"The Other 9/11": Ariel Dorfman on 50th Anniversary of U.S.-Backed Coup in Chile That Ousted Allende

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  • Опубліковано 8 гру 2024
  • We look at the 50th anniversary of what is sometimes called the "other 9/11" - the U.S.-backed coup in Chile, when General Augusto Pinochet ousted President Salvador Allende and inaugurated almost two decades of brutal military rule. Allende died in the presidential palace on September 11, 1973, marking the end of Chile's first socialist government. During Pinochet's military dictatorship, more than 3,000 people were disappeared or killed, and some 40,000 more were tortured as political prisoners as Chile remained a close partner to the United States during the Cold War. "We're still living in some sense under the shadow of Pinochet, and of course we're living under the gigantic light … of Salvador Allende," says renowned Chilean writer Ariel Dorfman, who served as a cultural adviser to Allende from 1970 to 1973 before going into exile following the coup. His latest novel, "The Suicide Museum", explores the mystery around Allende's death and whether it was a suicide or murder.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 809

  • @seansmith3058
    @seansmith3058 Рік тому +139

    After America's 9/11 there was a widespread headline: "Why do they hate us?"
    Chile's 9/11 and the events like it give you part of the answer.

    • @marieromain1076
      @marieromain1076 Рік тому +19

      Go further down in history.
      HAITI 🇭🇹 1915...

    • @24299
      @24299 Рік тому +3

      True.

    • @godoffuckyou
      @godoffuckyou Рік тому +1

      And the fact it was called ground zero. taking over the names of the original ground zeros, Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

    • @gmw3083
      @gmw3083 Рік тому

      Ukraine 2014. DC is already looking for a way out of its latest failed exploit. Blaming its flunkies in the Keeve regime.
      Russians, ukronotzees, and everyone from everywhere are already inside the belly of the beast. Americas homeland security surveillance state won't know what hit it....

    • @EyFmS
      @EyFmS Рік тому +5

      "Hate" is a strong word to use for people in Latin America.
      If it was hate coming from South America you would have terrorists attacks done by Chileans, Argentinians, Brazilians and more. Ironically one of the largest Chilean diasporas is located in the USA. I think it's more disappointment coming from a country that was supposed to have the same values of emancipation, liberty, justice and despise for imperialism.
      But i suppose time changes...

  • @ADAMSIXTIES
    @ADAMSIXTIES Рік тому +130

    I attended a 15th anniversary in 1988 at St. Ann's church in The Bronx. Now it's 50 years since the kissinger-nixon-pinochet coup and the former is still here age 100, and not in prison for war crimes.

    • @patricktutu5844
      @patricktutu5844 Рік тому +14

      He ( Kissinger ) even won the Nobel Prize for Peace ie. The Nobel Peace Prize.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +9

      So did Barack.

    • @boontan1039
      @boontan1039 Рік тому

      ​@@patricktutu58440A1 ²p

    • @24299
      @24299 Рік тому +4

      Exactly. How many more are they responsible more? Too many to count. Many we know nothing of. It's not right. And their reasons are B.S.

    • @jakepistolero
      @jakepistolero Рік тому +4

      American-pinochet
      Why must most americans refuse reponsabiity for their gov??

  • @Juan-ud3if
    @Juan-ud3if Рік тому +87

    How Many Children, their Fathers, Siblings and Mothers has Kissinger Slaughtered in his 100 Years. Does he Fear his Grave?

    • @cracktower3613
      @cracktower3613 Рік тому +13

      Oh, you got that right Jaun. 🍀 Thank you, Needed to be said - Again, 🌎 thank you.

    • @polarfamily6222
      @polarfamily6222 Рік тому

      What your fear are facts. You must really defend terrorists.

    • @AliceBowie
      @AliceBowie Рік тому

      Antisemite

    • @JJsabenada
      @JJsabenada Рік тому +6

      He should

    • @louisgonzalez8846
      @louisgonzalez8846 Рік тому +5

      I wish kissinger lives a lllloooonnnnnnhhhhh life,
      and never has a peaceful nite.!!

  • @patrickgoldsmith4407
    @patrickgoldsmith4407 Рік тому +146

    I was friends with Ralph Dungan's kids- after he left Chile & became Chancelor of Education in NJ. As Ambassador to Chile, he was against the coup d'état. MANY Americans were against the coup. Kissinger has much blood on his hands.

    • @chuckdeezy_313
      @chuckdeezy_313 Рік тому +32

      America has a way of things.... cover up and ignore things hoping people forget and facts get forgotten

    • @manfredneilmann4305
      @manfredneilmann4305 Рік тому +29

      He should be treated as a war criminal despite his age!

    • @Mohammadreza-rp8oh
      @Mohammadreza-rp8oh Рік тому +21

      Kissinger in Vietnam too...

    • @Mohammadreza-rp8oh
      @Mohammadreza-rp8oh Рік тому +16

      And inn iran we had this 3 week before 911 in 1953🇺🇸🇮🇷

    • @ronaldturner4849
      @ronaldturner4849 Рік тому +1

      Interestingly I'm also remembering how Putin poignantly reminded America, not long ago, about the American army's sadistic massacre, at Wounded Knee, of an entire community of innocent unarmed Native people, women, children, elderly, the disabled, and babies, already captured and helpless in front of the Gatling guns of the US military. Putin properly shamed and disgraced America by pointing out how our country does not come to the negotiating table with clean hands!

  • @lynnpallais4132
    @lynnpallais4132 Рік тому +92

    Shame on us for so many things, Iran 1950s, Chile 1970s etc. Central American countries OMG

    • @andrewlong4894
      @andrewlong4894 Рік тому

      shame on us for the negatives...maybe some people should give thanks and praise for the positives which far out numbers the negatives BUT you will not see or hear ANY about them here or while the Left controls the message and narratives

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +16

      Ukraine 2014.

