DON'T Use Burnice in Mono Teams, Disorder Make Her INSANE | Zenless Zone Zero
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2024
- Do not buy into the hype of Mono Fire team with Burnice, Please....
She's SIGNIFICANTLY better with disorder.
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Bro 5 anomalies in a single stun is crazy lmao
4:05 Inferno Metal looking different
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I’ve been debating on pulling for Burnice, and this video just convinced me. She looks like a powerhouse with Jane.
Personally I think Janes parties are already very solid, and her parties really don't need any extra damage. Have to replace seth/grace/lucy/nicole... nah, her parties already slams content, and applies and provides plenty of buffs and enough disorder tbh. I'd class burnice as an extavagant addition imo, same goes for Ceasar
that was a really cool seth tip. i am planning on running jane seth burnice so i found that particularly helpful.
Yup, I was confused on why people keept wanting to build Anomaly characters in mono elements...
For now I'm planning a Burnice-Grace-Rina team, this last one built with AP to not "pollute" the Shock trigger and have extended Shock and Burn exploding stronger Disorder. As soon as Yanagi is out, Grace will be benched, and when a new Anomaly element gets released, I'll try to bench also Rina (like Ether anomaly to have 3 dots always ticking and exploding)
I have a dream
Yanagi burnice piper
SteamBun I tell you something ... you kinda destroyed my plan for a half a year or so 😂🥲 I had planned to get an anomaly agent for every element because most of the set effects benifits from triggering elements like burn, shock, corruption, ice. - my future attacker would equip these sets. Now I realized this tactic might be unefficient. I thought 1 stunner/supporter, 1 anomaly agent, 1 attacker would be ideal for most cases as a mono team. The Attacker overwrite the element effect and reduce the overall dmg of the anomaly agent. Damn ... but with this argument any mono team does not want an anomaly agent, when there is also an attacker. Their only purpose can't be just triggering disorder 🥲 Look at Jane, she is fine. So eather they are the star and replace the attacker or they will be in a disorder team? ... I'm thankful for the eye opening. You totally got a point!
Ice and physicality are good in mono. However at the moment, electric fire and ether are only "good" when played in disorder.
Hoyoverse can easily change this with Core Passives, like how Jane's assault multiplier Match's DOT anomaly. But nothing like that rn.
@@SteamedBunX-ZZZFire kinda has a niche due to its disc being really really good. Great effect, and not very demanding in terms of needed element uptime, unlike shock. Mono-Fire will get competitive with Limited S-Rankers like Lighter, but the comps will never involve an anomaly char. It's infuriating to see how many people are carelessly recommending Burnice for S11 as if thats genuinely viable. There'll be so much pull regret once Lighters kit is revealed.
It became a discovery for me that Seth, by triggering a chain attacks with an enhanced base attack, can put a buff on the character in front. Thanks.
It's his whole identity, good for you learning it now. Better late than never.
I think he meant how he can put the shield on the character AFTER him (I showed at the end of the video)
The best disorder team in future maybe DoT triple disorder team using fire, electric and ether anomaly characters like Burnice, Yanagi and Yutane. 😅 Miyabi is ice + "physical" for instant high damage so Miyabi will be in another team with the 2 other idols for their faction combo.
Plan to pull for Caeser because Caeser, Burnice, and Jane is such a crazy team. Having that +1000ATK and +25%DMG increase just does amazing things to all things anomaly, afterburn, and disorder.
Getting Caeser makes getting Burnice hard but Caeaer, Jane, Yanagi may work amazingly too.
Yes i'm going for Burnice. Team is gonna be Lucy, Burnice and Jane. I also have Grace so thinking might try Grace, Burnice and Jane
I'm considering both of those teams too, but I also want lighter for my s11 team, and I'm not sure I'll have enough polys for both of them
@@heartfelt_hero good luck, I'm skipping Lighter. After Burnice I'm full saving for Miyabi.
@@DarkChaser3 Thank you, good luck getting Burnice!
@@heartfelt_hero thanks, I haven't won a single 50/50 so hope this changes with Burnice
The actual damage of Grace team is lower that "theoratical" when I'm playinig, For me VERY difficult to maintain full control over the "stacking" and inserting EX special in when the bar fills up. So I'm applying Shock about ~30% slower (based on my recording) against Ambush enemies, compared to in less aggresive stages, because i constantly either throw out EX special without stacks, or continue hitting with regular combo while i'm maxed out on stacks.
I'm going to make a quick crit showcase later (because i think it will be fun) but before we even get there, DO NOT BUILD HER CRIT.
Deff pulling Burnice, happy af that i pulled ceasar & won 50/50.
Jane, Ceasar, Burnice is going to be cracked.
