Great match! Even though you lost 8-0 Winston, I thought you played about as good as I've ever seen you play. Your strokes are solid. It's the footwork that is holding you back as I've mentioned in previous videos. Almost all of the shots that went into the net or long for you were a direct result of you not being on balance and/or too close or too far from the ball. When you have time and setup properly, your stokes are way better than 4.5.
I agree! Winston, you really played phenomenally! You just made a few mistakes at the wrong time, and it cost you. But I felt like you absolutely held your own against Changbang! He’s a former pro, and you went toe to toe with no problem!
I always feel more invested in these matches on your channel than pro matches. getting to know the players, their equipment and just hearing from them before and after in a more genuine manner than what is shown on tv makes it so much more enjoyable.
Love this. ChangBang is such a great channel. I'm glad he's getting more integrated into Tennis UA-cam. You should try bringing back some of the old Karue handicap rules where he's not allowed to hit winners or he has to win the point in
Just by looking to Winston strokes, volleys, etc. I think he must be close to 5.0. But again, ratings are based on results, not aesthetics. You should play some tourney matches @WinstonDu.
Jon seems like a very nice and humble guy. Love that and his game! That was very good advice he gave to you Winston. I'm def. going to subscribe to his channel. Great video Winston!
Really enjoyed the match breakdown at the end, and how you're both very humble to each other. Loved his feedback to be more patient, not do as much sometimes, see how your opponent reacts, and "give yourself a chance." I'll remember this, thank you. Good vibes all around, subbed to both!
Hey Winston, I noticed in your game, while your shots in itself are suited for a 4.0 to 4.5 player, I feel that the reason you are making a lot of errors is because of two reasons: 1. Your position is too close to the ball. This seems to happen often. Watch yourself at 0.25 speed at these times: 8:599:189:37 Now while I think you understand very well the importance of creating space between you and the ball and I see you doing that, you aren't creating enough space. Maybe try backing up 2 or 3 more inches from the ball. Practicing this on a tennis wall would help, so that you can understand what distance you're the most comfortable at and able to create the most control, topspin and power, while trying to increase your distance from the ball. 2. Short ball game seems to be inconsistent. Maybe try using the short ball to create opportunities rather than giving it a full swing. Playing 5 to 10 point tiebreak using only short court would help with this. Good luck on your tennis journey!
Great content! after playing a tournament this weekend, I can see that you really playing all out with no regrets or playing to safe. I rather have played like that even if the outcome is like that. Also really great to see how Jon played after the his first match, his fitness is in great shape for not playing all the time. Thank you guys for having great content together
Good hitting Winston, haven't seen you play in a minute and it looks like you've gone up a notch. Same with your serve, looks a ton better too. Keep up the vids great stuff guys!
Winston's backhand looking Solid!! Jon a little generous on some calls but still an educational set. Winston's plus one inside out fearhand after the serve on the deuce court is a good go to play. Good luck with your Racquet Journey! good stuff!
Good game. Winston played well. Many people don't realize how much a difference between pros and rec players. It is really interesting to watch, as we watched Jon played against a college player. Jon's consistency is so high when he's playing a weaker player and doesn't have to risk.
Jonathan’s observations of Winston’s overhitting in this match were very relatable. I do this so much!!! Frequently when I go for a winner I hit it out, hit the net, or try for a shot too close to the lines. Gotta relax a bit, I suppose. Great content as always, Winston!!!! 🙌
Nice video. Winston you hit some really good strokes and had some good rallies despite the one-sided score line. Apart from the overhitting sometimes I think your footwork and movement also lets you down sometimes. I feel you are slow to move sometimes, or are not well balanced for your shot, but you probably know that already. Some really solid hitting though, well done. Also well done to Changbang for his solid controlled performance. I enjoyed watching both of you.
Despite playing an experienced professional, you really had some nice play at times. Love the bigger serve that's emerging at times, plus some of your point construction during some of your service games, finishing points at the net, volleys really improving. You had the pace to hang with him in rallies but his consistency and defensive neutralizations are so tough. I think like he said perhaps taking a little off some of the attacking shots in favor of a bit more consistency could net you some games next time, especially if you're cracking some big first serves in. Jon's really tough, loved his serve like a pro drill video.
