That's called "ethical certainty." The let-he-who-has-no-sin-cast-the-first-stone, in many cases, is only an indication of moral cowardice in people with guilty consciences. Moreover, it is quite possible that the story told in the Gospel of John ch. 4 is even more spurious than the rest. No serious moral reasoning should be based on it.
@@seanham1699 Biblically or not biblically, she is right. That feeling of indignation has nothing to do with the Bible. It is an evolutionary trait in human beings, and people devoid of it are sick in the head.
@@3BK235Y the more evolve people are, the further away people separate from God. God's law is really the only law that truly matters. Evolution is from the enemies
even in his tv interview you can hear the disdain in his voice towards her… “whenever i tried to say hi she just didn’t say anything” poor woman’s instinct was telling her that this man was bad news
Look at how neat and pretty her apartment was. She had built a good life for herself and it was cut short by cowards. He had the same apartment but it was a dump.
Not really, I don't think Gacy, Dahmer or Bundy were like that. In fact, JWG was furious they eviscerated his house. He didn't want the floors "messed up." They went through them with a substantial saw instead.
Isac thinks he's in jail because he made bad choices in who he called friends? No, it's because he helped torture and murder someone. And he only feels sorry for himself.
He still doesn't take any accountability for his own actions. Yes, make good choices when it comes to picking friends. But that has nothing to do with HIS own personal choice to sit there and do nothing while an innocent woman was begging for her life. He was all alone with her, away from his vicious "friends". He easily could have chosen to save her life and let her escape. He chose not to. Why? Out of some weird misplaced sense of loyalty to his friends? He would have been doing them a solid by letting her escape, since the charge for kidnapping and assault is less than the charges for all of the above plus murder.
isac seemed like a go with the flow dummy type of person. weak minded easily manipulated. tbh i dont think he even kxlled her just absolutely couldve prevented it.
Denise potentially leaving behind her gym card as a clue made me tear up. My friend's wife, also named Denise, was horribly murdered and intentionally left behind evidence as well, in the form of a ring she owned shoved down in the backseat of his(the killer's)car.
So heart breaking. Isaac Brown had her life in his hands while his buddy was gone and could have turned her loose. He should have got the death penalty too.
I know about that case. Denise was the daughter of a cop and they were tracking the vehicle but unfortunately were too late and miscommunication between jurisdictions made it complicated. Hopefully her family is coping okay and her children are doing well.
I heard of that girl. Denise Amber Lee. 911 really botched that case. Heartbreaking how brave she was and how much she tried to get help but help never came. Such a horrific case. They can’t execute her killer fast enough.
> Caballero, sentenced to death, died of cancer in a prison hospital in 2013. > Brown is serving life in prison. > Robert Messer served 5 years. He's out.
@@jcspider7259 Actually Robert Messer went back to prison for a sex crime in 2006 and died in 2012 presumably either of natural causes or maybe a suicide.
💐💐RIP Denise R. O'Neill ( 25 Feb 1967- 13 Jul 1995) (aged 28) you will truly be missed and my prayers go out to you and your family. 💐💐 Luis “Chris” Caballero died of cancer on 9/13/2013, and Anne O’Neill said “I hope he suffered from cancer. I hope he got his just rewards. He was just a monster.” It doesn’t matter to her and her husband, Larry, 75, that Caballero didn’t live long enough to be executed. “I’m just glad he’s dead,” she said. “I cursed him every single day."
it makes me happy to hear that her mom was still okay with him dying even though he didn’t make it to be put to death, i hope that knowing he died from a terrible illness help her and her husband heal a little bit more. i can only hope the other two succumb to equally as terrible or worse deaths
Exactly. The other side of the loser's pancake is: if the woman smiles at him, he immediately concludes she wants to go to bed with him. That's what Caballero would have thought if Denise has paid him any attention.
Apartament building owners should do thorough background checks before accepting tenants in their properties. How dangerous was the fact that Denise lived across from that criminal!
They do.. but a majority of the population wouldn't be able to rent a home if misdemeanors prevented a person from renting. It's close to impossible to determine who is full of evil from someone who stole something from Walmart in the past.. it's a shame.
How awful that she obviously knew she wasn't going to live and smartly hid proof she'd been there. What that moment must've been like... poor woman. And how enraging that the killer they interviewed never did say sorry or even *mention* her. It's all "make better choices so you don't get stuck in jail like *me.* " That sure doesn't sound like remorse for *her,* but for himself.
They do have the Forensic Files II but it's not available for free on here. Obviously since Peter Thomas is dead it has a different narrator. The episodes I've seen are decent but there'll never be another true FF like this version.
@Lily Bassiri You could be describing what has happened to me. Except the creeps who have been attempting to destroy me are military and other intel operatives.
The problem is that there are some humans who find sense in these crimes. It is why I believe the police and the judiciary have to work with the surviving victims and their network to catch the criminals ASAP.
> Caballero, sentenced to death, died of cancer in a prison hospital in 2013. > Brown is serving life in prison. > Robert Messer served 5 years. He's out.
"Fact." That's pure speculation. Of course she knew death was a possibility at that point, she still may have been able to escape or persuade them not to kill her.
@@encycl07pedia- If someone kidnaps and rapes a known neighbour without any intention/means to hide his identity, she knows what's going to happen next. No speculation needs apply.
There could have been alot of reasons why it was there. I just can't believe that there was 3people involved in this and all of them are garbage and should be treated as such. Discarded.