    • @araa767
      @araa767 Рік тому +12

      Pakistan 2022

    • @Johnconno
      @Johnconno Рік тому +3

      Your governments can't help themselves and you won't stop them or their friends.

    • @monicasmith923
      @monicasmith923 Рік тому +2

      Africa

  • @sarahtelles1931
    @sarahtelles1931 Рік тому +18

    The far right need to no longer have any say in any country.

    • @romanboxing3959
      @romanboxing3959 Рік тому +3

      Andddddd……the far left can’t. Like in Chile 😂

    • @sarahtelles1931
      @sarahtelles1931 Рік тому +1

      @@romanboxing3959 the far left is way different than the far right, I think you meant centrists

  • @rdsyafriyar
    @rdsyafriyar Рік тому +46

    "Workers of my country, I have faith in Chile and its destiny. Other men will overcome this dark and bitter moment when treason seeks to prevail. Keep in mind that, much sooner than later, great avenues will again be opened, through which will pass the free man, to construct a better society." - Salvador Allende 🇨🇱

    • @josedejesustorresmunoz588
      @josedejesustorresmunoz588 Рік тому +5

      👏👏👏 It sounds like his last famous words minutes before being murdered…👏👏👏👏💪🏼🇨🇱

    • @ivanohemartin
      @ivanohemartin Рік тому +1

      "I will pay with my life the loyalty of the People"- Salvador Allende 🇨🇱

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater Рік тому +1

      Chileans should respect individual rights. @@ivanohemartin

  • @Mullins20
    @Mullins20 Рік тому +13

    Nations, too, reap what they sow. Justifiably. America will never learn the concept of humility. There's no good ending for such an arrogant nation. It is slowly decaying.

    • @LUIS-ox1bv
      @LUIS-ox1bv Рік тому

      Rubbish. Was it arrogant for America to storm the beaches of Normandy, France and turn the tide of the War in Europe? As a nation, America is statistically among the most genorest and beneficent in terms of financial and material aid to other countries and peoples in less fortunate circumstances. Your hatred and bias, has been rewarded with blind ignorance. In such a state, you too will fall.

  • @marieromain1076
    @marieromain1076 Рік тому +36

    THANKS. Democracy NOW for continuing to EDUCATE.

    • @MuddyPoppins
      @MuddyPoppins Рік тому

      More like propagating lies.🤡🌎

    • @andrewlong4894
      @andrewlong4894 Рік тому

      riiiiight, to CONTINUE to do something you have to be already doing it. 98% of Democracy Now is propaganda, false narratives and lies supporting their obvious agenda which is to manipulate the American people and destroy America from the inside.

    • @stephenjohnson5121
      @stephenjohnson5121 Рік тому +5

      Pro Marxist propaganda, not Education

    • @marieromain1076
      @marieromain1076 Рік тому

      @@stephenjohnson5121 DOWN with the malignant tumor, destroying our civilization., IMPERIALISM....

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater Рік тому

      green marxism@@stephenjohnson5121

  • @NoCults4Moi
    @NoCults4Moi Рік тому +41

    May Chile never be forgotten just the same as those lost in Manhattan on that Tuesday morning.

    • @d.bcooper2271
      @d.bcooper2271 Рік тому +1

      Liberal modernists and feminists will feign outrage, but their moral system is what creates this situation.
      Liberal principles of individual choice, female empowerment, and destruction of patriarchy create a society of people who have no family to take care of them in their old age.
      The liberal feminist solution to this problem is to create more welfare programs. What this means is that they want the elderly to live alone in what are essentially pods, their only human interaction being with "care" takers to check if they're still alive once a week.
      Let me put it like this. The only human solution is for the elderly to be surrounded by loving family in their old age. The only way to get that is patriarchy, gender roles, and other limitations on individual freedom. But the liberal mind cannot allow any of that. So the elderly will continue to suffer and liberal feminists and modernists will continue to pretend like they care about humanity.

    • @ecoRfan
      @ecoRfan Рік тому +9

      Both 9/11’s took place on a Tuesday

    • @godoffuckyou
      @godoffuckyou Рік тому

      the equivalent of all lives matter.

    • @marieromain1076
      @marieromain1076 Рік тому +3

      May all terrorist attacks. In all forms, NEVER BE FORGOTTEN.........

    • @d.bcooper2271
      @d.bcooper2271 Рік тому +1

      @@ecoRfan COMPARE THESE TWO ARGUMENTS
      "Islam endorses war (jihad) to impose its law (Sharia) across the world. Therefore Islam approves killing people across the world. Muslims are dangerous - your Muslim neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local McDonalds."
      _"Liberalism endorses war (e.g., colonialism, humanitarian intervention, military occupation) to impose its law (international human rights law) across the world. Therefore liberalism approves killing people across the world. Liberals are dangerous - your liberal neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local mosque."_
      Why do so many idiots find the first argument logical and compelling, while they find the second argument illogical and absurd? Aren't both arguments illogical and absurd?
      *Do you want to know why the US is broke and subject to an increasingly totalitarian surveillance regime?*
      It is because the American people allowed themselves to be duped by absurd arguments into endorsing the "Global War on Terrorism" - spending 8 trillion dollars and agreeing to give the government unlimited surveillance/policing powers in the name of "fighting terrorism/extremism" as characterized by the first argument above..

  • @RoguePr1nc355
    @RoguePr1nc355 Рік тому +107

    "If you believe enough in democracy now, and tomorrow, and the future, then you will be able to defeat the dictators of now, tomorrow and the future" -Ariel Dorfman, beautiful statement!

