Exactly @jamesangel6986 . Both sound fantastic, but to me copper is more different than say aluminum or steel. I think it helps cover a broader sound spectrum. But hey - a brass snare is another great addition too!
High tuning is awesome. Cranked? It choked the drum. I love my 8x14 raw Copperphonic snare drum. It has such a great combination of dark/warm tonality, crack/ring without sustaining for days, with a nice low end to round out the tone. Ludwig hit it out of the park with this series!
I agree - I have some students who tune their snares like the cranked in this video. They even use shoe string to pull the snares as tight as possible! It's a sound for sure, though I'd rather let the drum breathe a bit. Love what ludwig did with the copperphonic - I'm curious to see how it sounds compared to the bronzephonic
Thanks Nick. I appreciate your explanation. That's what I've been doing for the last 45 years with tuning. I purchased a Tune-bot 5 years ago. I've been experimenting with it on and off. I use it primarily for the bottom heads and tune by ear on the batter side. I found for most of my snare drums, the bottom head between 382 to 400 Hz to be the sweet spot. All the best.
No problem, @vincentfederico1585 - I appreciate you watching and leaving a comment! When you press on the bottom head with your fingers, does it have some give to it or is it tight around that tuning zone?
Thanks for these, Nick! What I like about your "demo" videos is that you actually focus on the snare drum. Not sure if it's miking, but this is what I'm looking for-not having the rest of the kit and the particular cymbal set as a part of the overall demo or sound, and your cosistency and talent allows the snare drum to shine through, every time. This makes a huge difference which I appreciate. I've been watching for a couple months now - coincidently, I've been researching copper snares! You seem connected and serious-admirable!
Wow @billpalmer6318 - Thank you for that! I try to play the drum as if I was in a gig situation, and depending on the tuning depends on what I'll play on the drum. I feel that provides a more well-rounded experience for the viewer, rather than playing the same thing in each tuning. Also, all snares can do more than 4 tunings so I might as well show that as it gives a higher probability of getting the preferred sound of viewers. As for the mic/recording setup I always approach the same way, which is to try and make it sound like you're in the room and have everything sound even volume wise. Definitely still trying to improve my mixing abilities - there's always something to learn!
Thanks for commenting and for the info, Nick! I subscribed a while back and very much appreciate your approach and vids plus hearing stuff I don’t have or may never actually own.
I enjoy your videos. It would be helpful if you had a Tune-bot, to give your viewers the numbers of the bottom and top heads for each tuning. I know this might be a little more time consuming.
Thanks for following along, @vincentfederico1585 ! To be completely transparent, I have a tune-bot. I stopped using it because regardless of the drum or situation, it will tell me every tension rod is the same though you can hear a drastic difference between them. They're just not accurate, unfortunately. As for snare tuning I always follow the same procedure - table-top tension for the bottom for a snappy snare response, and finger tight on all top lugs followed by a full turn on each. I fine tune the top head from there getting all tension points to match pitch, then will do either 1/4 or 1/2 turn between each tuning.
The first thing I always do when buying a new metal Ludwig is remove the rubber gaskets between the lugs and the shall. They steal the sustain from the drum, dampening its natural vibration. Without them, the drum begins to breathe and sing. By the way, Ludwig had not installed them before. For some reason they started doing this somewhere in the second half of the 2000s. But you may have your own vision of the sound and you may have a completely different opinion on this matter.
Totally - @user-iv1hd6ex2l . I've heard others say removing the gaskets makes the drum sound like the vintage ones, which makes sense since they didn't have them. I prefer to keep them on the drum so viewers hear exactly how the drum would sound from the factory. I don't think either way is right or wrong, but like you said - just user preference
Sounded good at higher tunings but pretty rough in the lower ones go my ear. I guess it’s not my cup of tea. Your playing was nice though and your kit sounds great 👍
I'm a fan of higher tunings as well @sharper9009 . This drum had a significant hum in the lower tunings as well. Thank you for the kind words on my playing and as for the kit - you can't go wrong with @ludwigdrumshq . Their drums (especially the toms) have a sound no one can touch!
Totally agree! It's like the overtone gets shorter and more direct at higher tunings, rather than ringing around the same length as it does with other metal snares.
Wow! I thought I would add a brass to my collection, but after hearing the copper, I’m digging that. 🥁
Exactly @jamesangel6986 . Both sound fantastic, but to me copper is more different than say aluminum or steel. I think it helps cover a broader sound spectrum.
But hey - a brass snare is another great addition too!
I have a 14x8 Copperphonic and it’s the best sounding Ludwig snare I’ve ever heard.
I bet - love 8X14 snares! 8X14 Black Beauty was the first snare I grabbed with Ludwig, another amazing drum
Incredible sounds, like every Ludwig snare!
Couldn't agree more!
10:00. Wow that’s some lovely playing Nick. Really awesome fills.
Thank you @rubytuesday1345 - I'm always trying to think of parts that aren't just chop out, yet provide a little excitement. Thank you for this!
High tuning is awesome. Cranked? It choked the drum. I love my 8x14 raw Copperphonic snare drum. It has such a great combination of dark/warm tonality, crack/ring without sustaining for days, with a nice low end to round out the tone. Ludwig hit it out of the park with this series!
I agree - I have some students who tune their snares like the cranked in this video. They even use shoe string to pull the snares as tight as possible! It's a sound for sure, though I'd rather let the drum breathe a bit.
