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i don't have the time or resources to do this atm, but... OMG did this inspire me to want to try a huge triangle and then turn it into a motif style blanket (maybe hexagons) to show them all off in the triangle.
Hi Rebecca yes please definitely try with the crimson, I just purchased a set of these Wilton food colours, so I'm very interested in learning different colourways and seeing what can become of mixing different colours together. Thankyou
I would love to see the crimson as well. I have yet to dye anything myself but your videos make this seem much more approachable. This inspires me to do something at home. Thank you!
I find it really interesting how bright the blue alone is and how it gets so much deeper when either of the other colors are mixed in! The intense breaking on all of the mixes is also really incredible, they look like candy when they're wound in circles (especially the 2p1y1b green). I saw your reply to the comment saying we would love a crimson version, so I'll just wait here excitedly.
Hehehe! I was going to wait until this video came out to film it but then I was too excited and couldn't wait, so I filmed it shortly after this one. :D I plan to wait at least a few weeks before releasing that one since I try to space out super similar videos.
I love the triangle colour mixing videos! I use ProChem acid dyes, but I still would like to see the crimson version of this experiment. I love all your videos and learn so much from them. Thank you, Rebecca!
Thank you, Kari! I hope to do this exercise with the C/M/Y Jacquard colors, some dharma primaries, and then also some fiber reactive.... the list goes on and on and on lol.
Yes please on the crimson!!! I am fairly new to protein dying but I have ALLOT of experience dying with procion fiber reactive dyes on quilting cotton, I would teach color wheel and gradation classes on the process, using both the magenta/cyan/yellow and the red/ blue/yellow "color wheels". So I love seeing how different colorways create the unique differentiation.
YAY! I'm so glad so many of you want to see it since I wanted to see it, too, and it is already filmed. :) It will be at least a few weeks before it comes out, though.
Great news! It is already filmed but it still needs to be edited. :D My plan is for it to come out before the end of 2020. (I want to space it a bit from this one.)
Thanks as always Rebecca for a really informative and fun video. I'm learning so much from watching you as I think about starting on a dyeing journey :-)
I am curious about depth of shade. I was wondering if the pink was less DOS, but when you mentioned how stark yellow was, maybe to get the same DOS you need more like double yellow. It may be interesting combined with a staged color triangle where colors are added as overdye instead of at the start.
Depth of shade is hard to define for food coloring since we don't have an actual idea of the concentration of the stocks. Technically the DOS here is the same for each mini - 5 drops of dye / 20 g of yarn. The difference is the relative intensity of the colors. A 1% DOS of Black acid dyes is going to be a lot more pigmented than a 1% DOS of ivory. So DOS doesn't refer to the actual saturation level as much as how much dye per 100 g - and a way to compare one color with itself. I hope this makes sense and isn't super confusing! The main reason for this type of exercise is to see which colors are more intense when you mix them together - to help you when you're mixing things for custom colors in the future. It could be fun to play around with the intensity of different colors a bit more, but if you look at some of the recipes (1 drop blue for 15 drops yellow!) it could be harder to scale.
And a quick question, the breaking of the pink is beautiful, but is there a way to avoid the breaking and still get a gradient of color? Would one do more of an overdye, with two batches of color, and in the center do 3 separate "dye baths"?
It is REALLY hard to avoid breaking with food coloring. I would start cool with no acid present at all. Add the yarn and move it a lot through the color. Then add a little acid (while still cold) and move the yarn around a lot again. Then increase the heat and add more acid as needed for less breaking. The problem for me is that with my tap water, Red #3 will start to strike to superwash yarn in plain tap water. My tap is slightly acidic and it is enough for the color to start striking.
Oooo this is an interesting idea.... I'm not sure that I'll do this exactly, but I'm writing it down anyway. :D Maybe for a livestream I can do some other variatoins.
The variations within each cup are beautiful, but if you stirred each one immediately would the yarn be a more consistent color, or does it absorb super fast?
The reds absorb super fast. There is no acid in the pots yet. The bigger issue (versus stirring) is the volume and the fact that the yarn is a bit crowded in the pots.
