The fact that Tyson didnt fight Bowe Mercer Morrison Ibeabuchi Tua or Foreman and lost to Holyfield and Lewis doesn't make him a Goat at all ALI fought all the Top Dogs of his Day.
Bowe quit after Tyson came back from prison,Ibeabuchi also quit quickly because of his psychological problems and only became a boxer after seeing Douglas vs Tyson where he was already in decline,Tua started pro boxing in 1992 where Tyson was imprisoned and after the Holyfield incident in 1997 he was banned from several boxing shows and therefore couldn't fight the greats because his license was confiscated. Tommy Morrisson ? Began his pro career 3 years after Mike Tyson and was in prison in the 1990s like Tyson, but contracted HIV in '96 and was sidelined from the big circuit until 2007 (Tyson had stopped his career in 2005). Ray Mercer? Turned pro in 1989 (2 years later Tyson went to prison) and left his belt vacant after his win over Morrison and loss to Larry Holmes, whom Tyson destroyed in 1988. Lewis ? Was destroyed by Tyson when he was 17 in front of cus d'amato and didn't turn pro until 1989 and dodged Tyson later when Tyson got out of prison HBO rights and certain boxing-related contract clauses meant Lewis couldn't fight Tyson because Don King paid Lewis without Tyson's knowledge, and finally they fought in 2002 when, strangely enough, Tyson had become a shadow of his former self and Lewis, despite being a year older, was in very good shape with amateur-style boxing and an excellent training team,Tyson, without training, had only come for the money and on hard drugs. In short, you can talk, but you don't know anything about boxing. Finally, Tyson could only be HIS OWN trainer, because without Cus and Rooney, he couldn't do anything with his Bob and Weave.
For Foreman, he should have fought Mike Tyson, but Ali told him to stay away from Tyson. Foreman was aware that he could lose to a boxer like Tyson even after prison, but he could have won,He was originally supposed to have fought Foreman in 1990 instead of Buster Douglas, but once again Don King did everything he could to make it an easy title defense for Tyson, knowing that he was neglecting boxing more and more and spending his time screwing, doing drugs and going to clubs, all without Rooney. Foreman, too, said he was more afraid of Don than of Tyson. They had already met several times, and both were equally afraid of each other. It would have been a good fight if it had happened, but with his condition in '90, Tyson would certainly have lost, but knowing Tyson, he might have secretly asked for Rooney's help, because Foreman was a legend on the circuit, unlike Douglas, who was a nasty surprise.
@@Charismaniac Tyson schooled mccall who knocked out Lewis in sparring,Greg page only won because Tyson was out of shape in 1990 before the loss to Douglas,no training,did nothing but drink and fuck and go to clubs,didn't sleep spent his time with women,at the time Page was WBA champion and had already sparred with the Great Ali well anyway same thing tyson would have responded better if he was focused and if he had rooney with him. For hasim rahman he won against Lewis in a controversial fight but Lewis had a trial and won against hasim to be able to activate a rematch which he had and won,tyson would have had a title shot against him but instead it was lewis,anyway even against Hasim he would surely have lost because in 2001 he Was finished
Bowe was a physical specimen to say the least. Ali was so much more than just that. Just a different caliber fighter, Bowe simply wouldnt know what to do with Ali. End of story.
Muhammad Ali already beat all the big monsters in the ring ( knockout machines) tht every other fighter feared , why would Riddick bowe be an exception ? Muhammad Ali would beat all of them when he put his mind to it because Ali was on a whole different level.
@@ivanayala9501of his era only,never fought guys as advanced in 80s-90s,he had trouble with karl/cooper/Frazier these guys style were very basic and flawed compared to guys in 80s-90s who advanced those styles by alot
@@ascendediam Are you saying that the men Ali had trouble with were rubbish ? Any top 10 fighter from the 70s upwards would give trouble to anyone in any era. But Ali beat ALL, yes, ALL the top fighters of his day. Bowe did not.
@@truthhitman7473 interesting you say that the video on my page shows a no-name amateur pressure fighter/pro fighter way more advanced at that style than Joe was joe looks horrible and very easy to read ali is in that video to, I'll have mutiple guys who advanced his style by alot in '80s-90s, wanna retract that lie you said with no evidence of them facing guys as advanced as guys from 80s-now? And the top fighters don't matter only the average fighter matters and for a fact to Karl/cooper were very basic and flawed as I said and gave ali trouble, guys who had Karl and Cooper style in 80s now advanced those styles by alot, see how you're full of holes a young Ali
Mohammad Ali all day long although Riddick was one of the most talented heavyweight of all time he just had unrealized potential because he did not have the dedication level he needed to
Great fight, that almost certainly goes the distance. Even if Bowe won on points, which he could, the judges would give it to Ali, like they did many times.