Changbang is a serious talent, I think he was taking it easy on you Winston, BUT great play from your side as well. Thanks for this awesome entertainment!!
hey winston jon was an awesome person glad he came to the channel. one thing i thought was that you could actually go even further on racket specs with future players the way you did here. grip size, too, and stuff.
Good job Winston! You played/won some legit points against... a very legit guy. IMHO I think you should stick with the ol' 100... That 98 VS thing is a pretty tough stick for us mere mortals.
Jonathan is a very efficient player, super impressive strokes. Here he kept the ball to the middle of the court and wanted to see what you could do with it. Winston had great forehands and some good approaches; a little more volley practice and I think you'd force him to up his game!
Yo Winston, when was the last time you restrung that 2013 aeropro drive because those strings sounded pretty dead. A fresh restring will bring that racquet back to life! I've always got one sitting in my bad for fun haha.
Winston, your backhand is much improved and your forehand had really good shape. When you're playing someone as good as ChangBang, you need free points. I would start incorporating more serves into your practice. If you can get a couple of free or +1 points a game, your outcome would be 8-4 versus 8-0. But 8-4 would push you to a 5.0 level player. I would also work on sprints. Your footwork is pretty good, but you, like all of us mere mortals, get heavy in the legs as the match progresses.
Absolutely. I just played a singles set against someone much better and Jon's tip would have helped me a lot. I made way too many errors going for too much. Winston had some great points though as well as an ace and an awesome serve +1.
I' noticed your second serves are often quite close to the lines. You don't see even pros aim so close to the lines and thats maybe a change that can help reduce unforced errors
Great content! Only advice I would give Winston is take a good amount of time to work on your serve. I can see in most of your matches you don’t put much on the serve and most people return it pretty easily. If you get more aggressive on your serve and can put more pressure on the returner and when you’re on return Winston you won’t have to work so hard always playing catch up.
at 7:57 Winston takes 12 tiny steps getting to the ball,...is that a strategy?, most players will take longer strides, but I noticed that Winston does the tiny-step strategy frequently.
Pro tip: Work on your backhand to improve consistency and power and so that you stop running around balls for the forehand. Unless you have Nadal's forehand, you won't make it very far past 4.5 USTA running around easy backhands. I know he was taking it easy on you, but this is just a general tip coming from a former blue chip ;)
The Winston Du and MTHQ series of lessons are literally the way I learned to play tennis. You should check them out. Really good content. From service to mind set they walk you thru the whole game. Ps “I am a 4.5 so average club player”? Come on man, the average hacker like myself is a 2.5, 3.0 at best.
I still play with my 07 aeropro. Stick with the 100 frame Winston. You really hit through with pop instead of too much spin. Add a strip or two of lead take at 3/9 to get more stability and control to hit down the line with more confidence
Winston I believe a lot of the shots you hit would be outright winner against recreational players But the difference here is that your opponent was a former pro with incredible ball recognition and footwork to defend!
Winston would have done much better had he used his regular 98 sq in. I feel like the forehand misses esp early in the set was due to the 100 sq in's lesser plowthrough. Enjoyed watching the game. Keep it up, Winston.
Winston you looked like 10+ UTR out there!! Need little more polishing but the strokes and aggression is in the right direction!! Inexperience playing on this level is the only difference, one or two points per game and it’s 8-0 that’s all Keep it up, stick with the APD !!!
You played very solid Winston despite the score. Lots of Chang points was because you kind rush the short ball. Maybe just control little more to build up a better opportunity
You may want to try not taking such a large backswing on your forehand. If you compare with ChangBang you'll see he doesn't take such a large swing. It doesn't look like you're getting any more power, and you're losing control. I think it's more "fun" to swing with a big backswing, but if you want to improve.... Ironically your friend did a video on this: ua-cam.com/video/a5cQqfBOvRM/v-deo.html
Great match! Even though you lost 8-0 Winston, I thought you played about as good as I've ever seen you play. Your strokes are solid. It's the footwork that is holding you back as I've mentioned in previous videos. Almost all of the shots that went into the net or long for you were a direct result of you not being on balance and/or too close or too far from the ball. When you have time and setup properly, your stokes are way better than 4.5.
