Really nice to hear a review of the 4C's characteristics from someone who *already* owns a raw, unadulterated car like the Viper, and appreciates it for what it is. This was great insight into how the 4C compares to something with similar compromises but a different character. It's frustrating to hear people try to compare it with more GT-oriented cars like the Cayman, simply because they exist in the same price bracket.
The 4C is massive fun. You can fit simple and cheap mods to calm the 'from factory' track biased handling if you want, but it'll still be a reliable, nimble and quick kart for the road and track. What more could anyone want?
Nice review. I have a 4C, drove my friend’s Gen 5 ACR and it’s scary. I also have a 987.1 cayman S that’s been tweaked for track use, it weighs 3100 lbs with driver and fluids, corner balanced with lots of negative camber, bucket seats, harness, oil mods and cooling, tuned to 330 hp, and my Alfa is still more fun to drive and makes my cayman feel like a luxury sports car. You can really feel the weight even if it’s just around 550 plus pound difference. I always believe that it’s fun to drive a slow car fast.
After owning two of each I can attest these two are polar opposites. 4c is pretty, handles like on rails, very good and easy to drive on track. 4c in some ways is more fun on back roads because it's not as handful as Viper. Viper on the other hand is more masculine and I prefer the look over 4c. It is brutally fast and demands a lot of respect. It is scary to drive it at the limit. In ways that's why it is more fun. Long story short, I ended up keeping the Viper because it fits my personality more.
Thanks for this comparative review....just watching you drive both cars, the 4C definitely put more smiles on your face. (similarly, the same excitability with other testers who drive the 4C, including the grumpy guys)
I noticed this too. All smiles in the 4C. I'm sure I have some inbuilt bias as I love the 4C, but the Viper is a legend. That being said, the smiles sell the experience.
Thanks for this! I'm also in Virginia and I owned a S2000 (yellow '08), then a Viper (yellow '02), and am now considering buying a 4C. Not quite the same Viper as yours, but I sold mine because of some of what you mentioned here - it was too much for the street and that kept it from being as much fun as my S2000 had been. So now I want something fun like the S2000 but more exotic. You should do another video like this on which is more fun, the S2000 or the 4C.
I'm in the same boat minus the viper. I have a 405bhp s2k, and 23 ford tbucket custom. I started looking at the 4c to add to the fun car stable and have my first italian sports car thats also reliable on and off the track.
@@crossfirearcade8015 Try to drive one before you buy if you can. I bought a 4C Spider about a month after I posted my comment, but I returned it after 7 days (bought from Carvana). It just wasn't that much fun, IMO.
@@JesseOsbyI just saw your comment now. Never got notified. What did you not like about the 4c? Was it all stock as I'll do a stage 1 ecu map to give ut a little more pep.
Slower, lighter, fine tuned, cars are more fun because you can give them the full beans without ending up in jail or getting killed. That is why there is such an appeal to anything from a 130bhp 4 cylidner Mazda all the way up to a 340bhp 911 with the Elises and the 4Cs and the Caymans in between.
I have massive respect for a machine that can't be tamed and tries to kill you, meaning theViper. But the Alfa is really something special. Intersting that you chose to own two snakes on wheels (plus the honda lol). Cheerio!
I love your easy to watch video. This is my first time on the channel. I like that it doesn't tell me the exact same stats like every other video over and over again. Can you say more about why you don't find the Alfa steering wheel comfortable? Thank you!
@@TodayIWorkOn are the 4c body steel or aluminum? Can you by any chance try putting a magnet next to the fender or hood to know if it is aluminum or steel?
After 7 secons of listening, these are noncomperable cars built for differnet purposes !!!! 4C : 895 Kg of dry weight, THE most economical supercar made for BACKROADS here in Europe !!! VIPER : weight 1530 Kg ( 635 Kg MORE ), and U have to be a BILIONAIRE driving it 🤣, Very good CAR thoug, specially at USA, Nurbugring, etc 🌟 !!! TK🇳🇴
Put Ohlins strada corsa you will see the difference. Mine is tuned by Scara73. And it is mega. Original steering feeling was 4 in a scale till 10. Now i can tell you is 8.5 the evaluation. Trust me. Night and Day
Keep going.... The question asked, what's more fun to drive, is bigger better? Just wait when I compare the Viper against my 3 cylinder 60hp Honda Beat. LOL
Really nice to hear a review of the 4C's characteristics from someone who *already* owns a raw, unadulterated car like the Viper, and appreciates it for what it is. This was great insight into how the 4C compares to something with similar compromises but a different character. It's frustrating to hear people try to compare it with more GT-oriented cars like the Cayman, simply because they exist in the same price bracket.
The 4C is massive fun. You can fit simple and cheap mods to calm the 'from factory' track biased handling if you want, but it'll still be a reliable, nimble and quick kart for the road and track. What more could anyone want?
Nice review. I have a 4C, drove my friend’s Gen 5 ACR and it’s scary. I also have a 987.1 cayman S that’s been tweaked for track use, it weighs 3100 lbs with driver and fluids, corner balanced with lots of negative camber, bucket seats, harness, oil mods and cooling, tuned to 330 hp, and my Alfa is still more fun to drive and makes my cayman feel like a luxury sports car. You can really feel the weight even if it’s just around 550 plus pound difference. I always believe that it’s fun to drive a slow car fast.
I always enjoy your 4c videos. You say what I often have trouble putting to words.