    • @AlternateKek
      @AlternateKek Рік тому

      denocracy is a false god

    • @peterp5889
      @peterp5889 Рік тому +4

      Ariel is great man and today is the day devoted to Allende's Spirit and message*

    • @d.bcooper2271
      @d.bcooper2271 Рік тому

      ​@@peterp5889COMPARE THESE TWO ARGUMENTS
      "Islam endorses war (jihad) to impose its law (Sharia) across the world. Therefore Islam approves killing people across the world. Muslims are dangerous - your Muslim neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local McDonalds."
      _"Liberalism endorses war (e.g., colonialism, humanitarian intervention, military occupation) to impose its law (international human rights law) across the world. Therefore liberalism approves killing people across the world. Liberals are dangerous - your liberal neighbor literally wants to knife your little daughter and then blow up the local mosque."_
      Why do so many idiots find the first argument logical and compelling, while they find the second argument illogical and absurd? Aren't both arguments illogical and absurd?
      *Do you want to know why the US is broke and subject to an increasingly totalitarian surveillance regime?*
      It is because the American people allowed themselves to be duped by absurd arguments into endorsing the "Global War on Terrorism" - spending 8 trillion dollars and agreeing to give the government unlimited surveillance/policing powers in the name of "fighting terrorism/extremism" as characterized by the first argument above..

    • @curtrice6060
      @curtrice6060 Рік тому +2

      I am a freedom fighter. I’ve lost every battle, for the last 80 years.😢 The oligarchs always win 😫🤪😫👿 !

    • @peterp5889
      @peterp5889 Рік тому +1

      @@curtrice6060 this time they're going to lose I give you a Word of God for it! And it shall come to pass

  • @zombiehampster1397
    @zombiehampster1397 Рік тому +19

    Ah Kissinger. That monster casts a looooong shadow. We'll be in it for some time. And he lives to a 100+....why? lol no justice and no karma imo.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +1

      He's on Zelensky's " Mirotvorets " kill list.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater Рік тому

      Kissinger planned this war with Putin. They met over 14 times. @@tatianalyulkin410

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      Kissinger was working for Nixon, but nobody criticise Nixon. Extrange!

  • @ivanohemartin
    @ivanohemartin Рік тому +16

    "I will pay with my life the loyalty of the People"- Salvador Allende 🇨🇱

  • @ericquiabazza2608
    @ericquiabazza2608 Рік тому +20

    Funnily enough, as an Uruguayan i hear the suicidal tale more, as is the more inpactfull.
    Yet never trought it as a lesser act, as i know, if he was arrested he would be pupeter or humiliated as an example.
    He daying by his own hand, mark to me the steel of his soul and rebel determination

    • @RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj
      @RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj Рік тому

      Lo hubieran asesinado igual. Hay grabaciones en Pinochet lo platea... " se va en avión y este tiene un accidente..."

    • @johnnotrealname8168
      @johnnotrealname8168 4 місяці тому

      Nope, just suicide.

  • @keensab
    @keensab Рік тому +15

    Throughout my life, I have been in and out of Chile. I know how the upper, middle class and let's include the arriviste, think. Yes, it is a left versus right struggle but over there, it's mainly a class struggle. The class system is so deeply ingrained that it would be safe to say that there are two Chiles. The aversion to socialism by the well-to-do was ingrained in the social system. Of course, the powers that be, beyond our borders took advantage of this fact and became victorious because of it. I am a centrist (not neutral) therefore it allows me to see things without the blinders of extremism. The elimination of Allende and the progressive implementations of Pinochet's "Chicago Boys" have altered the Chilean identity. Chile has been a commercial hub where the love of money overtakes any social mores that made Chile unique. I grieve for what Chile has become.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +1

      I'll let Uncle Ari talk about Chile. She is the love of my life but I'm Ukrainian- first and foremost. What I wanna say is this. What Uncle Ari calls " the dictators " and what I " lovingly " call the Blake Association doesn't care one bit about how " a- political " you are, how loyal to Soros and Co you are- if it suits their purpose they're gonna turn on you on a dime. I need them to really understand that. In 2013 before the coup I was literally doing " What Is In My Bag " on UA-cam. Didn't " save " me or my loved ones.

    • @RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj
      @RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj Рік тому +3

      Tienes todo la razón, vivo aquí y observó lo mismo. La identidad nacional y la valoración de la democracia son dos valores medios perdidos, se valora solamente el "éxito" económico, la plata fácil. Sin embargo no está todo perdido ya qué vi mucha gente joven en la conmemoración de esta triste fecha. Muchos no olvidamos y queremos saber más sobre este complot contra la democracia.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater Рік тому

      Socialism will fix this. LOL

  • @ReelNotFake
    @ReelNotFake Рік тому +8

    I've been looking for a novel about Allende. Thanks for this!

  • @Juan-ud3if
    @Juan-ud3if Рік тому +36

    How can Human's Do Such Unspeakable Cruel things to Fellow Human Beings? It's Just not Justifiable. We're All Humans, We Share this Small Beautiful Ball of a Planet. Why do we have to Destroy Everything, All Human Beings, All Life. Why Can't We All Live in Peace and Share the World ?

    • @grovepeate3316
      @grovepeate3316 Рік тому +5

      Why don't you ask Planned Parenthood,Joe Stalin,Mao,Hitler,Or any President from LBJ to Biden.

    • @YUMLiberalTears
      @YUMLiberalTears Рік тому

      How can people speak like their sentence is one long book title? Probably a better question for you to be asking.

    • @manfredneilmann4305
      @manfredneilmann4305 Рік тому

      ​@@grovepeate3316You mention figures like Hitler and Stalin along with Planned Parenthood? Are you kidding?

    • @Politics-ww5sc
      @Politics-ww5sc Рік тому

      @@grovepeate3316 Planned parenthood, the number on killer of black lives. Planned parenthood has more kills than all of them added together.