I'd love to see this done with a more 'cyan' blue - maybe just a diluted batch of this blue? - so you could do CMY(K) like a printer ;) Could compare CMYK/RGB/traditional 'primary colours' of red yellow and blue? Theoretically pigments mix best in CMY but I'd be interested to see how it plays out on yarn!
Unfortunately there is really only one blue on this system. Technically Blue #2 is approved in the US but I haven't found it on its own. I plan to do a more "CMY" mix with acid dyes to compare to the RBY that I did with Jacquard.
It absolutely could change the amount of breaking since it reduces the rate of the colors binding overall. I'd just have to make my own non-superwash minis. ;)
I wish that the online guide let you see all of the colors next to each other. It is better than nothing, but I'm bummed they don't put the larger printout in the containers anymore. Crimson is filmed and should be out by the end of 2020.
Awesome! I love seeing how these triangles end up! I love colour theory, & have also thought about do more study into it. Have you looked at the School of Sweet Georgia & their online course on colour theory? I think Aroha Knits also does a colour theory study... I love the variations/breaking that the food colouring gives. Definitely do more of these colour triangles!!
Hello Rebecca! It’s me, KnittedKneil! I actually have a question on this one- would it be useful to try these dyes using relative DOS for each dye type. I imagine starting at what would make the true secondary color- for example green which is 30 yellow:1 blue and then moving back to 20 yellow:1 blue, 10 yellow:1blue and then 1 blue. Not sure how to best keep total dye the same without perhaps diluting the blue DOS in half in an empty squeeze bottle?
The exercise you proposed could be a good one to try if you wanted to create a balanced rainbow. However, the main purpose of the exercise in this video wasn't to create balance exactly, but to understand the relative potency of each of the colors. DOS (Depth of shade) refers to the amount of dye in grams per weight of fiber. Technically, the DOS of all of these samples is the same if we're considering the stock solutions equivalent. We don't know the actual concentration or weight of each of the colors, so I define these as the # drops per weight of yarn if that makes sense. As another example - a 1% DOS (1 g dye per 100 g yarn) for a Black acid dye is going to be a lot more pigmented than a 1% DOS of a silver gray dye. Yes - there is technically more pigment in the Black dye, but the DOS looks at the actual weight of the dye (vs the actual amount of dye molecules.) So DOS is really a comparison of the level of color from one particular dye to itself. In the triangle exercise, we're exploring the intensity of each of the colors to understand the proportions to use for mixing them together. So if I wanted to create a balanced rainbow with these colors, I would up the amount of pink and yellow dye that I use compared to the blue. This is a super long answer... but ultimately, yes. You can change the concentration of the dyes or the rules of the exercise to make the colors feel more balanced. You can even set it up in the same triangle system, but you just want to define some rules for consistency.
@@ChemKnitsTutorials Thank you so much for clarifying the definition of depth of shade in these terms! I understood it as a measurement of saturation or value of a color to yarn, missing the fact that it is only describing a concentration relationship of dye to fiber which correlates saturation but does not describe it directly (such as yellow 1% or 2% DOS v. blue 1% or 2% DOS). I feel as if a piece of a puzzle just plop’d into place! X particles of dye (by# drops or grams of powder) is as a whole the same in this exercise but the fact that everything errs blue reveals that dye much stronger (more potent/pigmented)!!! This experiment can quickly describe pigmentation in comparison to dissimilar color bases (red v. blue, yellow v. ecru) rather than say black v .grey which you could develop a fairly accurate hypothesis without experimentation. This is useful especially as an indie dyer. When I dye ombré colorways rather than gradients, I often need to empirically establish a pigmentation relationship between each color I use by using a skein from my stock, and dividing mini batches by DOS for each color I’m using (1/2/3/4% DOS for yellow, then blue, then red, etc.) and “eyeballing” it when say 3% DOS yellow is about the same saturation of 1% DOS blue and going with that (per yarn base by fiber content, ugh). When I’m building a one off colorway I find the exercise a bit tedious, and end up just measuring ten thousandths of a gram of dye and building up the color transitions from there(arduous but fun). BAH. Honestly it’s my absolutely favorite when you talk in these terms and I always get a bit over excited. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK YOUR EAR OFF (fingers off?)