I agree! Winston, you really played phenomenally! You just made a few mistakes at the wrong time, and it cost you. But I felt like you absolutely held your own against Changbang! He’s a former pro, and you went toe to toe with no problem!
I always feel more invested in these matches on your channel than pro matches. getting to know the players, their equipment and just hearing from them before and after in a more genuine manner than what is shown on tv makes it so much more enjoyable.
that's what I try to do!
Love this. ChangBang is such a great channel. I'm glad he's getting more integrated into Tennis UA-cam.
You should try bringing back some of the old Karue handicap rules where he's not allowed to hit winners or he has to win the point in
After your switch to 100 sq inch your game got better tbh
Just by looking to Winston strokes, volleys, etc. I think he must be close to 5.0. But again, ratings are based on results, not aesthetics. You should play some tourney matches @WinstonDu.
I agree he should play tournament and should record it have you all seen @gladiatorstribe a very good channel
@@dpadronidk if it’s just me but his forehand is ugly asf
@@dpadron no way Winston's 5.0 lol
@@JH-bb8in Well, again, if he plays tournaments he can prove me, or you, wrong.
Jon seems like a very nice and humble guy. Love that and his game! That was very good advice he gave to you Winston. I'm def. going to subscribe to his channel. Great video Winston!
I agree. He seems super chill, and friendly and helpful.
Really enjoyed the match breakdown at the end, and how you're both very humble to each other. Loved his feedback to be more patient, not do as much sometimes, see how your opponent reacts, and "give yourself a chance." I'll remember this, thank you. Good vibes all around, subbed to both!
Winston, I ve never seen you play as good as this proset. Amazing, friend. Those are the first steps for getting to 5.0 Usta
Yeah he played well. Have to work on serve and limit the UEs. Slow down…
How has it taken me this long to notice that Winston always marks "deuce" on the scoreboard with his last name?
Hey Winston, I noticed in your game, while your shots in itself are suited for a 4.0 to 4.5 player, I feel that the reason you are making a lot of errors is because of two reasons:
1. Your position is too close to the ball. This seems to happen often. Watch yourself at 0.25 speed at these times: 8:59 9:18 9:37 Now while I think you understand very well the importance of creating space between you and the ball and I see you doing that, you aren't creating enough space. Maybe try backing up 2 or 3 more inches from the ball. Practicing this on a tennis wall would help, so that you can understand what distance you're the most comfortable at and able to create the most control, topspin and power, while trying to increase your distance from the ball.
2. Short ball game seems to be inconsistent. Maybe try using the short ball to create opportunities rather than giving it a full swing. Playing 5 to 10 point tiebreak using only short court would help with this.
Good luck on your tennis journey!
FYI, by close position, I mean to say your elbow is tucked in. I feel keeping your elbow straight more will help.
i've watched jonathan play tournaments in houston and he's a beast!
ChangBang is so clean.
He would whoop my ass too dude.
Nice match and great tip from him at the end.
This match really was a 8 game pro set
Great content! after playing a tournament this weekend, I can see that you really playing all out with no regrets or playing to safe. I rather have played like that even if the outcome is like that. Also really great to see how Jon played after the his first match, his fitness is in great shape for not playing all the time. Thank you guys for having great content together
Good hitting Winston, haven't seen you play in a minute and it looks like you've gone up a notch. Same with your serve, looks a ton better too. Keep up the vids great stuff guys!
Chang Bang is a BEAST. SO FREAKING SOLID.
Winston's backhand looking Solid!! Jon a little generous on some calls but still an educational set. Winston's plus one inside out fearhand after the serve on the deuce court is a good go to play. Good luck with your Racquet Journey! good stuff!
20,687 views, 562 likes, 108 comments, 76.5k subscribers. Nice!!
Good game. Winston played well. Many people don't realize how much a difference between pros and rec players. It is really interesting to watch, as we watched Jon played against a college player. Jon's consistency is so high when he's playing a weaker player and doesn't have to risk.
Jonathan’s observations of Winston’s overhitting in this match were very relatable. I do this so much!!! Frequently when I go for a winner I hit it out, hit the net, or try for a shot too close to the lines. Gotta relax a bit, I suppose. Great content as always, Winston!!!! 🙌
Nice video. Winston you hit some really good strokes and had some good rallies despite the one-sided score line. Apart from the overhitting sometimes I think your footwork and movement also lets you down sometimes. I feel you are slow to move sometimes, or are not well balanced for your shot, but you probably know that already. Some really solid hitting though, well done. Also well done to Changbang for his solid controlled performance. I enjoyed watching both of you.