    • @outerlimitz67
      @outerlimitz67 Рік тому

      The Human Race Must be Put down

  • @RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj
    @RoxanaAlfaro-mf4xj Рік тому +3

    Gracias, Ariel, desde Chile.

  • @chukwumaoriuwa281
    @chukwumaoriuwa281 Рік тому +18

    This is how USA promotes democracy

    • @louisgonzalez8846
      @louisgonzalez8846 Рік тому

      For usa democracy = dictatorship. That is their mantra.!!

    • @JB-dx7fk
      @JB-dx7fk 5 місяців тому

      Being anti-communist? I view that as a win win

  • @MrDXRamirez
    @MrDXRamirez Рік тому +85

    “ The Battle of Chile” is a live documentary film shot at the time of the actual coup. Incredible documentary.
    Costa Gavras’s “Missing” , adapts Ed Horton’s story of his son, Charles Horton, killed in Chile during the coup...a chilling film....must see. Ed Horton, a Manhattan native, was played by Jack Lemmon. I saw these movies in 70s and never forgot them.

  • @thomasctteo6868
    @thomasctteo6868 Рік тому +5

    WE FEEL YOUR PAIN ..
    MAY THINGS TURN AROUND N GETS BETTER N BETTER FOR CHILE.
    A NATION SO UNJUSTLY RAVAGED BY UNCONSCIONABLE N PEOPLE OF GREAT MALICE.
    MAY GOD BLESS ..

  • @dstuart5612
    @dstuart5612 Рік тому +1

    Thank you. Keep getting truth out. Love from Scotland.

  • @sorinm.popovici7842
    @sorinm.popovici7842 Рік тому +7

    The original 9/11, never to be forgotten.

  • @andrewsullivan7753
    @andrewsullivan7753 Рік тому +8

    Wow what a profound interview! What happened to Allende was very sad, I guess the world just wasn't ready for him.

    • @juanleahy2202
      @juanleahy2202 Рік тому +5

      I find it hard to accept that Allende killed himself. He had a family & many supporters in Chile. Would it not be very convenient for Pinoche & the military to say that he had killed himself as opposed to being murdered in the coup d’etat! RIP all those who were killed as supporters of Allende.

    • @chloeuntrau4588
      @chloeuntrau4588 Рік тому +1

      @@juanleahy2202 I am sure he was murdered.

    • @sammyo2583
      @sammyo2583 Рік тому +1

      @@chloeuntrau4588 there are some serious questions that needs to be answered. The initial report was that he short himself,but
      Luis Ravanal has been studying the autopsy for four years, and he believes otherwise.
      Ravanal says he found details in the autopsy that weren't in line with the official version of Allende's death. The cranium, he says, shows evidence of a first shot with a small gun, like a pistol, and then, a second shot from a larger weapon - like an AK-47 - which could mean that Allende was shot and killed, then shot a second time with his own gun, to make it look like suicide.

    • @tuckerbugeater
      @tuckerbugeater Рік тому

      keep on obsessing about irrelevant nonsense@@sammyo2583

    • @sorinm.popovici7842
      @sorinm.popovici7842 Рік тому

      Aka, the US.

  • @liaotang1011
    @liaotang1011 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for teaching us about the other 9/11 ❤

  • @cob4467
    @cob4467 Рік тому +9

    Terrible day for the USA . R.I.P

    • @N3oNexus_FKA_J4VASCR1PT
      @N3oNexus_FKA_J4VASCR1PT Рік тому +3

      EVEN more terrible for Chile, the twin towers was only 1 day and 15 years of grief before people joked about it, Chile almost 30 years yet still grieving

  • @HeiligBauernhof
    @HeiligBauernhof Рік тому +1

    I did not know this...Thank you for making this public...

  • @leskuzyk2425
    @leskuzyk2425 Рік тому +6

    One of what, 20 or 30 U.S. America backed changes to democratically elected governments around the world?

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +2

      Yep. And now we have Ukraine. " Oops, we did it again! "

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      The soviets were doing the same thing. They got the tanks in Hungry and Checoslovaquia..
      The Chileans think they are unique. This has happens all the time, all over the world.

  • @greenthumb8266
    @greenthumb8266 Рік тому +8

    I was 8 minutes in to your Top US& World News September 11 2023 when the video was abruptly removed , just now.

    • @jzoobs
      @jzoobs Рік тому +2

      They took it down to issue a correction

    • @greenthumb8266
      @greenthumb8266 Рік тому +2

      @@jzoobs thank you

  • @LUISARAMOSCRICK
    @LUISARAMOSCRICK Рік тому +15

    I think of Chile often, and I remember this day every year. Pinochet's coup took place 7 months before we, in Portugal, had the carnation revolution, that freed us from 50 years of fascist dictatorship. So Chile was very much in our minds on April 25, 1974, and it still is.

  • @MrTee-de7to
    @MrTee-de7to Рік тому +23

    As an American citizen, I was so ashamed of our country. Our foreign policy at the time forced countries to turn to the Communists because it was our way or no way.

    • @MaxwellGriffin001
      @MaxwellGriffin001 Рік тому +1

      You're brainwashed. "our way" or "no way"...no, that's not true, and you know that because of all the countries in the world that do not do it "our way" or "communist way" and are doing fine and have lots of trade with our country and other countries. If you want, I can break down how much of what Ariel Dorfman is wrong, and I don't know if he just chooses to cherry pick to fit his narrative or if he's more active in rejecting verifiable facts which are there.

    • @ahoggan230
      @ahoggan230 Рік тому +1

      Makes you not want to vote democrat doesn't it

    • @codycigar6542
      @codycigar6542 Рік тому +1

      ​@@MaxwellGriffin001Didn't Allende's later years as president come with mass hyperinflation and supply shortages?