After owning two of each I can attest these two are polar opposites. 4c is pretty, handles like on rails, very good and easy to drive on track. 4c in some ways is more fun on back roads because it's not as handful as Viper. Viper on the other hand is more masculine and I prefer the look over 4c. It is brutally fast and demands a lot of respect. It is scary to drive it at the limit. In ways that's why it is more fun. Long story short, I ended up keeping the Viper because it fits my personality more.
The 4C shoul not be showed to Golfers, here in Norway, most of them thinks EL "cars", is THE thing, and they are RIGHT 🤣
TK🇳🇴
Amazing video! Thanks for sharing your experience with both vehicles. I’m a diehard viper fan but would probably choose the 4c if I had the choice
Just got a 4C Spider. Just an amazing car. NO ONE knows what it is
Amazing.
Awesome video and awesome car. Actually every Alfa Romeo is an awesome car.
Thanks for this comparative review....just watching you drive both cars, the 4C definitely put more smiles on your face. (similarly, the same excitability with other testers who drive the 4C, including the grumpy guys)
I noticed this too. All smiles in the 4C. I'm sure I have some inbuilt bias as I love the 4C, but the Viper is a legend. That being said, the smiles sell the experience.
Thanks for this! I'm also in Virginia and I owned a S2000 (yellow '08), then a Viper (yellow '02), and am now considering buying a 4C.
Not quite the same Viper as yours, but I sold mine because of some of what you mentioned here - it was too much for the street and that kept it from being as much fun as my S2000 had been. So now I want something fun like the S2000 but more exotic.
You should do another video like this on which is more fun, the S2000 or the 4C.
I plan on it! The S2000 vs 4C is going to be some hell of a battle.... but that video is going to happen. Once it warms up a little.
I'm in the same boat minus the viper. I have a 405bhp s2k, and 23 ford tbucket custom. I started looking at the 4c to add to the fun car stable and have my first italian sports car thats also reliable on and off the track.
Looking forward to that one. Earned a subscriber and loving your stable.
@@crossfirearcade8015 Try to drive one before you buy if you can. I bought a 4C Spider about a month after I posted my comment, but I returned it after 7 days (bought from Carvana). It just wasn't that much fun, IMO.
@@JesseOsbyI just saw your comment now. Never got notified. What did you not like about the 4c? Was it all stock as I'll do a stage 1 ecu map to give ut a little more pep.
ohhhhh, U got the heavie cabri, then my nubers are closer, butstill a HORSE in difference 🤣
TK 🇳🇴
Good collection. One of my 2 favorite car pairs ever.
Slower, lighter, fine tuned, cars are more fun because you can give them the full beans without ending up in jail or getting killed. That is why there is such an appeal to anything from a 130bhp 4 cylidner Mazda all the way up to a 340bhp 911 with the Elises and the 4Cs and the Caymans in between.
I have massive respect for a machine that can't be tamed and tries to kill you, meaning theViper. But the Alfa is really something special. Intersting that you chose to own two snakes on wheels (plus the honda lol). Cheerio!
LIKE, best rewiew of this car´s I´ve seen ❤️🇮🇹🇫🇷🇺🇸🇬🇧🇯🇵 ?
TK🇳🇴
I love your easy to watch video. This is my first time on the channel. I like that it doesn't tell me the exact same stats like every other video over and over again. Can you say more about why you don't find the Alfa steering wheel comfortable? Thank you!
Thanks! This is why I did this video! So many compare the 4C to a lotus and I don't get it, lol.
@@TodayIWorkOn are the 4c body steel or aluminum? Can you by any chance try putting a magnet next to the fender or hood to know if it is aluminum or steel?
After 7 secons of listening, these are noncomperable cars built for differnet purposes !!!!
4C : 895 Kg of dry weight, THE most economical supercar made for BACKROADS here in Europe !!!
VIPER : weight 1530 Kg ( 635 Kg MORE ), and U have to be a BILIONAIRE driving it 🤣, Very good CAR thoug, specially at USA, Nurbugring, etc 🌟 !!!
TK🇳🇴
Love My 4C❤️🍀👍
Have both cars currently, the viper is just too much to for the street. I I wish the Alfa have longer nose lol.
Those wheels 👌🏽
❤ U´re REPORT !
Thank U 🌟
TK🇳🇴
Put Ohlins strada corsa you will see the difference. Mine is tuned by Scara73. And it is mega. Original steering feeling was 4 in a scale till 10. Now i can tell you is 8.5 the evaluation. Trust me. Night and Day
Where can I buy those coils in the states? I know Ohlins makes them but I can't find them anywhere. I have Ohlins on my S2000 and love them.
Hey I'm looking to buy a 4c. Are those wheels factory or upgrade?
Upgraded custom forged rims. Check out the 4C forum and look up the rim group buy. I also have a video detailing the custom rims on my YT.
Those wheels! Are they the GroupBuy wheels from the 4C Forum?
Yes, they were the prototype wheels. John decided to go another direction and another company, but these are the OG's. Lol.
Is the don't tread on me plate related to the characteristics of the 4C?
I have no idea! My wife put the order in for the plates, lol.
the stearing problem is not the car, is is your problem.
Those who complain about getting in and out, should not even LOOK at this car🤣, they should buy a toyota camry/RAV4 or something !!!! 🤣
TK🇳🇴
Viper is missing a valve stem cap
Weight reduction =)
A V10 8.4L 645 hp compared to an I4 1.7L 240 hp...
Keep going.... The question asked, what's more fun to drive, is bigger better? Just wait when I compare the Viper against my 3 cylinder 60hp Honda Beat. LOL
You are missing the point