Plus Ceasar already hard buffs my Ellen & Lycoan team and I can slot in Seth with Jane and Burnice.
I luv how Ceasar & Burnice are luxury units, you don't need them, (Maybe need Ceasar for Shiyu Def) but they level up your account no matter who you have.
What do you about pairing Burnice and Jane with Lucy? How does it compare to Seth? And is Lucy with Freedom Blues viable?
Lucy is still better with freedom blues if you are against BOSSES as you will have troubling stunning them, and actually used the 4 set bonus of swing jazz.
The anomaly proficiency Seth brings is less valuable than Lucy's attack, but the build up resistance shred makes Seth still better.
Lastly there is a HUGE trap with Burnice rn. Yes, she's good with Jane and Piper, but she will likely be much more valuable with Electric and Ether anomaly in the future.
@@SteamedBunX-ZZZ I see, thanks for the quick response! Good to know I can still use my lvl 40 Seth with Proto Punk.
As for weapons for f2p Burnice, I'm guessing Weeping Gemini for Bosses and the funny dinosaur for stun/everything else?
Those two are good options but the best option is actually Piper's signiture lol
@@SteamedBunX-ZZZthanks tho I will still run Jane burnice Lucy as I intend to skip the next 10 charaxters or so
I went all in on m6/w5 Jane so burnice will be glued to her for a long while
jokes on you i have a crit build for hyper carry and an anomaly build for if i get yanagi. she will be unstoppable 😈
she definitely feels like hsr topaz or kafka
S11 mains... we lost... 😢
At the moment I'm thinking Burnice Lucy Grace, with Yanagi replacing Grace if I succeed at pulling her.
Interknot lvl 46 newbie here.
I've been drinking the ZZZ coolade like a madman for the past 2 weeks since I started playing the game.
My only S ranker non-standard agent is Caesar coz other Paisen Proxies said that she's immense value for a newbie account.
So far, they're absolutely right.
Unfortunately, Caesar is just a single genki girl and she cant carry 2 teams into Shiyu defense. Caesar-Piper-Lucy team is leading the way into harder content, but the other team gets obliterated every time. I'm still learning the ropes you see.
However, same Paisen Proxies also told me that once I get my first S-Rank DPS, the game will finally become much easier.
So here's my question.
Is Burnice the S-Rank DPS I desperately need that I should dip into my Miyabi savings to get?
Or should I just hold off and pray that Yanagi is not a Disorder specialist coz I dont have the agents to proc it.
Or maybe I'll just grit my teeth and save all the way until Miyabi?
Two things.
Your team as a whole will deals at least 50% more damage once you got to interknoz level 50, since that unlocks level 60 for your character and weapon.
Also if you were to pull Burnice, and your piper is already on the other team. You will pretty much HAVE TO. Also pull for Yanagi, as you can only play disorder team with that.
So I would suggest against it.
Can i run her with grace since i am currently running jane seth lucy team
Yes
@@SteamedBunX-ZZZ can you recommend third member for that team since I am using lucy with jane
If afterburn procs off attack, it would it be better to go Attack instead of anomaly mastery?
Her slot 6 is definatlye better with either anomaly mastery, or Energy regen (ER is not complete nessasery but i'm doing some testing and is working on a video about it).
If you are talking about Anomaly proficiency, ATK as substats is better than ANomaly proficiency after you hit 300 threashold.
About the anomaly + attacker team. Isnt the anomaly diluted by attacker be compensated by the attacker's dps? Is it really dps lost or just "I have smaller pp numbers to screen capture"?
its also a misnomer that it reduces anomaly damage. if your dps is also building up anomaly it means your anomaly buildup is faster. so you might have lower numbers from the trigger but you're also triggering it more often by having more burn application. so it's just shifting damage around not gaining or losing afaik
Not really. Because your DPS would deal more damage if you have a support in the place instead of anomaly character.
In the future we could have support focused anomaly character who has insane buff/debuff, and can build anomaly fast but have low scaling. But rn the anomaly characters we have are all DPS.
Quick question, do you think Hypercarry burnice can be a thing? if so, what would be the best comp for her?
Currently it's not going to be a thing, there are a few things to look at.
1, Burnice does not have ANY build in crit unlike other attackers.
2, If you build her for Burn, her DPS is very bad if you Only burn enemy every 13 seconds. someone else HAS to take on the damaging role while the enemy is burning.
@@SteamedBunX-ZZZ Well, gues i'll have a problem making a team to fit her since:
1, I don't have jane nor ceaser
2, I don't plan on pulling for yanagi (not yet)
I can manage something with grace, i think
Grace + burnice better with seth, anton or rina?
With Seth is better. Sad to say but Grace is VERY weak compared to other anomalies so getting Pen for her is not worth it, also Seth's buff last way longer.