    • @Supertaldo916
      @Supertaldo916 Рік тому +6

      @@codycigar6542yes, once the CIA started to fund the Trucking Strikes and the artificial shortage of goods there was an economic recession.

    • @codycigar6542
      @codycigar6542 Рік тому

      @Supertaldo916 Cope. Allende's policies were shit.

  • @JuanGonzalez-hv6vs
    @JuanGonzalez-hv6vs Рік тому +12

    Governments can rule your life, and they will tell you what they want you to hear and know. This is the bottom line when it comes to governments.

  • @MookieDookie9000
    @MookieDookie9000 Рік тому +11

    Both events involved our government

  • @BestFitSquareChannel
    @BestFitSquareChannel Рік тому +4

    Remarkable… thank you… best wishes…

  • @dmars7264
    @dmars7264 Рік тому +5

    Kissinger is so evil.

  • @bituquinnabituquitan5686
    @bituquinnabituquitan5686 Рік тому +20

    I can blame the US government. I do.

    • @HughJass-313
      @HughJass-313 Рік тому +2

      The *United SNAKES* remains Undefeated 🔥🔥🔥

  • @Dani68ABminus
    @Dani68ABminus Рік тому +19

    Wonderful guest, thank you!

  • @sandyhardy3419
    @sandyhardy3419 Рік тому +11

    😢😢😢 I am 62 …this is eye opening …thank you for this report…

  • @rickc-137___
    @rickc-137___ Рік тому +8

    Today is nine eleven
    And the government still hasnt been
    Held accountable.

  • @patricktutu5844
    @patricktutu5844 Рік тому +3

    Ironically, Henry Kissinger won the Nobel Peace Prize.

  • @Mohammadreza-rp8oh
    @Mohammadreza-rp8oh Рік тому +5

    Both had same source: 911 newyork and 911 chile 🌐

  • @RebeccaTurner-ny1xx
    @RebeccaTurner-ny1xx Рік тому +3

    "Britain’s collaboration with the Chilean dictatorship continued in full knowledge of the atrocities being carried out by Pinochet’s torturers and executioners. The UK’s ambassador to Chile Reginald Secondé reported how “The extent of the bloodshed has shocked people,” but commented coldly of the repression, “the lack of political activity is, for the time being, no loss”."
    (WSWS)

  • @brianreagan2471
    @brianreagan2471 Рік тому +19

    Extraordinary story from Mr. Dorfman. Whoa! Well presented tale of his fulfilling of his legacy. I'm so glad DN is there to give these stories their due when all the other news sources can't be bothered. Love you guys. 😊

  • @williammayhoperights
    @williammayhoperights Рік тому +4

    no one commits suicide by shooting them selves 67 times in the back of the head![pausing twice to reload]. in Oregon we had a phrase 'murder by suicide' 'you have to serve somebody in the end, you will serve, it will be the truth and there will be hope, or a self serving lie, and damn yourself and humanity, but you will serve' quote, Roberta May Hope Caster, Hope under torture

  • @siamcharm7904
    @siamcharm7904 Рік тому +12

    my friend and classmate in hs and college charles horman was murdered by the cia during the overthrow.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +1

      My sincerest condolences. A dear friend of my godmother's, Jack Lemmon, played his father in the movie. And now we have another American- Gonzalo Lira in Ukraine- whose life is in danger for the same reason but Uncle Ari prefers to pretend that Gonzalo doesn't exist. Oh, well... Sooner or later everyone betrays everyone. And Dorfman was my hero. He and Michelle Bachelett. Guess not anymore.

    • @siamcharm7904
      @siamcharm7904 Рік тому +1

      @@tatianalyulkin410 we were real competitors at exeter and both played cello. praying for gonzalo. bachlelett was chased out of un for not supporting the uygher hoax.

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      The revolutions are not a joke. In France, during the French revolution, even the líder Roberspierre died in the guillotine at the end.

  • @jawless7616
    @jawless7616 Рік тому +5

    Why did you post world news headlines but then quickly remove it after 20 minutes?

  • @Dylanesque
    @Dylanesque Рік тому +3

    September 11, 1973. The death of democracy.

    • @JB-dx7fk
      @JB-dx7fk 5 місяців тому

      Communism* I fixed it for you. Despite that... The beginning of a interesting regime.

  • @araa767
    @araa767 Рік тому +3

    Nothing has changed actually, US is playing the same game elsewhere now, presently one of many US backed coup is ongoing in Pakistan, where a democratically elected prime minister was ousted by US backed military establishment, a renowned journalist was compelled to leave his country later assassinated in Kenya, another journalist is still missing probably kidnapped by pakistani intelligence agency, many journalist fled the country and taking asylum in West, more than 10s of thousands political prisoners in jails from months yet to be convicted, the only majority political party leadership is either forced in hiding in jail or disappeared, when all this is happening in one country the West and so called civilised human rights advocate countries are 🙈🙉🙊.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому

      Once again you're " conveniently " forgetting Ukraine.

    • @araa767
      @araa767 Рік тому

      @tatianalyulkin410 it's a tragedy of a nation when US topples a well functioning government and instate a weak, dependent, illegitimate ruler, they actual make the mockery of a nation that people don't matter, humans have no rights as long as a puppet is serving their interests he can do whatever he pleases, nowadays a comedian is playing role of a macho in Ukraine, what could be more ironic, they control the voice they control the views, we can just sit and watch whatever is shown to us.

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      This is been going on for thousand years, all over the world. It is nothing new.

    • @Retroicon13
      @Retroicon13 6 місяців тому +1

      This is what the US does. They have army bases all around the world yet they are so worried about china

  • @JillofAllTrades2
    @JillofAllTrades2 Рік тому +2

    Nice piece. Interesting about Dorfman.

