This is NONAGONA Beat Me - Woodturning the Impossible Beech Bowl
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
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In this video, I take on the challenge of turning a nonagonal (nine-sided) bowl from a beautiful piece of beech wood (which has quite a few problems) Watch as I work through the difficulties and triumphs of creating this unique shape on the lathe. Can this tricky project beat me? Tune in to see how it all turns out! This is a woodturning adventure you won't want to miss, featuring tips, techniques, and the final reveal of the stunning nonagonal bowl.
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That was spectacular! I enjoyed watching you turn this old piece of scrap wood into a beautiful keepsake. Look at the shimmer on the face. It Takes my breath away 💗 Good on you!
@@susanholiday7347 thanks Susan 😃
That would look lovely with some dry Autumn leaves laid on it.❤❤😊
I do like that idea, thanks 😀
Here is what seems to have happened.
The facing wood is cross grain. Scrapers and carbide tools cut cross-grain (like cutting a steak with a knife)
Gouges cut with the grain / end grain upward.
You get chip out trying to cut end grain with a knife / scraper, or cross grain with a gouge.
The platter face was cross grain.
Most of you projects are end grain up
Mike super well done, i was gutted about the rotted section but you overcome it with a passion, i think the end result is amazing,
Kind regards From Will 👍 😊
Thanks so much Will and thanks again for sending through 😃
@@MikeHolton your very welcome, I'll try and pick a better piece next time 🤣
A beautiful piece of wood. I loved the one you did too. Your ability to get so many lovely blanks is explained. Tree surgeon, eh?
@racheldray1057 thank you kindly 👍😊
@@William_Kenny 🤣 yes please lol 😃
Love the shape of this bowl. Beautiful grain! I don't mean to sound mean, but I do love to see how you handle things that mess up on you. BTW, love your shirt that says something like "It's probably a bad idea, but I'm going to do it anyway." LOL. And thank you for this extra episode. Look forward to your Tuesday releases. ❤
Thank you very much Lori, I love the wood that make me think, I love problem solving 😃
Always fun to watch you duel with the idiosyncrasies of organic matter.
Haha thanks Jake 😃
Smaller versions of that bowl would be wonderous salad bowls! Cheryl frim Jacksonville FL
It would, thanks Cheryl 😀
Another great video. I like how you do not let anything stand in your way of creating a beautiful piece.
It is one thing to learn how to turn but how did you learn to produce a video?
Would it have made a difference if you had made the other side the bowel instead of the bottom.
Lovely piece mike , would make a great cheese platter .
Thanks Robert, I'm thinking that's what we will be using it for 😁
I apologize in advance, but that nonagon was no day at the beech. 😊
Hahahaha 😂
Haha thanks Penny, best comment yet 😃
Or, life's a beech?
@@elisabethroberts3650 🤣
I prefer to think it is a bowl of cherry.
Looks great love the grain 😊
The shape is unusual, not the normal symmetrical stuff. Love the dynamic problem solving, and thought processes. Another lovely piece.
Thanks so much Simon, I'm just glad we got it to the end 😀
Very cool piece. I like the shape it's different and different is always good. Keep up the amazing work. 👽
Thank you very much my dear friend 😀
Fantastic piece, Mike. Was rooting for you! (Ouch). Congrats and thanks on the Woodworkers Guild sponsorship. I've no intention to swap from fabric and watercolors to wood, but will enjoy learning for home repairs.
Thank you very much Elizabeth, I really appreciate it 😃
Thanks Mike. Really great effort. Cheers, Dave, Beachmere, Brisbane, Queensland. Australia
Glad you enjoyed it Dave 😊
Love watching you resolve problems on the go to get the best out of the wood. A very useful and unique piece, Mike. Love it.
Glad you enjoy it Barry and thanks 😀
Nice work 🙌 Would you ever consider burning the rotten part away, making it a nice feature? I think it would have looked kind of cool with the pitch black charred part in contrast to the lighter wood. Just a thought 🤔❤
Hi Tom, that is a really interesting idea which I may explore the next time I get the opportunity. Thanks
Hey Mike, out of curiosity, would a wood hardener have worked on that troublesome patch?