I’ve watched this episode a couple different times, and each time I’m blown away when the 911 call is being made and is told that there is a body in the canal beside their house… and the operator responds by saying, “What kind of body?” Really?! 😵💫🥴
I felt so bad for Denise. This woman had a life she was enjoying and looking forward to being successful and now three young men kill her over money that's heartbreaking
To be honest, if I were in such situation, I will silently helped my "friends" getting rid of the body. But I will secretly throw a lot of clues and evidences along the way, and will immediately report it to the police as soon as the friends gone. Hopefully my "friends" won't kill me for being a "traitor rat", and I will only get light sentence. The moment they did something that horrible, they are no longer friends of mine in my books. I hope I will never make friends with such people. I'd rather be friendless forever.
@@donsilva6452 Vengeance helps the process of healing. Nothing will bring back your love one, but the emotional satisfaction of vengeance is way fucking better than agonizing that the animals got away with brutally murdering your love one.
agreed, isac’s stupid little speech at the end made me so mad. the only person who put him in jail is himself & he’s lucky to not be put to death as i think they all should have been. he had every chance to let her go or call the cops while he watched her when louis went to get money, it’s vile that he didn’t let her go knowing what was about to happen to her. hope he & the other two monsters suffer in jail for the rest of their worthless lives
they seem to be really stupid people , low iq type folks, mix that with a killer mentality and there you have a remorseless person who due to his own ignorance cannot value a human life. Death Penalty!
When I watch the parents of murder victims being interviewed I oftentimes can’t understand how they are able to talk normally, even with little emotion. I understand people grieve differently and all, but I just can’t grasp it. But THIS woman here, I can definitely relate to her anger and emotions-truly! The pain of losing her daughter like that will never fade. I am truly saddened for her and sad that there’s nothing anyone can do to help. May all murderers get their punishment in this life or another!
This was a good episode. They had all the elements of a good show. They had plenty of forensic evidence and we didn’t know the killer till close to the end.
Thank you 🙏🏾 so much to all the police and forensic science technician,who took the time to find the evidence to nail, these sick perverse people! I am shocked that her own neighbor plan, what happen to her. Damn it kinda feels like no place is really safe. My condolences 💐 to her mother. I’m so sorry 😞 for your loss.
If he needed money so bad he should have asked her for a loan. Or went to one of those loan businesses. That's what I do when I need money. What do you think Amore?
Luis Caballero was removed from this earth in a prison hospital of cancer on Sept 21, 2013. I'm so sorry for Denise's sweet mom and what she had to go thru. I just want to hug her. Sometimes you should list to a parent's instincts as I read that her father had a bad feeling about her moving to Florida. Isaac Brown could have saved her life by untying her and setting her free but he chose to be a coward and did not. He should also have got the death penalty. No deals.
One of several cases profiled on Forensic Files of females that lived alone in an apartment complex. And we're watched,stalked,assaulted,killed by a neighbor predator. Cori Parker,Glenda Furch, Stephanie Bennet....
* Messer spent only 5 years in prison * Brown still remains in prison to date * Caballero died of cancer while waiting on death row after 12 years Denise's mother says "the air is a lot cleaner now he's dead…" and she doesn't care if he died by cancer. All that matters is that he's dead.
They got to make double sure, and not assume. So it's not ridiculous for the operator to have asked what kind of body. Because for all they know it could have been an animal's body.
I hope that accomplice never gets out. Whenever I watch this segment I really get upset with that black guy who could have easily released that beautiful and promising lady. My heart hurts to see her mother cry.
You do realize there was a 3rd accomplice, right? He was white and he could have let that poor girl go as well. But I see what you’re saying, the black guy was left behind with her. Just sick.
@@werringertonney7489 yes. He was left behind to watch the young lady. The other accomplice joined later. I am an African. The truth must be told. I hope he spend the rest of his life in jail.
That's right! Be upset with the Black guy! There were actually two other perpetrators deeply involved who were not Black but could have just as easily released that beautiful and promising lady. But since they are not Black, no reason to get upset with them.
7:28 "Then investigators noticed something on the local news cast. This man, one of the denise's neighbours, kept turning up in various news stories about her disappearance."
It's amazing how when they interact with something they literally look for any and everything to be a clue.... I wish I paid that much attention to detail
@@trunks2705 Robert Messer. He got out in 2002 but went back to prison in 2006 for a sex crime and died in prison in 2012 but no cause of death was given.
It's even more dangerous for her when police call his stalking "cute." She's not talking to the police about him because it's adorable. People aren't leery of others for nothing. The Gift of Fear. Gavin DeBecker.
What kind of parents raise kids that could do this?!! Our society is doomed if we don't start teaching compassion and love for our fellow citizens including animals and people that aren't like us!! Enough greed and narcissism!
Always my question - what raised these things? Time to start forced sterilization 😡 As a single mom of 3 I can proudly say - my kids are and always have been defenders, not perpetrators. So again - what raised these things?
Each time l see this clip, l really feel very sad but also angry at these evil deeds. The young lady knew she may probably die painfully so she had to slip her card under the box and wait to die. The fears and anguish she may have been going through before her death is hard to imagine. May she rest in peace.
Yeah it’s sad. I’m just glad for her that Denise made sure those men would be caught given they were stealing her identity. Watching that reenactment the first time made me wish she lived
@@alyssafowler9240 No it is NOT. How can you compare a cold blooded, vicious, violent murder of a helpless INNOCENT person to a justifiable execution a GUILTY scumbag. Life sentence is not a better option because keeping someone around who has nothing to loose is just as dangerous in prison as them being out in the streets. I assure you if you just spent one hour in a maximum security prison with the worst offenders, you would want these creatures exterminated just as much. Not to mention the extreme expense to incarcerate one of these animals on a yearly basis and you want them housed for life at our expense. Yeah, that sounds like a great option. Why don't you just have them stay with you since you want them kept alive so bad, sweetheart.