  • @leonardoribas3387
    @leonardoribas3387 Рік тому +4

    Shame on the "democracy's herald" in the world!

    • @JB-dx7fk
      @JB-dx7fk 5 місяців тому

      And communists are better? Talk about hypocrisy and double standards of people that don't know the history... Or their own.

  • @dalpraned
    @dalpraned Рік тому +3

    Salvador Allende was murdered.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +1

      So? So was Paul Robeson. So was Victor Jara. So was Pablo Neruda. So was MLK. So was Malcolm X. So were my parents and my brother. Your point being?

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      For millenia kings and presidents have been murder. Who was Allende the mesager? They killed Jesus the mesager too.

  • @pq7605
    @pq7605 Рік тому +2

    Insightful discussion

  • @heinrichvon
    @heinrichvon Рік тому +2

    17:18 - I have to say that I think the obsession with whether Allende committed suicide or was murdered by the attackers of La Moneda is *bizarre*. Why is it dishonorable if Allende killed himself rather than be taken alive (as I believe he did)? Pinochet forces, before completing the coup, allegedly offered Allende safe passage to Cuba and he refused. One might argue (though I wouldn't) that exile under those circumstances would have been cowardly. But how can his determination to remain in the Palace until the very end be cowardly? It seems like a macho or even a Catholic thing to hold him in contempt for reacting to a hopeless situation by taking his own life. In any case, the important thing is the way Allende lived, not the circumstances of his death. For me, Allende was a hero, and whether his enemies killed him or whether he did the job himself is totally irrelevant.

    • @mauricioochoa4179
      @mauricioochoa4179 5 місяців тому +1

      Allende’s suicide was not cowardly. As he said before his death, he was not going to surrender. He chose death over fleeing the country or turning himself in to Pinochet’s forces.

  • @Africano-Oaxaqueno-Bandera
    @Africano-Oaxaqueno-Bandera Рік тому +8

    Chilean 9/11/1973 is not the other 9/11 it the original 9/11

  • @jodywho6696
    @jodywho6696 Рік тому +9

    Thank You Democracy Now. It's hard to see this. Can't imagine how hard it is to report it. ✨🇺🇸✨

    • @andrewlong4894
      @andrewlong4894 Рік тому

      It is not hard for them whatsoever

    • @JB-dx7fk
      @JB-dx7fk 5 місяців тому

      It's one sided. It's funny.

  • @kennethmorrison7689
    @kennethmorrison7689 Рік тому +3

    Creepy Miton Friedman went in person to Chile to oversee the coup.

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +2

      So? We had Nudelman and Piett. Grow up already my beloved Chile.

  • @TheEr910
    @TheEr910 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this history

  • @Dorothy47
    @Dorothy47 Рік тому +2

    Thatcher made remarks about the Queen dancing with a Black PM and was later voted out of office.
    Thatcher was a racist, she had been head of UK's Education system and she was known as " Margaret Thatcher the milk Snatcher " by British school children when she removed the half pint of milk they got with their school lunch.
    This inspired President Reagan to economize and take away a vegetable in the American school lunch program.He said ketchup was a vegtable so they didn't need another vegetable. Actually, tomato is designated as a fruit !
    Reagan also sent Tommy Sands to Thatcher and he went in a hunger strike and died in prison 61 pounds with his bones protruding out of his skin and had to be raped up.

    • @padajsiloinepravdo6299
      @padajsiloinepravdo6299 Рік тому +1

      I remember thatcher gave Pinochet asylum and saw her on tv saying how great Pinochet was for stopping communism. Rightoid ghouls stick together

    • @sobeitsky5091
      @sobeitsky5091 Рік тому

      us and uk are the devil on earth

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      What a load of rubbish!

  • @ChrisRD526
    @ChrisRD526 Рік тому +7

    The fact that Henry Kissinger is still alive at age 100 is really appalling.

  • @mikefobear589
    @mikefobear589 Рік тому +2

    Kissenger continues to be an American media star. Read about American Hisrory at the public library and it's a totally differant country. History class in Public and Catholic schools are extremely censored. America holds the worlds record for supporting / installing dictators...Not a tiny issue in American Tv industry.

  • @efrainlazos3060
    @efrainlazos3060 Рік тому +10

    Dorfman is a paradigm of lucidity in dark times

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому

      Not to me. He's in bed with the Ukrainian Nazis.

    • @romanboxing3959
      @romanboxing3959 Рік тому +1

      More like an evil commie thing. Communism is a dark abyss

    • @eliezerbenabraham6117
      @eliezerbenabraham6117 Рік тому

      .....lucidity..?........he is lunatic,a leftist...... ask his opinion about Cuba... Venezuela... Nicaragua...China &....Tibet... actually Hong Kong..... TAIWAN.....

  • @rmcf1947
    @rmcf1947 Рік тому +6

    Viva Allende

  • @claythomas7982
    @claythomas7982 Рік тому +4

    This was the CIA action.

  • @Andtuy
    @Andtuy Рік тому +1

    Si hablas español me gustaría invitarlos a este canal, cuba es humanidad. Nos gustaría poder debatir con ustedes. Estamos en vivo todas las tardes.

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      Muy bien. Yo les digo a todos estos que dicen ser comunistas, que vayan a Cuba, pero no, prefieren quedarse en países de la OTAN viviendo bajo la bota Yanky. Yo les digo que mienten y que no son nada, solo son unos mentirosos.

  • @MortonT1958
    @MortonT1958 Рік тому +6

    The interference in Chile was clearly a mistake on multiple levels. However, the magnitude of damage was far less than that caused by the NATO-led (US financed) intervention in Libya in 2011. Twelve years later Libya remains a failed state by any measure. Chile has an ex-pat community that keeps the Allende coup out in the global public’s eye, but in terms of scale and fatalities it is among the least costly compared to interventions in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Haiti, etc.