Possibly but hard to say, there were a lot of voids in there
Mike, I like your choice of shape that you chose for this blank, it really fit the size although I would have really liked to have seen it turn out more of a bowl but understandable it couldn’t be helped. As far as the yellow color; isn’t the European beech a more yellowish hue whereas the American beech has a reddish brown hue? Great job mate!😎
Thanks my friend, the yellow looked like it was very much not meant to be there I will do further investigations 😃
Good afternoon Mike. Another interesting piece. You have the imagination that I lack. Wedding was fantastic and trip to France uneventful. We’ve just finished lunch at youngest Granddaughter’s 17th. Hope to see you in November on the Record Power stand at Harrogate around noon on the Sunday? 🌞
Thanks Ray and that sounds like a date 😁
Hi Mike, Mutha'...nature. Ain't she grand? Nice work. It's a very interesting shape. I'll keep that in mind. Take care and keep turning. Bill Riley
Thanks Bill, and mother nature has a wonderful sense of humour! 😃
Fabulous piece Mike, my heart was in my mouth waiting for the rot to appear on the front side..... thankfully it didn't!!😂
Thanks for the link to wwgoa I got my $1.49 subscription. Time to explore that. 😊
You and me both Ralph! Enjoy the WWGOA site, I have found it very useful 😃
Great platter you made! Nice to see you work around all the rot that was in that piece of wood and still come up with a stunning piece!
Thank you very much William, I'm just glad I got to the end 😃
It did not beat you Mike. I was expecting it to disintegrate off the lathe because of your 'Title'. You came through with flying colours. But I have to say.. you took the easy option. 9 sides divides very nicely to 40Deg. Just this last few weeks, I have made two 7 sided platers which is a little harder to measure at 51. * Deg. ( blowing my own trumpet here 🤪). I do sympathise with you on the rot. I have a 42cm Olive root ball on the lathe at the moment. More rot than solid wood and full of holes. I have saturated it in shellac, and it seems to be holding together. I have spent more time sanding than cutting, as it is impossible to get a clean finish. I just hope Mrs C likes it after all the time and effort I have spent on it. 😎
Haha thanks Pete, I'm sure she will love it, I took the even easier root and cut my template out on my laser engraver lol 😃
Very beautiful🩵.. I never heard of nonagon before, so I learned something again👌. Great job again, like always👌💪
Thank you so much Wendy😃
Hi Mike that was a different idea again executed perfectly to produce a fantastic beech bowl. Or should I have called it a Nonagonal bowl. You certainly used up all nine beech lives on that one.
Thanks for the great video. Till next time.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Thanks Roy, just glad I got it over the finish line 😃
Firstly I have taken out the membership to QWGOA for $1.49
Very interesting nonaganal but, I think your head was becoming a little bit hot with the rotten part. Your perseverance paid off with a beautiful platter, you've done it again Mike
Thanks so much, I really was starting to think I would have nothing left and need to make a new video. Which would have been a shame as it took me an hour to record the advert lol 😁
This was promising to be a tragic episode, but you saved it! Such a gorgeous grain/spalting, and did I see lots of chatoyance? It's a lovely platter. I like platters.
Thanks Rachel, not as much as you would think but it's still nice 😃
🤣🤣🤣 odd sided platter. I really thought I was not going to like it. I love it when I’m shocked and like a piece like this.
Glad to hear it Dan and thanks for watching 😃
Apart from your problems with the wood, it IS lovely & practical. (And I agree with “K” that autumn leaves would look lovely on it!)
Thanks so much Susannah 😃
Mike, maybe a purveyor of fine handcrafted disc golf equipment is in your future. 😉 Another beautiful work of art!
Haha, I knew I was missing something, should have turned a frisbee 😃
Another beauty! I think I'll try a nonagone.
I deal a lot in salvaged wood. A good deal of it is soft, rotten, punky, or spalted. I use thin CA instead of medium. It will really soak in and penetrate the soft wood. In the cross sections I've used in experiments, I've seen it penetrate an 1/8" or deeper. It really stabilizes the wood properly enough for turning and sanding. Just make sure the punky wood is fairly dry, water can set off CA prematurely before it's had time to penetrate. I go through so much thin CA I should buy stock!
Haha thanks my friend, I did not have much thin left which it why I went with the medium, oh well 😃
Good end result, well done your perseverance paid off. Perhaps Will is not such a 'very good friend' after all! 🤣Did you find out what the yellowing was please, as I have had that on some beech? Thanks Hayley 😃
Thanks not yet, I forgot to ask him last time we spoke, Will had no idea it was there so I forgave him lol 😃
I begin to understand why you love spelted wood so much Mike.