The best justice for criminal like these is to release them to the family of the murdered/deceased and let THEM deal with the beasts. The other two are just as guilty as Luis, because they went along with him ALL the way, even had breakfast afterwards as if they wanted to reward themselves for a job well done. They had plenty of time to get out but they decided not to. Hope they rot in jail. That poor girl must have gone through fear and pain like we can not imagine. In the end, I pray for the mother to have the strength to carry on. Amen.
That poor Irish mother. She seems like a lovely lady. If I knew she had burned them alive, as she said, I'd turn a blind eye and help her cover it up. They deserve even worse than that.
Denise was living a full and happy life when she encountered an evil monster who needed money. His co conspirators are just as guilt of this horrible crime. What denise thought before she died must have been horrific. These murderers got the sentences they deserved. My heart goes out to denises mother. I feel her pain. I lost my youngest daughter to cancer over 20 years ago. The only way i accept my loss is i know god lent brooke to me for a short time and she was a gift from him. Rest in peace denise.
'Butt-tocks' pronunciation by one of the excellent detectives. Same pronunciation by Tom Hanks as "Forrest Gump.' I remember Forrest talking about someone having been shot in the "Butt-tocks." BTW, I also enjoyed the Boston area speaking by Det. Fraser.
Can you even imagine doing such a horrendous act, then casually going out to enjoy a meal! It’s bad enough for one person to be a psycho but for three to find each other!
Luis Caballero died in prison in September 2013 of cancer before he could be executed. Isac Brown is still in prison serving life without parole. Robert Messer's 15 year sentence was cut in half on appeal to 7.5 years in 2000, got out in 2002, but went back to prison in 2006 with a ten year sentence for having sex with an underage teenager but died in prison in December 2012 of undisclosed causes.
What's terrifying is what that one women said, " the police are under pressure to COME UP with a suspect"??? Shouldn't it be "find the actual killer"??!!
Issac Brown has such a deep and impressionable look into his eyes. I truly believe his role in this was being talked into doing something crazy. He was so young hanging around the wrong people. I wonder where his family is. It hurts my heart because his eyes are so pure.
Pure or not , he is a comd-blooded killer that has zero remorse about killing her ! He is only sorry he is seving time . . . somehow the PURE eye a..holes are more evil than THE mean-eyed ones
Don’t be bringing journalists or reporters to these shows. They speak like they were there when it happened. Just stop it . Rest In Peace to Denise , I feel bad for her mom
Disgusting that none of them had the morals to put a stop to it. Side note: Anne O’Neill has a detectable Irish accent is this common for Irish descendants in America? Of course she may be of first generation - just an interesting observation.
Isac Brown is right IF he means it on the message he sent to all those individuals who don’t know or don’t want to make better choices in life. He realized that too late being incarcerated. Very sad that it happened to him having no criminal records whatsoever. My heart goes out to his family knowing that most likely he will stay in prison for the rest of his life. Very sad and tragic indeed.
**update**Luis Carbonara did 12yrs on death row and died of cancer before his death sentence was satisfied. Even god knew he needed to go ...🤷♂️ RIP pretty lady
Just a bit of enlightenment... *god* w/the lowercase "g" refers to false/idol gods & not the Heavenly Father, Creator of All whom u seem 2b referring to in ur comment. I hope u don't take offense bc Im only trying to educate u. Just as us mere mortals always capitalize our names as a show of respect & to demonstrate that we are people, GOD deserves the utmost respect & HIS name should be capitalized & never a lowercase "g". The Holy Scriptures tell us that any reference to a god w/the lowercase "g" is not pertaining to the One & Only Heavenly Father. #MayTheLightOfTruthForeverShine #AbundantBlessingsOfEnlightenmentToUsAll #KnowledgeGivesUsPowers
@@traceeteeter9875 Just because u don't believe in GOD, doesn't mean HE doesn't exist. I believe HE does & guess what? We'll ALL find out one day who was right & who was wrong!
It's already been mentioned that Caballero died in 2013, but I'm glad Denise's parents were still around to hear the news. From the article: “The air is bit cleaner today because he is dead,” the victim’s mother, Anne O’Neill, said. “I hope he suffered from the cancer. I hope he got his just rewards. He was a monster." She said it doesn’t matter to her and her husband, Larry, that Caballero didn’t live long enough to be executed. “I’m just glad he’s dead. I cursed him every single day.”
Its sad how the mother said It was so hot and we were freezing, we were cold and yet it was hot , i have no problem casting all the stones. I get her 200%
I love the mother saying she has no problems casting all the stones towards the person who killed her daughter.
She sounds Irish.
Biblicly, she would be justified.
That's called "ethical certainty." The let-he-who-has-no-sin-cast-the-first-stone, in many cases, is only an indication of moral cowardice in people with guilty consciences. Moreover, it is quite possible that the story told in the Gospel of John ch. 4 is even more spurious than the rest. No serious moral reasoning should be based on it.
@@seanham1699 Biblically or not biblically, she is right. That feeling of indignation has nothing to do with the Bible. It is an evolutionary trait in human beings, and people devoid of it are sick in the head.
@@3BK235Y the more evolve people are, the further away people separate from God. God's law is really the only law that truly matters. Evolution is from the enemies
even in his tv interview you can hear the disdain in his voice towards her… “whenever i tried to say hi she just didn’t say anything” poor woman’s instinct was telling her that this man was bad news
yeah i guess, but wasn't that an actor recreating the scenes? I thought it was only real footage whenever it says "file footage" on the screen
Exactly! She could sense he was creepy.