I would actually like to see how it comes out doing a secondary color triangle. Especially since you mention that it might be difficult to come up with a brown or a black.
This would be a fun project, but hard to do with this specific system of only 8 colors. The only green and purple options are mixtures of other colors. However, I am very interested in this mixing exercise! Even brown food coloring can lean fairly pink or green. (Mainly due to breaking.)
@@joanarnold82 I'd still like to play with some triangles of some non primaries. Maybe with acid dyes and start with an orange purple and green to see how the hues shift. That would be super fun.
Can you please do a triangle mix with three non primary colors? Maybe an acid dye. Maybe using a combo like Fawn, Peacock blue, Deep magenta? or any of them tbh. i would love to see the variety of subtle brown/neutral/grey tones that would be created. Or maybe even a color family like Fluorescent Fuchsia, Intense Iris and Lilac.
This is a plan of mine for sure! I think first I want to still try the CMY jacquard triangle (turquoise fushcia and yellow) but then yes Id love to use it to explore other colors.
@@ChemKnitsTutorials I'm not surprised at at all Rebecca! you have enough ideas to release a new video every hour for the next 6 months without break. The other thing that i've been thinking about a lot is a Sad triangle. You know in the olden days with vegetable dying they would add a metal mordent to actually dull the the colours and would call it a sad colour. What about a triangle with a sad master colour? So like a silver grey or a taupe dye but each pot gets some. Maybe even just a quarter or half teaspoon of a 0.5% stock solution. Ok.... I need to stop writing comments and start dying. :)
Ty out *could* but I don't think I would. The tablets are pretty expensive compared to liquid food coloring and this could take a lot to really mix. I do have a video where I look at the single tablet colors from 5 different pass kits to see the range, though.
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Definitely repeat with the crimson! These are gorgeous but I'd love to see the difference with a more intense red!
This may or may not already be filmed. ;)
@@ChemKnitsTutorials Yaaaaassss!
That broken green with the pink is STUNNING!! I really enjoy these types of videos, thank you!
You are so welcome! I've got more planned for the future. :D
LOVE when you play with color.
thank you so much!
More mixing triangles! Crimson, yesss
By the end of 2020 for sure!!
All the colours are beautiful! Wow!
Thank you so much!
Nice job. Some very pretty colors and nice to know how certain mixes come out.
Thank you!
I like all the outside colors of the triangle myself.... Thanks!
You’re welcome 😊 I tend to like those colors a lot myself. :D
All the colors are gorgeous.
Thank you! I loved being able to see all of these come out of 3 colors.
Yes to the crimson!!
YAY! I was so excited and curious that I filmed crimson already. :D I will compare these results to the CYB mixtures at the end of hte video.
i don't have the time or resources to do this atm, but...
OMG did this inspire me to want to try a huge triangle and then turn it into a motif style blanket (maybe hexagons) to show them all off in the triangle.
This sounds AMAZING!!!!!!
Love the rainbow while you were washing! I'd love to see it with crimson.
Coming soon!
I love this type of experiment! I wonder too about the crimson combo. :)
It is filmed!
Hi Rebecca yes please definitely try with the crimson, I just purchased a set of these Wilton food colours, so I'm very interested in learning different colourways and seeing what can become of mixing different colours together. Thankyou
The video is filmed and is in the queue to be edited. My goal is before the end of 2020.
Beautiful colors!
Thank you!
Wow! Beautiful!
Thank you! 😊
I would love to see the crimson as well. I have yet to dye anything myself but your videos make this seem much more approachable. This inspires me to do something at home. Thank you!
I'm so glad! This is my goal for sure - to make things feel approachable.
oh I love the breaking in the colours in the middle - very interesting
Thank you! I LOVE LOVE LOVE them.
Another vote for repeating with crimson!
YAY!
Please repeat with crimson. Love the blues and greens, though they are all beautiful.
Thank you! and I will!