So beautiful!!
Thanks so much Robin 😃
You certainly have resilience, Mike! Well done for keeping going on this piece, and (as usual) having a (very) flexible design brief, to achieve your usual high standards and a very impressive result. Cheers!
Thanks David appreciate it 😃
You made a beautiful piece! You could have introduce this piece with some beautiful epoxy colors!
Thanks Rosanna 😃
What a cool idea -- a nonagon! Your tenacity is awe inspiring. Please do more polygons, I hope with thicker, healthier chunks of wood.😊
Haha thanks Shelley, I will, I want to see a proper deep polygonal bowl 😃
Very nice! I'm also a very visual learner, so I love when you're explaining the whats and whys!❤
Thanks Tracey, glad it helps 😃
You've inspired me to try a nonagon with a piece of wood I've been contemplating. I also wonder if you mightn't have had better luck stiffening up that flaky are with *thin* CA. It has the consistency of water, really soaks in thoroughly, and has saved some truly punky areas for me. But persevering through it gave you a beautiful result as well!
Thanks Leigh, you must have missed it but I did soak a large area in CA to see if it would help 😃
Fantastic Platter. And a very nice-looking piece of wood. Not seeing that soft/rotten spot in person, I cannot say for sure, but I have had good luck stiffening up soft/rotten wood with just straight shellac Although it usually makes sanding a real pain as it gums up the sandpaper. I never give up until the wood is all gone, or I have a finished piece.
Thanks John, unfortunately it was way too bad for shellac which is why I went for the CA glue and even that did not come close. Also you are the same as me, never give up 😃
Resin might have helped with the flaky bits, it would penetrate better than the CA glue, and would have made for a more solid surface for turning.
It would, but time was a little against me so not really possible 😃
Would you have done something completely different if you'd known about the rotten area in advance? Maybe something like cutting it half and replacing the rotten area with a resin pour?
Possibly Ben, I think having it the other way up would have helped a lot, I would have been able to turn most of the rot away 😃
What a lovely piece. I really like the asymmetric angles you have on it. Thought at one point that a glue block might have been a solution to what you were having to deal with. You got through it well. Great job turning this brilliant piece!
Thanks so much Doug, I'm just happy I managed to get something out of it 🙂
Beautiful job as always Mike. I always find the ones where you have to overcome a challenge as your best work. Wonderful grain in the wood accented by your finish.
Many thanks Mark, I do love the projects that make you think 😊
Lovely piece of wood. Great problem solving. Nicely done. 😊
Thanks so much Luann 😃
I would love to see some vacuum resin stabilization of degraded wood blanks. Cactus Juice and paraloid derivatives come to mind. Even partially-turned pieces could be stabilized just prior to the final shaping to ensure that the finished piece was hardened throughout. Just my two cents.
Thanks Scott, I will get them one day but I would need to buy a vacuum chamber and cactus juice costs a fortune!
Turned out beautiful yet again. You have so much patience in overcoming difficulties. I would have saturated it with thin CA and went with it.
Thanks Matt, I did but it was not enough 😃
There has to be a part of you that loves a challenge like this one, especially when the result is so amazing. Love the shape and finished piece. ☺️
Thanks Cynthia, yes indeed I love it, although this one came close to not existing at all lol😃
Interesting shape. Not something you see everyday. It was a very pretty piece of wood and would have made a cool bowl. But it wasn’t meant to be. Thankfully you were not seriously hurt!
Thanks Mary, would have loved it to be deeper but like you said, not to be 😀
Really enjoyed that for two reasons - firstly, always good watching you turn something. Secondly, the last two things I've turned have had challenges. A large endgrain pot in a piece of spalted beech which was just horrible to turn, kept losing bits and I've learned endgrain spalting is a recipe for huge tearout. And then I had a lovely piece of ash, 12 inches square to turn a nice simple large bowl (for me anyway) - and there was a crack running all the way through about a third of the way in - and by the time I'd finished I had a 5 inch plate that looks like a frisbee! Was fun, but not the bowl I was looking for - it was also *super thin* by the time I got past the issues.
Haha sounds so familiar, these problems are sent to test us lol 😁
A great save there Mike for a stunning piece.