Instinct, possibly. Holy Spirit, most likely. Bless her mom.
Amen ❤
@@Stiasteny no baby, those were actual news clippings
Look at how neat and pretty her apartment was. She had built a good life for herself and it was cut short by cowards. He had the same apartment but it was a dump.
Filthy Dirty Pigs
He was a sloppy hoarder
@@ec4221perverts tend to be like that.
Not really, I don't think Gacy, Dahmer or Bundy were like that. In fact, JWG was furious they eviscerated his house. He didn't want the floors "messed up." They went through them with a substantial saw instead.
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 What did ops comment say before they edited it? Because your comment seems kind of irrelevant to ops.
Luis Caballero died in prison, from cancer, on September 13, 2013. He was 39 years old.
Good.. hope he rots in hell
I hope he suffered every second
good riddance to bad rubbish
@@juliefennell1329 Amen !!!
God does have his justice
Isac thinks he's in jail because he made bad choices in who he called friends? No, it's because he helped torture and murder someone. And he only feels sorry for himself.
He had Denise's life in his hands and could have set her free but instead he chose otherwise. He should have got the death penalty too.
Me, on the other hand, find his message very meaninful. I hope others hear what he is saying.
He still doesn't take any accountability for his own actions. Yes, make good choices when it comes to picking friends. But that has nothing to do with HIS own personal choice to sit there and do nothing while an innocent woman was begging for her life. He was all alone with her, away from his vicious "friends". He easily could have chosen to save her life and let her escape. He chose not to. Why? Out of some weird misplaced sense of loyalty to his friends? He would have been doing them a solid by letting her escape, since the charge for kidnapping and assault is less than the charges for all of the above plus murder.
isac seemed like a go with the flow dummy type of person. weak minded easily manipulated. tbh i dont think he even kxlled her just absolutely couldve prevented it.
I thought that was interesting that he said that too. Some people are reactive and don’t really think for themselves as much as they should.
Denise potentially leaving behind her gym card as a clue made me tear up. My friend's wife, also named Denise, was horribly murdered and intentionally left behind evidence as well, in the form of a ring she owned shoved down in the backseat of his(the killer's)car.
So heart breaking. Isaac Brown had her life in his hands while his buddy was gone and could have turned her loose. He should have got the death penalty too.
Sorry for your lose. Just horrible. Blessings to you 🙏.
Smart lady she was , sorry for your lost . .
I know about that case. Denise was the daughter of a cop and they were tracking the vehicle but unfortunately were too late and miscommunication between jurisdictions made it complicated. Hopefully her family is coping okay and her children are doing well.
I heard of that girl. Denise Amber Lee. 911 really botched that case. Heartbreaking how brave she was and how much she tried to get help but help never came. Such a horrific case. They can’t execute her killer fast enough.
This is a pure act of evil to watch. These bastards just ripped this girl's life out of her for a stupid senseless reason
exactly
> Caballero, sentenced to death, died of cancer in a prison hospital in 2013.
> Brown is serving life in prison.
> Robert Messer served 5 years. He's out.
@@jcspider7259 Actually Robert Messer went back to prison for a sex crime in 2006 and died in 2012 presumably either of natural causes or maybe a suicide.
@@rs52594 AWESOME
@@jcspider7259 Messer died in 2012.
💐💐RIP Denise R. O'Neill ( 25 Feb 1967- 13 Jul 1995) (aged 28) you will truly be missed and my prayers go out to you and your family. 💐💐
Luis “Chris” Caballero died of cancer on 9/13/2013, and Anne O’Neill said “I hope he suffered from cancer. I hope he got his just rewards. He was just a monster.” It doesn’t matter to her and her husband, Larry, 75, that Caballero didn’t live long enough to be executed. “I’m just glad he’s dead,” she said. “I cursed him every single day."
it makes me happy to hear that her mom was still okay with him dying even though he didn’t make it to be put to death, i hope that knowing he died from a terrible illness help her and her husband heal a little bit more. i can only hope the other two succumb to equally as terrible or worse deaths
Any updates on the other two men?
Just because she wasn't interested in him, the neighbor called her "snooty." Typical loser.
Exactly. The other side of the loser's pancake is: if the woman smiles at him, he immediately concludes she wants to go to bed with him. That's what Caballero would have thought if Denise has paid him any attention.
Apartament building owners should do thorough background checks before accepting tenants in their properties. How dangerous was the fact that Denise lived across from that criminal!
They do now, in the state where I live...
They do.. but a majority of the population wouldn't be able to rent a home if misdemeanors prevented a person from renting. It's close to impossible to determine who is full of evil from someone who stole something from Walmart in the past.. it's a shame.
People with criminal records have to have somewhere to live too.
Background checks show up clear if a person has never been caught.
@@terancetheindomitable9701 Not if they're punished properly.
Her mom breaks my heart ! 😞
😢😥
True 💔😔😔
All these victims led such interesting lives, If I ever get murdered they'd say " oh he loved livin, just livin and breathin, he was always breathing"
Lol, lol 😆
Hahaha... me too, me too lol
🤣🤣🤣
Omg lol me too
Same. Smh 💀😭🤣🤣🤣
How awful that she obviously knew she wasn't going to live and smartly hid proof she'd been there.
What that moment must've been like... poor woman.
And how enraging that the killer they interviewed never did say sorry or even *mention* her. It's all "make better choices so you don't get stuck in jail like *me.* "
That sure doesn't sound like remorse for *her,* but for himself.
Isaac Brown could have cut her loose and bailed on the other two but he chose to be a coward. He should have got the death penalty as well.
