy... thats why u couldn't get shot by higher turrets. The player wasn't in line of sight bcuz of that
To fully test this u should have used the same distance every time
Also, when u where testing with the tek turrets the trike was standing further up a hill... this influenced the results
that is what i was thinking lol
If they would have just put down a foundation marking where they wanted to stand.
Maybe the trike's charge attack can be used to juggernaught a turret tower.
The reason the pachy couldn't take the higher tek turrets was because it was lower in the ground/down hill compared to the trike. So the trike was more leveled with the turrets causing the higher up turrets to meet with the trikes hood
A bit of advice, check your armor dura to see if you are actually getting hit (survivor) and also test walking up to turrets. Trike you will get shot off much more easily while the trike is moving rather than stationary. Also, next time test on the same surfaces with each Dino. Your results are going to be weird if they are at different angles/positions in front of the tower
next time stand on foundation so you have a controlled distance\height
the hood of the trike is larger but the saddle on the pachy is closer to the hood, hence what we just saw
Suggestion for this test: try placing foundations down so that the 2 dinos are level, in some of the tests the dinos are clearly at different heights which kindof skews the test. but otherwise great work
0:38 watch the background by the Ob! LOLOLOL Love these vids
Look up you get more cover with the hood
If you're defending with turrets, what distance should the turrets be placed at for maximum damage against a trike/pachy hood taking into consideration the angle trajectory? Or should turret towers have a mixed distance to wreck them?
It all depends on were the tames are standing
You should test Morellatops. I have been breeding them out with high HP rolls. Back them up to a turret and the hump blocks you from being shot off. They are very fast, mobile, and only take 1 day to raise.
The vids are amazing helpful and also entertaining keep up the good work 👍
What about pixark
If the whip is on ur hand, look up and go in orbit mode, your laying on ur back on the trike or pachy and the the creature is looking up for max protection.
nick!!!!! what happens if the trike gets its new buff? its said it was similar to mate boost. Just cage a wild large carnivore close to it and you should see the effect on its head. Plus mate boost, plus decent saddle, plus the reduction, i think the trike would take a lot less (in comparison) damage
Gavin Libby get an Ally to stand close by on a Reaper, break the Alliance during the raid to utilize that buff.
Easily achievable on a solo raid: just hit the wall with the bigger dinos with your trike. Remember you don't always need to soak turret towers to raid someone, there's always a weak spot even on the toughest bases.
Since the turrets are on Survivors Only, you unmount the trike, crawl under its armoured face and the turrets will only hit the dino even on 9high wall. Since you're off the dino, it'll look up to you giving even more enclosure on your character. If for some reason you stay away from turret range by that, get a whip and hit the dino, it'll move on the direction you're whiping.
A reliable comparison would be primitive saddle for both dinos and check the dmg taken from 25+ HEAVY turrets, since small turrets only newbs use them and FPS cap makes it that only 25 turrets can shoot at the same time on any crowded server or big raid, even if you hit the 100 turret cap, only 25 turret instances can shoot at the same tick server-side, so better to have 25 heavies than 25 smallers, tek turrets can be outrun so they're not reliable on fast targets.
basically from what i’m seeing - the pachy has more coverage because you sit closer to the hood and the hood goes farther back.
the trike has you sit farther back, meaning higher bullet turrets will start clipping you.
the tek turrets are probably skill hitting the pachys face but since you are sitting closer the splash is hitting you.
so bullet turrets - pachy. cuz hood.
tek turrets - trike. cuz splash.
As a little tip, i suggest you look up so that the trike lifts its head upwards and the player will not take any damage! :)
What was the stego nerf
i heard somewhere that turrets only shot rockets if the turrets are set on all targets is this true or no?
CorruptedWolf false
Nice video buddy but your science part is all incorrect, you should have them at the same distance and floor height, wich was not the case, The angle is directly proportional to the distance from the turret and with the Tek turrets for example, the Pachy was on lower ground too so that might be why it hits .. next time try doing the test on flat foundations and stay exactly the same distance with all dinos ;)
while yes your right, but the distance in hieght of dino compared to how high before it hit them were way diffrent, not 1 floor difference but like 6 to 7 floors
the flaw on this one is you need to test at max range of the turret, and also it really really matters where you're looking. You need to look down for the "wall" of the head to cover you. The terrain must also be PERFECTLY flat to properly test this.
Your angles and ranges were different from the pachy and trike first test
Very informative video! I've been looking over old vids trying to find one explaining how you guys farm up enough sap to make veggie cakes for your achatina farms. Is it just brute force because the tribe is so large, or do you have a trick to efficient gathering?
What tanks tek turrets the best please answer
Were you close enough with the pachy on the initial trajectory test?
Why you dont try with acs saddles??
Also look up to the sky while on trike might stop you from getting shot
You also gotta think that the pachy was more distant to the tower the trike was closer than the pachy
Havent played ARK in awhile do trikes still tank?