Grace Anton works and has worked since 1.0 clearing sub 1 minute runs, you just defensive assist to anton and burst with anton on stun. IDK how do you say he doesn't work with grace, in this case anton has 4pc Thunder and his Core passive that amps his damage and Grace is just your enabler of those 2, coz you burst with Anton. That isn't the case with Burnice and S11 because S11 she only has the 4pc Inferno that increases her dps output with burnice sustaining the burn for the 4pc condition. The roles of these 2 anomaly units for Mono Teams is to make the Attackers shine and not the anomaly damage, but I do agree that you better just run with a support, but since we still lack a lot of them they Burnice and Grace with S11 and Anton works as their enablers.
Ummm, so does that means I should not pull her if I'm not interested in disorder? I was thinking on buildling her crit with Mono fire since I've been playing Soldier 11 for a while now. How bad is it actually?
She's really only meant to be played with disorder atm. She doesn't have ANY buff to increase the damage of the other DPS, and her off field damage is honestly negligible.
You know this game Is PVE it doesn't matter along as you're having fun and clearing content
Watch Iamrivenous burnice guide and you will see that crit is surprisingly competitive.
I got curious and looked it up, and it says, AP Burnice in disorder team deals 150% of the damage Crit burnice mono team deals. I wouldn't call that competitive. WIth that being said, if people can clear stages with Billy solo, they can clear with Mono fire so it doesn't realy matter lol
@@randomttk6464suprisingly, but not exceedingly. it still falls behind by quite a bit compared to disorder, which hasnt even shown its full potential, which it will once Yanagi arrives.
I have zhu yuan without sign weapon with 2500 atk, 46.6 crit rate, and 174.8 crit dmg. Do i need search more crit rate and reduce crit damage or is it good enough?😅
I think you're good, but u could get crit damage higher.
Zhuyuan gets 30% free crit rate after ex/chain/ult so that leave syou at 76.6% crit which is high.
So wait how good is burnice + grace + c1 rina?
For Burnice. Not that good, for grace, amazing.
Unfortunately grace has a lot of issues within her kit that make her VERY difficult to play 😔
Jane, Burnice, Lucy. But now Im a bit worried my Lucy might weaken Burnice's disorder dmg.
Jane Burnice Caesar. Two sons of Calydon, two physical, eeryone gets their passive, and you still get the damage boost for the whole team. It will be my 1st full S team though, which is expensive.
@@MrElgate As much as I want all 3, real life resources prevent me from getting them. Gotta live with your means.
Lucy needs so little field time that this would hardly be a problem, especially at m6 that you'll probably get anyway on burnice's banner
She won't, she dilute only very little amount unlike S11 who's on field.
How about Lucy's C6 while Burnice uses her Ex Special? The boars raining down also causes Fire Dmg
I skiped Caesar and I think i gonna skip Burnice, i dont like her playstyle, i'll be waiting for male character
corin + koleda + burnice is good?
weird combination. Somhow sweet to ask that. They aren't really made for each other. No faction bonus, or sinergy. It's not optimal. But if it brings you fun, then why not? You should be able to clear everything regardless.
@@totalwayne3089 so burnice is bad for attacker+stunner teams?
Yes, She's much better in disorder team.
@@miuiruma273 Well, the thing is your comp doesn't really have much synergy. First of all you have 0/3 additional passive which will hurt your results quite a lot, and you would much rather have a support to complement what your carry is doing than an alternative source of dmg that doesn't work together with the first one, just like bun said with his Ellen/Zhu Yuan exemple. For Corin, you'd want to look for a Victoria or physical agent as well as a good stunner to abuse that added passive. On top of that you will want to add a support of your choice to juice up her burst on stunned ennemies. Put like that, an exemple of a good Corin team would be Corin Rina Qingyi to build daze fast and do as big a burst of dmg as possible once the ennemy is stunned.
@@miuiruma273 On a sidenote, if you really want to run Burnice with Corin, you need your 3rd member to have good stun potential + get your synergy passives + get as much support as possible. As for now and probably forever the only fitting character for that niche is Caesar and fortunately she does it very well + provides a shield will Corin will really like. You really want Caesar's signature wengine though so it gets expensive a bit... I will tell you if you use Caesar and Corin Burnice is not your best option BUT : it also does work quite well still because you can trigger assault at a decent pace to get the disorders you need for Burnice and Caesar triggers Burnice's passive to make her damage better.
is lighters kit good, i was wondering if he would work well alongside burnice and ceasar
Why ask here. Look up his leaks
@@revo5124 Idk I ask anywhere
How are you building Burnice for max efficiency? I’m torn between focusing on her crit or going for her anomaly potential.
DO NOT GO CRIT. You are looking at -30 to 40% damage from Burnice if you play her in mono fire...