Yeah, what is the lesson there exactly
" Make better choices for who they call FRIENDS " ISAC BROWN.
You should have known better and do the right thing.
Rest in peace Denise 💐💐💐
It's 2022 and I'm still re-watching this. The production & storytelling is really good. They should do more of this.
lol
It's just amazing
im hurt we no longer have Peter Thomas 🥲
They do have the Forensic Files II but it's not available for free on here. Obviously since Peter Thomas is dead it has a different narrator. The episodes I've seen are decent but there'll never be another true FF like this version.
Is that all you got out of this sad story?? OMG
Such a decent beautiful young life getting senselessly destroyed by some disgusting excuse of human beings..... So utterly unfair.
*destroyed
Whoever told you life was fair? They did you a disservice.
@Lily Bassiri You could be describing what has happened to me. Except the creeps who have been attempting to destroy me are military and other intel operatives.
The problem is that there are some humans who find sense in these crimes. It is why I believe the police and the judiciary have to work with the surviving victims and their network to catch the criminals ASAP.
@@mariahfox3984
Ya right
According to the Florida Dept of Corrections, Luis Caballero, the murderer is deceased as of September 13, 2013.
This is what diversity looks like.
> Caballero, sentenced to death, died of cancer in a prison hospital in 2013.
> Brown is serving life in prison.
> Robert Messer served 5 years. He's out.
Good riddance!
@@jcspider7259 Thanks for the great news about Caballero.
In Spanish, "caballero" means either "knight" or "gentlemen".
Ironic 😆
What pains me most is the fact that Denise knew that she wasn't going to live by slipping the membership card underneath the box.
That kind of horror is unimaginable. She deserved better.
That's terrible that you know, you're going to .Die may she rest in peace. But she was smarter than he was piece of s***.
"Fact." That's pure speculation. Of course she knew death was a possibility at that point, she still may have been able to escape or persuade them not to kill her.
@@encycl07pedia- If someone kidnaps and rapes a known neighbour without any intention/means to hide his identity, she knows what's going to happen next. No speculation needs apply.
There could have been alot of reasons why it was there. I just can't believe that there was 3people involved in this and all of them are garbage and should be treated as such. Discarded.
I’ve watched this episode a couple different times, and each time I’m blown away when the 911 call is being made and is told that there is a body in the canal beside their house… and the operator responds by saying, “What kind of body?” Really?! 😵💫🥴
Right. Thought they'd call 911 over a dead squirrel or raccoon?
Although tbh people probably *do* call for stuff like that.
911 operators are morons. By the time they finish the call with you valuable time is lost.
@Norberto Fontanez Haha! My thoughts exactly!🤣
Dumb question
Lol 😂
My heart breaks for the mom and family. Glad they got justice.
What low lifes…one guy has an idea to rob and kill an innocent woman, and the other two just go along with it. Just appalling.
You left out the SA.
I felt so bad for Denise. This woman had a life she was enjoying and looking forward to being successful and now three young men kill her over money that's heartbreaking
A chef student got sh*t over his phone in a very rich area of Chicago. He survived.
Three young men? Don't you think that's too nice a language to describe three bastards?
@@windsofmarchjourneyperrytr2823 And what is the price of tea in China?
Why would you get involved in a murder/kidnapping/ assault FOR ANY REASON?!
To be honest, if I were in such situation, I will silently helped my "friends" getting rid of the body. But I will secretly throw a lot of clues and evidences along the way, and will immediately report it to the police as soon as the friends gone. Hopefully my "friends" won't kill me for being a "traitor rat", and I will only get light sentence. The moment they did something that horrible, they are no longer friends of mine in my books. I hope I will never make friends with such people. I'd rather be friendless forever.
Great response from the mother!! Accurate depiction of her intent!!
it heart wrenching....to see none of the two men could have mercy ....
She needs healing. Vengeance doesn't give it.
@@donsilva6452 Vengeance helps the process of healing. Nothing will bring back your love one, but the emotional satisfaction of vengeance is way fucking better than agonizing that the animals got away with brutally murdering your love one.
@@tonymoreno1416 the problem with vengeance is that is short-lived.
@@donsilva6452 Short lived or not, once again, It's much better than them getting away with it.
Those friends are just as responsible, total disregard for human life! The mother couldn’t have put it better.
KILLERS HAVE NO REGARD FOR HUMAN LIFE. IF THEY DID THEY WOULD NOT KILL .
agreed, isac’s stupid little speech at the end made me so mad. the only person who put him in jail is himself & he’s lucky to not be put to death as i think they all should have been. he had every chance to let her go or call the cops while he watched her when louis went to get money, it’s vile that he didn’t let her go knowing what was about to happen to her. hope he & the other two monsters suffer in jail for the rest of their worthless lives
they seem to be really stupid people , low iq type folks, mix that with a killer mentality and there you have a remorseless person who due to his own ignorance cannot value a human life. Death Penalty!
Luis Caballero and Robert Messer have both since died.
😃😃😃
And we know where they are!!
That poor mother!
Good.
Good riddance.
When I watch the parents of murder victims being interviewed I oftentimes can’t understand how they are able to talk normally, even with little emotion. I understand people grieve differently and all, but I just can’t grasp it. But THIS woman here, I can definitely relate to her anger and emotions-truly! The pain of losing her daughter like that will never fade. I am truly saddened for her and sad that there’s nothing anyone can do to help. May all murderers get their punishment in this life or another!
I was thinking the same thing too, how most parents are casual/ calm about their child's murder, but this woman showed real emotion.
