About the "weird arragements" skrillex is doing music with a musician mindset, and not like a DJ thinking in 4/8/16 bars to mix a breakdown into a buildup in a dj set
@@ohno6325 No it's true.. we often try and "do too much" as i like to say to fix a track that isn't that great, recently I've gotten better at noticing when I'm forcing a track and I just instantly delete it and move tf on
I think the key in simple/minimalistic tracks is defining a really strong main element and making it either evolve over time, or "fill the mix" (imo every element should have a purpose and not just be thrown as filler) with really subtle elements that complement the sonic picture of the chosen main element
I also think part of the 5 parts to 3 parts trick in "Supersonic" has to do with subverting your listeners' expectations. It really makes that 2nd drop hit harder when it feels earlier. He does this a couple more times in the album like on "Inhale Exhale"
Especially the part about mono vocals is interesting imo. It somehow evokes the feeling of a limited production from the beginnings of electronic music, assuming you only have a handful of tracks to use. The priority is not the voice but the basses and sounds around it, so it gets less attention by only having a mono instead of a stereo channel dedicated for it. Reminds me of the old school dubstep or UK Garage stuff, Burial for example. As if you used a file sharing app to download a crappy mono rip of a CD of which you sampled the vocals. But without the crappy compression. tl;dr: nostalgia
At the moment, I've actually started making all my music in mono (using a stereo imager and reducing the width). I'll change back to stereo every now and then to see how it's shaping up, but it helps me to focus on tone and song structure, instead of the exact placement of sounds. The mono mixing of vocals also helps with radio play. While stereo vox sounds amazing in headphones, radio stations/car stereos/ phone speakers can end up cutting out that end, and just give you mono instead. While most producers just want their music loud, it's better to focus on dynamics, because that's more interesting to the ear. I don't doubt that Skrillex carefully produces with dynamics, but not too much that the mix is ruined. Great vid, man, keep it up :)
it's not so much what elements you pick, but how they harmonise and how it fits together. Context is the be all end all really. If you only have a handful of sounds but they all slap and fit together perfectly you can do a lot with that.
His simplistic tracks are great because, and I know you don’t wanna hear this, 99% of the time when an edm producer makes it complicated they are sitting at their computers for hours and since they’re listening to the song their making for hours it’s browning and there needs to be more stuff. More stuff gets added and for a person that listened for 3 mins it’s just way too much, too many changes, too many things, and the song gets ruined
Yeah thats a problem for sure. Thats why its good not to overlisten and make sure you work quickly. If you listen too much it seems stale and you end up adding more stuff.
F for my dumb ass that purchased Volcano right away when it dropped without knowing of the 'Rumble' code discount 😭 Btw dope video as always, and the Volcano pack is pure FIRE, keep killin it
Also I think it’s good to make minimalistic stuff as well as complex. Complex stuff is important to distinguish your music from typical sounds and happy accidents arise from complexity, it’s like a science experiment. But yeah sometimes you have to know when to scrap an experiment that’s doomed
You can take the seperation between Vocals and Instrumental a bit further by using a plugin like soothe with sidechaining only the sides of the vocals. So the instrumental ducks down the stereo signal of the vocals in a dynamic way but you still got some stereo signal left which differs from the instrumental.
so it makes sense to use the Utility or the "Tool" in my case to turn the gain up in Bitwig after the compressor or limiter if I want it loud without destroying the dynamics?