What happened to the stego?? What nerf did he get??
there is a way to play on thath server ? :/
What is better stego or pachy?
btw idk if it matters but when u test the tek turrets u stand higher up then the pachy
Congrats for the engagement my dude I’m happy for u hope the best for you guys😁😁
you should just use lv 1 trike and pachy and primative saddle. that would give you raw results which is tanking better. how much health they are exactly losing per shot and how many shots they took.
You should see how the new Agro range on the trike is compared to the camelsaurus. ❤️ your videos
For the tek test the trike was higher on the Hill. You need a flatter area to test it accurately
Can a mantis tank a turret? Can you make a video on that?
I got Guns of Glory ad and it was showing Age of Empires gameplay.....but Great video nick
Never don't watch your vids love them keep it up
Love this series,keep em commin =)
You should also have checked the wide of the hood, anyways nice video
So if u roll up shoulder to shoulder with these guys and eliminate body shots you could tank all day
What happened to blitzers
It’s the hill
That test is fucked up, you were closer with the trike than with the pachy, so the turrets could shoot the rider easily on the trike
Hey! i tweeted u guys, plz make a video about kangas, good or bad for pvp?
When you tested the trike you had it on a hill compared to the pachyrhino
You are doing Raptor Jesus's work and spreading the Ark knowledge.
The trikes head shield thing is called it’s fril
Frill not hood
more videos like this please so informative
You’re awesome nick keep up the amazing videos 😄😄
i heard morellatrops are good for tanking too.
damage 276 no saddle so no
Lmao who told you that
no trike it was more hire than Tek turrets
First time I’ve caught one of your ark science vids and it’s really useful and impressive. Have already forwarded it to a mate and we’re now looking at changing taming strategy because of it. Will be checking out your other science ones too. Loving the 2 guys 1 base series too by the way, super fun AND informative which is hard to do. Keep up the outstanding work.
Hay did you stop making future evolve.
It will be harder to get a 70 armor trike saddle than a 70 armor pachy saddle, it's not really a fair comparison because the trike starts at 20 armor and pachy 25
ᗰᗩᗪᗩ ᗰᗩᗪᗩ actually all saddles start at 25 armor.
They used to but they nerfed some saddles like the Rock golem, Carbonemys, Trike and Stego (Might have missed one) They start at 20 and go up to 188 max and normal saddles go to 25 and have a max of 355, test it yourself if you don't believe me
What happened to the stegos
F34R G4M1NG cabt place c4 off of back
Also stego’s I think are best for tek turrets
Hipfluck Ree trikes are amazing for tek turrets
great vid should definitely do more science evolved :)
Nice video but I didn’t get the notification when you uploaded this video
Very helpful!! Thanks
Stay awesome Nick!)
on the trike the saddle is further away from the hood
Can you do this again but use the trike skin
in mobile you cant tank a turret tower
wanna know why?
eerie turrets they have unlimited bullets and onlu bought by rich kids
You stand back we don’t tank that close
Only suggestion to finalize your testing would be to get a little closer to the turrets for the trajectory test, otherwise excellent testing! I was expecting the trike to be the winner, but glad to see that they each have raid potential and pretty equal, yet basically opposite strengths/weaknesses.
What if you add beer
Tall Tallinn tames cant drink beer
Its already been said that the terrain is uneven and you didnt stay consistent with the tests so im not gunna focus on that. Instead i wanted to point out that you only tested it with single turrets straight up. A real turret tower isnt going to just be straight up so you didnt check the width coverage to see how much it actually protects you from say a hatchframe tower.
Amazing video your a little later to trike and pachy meta 😃
You are standing on a higher terrain with the trike aswell
Pachyrhino has better saddles on official and trike saddles are capped
Sorry I was at school but I came back just in time for the video, 289th view, 35th like and 15th comment love u nick keep up the good work and have a great day ❤❤😃😃😁😊💯😆
Nice RAID😁
It would be awesome if you seen this!
He does check his comments for sure. I have commented in many 7 days to die videos and most of them received one of those special Nick likes and/or comments of him. Also a few times to when I mentioned to someone asking that his specs are on his about page. So definatly checks comments.
What about stegos!
First of all a trike is a starter dinosaur that you will get at level 10
Bug repellant for pachyrhinos is easier to get than kibble for trikes though
havent watched the vid yet but im sure the winner will be trike
Good video
Than because this was good proof unless someone proves you rong
Great vids
U should be at the edge of the turrets range
yo i 'am a resent sub yawl should start a knew series were yawl are on privet pvp server were yawl have 1 hour to make armor tame dinos and craft weapons and then when times up yawl fight
omg, stop saying *yawl*
It's annoying that ark buffs a Dino then everybody uses it so they buff it again then it's useless 😑
Nice attack bast
Look up with the trike
Pachyrino looks cooler. Nuff said.
You are doing it all wrong you are supposed to use a whip
none of these were done at the same range on flat ground for consistant measurements, pointless tests
Its pronounced packy not patchy its spelled pachy not patchy
Sorry but spinos are better now h hydro boost
To many walls for nick to remember lol
If u play on ps4 joining nerd p right away
Now I know😂😂
Obviously the patchy
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