This was a good episode. They had all the elements of a good show. They had plenty of forensic evidence and we didn’t know the killer till close to the end.
I was about to say the killer is stupid. i just realized i already watched this before. it seems it's my first time.
Men love to say that women who pick up on their creepiness and don't like them are "snooty." Nothing is ever their own fault!
These men were brutal, without souls. They got what they deserved. RIP Denise O'Neil
Caller: there's a body in the canal...911 Operator: what kind of body?
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Thank you 🙏🏾 so much to all the police and forensic science technician,who took the time to find the evidence to nail, these sick perverse people! I am shocked that her own neighbor plan, what happen to her. Damn it kinda feels like no place is really safe. My condolences 💐 to her mother. I’m so sorry 😞 for your loss.
If he needed money so bad he should have asked her for a loan. Or went to one of those loan businesses. That's what I do when I need money. What do you think Amore?
Yes this is sad theses cowards couldn’t get up and go to wrk like normal people instead he wanted to rob and steal from her
@@nicholasshade hi hihiuuuhjjjihu hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ugh biI’m i
Loan agencies won’t if you don’t have a job . He was a burdening loser who now rots on death row .
Murdering *
Her poor mom 💔
Luis Caballero was removed from this earth in a prison hospital of cancer on Sept 21, 2013. I'm so sorry for Denise's sweet mom and what she had to go thru. I just want to hug her. Sometimes you should list to a parent's instincts as I read that her father had a bad feeling about her moving to Florida.
Isaac Brown could have saved her life by untying her and setting her free but he chose to be a coward and did not. He should also have got the death penalty. No deals.
One of several cases profiled on Forensic Files of females that lived alone in an apartment complex. And we're watched,stalked,assaulted,killed by a neighbor predator. Cori Parker,Glenda Furch, Stephanie Bennet....
And doing laundry seems to be a precursor in many of these assaults.
And this one was amazingly easy - all he had to do was pounce on her at her doorway and drag her across the hall into his apartment!!
Yup. These men serm to think we owe them something.
* Messer spent only 5 years in prison
* Brown still remains in prison to date
* Caballero died of cancer while waiting on death row after 12 years
Denise's mother says "the air is a lot cleaner now he's dead…" and she doesn't care if he died by cancer. All that matters is that he's dead.
Queen shit
Messer died in 2012.
@@badkarma1289 of what?
I have no problems casting all the Stone..well said 😊
I love how Denise O'Neill left her card under that box. 📦
@Frank Skoda-Simmons well, yeah. But she had to.🌻💛
"What kind of body?"
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A body of water. Wtf kind do you think? 🙄🙄🙄
That was a very annoying question indeed
Definitely NOT the smartest 911 operator lol
They just try to keep you talking keep giving info. No mater what anything can be everything . Even your demeanor .
This was a sad, disturbing case, perpetrated by a seriously evil and disgusting manboobs, but your comment made me laugh hard. 🤭😅
They got to make double sure, and not assume. So it's not ridiculous for the operator to have asked what kind of body. Because for all they know it could have been an animal's body.
They should've blurred out Caballeros chest...🤮..sicko killer!!😡
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i know right! i was eating when i watched this episode and almost throw up when i saw his chest lmao
Fat boi!!
Agree with you. The bloke is totally disgusting.
I love when her mother was explaining how she loved life. ❤ They showed that photo of her in that fountain. 📷 ⛲
I hope that accomplice never gets out. Whenever I watch this segment I really get upset with that black guy who could have easily released that beautiful and promising lady. My heart hurts to see her mother cry.
You do realize there was a 3rd accomplice, right? He was white and he could have let that poor girl go as well. But I see what you’re saying, the black guy was left behind with her. Just sick.
@@werringertonney7489 yes. He was left behind to watch the young lady. The other accomplice joined later. I am an African. The truth must be told. I hope he spend the rest of his life in jail.
The 3rd accomplice who is white could've call the cop just as the black one. He sat hearing her being rape but never did anything. Caberalo is a devil
That's right! Be upset with the Black guy! There were actually two other perpetrators deeply involved who were not Black but could have just as easily released that beautiful and promising lady. But since they are not Black, no reason to get upset with them.
Why you gotta mention his race? The whiteboy coulda stopped it too. It was peer pressure.
7:28 "Then investigators noticed something on the local news cast. This man, one of the denise's neighbours, kept turning up in various news stories about her disappearance."
The surveillan cameras are always not functioning well 😕😕😕😕
Alot of times, companies are cheap & don't wanna send $ for real surveillance systems so they get fake ones as a deterrent 😩😵
I really do not understand why people comment on how attractive she is. Does that somehow make it worse or more tragic? No.
Of course it does
@@peterberg8417 thats very shallow of you
I agree. That's so annoying. I guess it just shows how we objectify women. When a man is killed, nobody says 'He was so handsome, what a shame'.
It's amazing how when they interact with something they literally look for any and everything to be a clue.... I wish I paid that much attention to detail
Like on Patricia Cornwell books, in 🌼 Florida, too
but the three dummies barely covered their tracks.
It seems really rare for a surveillance camera to be working.
If the cameras worked, the story wouldn't be on here because they woulda caught him right away.
Salute to all detectives, police, science forensic
The first flash of the guy in the cam, i knew already that he might be the suspect, his eyes is scary.
Good verdict! this is proper justice, hope they never get to see outside that jail again.
Two of them are dead and the one that's alive is serving life without parole.
@@terancetheindomitable9701 Caballero is dead which is the other?
@@trunks2705 Robert Messer. He got out in 2002 but went back to prison in 2006 for a sex crime and died in prison in 2012 but no cause of death was given.