I find it really interesting how bright the blue alone is and how it gets so much deeper when either of the other colors are mixed in! The intense breaking on all of the mixes is also really incredible, they look like candy when they're wound in circles (especially the 2p1y1b green). I saw your reply to the comment saying we would love a crimson version, so I'll just wait here excitedly.
Hehehe! I was going to wait until this video came out to film it but then I was too excited and couldn't wait, so I filmed it shortly after this one. :D I plan to wait at least a few weeks before releasing that one since I try to space out super similar videos.
I love the triangle colour mixing videos! I use ProChem acid dyes, but I still would like to see the crimson version of this experiment. I love all your videos and learn so much from them. Thank you, Rebecca!
Thank you, Kari! I hope to do this exercise with the C/M/Y Jacquard colors, some dharma primaries, and then also some fiber reactive.... the list goes on and on and on lol.
Truly beautiful
Thank you!
Yes please on the crimson!!! I am fairly new to protein dying but I have ALLOT of experience dying with procion fiber reactive dyes on quilting cotton, I would teach color wheel and gradation classes on the process, using both the magenta/cyan/yellow and the red/ blue/yellow "color wheels". So I love seeing how different colorways create the unique differentiation.
There may already be another video filmed. ;) In that video, I compare the results from the P/B/Y to the C/B/Y. :D
Love these color mixing videos. Yes, more!!
You got it!
Wow! I would love to see the crimson
YAY! I'm so glad so many of you want to see it since I wanted to see it, too, and it is already filmed. :) It will be at least a few weeks before it comes out, though.
Yes, let's see the triangle with crimson.
Great news! It is already filmed but it still needs to be edited. :D My plan is for it to come out before the end of 2020. (I want to space it a bit from this one.)
Makes me want to make a big rainbow blanket
I've thought about trying to do 100 different colors for a project sometime. :D
I would love to see more variations. This was a great deal of fun 😀
Definitely!! And thank yoU!
Would love to see you dye many many more colors! This mixture was totally beautiful.
Thank you so much! I love setting these up a LOT!
Yes, please repeat with crimson
I did! :D ua-cam.com/video/C-5EVriZnHk/v-deo.html
Really enjoyable and interesting. Loved the colours and the effects of the breaking.
Thank you very much!
Beautiful 👍👍
Thank you so much 😊
Thanks as always Rebecca for a really informative and fun video. I'm learning so much from watching you as I think about starting on a dyeing journey :-)
You are so welcome!
Definitely an experiment I would like to try! :) Amazing colors!
You should! I am finding this SO USEFUL and want to do it with all of my dyes.
Color mixing with shades of purple Rebecca!!!
OOOOO! yes!
This is really amazing and gorgeous! thanks for the good content 😁
My pleasure 😊
this video is awesome
Thank you!
I am curious about depth of shade. I was wondering if the pink was less DOS, but when you mentioned how stark yellow was, maybe to get the same DOS you need more like double yellow. It may be interesting combined with a staged color triangle where colors are added as overdye instead of at the start.
Depth of shade is hard to define for food coloring since we don't have an actual idea of the concentration of the stocks. Technically the DOS here is the same for each mini - 5 drops of dye / 20 g of yarn.
The difference is the relative intensity of the colors. A 1% DOS of Black acid dyes is going to be a lot more pigmented than a 1% DOS of ivory. So DOS doesn't refer to the actual saturation level as much as how much dye per 100 g - and a way to compare one color with itself.
I hope this makes sense and isn't super confusing!
The main reason for this type of exercise is to see which colors are more intense when you mix them together - to help you when you're mixing things for custom colors in the future. It could be fun to play around with the intensity of different colors a bit more, but if you look at some of the recipes (1 drop blue for 15 drops yellow!) it could be harder to scale.
I would love to see it with the crimson!
It is a lot of fun to do this again with slightly different colors. That video is filmed with a goal of sometime in 2020 for publication.
And a quick question, the breaking of the pink is beautiful, but is there a way to avoid the breaking and still get a gradient of color? Would one do more of an overdye, with two batches of color, and in the center do 3 separate "dye baths"?
It is REALLY hard to avoid breaking with food coloring. I would start cool with no acid present at all. Add the yarn and move it a lot through the color. Then add a little acid (while still cold) and move the yarn around a lot again. Then increase the heat and add more acid as needed for less breaking.