Bowe wouldn’t be a match for Ali. The more dangerous an opponent is, the more lethal Muhammad Ali becomes. As boxing never saw a prime Ali, it’s hard to predict what a prime Ali would have done to a prime Bowe. What I have seen of Ali, he was well equipped to see off Bowe as wished.
wrong ali never fought anybody as advanced as bowe or his style Bows already fought a way more advanced Ali name Tyrell Ali looks very basic and flawed so no wouldnt last long
@@ascendediam No heavyweight boxer to date is as good as Muhammad Ali. Bowe is simply not in Ali’s class as a fighter. Muhammad Ali had a unique style that no other fighter had - Sugar Ray Robinson an exception.
@@ascendediam Some of the descriptions you have given of their styles are different. Ali had a unique style that gave him over a hundred wins at amateur level, and 56 wins as a professional against the best heavyweights ever - with 5 losses in which he avenged three of them. Compare that to Biggs’s 30 professional wins and 10 losses - knocked out 7 times against fighters of his era that were not as good as Ali’s. Please, have a rethink.
@@ascendediam Biggs had 30 victories and, had 10 losses - 7 of them by knockout. Compare that to Ali’s 56 wins of which 37 came by way of a knockout. He lost five times and avenged 3 of them. Ali was the heavyweight champion three times with victories against some of the top heavyweights ever known to boxing. Biggs never had one world title fight and, had never performed on the level that Ali took for granted. You are entitled to believe what you want but, you wouldn’t get far with a good student of boxing with the kind of facts you’ve brought to this debate.
@@ascendediam Tyrell Biggs did not fight for the World Heavyweight Title and that makes him an inferior fighter to even Tyson Fury and Oleksander Usyk - never mind Muhammad Ali.
The fact that Tyson didnt fight Bowe Mercer Morrison Ibeabuchi Tua or Foreman and lost to Holyfield and Lewis doesn't make him a Goat at all ALI fought all the Top Dogs of his Day.
He also didn't want anything to do with McCall, Ibeabuchi or Rahman. Greg Page floored him in sparring too and this was during Tyson's prime.
Bowe quit after Tyson came back from prison,Ibeabuchi also quit quickly because of his psychological problems and only became a boxer after seeing Douglas vs Tyson where he was already in decline,Tua started pro boxing in 1992 where Tyson was imprisoned and after the Holyfield incident in 1997 he was banned from several boxing shows and therefore couldn't fight the greats because his license was confiscated.
Tommy Morrisson ? Began his pro career 3 years after Mike Tyson and was in prison in the 1990s like Tyson, but contracted HIV in '96 and was sidelined from the big circuit until 2007 (Tyson had stopped his career in 2005).
Ray Mercer? Turned pro in 1989 (2 years later Tyson went to prison) and left his belt vacant after his win over Morrison and loss to Larry Holmes, whom Tyson destroyed in 1988.
Lewis ? Was destroyed by Tyson when he was 17 in front of cus d'amato and didn't turn pro until 1989 and dodged Tyson later when Tyson got out of prison HBO rights and certain boxing-related contract clauses meant Lewis couldn't fight Tyson because Don King paid Lewis without Tyson's knowledge, and finally they fought in 2002 when, strangely enough, Tyson had become a shadow of his former self and Lewis, despite being a year older, was in very good shape with amateur-style boxing and an excellent training team,Tyson, without training, had only come for the money and on hard drugs. In short, you can talk, but you don't know anything about boxing. Finally, Tyson could only be HIS OWN trainer, because without Cus and Rooney, he couldn't do anything with his Bob and Weave.
For Foreman, he should have fought Mike Tyson, but Ali told him to stay away from Tyson. Foreman was aware that he could lose to a boxer like Tyson even after prison, but he could have won,He was originally supposed to have fought Foreman in 1990 instead of Buster Douglas, but once again Don King did everything he could to make it an easy title defense for Tyson, knowing that he was neglecting boxing more and more and spending his time screwing, doing drugs and going to clubs, all without Rooney.
Foreman, too, said he was more afraid of Don than of Tyson. They had already met several times, and both were equally afraid of each other. It would have been a good fight if it had happened, but with his condition in '90, Tyson would certainly have lost, but knowing Tyson, he might have secretly asked for Rooney's help, because Foreman was a legend on the circuit, unlike Douglas, who was a nasty surprise.