Despite playing an experienced professional, you really had some nice play at times. Love the bigger serve that's emerging at times, plus some of your point construction during some of your service games, finishing points at the net, volleys really improving. You had the pace to hang with him in rallies but his consistency and defensive neutralizations are so tough. I think like he said perhaps taking a little off some of the attacking shots in favor of a bit more consistency could net you some games next time, especially if you're cracking some big first serves in. Jon's really tough, loved his serve like a pro drill video.
Changbang is a serious talent, I think he was taking it easy on you Winston, BUT great play from your side as well. Thanks for this awesome entertainment!!
hey winston jon was an awesome person glad he came to the channel. one thing i thought was that you could actually go even further on racket specs with future players the way you did here. grip size, too, and stuff.
what’s the winston racket?
Good job Winston! You played/won some legit points against... a very legit guy. IMHO I think you should stick with the ol' 100... That 98 VS thing is a pretty tough stick for us mere mortals.
your forehands were solid. big improvement from past videos. really good serves also
Your baseline is rock solid and there are so many great points!
Jonathan is a very efficient player, super impressive strokes. Here he kept the ball to the middle of the court and wanted to see what you could do with it. Winston had great forehands and some good approaches; a little more volley practice and I think you'd force him to up his game!
guys to clear up everything in the video the guy in the blue was the ex-pro, and he said before the match he is going to go easy against winston
Winston, you are fearless! I wish I had your forehand.
Match was more competitive than score would indicate.
I didn’t know you had a little brother. Thanks to him for doing the Betterhelp commercial!
Come to Vegas with some matchplay!
Nice! Great collab!
Yo Winston, when was the last time you restrung that 2013 aeropro drive because those strings sounded pretty dead. A fresh restring will bring that racquet back to life! I've always got one sitting in my bad for fun haha.
Winston you have come a long way. Playing very well. Tiny bit more and I think you’ll be taking games off these top guys like Jon
i love the advice at the end, much better than the advice the randoms give in the comments. Easy to give advice when you arent the one on the court
Winston, your backhand is much improved and your forehand had really good shape. When you're playing someone as good as ChangBang, you need free points. I would start incorporating more serves into your practice. If you can get a couple of free or +1 points a game, your outcome would be 8-4 versus 8-0. But 8-4 would push you to a 5.0 level player. I would also work on sprints. Your footwork is pretty good, but you, like all of us mere mortals, get heavy in the legs as the match progresses.
The tip Chang gave at the end is super helpful.
Absolutely. I just played a singles set against someone much better and Jon's tip would have helped me a lot. I made way too many errors going for too much. Winston had some great points though as well as an ace and an awesome serve +1.
I' noticed your second serves are often quite close to the lines. You don't see even pros aim so close to the lines and thats maybe a change that can help reduce unforced errors
Well done Winston - you hit an ace 😆 really enjoyable content 👍
Winston, great tennis overall! Jon's footwork and positioning is so strong that it's hard to resist going for more on each shot. Great work tho!
A great player and a very nice and constructive advice which is suitable for all.
@8:33 I think you double faulted because you didnt move that first fault ball out of the way xD
Koepler and Eubanks are solid atp pros 🙌
12:34 - More of this, Winston!
returns & backhands looking real good these days, winston
Great content! Only advice I would give Winston is take a good amount of time to work on your serve. I can see in most of your matches you don’t put much on the serve and most people return it pretty easily. If you get more aggressive on your serve and can put more pressure on the returner and when you’re on return Winston you won’t have to work so hard always playing catch up.
Nice hitting man! Love the content 🎉
Great job Winston!!! You did amazing against an ex pro.
winston u have all the shots i can see u playing pro in a couple of years if you keep working at it
Nice try Winston 😂
Dude I feel you play much much better than a few month ago.
W for the Chang bang community
at 7:57 Winston takes 12 tiny steps getting to the ball,...is that a strategy?, most players will take longer strides, but I noticed that Winston does the tiny-step strategy frequently.