Love what ludwig did with the copperphonic - I'm curious to see how it sounds compared to the bronzephonic
Thanks Nick. I appreciate your explanation. That's what I've been doing for the last 45 years with tuning. I purchased a Tune-bot 5 years ago. I've been experimenting with it on and off. I use it primarily for the bottom heads and tune by ear on the batter side. I found for most of my snare drums, the bottom head between 382 to 400 Hz to be the sweet spot. All the best.
No problem, @vincentfederico1585 - I appreciate you watching and leaving a comment! When you press on the bottom head with your fingers, does it have some give to it or is it tight around that tuning zone?
I like the hell out of it
Me too!
Yet another nice drum… maybe if I’m a good kid, Santa will bring me one!
Totally - or maybe one day it will become a giveaway snare😉
Thanks for these, Nick! What I like about your "demo" videos is that you actually focus on the snare drum. Not sure if it's miking, but this is what I'm looking for-not having the rest of the kit and the particular cymbal set as a part of the overall demo or sound, and your cosistency and talent allows the snare drum to shine through, every time. This makes a huge difference which I appreciate. I've been watching for a couple months now - coincidently, I've been researching copper snares! You seem connected and serious-admirable!
Wow @billpalmer6318 - Thank you for that! I try to play the drum as if I was in a gig situation, and depending on the tuning depends on what I'll play on the drum. I feel that provides a more well-rounded experience for the viewer, rather than playing the same thing in each tuning. Also, all snares can do more than 4 tunings so I might as well show that as it gives a higher probability of getting the preferred sound of viewers. As for the mic/recording setup I always approach the same way, which is to try and make it sound like you're in the room and have everything sound even volume wise. Definitely still trying to improve my mixing abilities - there's always something to learn!
Thanks for commenting and for the info, Nick! I subscribed a while back and very much appreciate your approach and vids plus hearing stuff I don’t have or may never actually own.
Of course, interacting with viewers is something I don’t take lightly and always try to do! Appreciate you following and commenting! 🥁
What a beauty! I have a 6.5” Raw Copperphonic that I love. It has a pretty similar tone. Thx for sharing Nick! 🥁👏
That's a great drum too, @dataslipsen ! I prefer 6.5 or 7" deep snares, though this one broke that preference.
I enjoy your videos. It would be helpful if you had a Tune-bot, to give your viewers the numbers of the bottom and top heads for each tuning. I know this might be a little more time consuming.
Thanks for following along, @vincentfederico1585 ! To be completely transparent, I have a tune-bot. I stopped using it because regardless of the drum or situation, it will tell me every tension rod is the same though you can hear a drastic difference between them. They're just not accurate, unfortunately. As for snare tuning I always follow the same procedure - table-top tension for the bottom for a snappy snare response, and finger tight on all top lugs followed by a full turn on each. I fine tune the top head from there getting all tension points to match pitch, then will do either 1/4 or 1/2 turn between each tuning.
I thought it sounded great at each tuning. A copper snare is on my wish list. The front runners so far are Ludwig and Tama.
It's a great drum to have in your collection, though I'd suggest the Ludwig😉
Aye let me borrow that... I'll give it back 😬
List of snares @handidrummer is looking to borrow:
Every one (that's @ludwigdrumshq )😉
Don't you patronize me😂😂😂😂
The first thing I always do when buying a new metal Ludwig is remove the rubber gaskets between the lugs and the shall. They steal the sustain from the drum, dampening its natural vibration. Without them, the drum begins to breathe and sing. By the way, Ludwig had not installed them before. For some reason they started doing this somewhere in the second half of the 2000s. But you may have your own vision of the sound and you may have a completely different opinion on this matter.
Totally - @user-iv1hd6ex2l . I've heard others say removing the gaskets makes the drum sound like the vintage ones, which makes sense since they didn't have them. I prefer to keep them on the drum so viewers hear exactly how the drum would sound from the factory. I don't think either way is right or wrong, but like you said - just user preference
@@NickCostaMusic Totally agree with you. Everyone has their own preferences
That baby cracks!
Right, @jkozol ?!? That darker overtone really cuts when you get into higher tunings.
Yes! This may be their most underrated shells!
Sounded good at higher tunings but pretty rough in the lower ones go my ear. I guess it’s not my cup of tea. Your playing was nice though and your kit sounds great 👍
I'm a fan of higher tunings as well @sharper9009 . This drum had a significant hum in the lower tunings as well. Thank you for the kind words on my playing and as for the kit - you can't go wrong with @ludwigdrumshq . Their drums (especially the toms) have a sound no one can touch!
Really love the sound at low tuning! But it really takes off at high tunings. Something about that low tuning tone though.
Totally agree! It's like the overtone gets shorter and more direct at higher tunings, rather than ringing around the same length as it does with other metal snares.
Great sounding drum! I wonder if the 6.5 version would have like qualities?
I think they would be similar, though might have more overtones since it's a tad deeper. Guess I'll have to grab one and make a comparison video!
Can you compare the acrophonic and the black beauty?
Totally! I'd need to get them in the same size though. What size do you think would be best - 6.5X14?
@@NickCostaMusic 5x14 is what I would like to see.
Noted! I’ll have to get hold of a 5x14 10 lug black beauty 🥁
Would the raw copperphonic sound any different?
That's a great question! I'm not sure though, since I've never played them back to back. That would be a great video, though!
Love your channel man.
Really appreciate that, thank you! 🙏 🥁
Weren’t Ludwig thinking about discontinuing their bronze snares…?
Possibly, but they just introduced the bronze acrolite not too long ago - it sounds amazing!
@@NickCostaMusic
It was my Nick.
Thanks for the video, but not for me. Too many overtones on the drum.
Totally can hear that! What's your go to snare?