Rest in heaven mr Peter Thomas u was the best narrator ever still today
CONGRADULATIONS all the detectives and forensic investigators who worked on the case and did an Amazing and fantastic job
Luis Caballero died of cancer in prison after being on death row for twelve years
Well that's his karma!!👀👏
How did you know the he die of cancer in prison?
@@LuisGarcia-gr5nh there's something called Google.. it's a search engine.. Google on how Google works.. Excuse the paradox😏
@@blacklivesmatter4918 movement problem of pain act's pain act's the train train to bring bring you you are the only ones I
@@LuisGarcia-gr5nh and phone number of patients in my coffee then will hop in the process problem problem pppppppppppppp
Rip Denise. I’m sorry for the mom. I feel so much for her. I hope she can find peace and not be in any more pain.
3 useless excuses of human beings.
Mom, I’m sorry for your tragic loss. ❤️
snooty = i was creepy and she avoided me
It's even more dangerous for her when police call his stalking "cute." She's not talking to the police about him because it's adorable. People aren't leery of others for nothing.
The Gift of Fear. Gavin DeBecker.
Get a job if you dont have money. I'm sick of people giving these excuses.
Creepy people are going to have issues for that reason, tho.
That dude had the entire time to let her go when he was there alone…
I was impressed when the Detective said that he felt she hid the gym card so that the police would find it. Intuition, the mother of all intelligence!
What kind of parents raise kids that could do this?!! Our society is doomed if we don't start teaching compassion and love for our fellow citizens including animals and people that aren't like us!! Enough greed and narcissism!
Too late. The loonies have assumed control.
It's all down hill from here.💀
Always my question - what raised these things? Time to start forced sterilization 😡 As a single mom of 3 I can proudly say - my kids are and always have been defenders, not perpetrators. So again - what raised these things?
You sound VERY naïve.
@@terancetheindomitable9701 please elaborate
The loonies are CIA, military and other intel community agents.
Each time l see this clip, l really feel very sad but also angry at these evil deeds. The young lady knew she may probably die painfully so she had to slip her card under the box and wait to die. The fears and anguish she may have been going through before her death is hard to imagine. May she rest in peace.
Yeah it’s sad. I’m just glad for her that Denise made sure those men would be caught given they were stealing her identity. Watching that reenactment the first time made me wish she lived
To think there are people out there that still oppose the death penalty.
It's just as much as murder as stabbing or strangling somebody. Life without parole is a better option
@@alyssafowler9240 No it is NOT. How can you compare a cold blooded, vicious, violent murder of a helpless INNOCENT person to a justifiable execution a GUILTY scumbag. Life sentence is not a better option because keeping someone around who has nothing to loose is just as dangerous in prison as them being out in the streets. I assure you if you just spent one hour in a maximum security prison with the worst offenders, you would want these creatures exterminated just as much. Not to mention the extreme expense to incarcerate one of these animals on a yearly basis and you want them housed for life at our expense. Yeah, that sounds like a great option. Why don't you just have them stay with you since you want them kept alive so bad, sweetheart.
They're called soft, beta Biden voters.
As a taxpayer, I have no plan
on paying these loser's way indefinitely...
Thank you.
The best justice for criminal like these is to release them to the family of the murdered/deceased and let THEM deal with the beasts.
The other two are just as guilty as Luis, because they went along with him ALL the way, even had breakfast afterwards as if they wanted to reward themselves for a job well done. They had plenty of time to get out but they decided not to. Hope they rot in jail. That poor girl must have gone through fear and pain like we can not imagine. In the end, I pray for the mother to have the strength to carry on. Amen.
geez the killers were like the village people. You got the white guy, the black guy, and the hispanic guy.
The missing white guy had an alibi - he was mostly dancing the night away at the Blue Oyster bar.
I thought the same thing.
"Diversity is our strength."
That poor Irish mother. She seems like a lovely lady. If I knew she had burned them alive, as she said, I'd turn a blind eye and help her cover it up. They deserve even worse than that.
Why do you say that the mother is Irish? I think that the mother is American
@@timmarkell402 maybe because of their surname and her looks.
@@timmarkell402 Because of her surname and accent.
@@timmarkell402 Umm...the accent.
She does have the look, the name and accent
Issac blaming his friends.
Denise was living a full and happy life when she encountered an evil monster who needed money. His co conspirators are just as guilt of this horrible crime. What denise thought before she died must have been horrific. These murderers got the sentences they deserved. My heart goes out to denises mother. I feel her pain. I lost my youngest daughter to cancer over 20 years ago. The only way i accept my loss is i know god lent brooke to me for a short time and she was a gift from him. Rest in peace denise.
They’re all dead now except for Isac Brown.
Cabellero died of cancer 10 years ago and Messer died of a drug overdose when he got out of prison
'Butt-tocks' pronunciation by one of the excellent detectives. Same pronunciation by Tom Hanks as "Forrest Gump.'
I remember Forrest talking about someone having been shot in the "Butt-tocks." BTW, I also enjoyed the Boston area speaking by Det. Fraser.
You sound like you're bored!
I noticed the BUTTocks too. Too funny!
Yeah, I was thinking he wasn't a Florida native.
yup Lol
I knew he wasn’t from Florida. I was like he’s got to be from Boston! Little did I know he was! Lol
These men are monsters ....
A lot of men are 😔
Can you even imagine doing such a horrendous act, then casually going out to enjoy a meal! It’s bad enough for one person to be a psycho but for three to find each other!
“What kind of body?”
911 operators aren’t too bright.
I love her response, “a human body”
Luis Caballero died in prison in September 2013 of cancer before he could be executed.