@@Charismaniac Tyson schooled mccall who knocked out Lewis in sparring,Greg page only won because Tyson was out of shape in 1990 before the loss to Douglas,no training,did nothing but drink and fuck and go to clubs,didn't sleep spent his time with women,at the time Page was WBA champion and had already sparred with the Great Ali well anyway same thing tyson would have responded better if he was focused and if he had rooney with him.
For hasim rahman he won against Lewis in a controversial fight but Lewis had a trial and won against hasim to be able to activate a rematch which he had and won,tyson would have had a title shot against him but instead it was lewis,anyway even against Hasim he would surely have lost because in 2001 he Was finished
Bowe was a physical specimen to say the least.
Ali was so much more than just that. Just a different caliber fighter, Bowe simply wouldnt know what to do with Ali. End of story.
Ali would be destroyed
Ali was very outdated compared to guys in 80s,he would be destroyed you've exposed yourself stop
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@@j_ko9 messed up in the head person
@@j_ko9 find a way to make you're fiction ali come to life
Muhammad Ali already beat all the big monsters in the ring ( knockout machines) tht every other fighter feared , why would Riddick bowe be an exception ? Muhammad Ali would beat all of them when he put his mind to it because Ali was on a whole different level.
Ali venció a todos los grandes, incluso, estado fuera de su prime. Ali is the greatest
@@ivanayala9501of his era only,never fought guys as advanced in 80s-90s,he had trouble with karl/cooper/Frazier these guys style were very basic and flawed compared to guys in 80s-90s who advanced those styles by alot
@@ascendediam Are you saying that the men Ali had trouble with were rubbish ? Any top 10 fighter from the 70s upwards would give trouble to anyone in any era. But Ali beat ALL, yes, ALL the top fighters of his day. Bowe did not.
@@truthhitman7473 interesting you say that the video on my page shows a no-name amateur pressure fighter/pro fighter way more advanced at that style than Joe was joe looks horrible and very easy to read
ali is in that video to, I'll have mutiple guys who advanced his style by alot in '80s-90s, wanna retract that lie you said with no evidence of them facing guys as advanced as guys from 80s-now?
And the top fighters don't matter only the average fighter matters and for a fact to Karl/cooper were very basic and flawed as I said and gave ali trouble, guys who had Karl and Cooper style in 80s now advanced those styles by alot, see how you're full of holes a young Ali
Ali would have destroyed Bowe
Mohammad Ali all day long although Riddick was one of the most talented heavyweight of all time he just had unrealized potential because he did not have the dedication level he needed to
Ali loses never fought anybody like bowe,bowe beat way more advanced ver of him
Great fight, that almost certainly goes the distance. Even if Bowe won on points, which he could, the judges would give it to Ali, like they did many times.
Bows already fought a way more advanced Ali name Tyrell Ali looks very basic and flawed so no wouldnt last long
Bowe wouldn’t be a match for Ali. The more dangerous an opponent is, the more lethal Muhammad Ali becomes. As boxing never saw a prime Ali, it’s hard to predict what a prime Ali would have done to a prime Bowe. What I have seen of Ali, he was well equipped to see off Bowe as wished.
wrong ali never fought anybody as advanced as bowe or his style
Bows already fought a way more advanced Ali name Tyrell Ali looks very basic and flawed so no wouldnt last long
@@ascendediam No heavyweight boxer to date is as good as Muhammad Ali. Bowe is simply not in Ali’s class as a fighter. Muhammad Ali had a unique style that no other fighter had - Sugar Ray Robinson an exception.
@@ascendediam Some of the descriptions you have given of their styles are different. Ali had a unique style that gave him over a hundred wins at amateur level, and 56 wins as a professional against the best heavyweights ever - with 5 losses in which he avenged three of them. Compare that to Biggs’s 30 professional wins and 10 losses - knocked out 7 times against fighters of his era that were not as good as Ali’s. Please, have a rethink.
@@ascendediam Biggs had 30 victories and, had 10 losses - 7 of them by knockout. Compare that to Ali’s 56 wins of which 37 came by way of a knockout. He lost five times and avenged 3 of them. Ali was the heavyweight champion three times with victories against some of the top heavyweights ever known to boxing. Biggs never had one world title fight and, had never performed on the level that Ali took for granted. You are entitled to believe what you want but, you wouldn’t get far with a good student of boxing with the kind of facts you’ve brought to this debate.
@@ascendediam Tyrell Biggs did not fight for the World Heavyweight Title and that makes him an inferior fighter to even Tyson Fury and Oleksander Usyk - never mind Muhammad Ali.
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