The problem for me is that with my tap water, Red #3 will start to strike to superwash yarn in plain tap water. My tap is slightly acidic and it is enough for the color to start striking.
@@ChemKnitsTutorials thank you!
I would love to see this done again, but with double the amount of pink and yellow to blue. So 4 drops blue but 8 drops pink and yellow.
Oooo this is an interesting idea.... I'm not sure that I'll do this exactly, but I'm writing it down anyway. :D Maybe for a livestream I can do some other variatoins.
The variations within each cup are beautiful, but if you stirred each one immediately would the yarn be a more consistent color, or does it absorb super fast?
The reds absorb super fast. There is no acid in the pots yet. The bigger issue (versus stirring) is the volume and the fact that the yarn is a bit crowded in the pots.
Thank you for your videos. I learn allot. . . You and your “But” 😂
Oh goodness. I say that a lot. Thank you so much for watching. :D
I'd love to see this done with a more 'cyan' blue - maybe just a diluted batch of this blue? - so you could do CMY(K) like a printer ;) Could compare CMYK/RGB/traditional 'primary colours' of red yellow and blue? Theoretically pigments mix best in CMY but I'd be interested to see how it plays out on yarn!
Unfortunately there is really only one blue on this system. Technically Blue #2 is approved in the US but I haven't found it on its own. I plan to do a more "CMY" mix with acid dyes to compare to the RBY that I did with Jacquard.
Would using non superwash change the amount of breaking, especially with the pinks?? These are all gorgeous ❤️
It absolutely could change the amount of breaking since it reduces the rate of the colors binding overall. I'd just have to make my own non-superwash minis. ;)
I NEEDED this!!!
The "guide" online isn't that helpful.
Yes please, use crimson!!
I wish that the online guide let you see all of the colors next to each other. It is better than nothing, but I'm bummed they don't put the larger printout in the containers anymore. Crimson is filmed and should be out by the end of 2020.
Awesome! I love seeing how these triangles end up!
I love colour theory, & have also thought about do more study into it.
Have you looked at the School of Sweet Georgia & their online course on colour theory? I think Aroha Knits also does a colour theory study...
I love the variations/breaking that the food colouring gives.
Definitely do more of these colour triangles!!
I haven't looked up the Sweet georgia color theory course, but I need to bookmark that. Someone else mentioned them ot me as a resource recently.
@@ChemKnitsTutorials I’ve heard they are pretty good.
I follow them on Insta.
100% do a crimson dye triangle!
YAY thank you!
Hello Rebecca! It’s me, KnittedKneil! I actually have a question on this one- would it be useful to try these dyes using relative DOS for each dye type. I imagine starting at what would make the true secondary color- for example green which is 30 yellow:1 blue and then moving back to 20 yellow:1 blue, 10 yellow:1blue and then 1 blue. Not sure how to best keep total dye the same without perhaps diluting the blue DOS in half in an empty squeeze bottle?
The exercise you proposed could be a good one to try if you wanted to create a balanced rainbow. However, the main purpose of the exercise in this video wasn't to create balance exactly, but to understand the relative potency of each of the colors.
DOS (Depth of shade) refers to the amount of dye in grams per weight of fiber. Technically, the DOS of all of these samples is the same if we're considering the stock solutions equivalent. We don't know the actual concentration or weight of each of the colors, so I define these as the # drops per weight of yarn if that makes sense.
As another example - a 1% DOS (1 g dye per 100 g yarn) for a Black acid dye is going to be a lot more pigmented than a 1% DOS of a silver gray dye. Yes - there is technically more pigment in the Black dye, but the DOS looks at the actual weight of the dye (vs the actual amount of dye molecules.) So DOS is really a comparison of the level of color from one particular dye to itself.
In the triangle exercise, we're exploring the intensity of each of the colors to understand the proportions to use for mixing them together. So if I wanted to create a balanced rainbow with these colors, I would up the amount of pink and yellow dye that I use compared to the blue.