    • @blackeyedsusan727
      @blackeyedsusan727 Рік тому

      The "interference" in Chile cost millions of lives, directly and indirectly over decades to the present day. It forever changed Chile's destiny, and also further destabilised the entire LatAm region. The U.S. coup against this democratically-elected, pacifist president waa not the first of the U.S.' global atrocities, but rather a continuatuon of the horrors it had visited on LatAm alone (!) since the Monroe Doctrine.
      In sum, it's not a Victimhood Olympics. Regardless, every instance of U.S. greed, mayhem, and murder that has plagued those countries that have something of interest to the U.S. power base has been tragic and has lasting consequences for all of us.

  • @carlhohn4802
    @carlhohn4802 Рік тому +11

    To understand America is to understand this coup. America feels more and more foreign to me where everyone is out for themselfs and material gain is all that is offered. It is as if it is a lost soul.

    • @MayaX07
      @MayaX07 Рік тому +7

      This has always been America. Since it's founding.

  • @ronnieriveros6067
    @ronnieriveros6067 Рік тому +1

    TThe homer with the heart of gold.
    How abt talking what they did and what they r doing now. Hang the constitution so they can stay in power. This guy has no right to talk abt democracy. He is happy he is alive. Treator

  • @GeorgeJohnManouras
    @GeorgeJohnManouras Рік тому +2

    Proud American history 😢

  • @gladyg2026
    @gladyg2026 Рік тому +1

    I always ask myself how could Allende committed suicide when he had a rifle?
    For me he was killed by the army no body was there to be a witness so they can say whatever they want.

  • @betsydonato6817
    @betsydonato6817 Рік тому +4

    In memory of the 1973 Modoc protest and Tar Baby Act Hindsight 20 // 20 of a famous quote:
    Captain Jack 1837 - 73 Modoc War Chief
    I am but one man. I am the voice of my people. Whatever their hearts are, that I talk. I want no more war. I want to be a man. You deny me the right of a white man. My skin is red; my heart is a white mans heart; but i am a Modoc. I am not afraid to die. I will not fall on the rocks. When I die, my enemies will be under me. Your soldiers began on me when I was asleep on Lost River. They drove us to these rocks, like wounded deer...
    On himself, in Dee Brown, Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee.
    Courtesy of the Dictionary of Biographical Quotation Alfred A Knopf New York 1978.

  • @cesarnacho7630
    @cesarnacho7630 Рік тому +2

    Excelent info thanks guys for your hard work...we forgive but we don't forget..what the policies of the white house has done. To Mexico Centro America south America..... Jacobo Arves in Guatemala...

  • @YASER2Q
    @YASER2Q 2 місяці тому

    "You can cut all the flowers but you cannot keep spring from coming" Pablo Neruda

  • @josedejesustorresmunoz588
    @josedejesustorresmunoz588 Рік тому +2

    We’ll, I salute Dorfman for being critical of certain mistakes by the movement led by the great Salvador Allende, but he fails to be more critical of current US stands and mainstream stance against Latin American. Frankly speaking, I feel he’s become to Americanized and self indulged with his art form… At any rate, I still find him valuable in Academia for his overall body of work…, but somewhere he stopped being what Pablo Neruda aimed all his life: to “be Chilean in perpetuity”🇨🇱💪🏼👍

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому

      I know. He's silent on Ukraine. So is Michelle Bachelett. Oh, well...

  • @24299
    @24299 Рік тому +2

    Everyone conveniently forgets all the other coups. 😠

  • @casiandsouza7031
    @casiandsouza7031 Рік тому +1

    Coup is not the problem anymore than a weapon. They are means to an end. The problem is the motives for the end. I can't think of any American motives other than sheer greed.

  • @General_Proton
    @General_Proton Рік тому +4

    A moment of silence for the U.S. Constitution slayed by the PATRIOT ACT in 2003 and buried by the WHO in 2020.

    • @Guitarman7133
      @Guitarman7133 Рік тому

      YUP, AND MORE THAN THAT. TSA, DOT, HLS, ETC

  • @The_Slayer_1
    @The_Slayer_1 Рік тому +2

    So Americans did this over there and no one held for accountability and now Ukraine

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому

      Well, Kissinger is on the Mirotvorets. I know it's not much.

    • @The_Slayer_1
      @The_Slayer_1 Рік тому

      @@tatianalyulkin410 thank you got an opportunity to look into Kissinger and the Ukraine makeshift army

  • @andyarellanoChannel
    @andyarellanoChannel Рік тому +1

    isn't this what we have done in ukraine, syria, yemen, libya, venezuela and on and on

  • @lolalashy6522
    @lolalashy6522 Рік тому +1

    Democracy,, tells me what democracy is?

  • @jhonrydc110
    @jhonrydc110 Рік тому +3

    How is Kissinger still alive?

    • @meegz149
      @meegz149 Рік тому +3

      @jhonrydc110
      blood sacrifice. All the souls of dead Southeast Asians is keeping him alive.

    • @HughJass-313
      @HughJass-313 Рік тому +1

      @@meegz149
      🤣🤣

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому +1

      Because is not treated in Chilean hospitals.

  • @erickane7093
    @erickane7093 Рік тому +1

    Got to change the laws that have been systematically challenged and eroded by corporate lawyers, that where the pass not bars, to hold back the corporate beast.

  • @kevinarnett8590
    @kevinarnett8590 Рік тому +2

    The second 9 11 wtf this sounds crazy

    • @domgaar9933
      @domgaar9933 Рік тому

      It happened much earlier than 2001, it is not the second 9/11, hence the title “the other 9/11”

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      Their have been coup de etat always all over the world.
      The soviets with the tanks in Hungry and Checoslovaquia.
      Ask the African nations as well, about coups.