Off to look up if there are any experiments with wood spalting to see if there is any control to be had from those lovely little bacteria in wood.
Good luck with that and let me know if you find out anything useful 😃
Mike, I thought this one would beat you, but you've made a beautiful platter, beautiful grain on this and the shape is really attractive.
Thanks so much Rena 😃
So glad you saw it through Mike. Very nice platter, and I'm sure the 3D effect of the birch grain is even better in person.
Thanks my friend, the grain is just lovely 😀
This really turned out well! But I worried and worried through the whole thing until the end. Here’s a smooch for Hooch 😘😘😘
Thanks Amie, glad to hear I was not alone 😃
The evolution of a block of wood, bowl to plate to platter, at least It didn’t get to a saucer lol. You can only work with the wood you have. Very nice in the end, so glad you didn’t give up. Another beautiful piece thanks Mike.
Thanks Ian, so pleased when we got past the rot lol 😆
Good job in getting rid of the rot. Beautiful wood. Not sure if you watch Richard Raffan in terms of how he uses the scraper. Might have come in handy on that thin bottom. Cheers.
Thanks Noel, yes I've seen a lot of Richards videos 😁
Lovely platter. It's great to see how you get out of problems, it really helps me when I'm turning. I have taken advantage of the wwqoa too. Many thanks.
Thanks Linda, that's cool, they have so much good stuff on there 😁
wow , i guess we have a few thing in common , i learned also turn mainly from watching youtube there are a lot of turners like you that I've learned from , and i also have dyslexia . the platter was quite the challenge .nice work !!!!
Thanks Michal there are a few of us special people out here 😃
Very beautiful result, this video present a great determination and positive well to reach this result. Thanks for sharing this video with us.
Thank you very much and you are quite welcome 😁
That's the most elegant polygon I've ever seen and it really pleased the previous professional me. Thank you Mike.
Best Wishes, Brendan.
Thanks Brendan, despite the problems I did enjoy this one 😃
That one looked like it would be coming apart. Well done saving the wood. Looks lovely.
Thanks very much 😃
Lovely bowl/platter! You really had your work cut out for you this time. It really is a shame there was so much rot. Thank you for persevering, I might have given up the rot went so deep! It might be cool to have a set of nonagon platters and bowls, all the same diameter or slightly smaller just each having a deeper and deeper bowl.
I feel the need to wag my finger at you. You really should use a pushing tool with the band saw. I flinched your hand was so near that blade. I know you try very hard to be safe. Even a scrap piece of wood will keep your fingers safe.
Take care!
Thanks so much Nikkie and I will consider myself told off lol
A challenge indeed. Lovely result. I know that, whatever intended use I had in mind, it would immediately become a showcase for a sleeping cat in my household ;) I have a sleek black boy and a plush tortoiseshell elderly lady that would show to great effect in that bowl 🤣
Haha thanks, I have two labs that would only be interested if there was food on it , 😜
The polygons are quite impressive. Congratulations on working through the rotten spots and turning out another beautiful piece
Thank you very much Eric ☺️
Never heard of a nonagon before. When I read the title I had visions of the piece flying off the lathe, so I mentally prepared myself and my co-watcher, my cat this morning, but quite a different problem today, well rescued into a lovely platter.
Haha thanks Sylvia 😊
interesting video, I was holding my breath a few times, :-) very elegant platter you made!
Haha me too Miri 😁
Great result in the end. It really sucks when problems show up in the middle of a blank rather than from the outside. I’m glad the rot didn’t go all the way through. That would have been tragic for such a large blank.
Thanks and I would have been gutted if it had lol 😃
Luck of the draw. Imagine if you had flipped it at the beginning and put the screw hole on the other side. It’s still a lice little cheese board ❤️
Thanks, we don't get to turn back time so it is what is is lol 😃
Another interesting and beautiful piece. I was starting to think it might be a see through platter when all the splits kept showing up, but you pulled it off again.
Thank you very much Geoffrey, just pleased to have something left lol 😃
Thanks mike. I am all ready a member, have been for 2 years. If you use a wood hardiner it usually sorts punky wood out. Lovely platter.
Thanks John 😁
Good job saving this one. There is a product called Cactus Juice that pen turners and knife makers use for spalted wood that hardens and stabilizes rotten wood but I don't think it would work on pieces this large or thick due to the time it would take and the expense. I don't know if there is anything like it for larger blanks.