This is a super long answer... but ultimately, yes. You can change the concentration of the dyes or the rules of the exercise to make the colors feel more balanced. You can even set it up in the same triangle system, but you just want to define some rules for consistency.
@@ChemKnitsTutorials Thank you so much for clarifying the definition of depth of shade in these terms! I understood it as a measurement of saturation or value of a color to yarn, missing the fact that it is only describing a concentration relationship of dye to fiber which correlates saturation but does not describe it directly (such as yellow 1% or 2% DOS v. blue 1% or 2% DOS). I feel as if a piece of a puzzle just plop’d into place! X particles of dye (by# drops or grams of powder) is as a whole the same in this exercise but the fact that everything errs blue reveals that dye much stronger (more potent/pigmented)!!! This experiment can quickly describe pigmentation in comparison to dissimilar color bases (red v. blue, yellow v. ecru) rather than say black v .grey which you could develop a fairly accurate hypothesis without experimentation. This is useful especially as an indie dyer. When I dye ombré colorways rather than gradients, I often need to empirically establish a pigmentation relationship between each color I use by using a skein from my stock, and dividing mini batches by DOS for each color I’m using (1/2/3/4% DOS for yellow, then blue, then red, etc.) and “eyeballing” it when say 3% DOS yellow is about the same saturation of 1% DOS blue and going with that (per yarn base by fiber content, ugh). When I’m building a one off colorway I find the exercise a bit tedious, and end up just measuring ten thousandths of a gram of dye and building up the color transitions from there(arduous but fun). BAH. Honestly it’s my absolutely favorite when you talk in these terms and I always get a bit over excited. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK YOUR EAR OFF (fingers off?)
@@knittedkneil7077 Awe!
Can we do mixing with the three primaries of the powder dyes????
I didn't do this with straight powders - but I made 1% stock solutions with three primaries from jacquard. I plan to look at the CMY colors too.
I would actually like to see how it comes out doing a secondary color triangle. Especially since you mention that it might be difficult to come up with a brown or a black.
This would be a fun project, but hard to do with this specific system of only 8 colors. The only green and purple options are mixtures of other colors. However, I am very interested in this mixing exercise!
Even brown food coloring can lean fairly pink or green. (Mainly due to breaking.)
@@ChemKnitsTutorials it doesn't have to be a full triangle like this was. Maybe just 1 mix between each side, and the middle mix with all three...
@@joanarnold82 I'd still like to play with some triangles of some non primaries. Maybe with acid dyes and start with an orange purple and green to see how the hues shift. That would be super fun.
please do the crimson as well!!
It is filmed! I'll release it before the end of the year. Another acid dye mixing video is coming in a few weeks. :D
Can you please do a triangle mix with three non primary colors? Maybe an acid dye. Maybe using a combo like Fawn, Peacock blue, Deep magenta? or any of them tbh. i would love to see the variety of subtle brown/neutral/grey tones that would be created. Or maybe even a color family like Fluorescent Fuchsia, Intense Iris and Lilac.
This is a plan of mine for sure! I think first I want to still try the CMY jacquard triangle (turquoise fushcia and yellow) but then yes Id love to use it to explore other colors.
I've already filmed the other color right triangle I mentioned here. It is sitting in the editing queue.
@@ChemKnitsTutorials I'm not surprised at at all Rebecca! you have enough ideas to release a new video every hour for the next 6 months without break. The other thing that i've been thinking about a lot is a Sad triangle. You know in the olden days with vegetable dying they would add a metal mordent to actually dull the the colours and would call it a sad colour. What about a triangle with a sad master colour? So like a silver grey or a taupe dye but each pot gets some. Maybe even just a quarter or half teaspoon of a 0.5% stock solution. Ok.... I need to stop writing comments and start dying. :)
Could you do color mixing like this with Easter egg tablets?
Ty out *could* but I don't think I would. The tablets are pretty expensive compared to liquid food coloring and this could take a lot to really mix. I do have a video where I look at the single tablet colors from 5 different pass kits to see the range, though.
I was surprised that there was a noticeable difference between blue and blue and 1drop of red or yellow.
I wasn't surprised exactly, but i love seeing the subtle changes.