  • @oscarogada9410
    @oscarogada9410 3 місяці тому

    The world will not forget what a shame in Guatemala Chile and Congo

  • @martindowling9014
    @martindowling9014 Рік тому +2

    a guilty concience if there ever was one.A total lier perhaps writes decent prose perhaps but he betrayed his friend Alliende in 1973. i remember him very well in many many debates i had in germany and France.exile bollocks he was hiding yippie

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому

      Pinochet and the Krasnov clan were feeding people to sharks and crocodiles! Nobody in his right mind would blame him for being scared.

  • @ashebermulugata9
    @ashebermulugata9 Рік тому +3

    American imperialism must be checked severely. Long Live Salvador Allende. Long Live Socialism.

    • @tmnt10000
      @tmnt10000 Рік тому +1

      Then go live in North Korea or Cuba

    • @jo-annerichardson34
      @jo-annerichardson34 Рік тому +4

      @@tmnt10000 that's not socialism in those countries. Why are Americans so ignorant about what Communism, socialism, so called democracy in the US which it really isn't, and fascism, which is what the GOP is all about. Educate yourself.

  • @tylerbarbaree7007
    @tylerbarbaree7007 Рік тому +1

    Yeah, anti-war until you're not.

  • @greendesertgoddess
    @greendesertgoddess Рік тому +3

    It will take "The Shock Doctrine: . . ." by Naomi Klein to tell you all about it!

  • @hengee90
    @hengee90 Рік тому +7

    Why was the U.S. and World Headlines news video deleted?

  • @mikebarbeau8569
    @mikebarbeau8569 Рік тому +2

    There has to be a special place in hell for Henry the Kiss of Death Enger!!!

  • @1968dogg
    @1968dogg Рік тому +1

    "Democracy?" vs a Republic. Ask Ancient Rome...................

  • @alexisquevedo9214
    @alexisquevedo9214 Рік тому

    I was bien in 1973 and grew in the dictaorship, I saw the change of administrativo and I can tell you that no thing has changed in Chile. If you go out to street to fight for your rights police and military will kill you as they did in the past. Boric is part of the rich people who rule the country.

  • @contractorvegas5384
    @contractorvegas5384 Рік тому

    The country with the most interceptors that did not intercept

  • @aanchaallllllll
    @aanchaallllllll Рік тому

    0:22: 🌎 Today marks the 50th anniversary of the US-backed coup in Chile that ousted President Salvador Allende and led to the brutal Pinochet dictatorship.
    4:00: 📚 The speaker recalls how they narrowly avoided being at La Moneda during the coup in 1973.
    7:40: 🇨🇱 The speaker discusses the ongoing struggle in Chile to remember the coup and the legacy of Pinochet, and the refusal of right-wing parties to sign a declaration condemning the coup.
    11:23: 🌎 The speaker discusses the importance of Allende's example and the threat it posed to US interests in Latin America during the Cold War.
    14:20: 🌎 The impact of the Pinochet years in Chile spread to other countries in Latin America, leading to military and extreme right-wing governments seizing power.
    18:10: 📚 The author created a character based on himself to explore the story of Chile without the limitations of history.
    21:56: 📚 The video discusses the enigma and suspense surrounding the characters in the novel, with a focus on the journey of two men and the empowerment of women.
    Recap by Tammy AI

  • @soyroberto2527
    @soyroberto2527 Рік тому +2

    Let's call it the original September 11

  • @labspeciman7402
    @labspeciman7402 Рік тому +1

    So you tone down the American 9/11 by bringing up someting unrelated? This is very tacky. Maybe you should interrupt to talk about the slaughter of Native Americans. Maybe slavery. Anything to lessen the importance of the attacks on the trade centers. Maybe you could have done the stories an hour apart.

  • @diegomontoya796
    @diegomontoya796 Рік тому +2

    Venezuela is a socialist democracy.
    Glad we didn't interfere with that successful revolution.

    • @ArleeStarr-l6e
      @ArleeStarr-l6e Рік тому

      A bit of irony there. Is there a democracy that was not interfered with, or overthrown by the U.S. because it wanted to keep its natural resources for the benefit of its citizens?

    • @louisgonzalez8846
      @louisgonzalez8846 Рік тому +1

      Believe me diego, THEY TRIED.!!!!!!

    • @alejandrogm1588
      @alejandrogm1588 Рік тому

      ​@@louisgonzalez8846🤡

    • @javiermonforte8264
      @javiermonforte8264 Рік тому

      Venezuela is a poor country now, with 5 million refugees.
      I don't like socialist countries.
      I don't like poverty.

    • @JB-dx7fk
      @JB-dx7fk 5 місяців тому

      Funny a lot flocked to Chile. Perhaps Venezuela needs a Pinochet to set things right.

  • @bonitaroache73
    @bonitaroache73 Рік тому +9

    The real question to ask after 2001;
    What's the proper Role of Government in our Lives after the fact?!

  • @martinsifuentes6585
    @martinsifuentes6585 Рік тому +4

    Pinochet was the Zelensky of that time.
    Right?

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому +1

      Yes. Of course our Uncle Ari doesn't think so. He's against the evil Putin. 🤣

    • @tatianalyulkin410
      @tatianalyulkin410 Рік тому

      Like the first comment I got on Dorfman's board was " You're Putin's troll. " In 2014 the FBI was trying to convince me I was Victor Jara's troll.

  • @marcsongaudin8429
    @marcsongaudin8429 Рік тому

    ICC did you hear that ?Kessinger is a war and then he’s alive. It’s never too late for Justice.

  • @MarthaDominguez-i1p
    @MarthaDominguez-i1p Рік тому +1

    Is the first time I hear this version of the suicide Allende said- I am not moving from my position they will have to kill me! the suicide version as usual