Thanks Dana, I am looking into it 😃
It’s nice to know that you run into problems too, and that sometimes the wood just has to be allowed to dictate its own terms! Thanks for sharing that reality, and not pretending otherwise…
Thanks Christopher, I try to keep everything as real as possible, hopefully it's helps people work through their own problems 😃
Thanks Mike. I guess you never know what you’re going to find in a piece b of wood.
Turned into a nice platter 👍in the end .
No you don't, thanks Bev 😄
You won again my friend, didnt let the small problems beat you ! And it turned out Lovely ! That is a piece anyone would love .
Thanks so much Nana 😁
Hi Mike. Didn't think you were going to get such a great looking nonagon. But your determination is one of the reasons your videos are so watchable and a fantastic learning resource.
Thanks so much Paul 😃
Thin CA is your friend when turning rotted wood. Medium is good for filling tearouts.
Thanks Gary 😁
Lovely platter and nice save! Many different styles of learning, but few learn soley by reading. Most are a combination of styles. Being a visual learner is a great way to learn!
Very true Kathryn, this is why I usually throw away instructions lol 😃
The platter looks good. Very well done. We often do not know what is inside a piece of wood until we start turning. Sometimes wonderful grain. Sometimes like this one, rotten wood which has to be removed.
I was glad that you were able to remove the worm screw hole without blowing through the outside.
I do love the look of beech, and this has some very nice colours and grain.
Dave.
Thanks Dave, it got very close with the worm screw hole, to say I was nervous as an understatement 😃
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Glad it worked out, beautiful wood, love the shape.
Haha me too, was not sure we would make it to the end of this one 😃
Beautiful outcome! Great to display fall nuts and fruit.
Thanks so much Harold 😃
Nice save it’s a lovely shape and size 👍🏻 the grain is stunning throughout
Thank you! Cheers! 😄
The beech was not a day at the beach. But you created a beautiful “thin” platter. 🤣 good job!
Haha thanks Ken 😂
Your platter kinda reminds me of us fixing up this house: the deeper we dug, the more problems we found. End results were worth it for both of us. 😽😺
Thanks Barbara, I have had houses like that as well, always worth it in the end 😃
Bit of a struggle that one was for you Mike , but it turned out great. 🏴
Thanks Steve 😁
Well done Mike great save at least you got a finished piece out of it.I'm a hands on learner myself👍
Thanks Rod, so glad we got something out of it 🙂
9/9 Mike, interesting challenge and a lovely result
Thanks Mike, I see what you did there lol 😂😀
The best way to learn manual skills is to see it, do it, then teach it. If you can do all three steps, then it will be committed to long term memory and from there it’s just building muscle memory and learning the little things
Completely agree, I still can't play the piano though 😂
You could use a wood hardener on the inside ink wood as long as it’s not meant for food. It’s a liquid that will soak deep into the punk wood and give it stability.
Could have but I don't have any and the best stuff needs to be used with a vacuum chamber.
Good save! I think that the flatness works with the geometry of the shape.
Thanks Jeramiah, I think so too but I would have loved to have seen how it would look with a deeper bowl 😃
Gorgeous platter. Enjoyed watching this one
Thanks Stephen, it was fun, a little frustrating at times but still fun 😃
If you were to gouge out the wrot at the beginning maybe you could then have filled the void with apoxy .
It is a possibility 😃
I was holding my breath at the end there! It turned out quite elegant, lovely.
Thanks! Must admit, those last few cuts had me on edge lol
You may have said before and I missed it, but I'm curious why you nearly always use a recess rather than a tenon?
I just prefer the look of them and they do not need any finishing off at the end 😊
A lovely piece Mike, in retrospect would the problems have been avoided if you'd started on the other side making the now top into the bottom? Just asking!!
Not sure to be honest, it went a long way through but I may have hollowed a lot out 😊
Nice shape, nice grain. I wouldn't mind seeing a dodecagonal or icosagonal piece.
Me too, I have been contemplating 😃
It’s a bit of bad luck you couldn’t see the shake and rot. You might have been able to get rid of it dishing out the bowl if you started on the other side.
Indeed Gary it may have been better but too late now 🙂
NIce piece Mike. A lot of frustration with the rot but it did turn out great. Cheers
Thanks so much Robert 😃
Nice job working around the challenges!
Thanks Mike, this one had a few 😃