Pro tip: Work on your backhand to improve consistency and power and so that you stop running around balls for the forehand. Unless you have Nadal's forehand, you won't make it very far past 4.5 USTA running around easy backhands. I know he was taking it easy on you, but this is just a general tip coming from a former blue chip ;)
ChangBang tennis looks like Asian Kobe in a weird way..
Hello Winston can you pls do tennis tutorials
not sure if people would like that kind of content from me
The Winston Du and MTHQ series of lessons are literally the way I learned to play tennis. You should check them out. Really good content. From service to mind set they walk you thru the whole game.
Ps “I am a 4.5 so average club player”? Come on man, the average hacker like myself is a 2.5, 3.0 at best.
@@jamesmckinnon9473 okay thanks btw where do you live maybe we can play
Beautiful video as usual! Winston, on most of your shots, only one foot is on the ground, that makes you loose power.
Yes but lose, not loose. Loose is what he should be when he’s playing lol.
I still play with my 07 aeropro. Stick with the 100 frame Winston. You really hit through with pop instead of too much spin. Add a strip or two of lead take at 3/9 to get more stability and control to hit down the line with more confidence
How long have you’ve been playing. Also you sure your not a 5.0 USTA cause it looks like it. Keep it up your doing a good job!
Good hitting Winston
What equipment do you do for your camera setup?
Apple Vision Pro
I see Winston falling backwards and not stepping into his shots, which caused them to drop into the net.
Winston
I believe a lot of the shots you hit would be outright winner against recreational players
But the difference here is that your opponent was a former pro with incredible ball recognition and footwork to defend!
Living the life :)
4.0 here want to play a game ? Been watching you for years now. Irvine native. Show the audience what a normal player against you looks like 😅
Why is your shirt on inside out after the match?
“Taking foot off gas pedal” would totally negate the point of this video.
Jon has great wheels for an “old” guy.
wow no mercy for the host XD
Nice to see a drop shot attempt 👌
Nice game bro 👍😎
Does he use blade 100 or 98 didn't say
I like his videos he has nice details
i have high hopes for you in 2146
Nice..👍👍🎾
You need Hermont to give you some serving lessons.
Nice Content Winston. I want to fly down to do a collab with you!!! let me know if your down! I was teammates with Toni and Ivan at USF!!!
The underarm serve 😂😂😂😂
Winston would have done much better had he used his regular 98 sq in. I feel like the forehand misses esp early in the set was due to the 100 sq in's lesser plowthrough. Enjoyed watching the game. Keep it up, Winston.
Winston you looked like 10+ UTR out there!! Need little more polishing but the strokes and aggression is in the right direction!!
Inexperience playing on this level is the only difference, one or two points per game and it’s 8-0 that’s all
Keep it up, stick with the APD !!!
You got much tougher after working with Karue.
Wow 45 pounds. If you were using the soft Hyper G would you still string at 45?
Should've started every game with 30-0 lead like you used to with those big-dog players. John was already easy on you.
You played very solid Winston despite the score. Lots of Chang points was because you kind rush the short ball. Maybe just control little more to build up a better opportunity
I think you play better with the 100sq. Shots are looking heavy!
Hey Winston, feels like you've been struggling with your confidence lately, is that fair to say?
You are improving. Just need to play a bit more relaxed on the short balls and you will hold your serve more frequently.
Winston, I can see that you tried everything, including an underarm serve 😅
Jaja are you still afraid of mine?
you should play jon's twin brother
johno!!
Blame it on the Racket
don't use 100 sq. inch it will wobble, use 98/97 sq. inch.
The 4.5 vs Pro level player videos are hard to watch. Would be nice if you stuck with 4.0-5.0 players or people with similar UTR.
You may want to try not taking such a large backswing on your forehand. If you compare with ChangBang you'll see he doesn't take such a large swing. It doesn't look like you're getting any more power, and you're losing control. I think it's more "fun" to swing with a big backswing, but if you want to improve.... Ironically your friend did a video on this: ua-cam.com/video/a5cQqfBOvRM/v-deo.html
I actually think you lost badly because your shirt is on backward/inside-out. ;)
yeah whoops lol
You played well, Winston. Hey, are you wearing your shirt inside out?? If so, why?
accident lol
Blade 98 or 100
Win Du You're easy well over 7.0