Isac Brown is still in prison serving life without parole.
Robert Messer's 15 year sentence was cut in half on appeal to 7.5 years in 2000, got out in 2002, but went back to prison in 2006 with a ten year sentence for having sex with an underage teenager but died in prison in December 2012 of undisclosed causes.
Where are you getting your info about Messer and his 2006 crime + sentence?
Thank you
@@PeediSigel Florida Department of Corrections website and news articles online.
There is a body in the river. Despatch : what kind of body? A human body!! WTH
A dog 🐕 😊
I’ve watched lots of FF,and this’s the one that hurts me the most
My heart hurts sooo bad for her
The first time I saw that man's interview.. I already felt there was something about him.
The mother has every right to feel the way she does.
What's terrifying is what that one women said, " the police are under pressure to COME UP with a suspect"??? Shouldn't it be "find the actual killer"??!!
*woman
So sad, her last moments were so horrific 😔
Did the operator say what kind of body?🙆💆🤦🧐🤨
I was blown away, well maybe not, but it was still a dumb question.
Its is really neccesary to clarify every everything.becouse in a search matter even a decimal point matters.
*****I love Forensic Files*****
Issac Brown has such a deep and impressionable look into his eyes. I truly believe his role in this was being talked into doing something crazy. He was so young hanging around the wrong people. I wonder where his family is. It hurts my heart because his eyes are so pure.
Pure or not , he is a comd-blooded killer that has zero remorse about killing her ! He is only sorry he is seving time . . . somehow the PURE eye a..holes are more evil than THE mean-eyed ones
Don’t be bringing journalists or reporters to these shows. They speak like they were there when it happened. Just stop it . Rest In Peace to Denise , I feel bad for her mom
3 creeps involved. No chance of rolling on each other. Nah.
I love her job for calling the police most em them would’ve just fired her and went about their day..
I am always extremely impressed with these detectives in almost every single crime i watch and that’s all I do
Disgusting that none of them had the morals to put a stop to it.
Side note: Anne O’Neill has a detectable Irish accent is this common for Irish descendants in America? Of course she may be of first generation - just an interesting observation.
No, it is not unless she is a fırst generation immigrant.
Maybe they were afraid Caballero would sit on them and crush them to death.
She's from East coast of Canada. Probably Newfoundland.
Isac Brown is right IF he means it on the message he sent to all those individuals who don’t know or don’t want to make better choices in life. He realized that too late being incarcerated. Very sad that it happened to him having no criminal records whatsoever. My heart goes out to his family knowing that most likely he will stay in prison for the rest of his life. Very sad and tragic indeed.
If he was there for all of it and did nothing to help, I assure you, he just never got caught.
How can neighbor not heard anything when all of this happen?
Loud tv?
To bad the one that was left alone with Denise didn't let her go once they had her money.
*Too
It was NEVER about the money; at least not for Caballero. Not sure what Isac or the whiteboy got out of it.
He planned the murder and only received 15 years!?!!?
Notice which one only received 15 years!!!🙄
He planed and sentence to death
@@AnastasiaBeaverhousn so sick and tired of the system some times. Keep in mind, the black guy had NO criminal history.
Caballero, the one sentenced to death, planned the murder.
No, Caballero was the one who planned the murder. And he received the death penalty...
"It appears there's a body in the canal by my house"
"What kind of body?"
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I don't know, the human kind perhaps! ROTFL
$6000 phone sex bill?🤔
He was probably calling Russian call girls.
Look at him. He clearly wasn't getting any.
*I love Forensic Files*
In this world there is not complete justice. The complete justice is gonna be on resurrection day/judgement day.
They should let Mom have at them.
**update**Luis Carbonara did 12yrs on death row and died of cancer before his death sentence was satisfied. Even god knew he needed to go ...🤷♂️ RIP pretty lady
Luis Carbonara 💀😅
Just a bit of enlightenment... *god* w/the lowercase "g" refers to false/idol gods & not the Heavenly Father, Creator of All whom u seem 2b referring to in ur comment. I hope u don't take offense bc Im only trying to educate u. Just as us mere mortals always capitalize our names as a show of respect & to demonstrate that we are people, GOD deserves the utmost respect & HIS name should be capitalized & never a lowercase "g". The Holy Scriptures tell us that any reference to a god w/the lowercase "g" is not pertaining to the One & Only Heavenly Father. #MayTheLightOfTruthForeverShine
#AbundantBlessingsOfEnlightenmentToUsAll
#KnowledgeGivesUsPowers
He got off easy.
@@aaprii333 There is no god.
@@traceeteeter9875 Just because u don't believe in GOD, doesn't mean HE doesn't exist. I believe HE does & guess what? We'll ALL find out one day who was right & who was wrong!
To NOT stop or help this poor lady, they’re ALL guilty as sin.
May god never leave them living a normal life ever again.
It's already been mentioned that Caballero died in 2013, but I'm glad Denise's parents were still around to hear the news. From the article:
“The air is bit cleaner today because he is dead,” the victim’s mother, Anne O’Neill, said. “I hope he suffered from the cancer. I hope he got his just rewards. He was a monster."
She said it doesn’t matter to her and her husband, Larry, that Caballero didn’t live long enough to be executed. “I’m just glad he’s dead. I cursed him every single day.”
“Chances are this is where I’ll die, in prison”. Good!
Its sad how the mother said It was so hot and we were freezing, we were cold and yet it was hot , i have no problem casting all the stones. I get her 200%
Anyone concerned about the poor dog
And that poor snake. I bet they both were not treated well.
I'm wondering how the snake survived without the fake rocks.