Yeah, that's what's called a makeup gain. You first compress the tops and by that make the sound quieter and then boost the gain to bring the volume back, but now it's perceived louder. Some compressors have makeup gains or gain match, like Ozone on the video, although they're not fully accurate
9:30 next time pls give a disclaimer before* this I'm not* epileptic but it made my whole brain feel pain It literally made my head cloudy I was writing bullshit XD
Yo desde hace tiempo uso el truco de mantener la dinámica, así hago que el drop suene con más fuerza, eso lo aprendí escuchando un track de Kaizo y otro de Arcthurians, los demás tíos si no los aplicaba pero es muy bueno saber todo esto de parte del gran Skrillex y que tu nos traigas está conclusión sobre sus álbumes, en serio eres un genio 💛💛💛
YOO BROO I JUST SAW ALAN WALKER USE UR SAMPLES THAT'S SUCH A PROUD MOMENT IT'S IN THE VIDEO WHERE HE MAKES TRACK IN 100HRS OMG CAN'T BELIEVE EVEN HE LOVES UR SAMPLES WOAH WOAH WOAH CONGRATS🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
one thing that is very interesting is how low-mid heavy the mixes are. comparing it with his older stuff or dance music in general, Most mixes cut alot of 300-800 hz and are very present in the highs. his approach is quiet the opposite, focusing mostly on the low-mid harmonics and not being overly screechy. Which also gives more room for the few elements that do sit in the high end. Absolute genius
@@7ars471 its not like its the first time this has ever been done in history. And plus there are two other producers on the album…..not all the tracks were his ideas
I don't understand the first trick. So it means keep vibes with only small changes in whole song? But the 2examples you show (breakdown after drop) seems quiet dramatic change to me. And 1song contains the changes like the 2 examples. So what's the point?? can someone help?
@@prodbydramatic yeah thanks bro. i was overthinking man. i know that there's no rule but i wanted to understand Oversampled's intention in first trick. Anyway, thanks bro
He did. Now he's all 'diverse'. The thing I've learned from all Skrillex albums following his [literal] genre-defining debut is..... remember who you are.
I only liked very few tracks from Skrillex (All is Fair in Brostep, Ruffneck.. etc), but not gonna lie his techniques are great and he knows a lot about music. But I don't think he is that revolutionary, I wish other musicians got the fame instead
I wish music producers would stop calling these techniques tricks. A trick is something designed to deceive. You are describing a music production technique and not a trick.
Personally I don't get the Skrillex hype.. I think underground artists have by far surpassed this guy and I don't see any pleasure in his music. If people hype on him he can as well endure some criticism like mine.
@@JornL Not much into Dubstep but when it comes to Dubstep-related genres people like Mr. Bill, Culprate, Clockvice, Kuuro, COPYCATT, Mefjus, kLL Bill and many other more unknown people.
@@nano7586 those people are insane but not mainstream. You have to remember that Skrillex went viral, *worldwide*, multiple times. As much as i would love to see KOAN Sound get the same fame Skrillex got, you cannot compare the hype of an artist based on how many plays he gets. Both Culprate and Skrillex are incredible artists with a massive knowledge of music theory, they only have different audiences
@@Dubstone Artists being mainstream is a not a criterium for me to like music so I don't understand your comment. "Mainstream" actually repels me because it is 90% of the time low quality.
@@nano7586 Skrillex is a mainstream artist, KOAN Sound are not. You hear Skrillex on the radio, not Culprate. Skrillex headlined Ultra multiple times, Sorrow did not. That's what mainstream means, to appeal to the general audience that doesn't have the willpower, open mindedness or energy to become cratediggers and explore the most undeground artists in existence. 90% of "mainstream" music does suck, but simply because it caters to the majority
@@chiefblanko The Q&A thing, as mentioned in the video, is not creative for instance - it's there since the 90's. Most of the sound design is also from 90's. So it's just not enough to call it innovative. We have such a large tool box for electronic music, so we can go new ways all the time, but Skrillex don't risk anything.
Hey guys, thanks for letting me know! Yeah I saw Alan Walker using one of my packs and it's insane 😳 what a banger type of news what the hell
You deserve it!
About the "weird arragements" skrillex is doing music with a musician mindset, and not like a DJ thinking in 4/8/16 bars to mix a breakdown into a buildup in a dj set
Glad some picked this up so many loopable sections in this album
yes, great point, I agree with this!
id imagine that was Nik or thys's doing lol
? no xd
is thought as a musician and as a dj and is using 4/4 as all ...
The secret is dynamics, everything you said gives the music more dynamics and make it less robotic
2. Most producers overcompensate with layers and parts because the initial musical idea just isn't good
This is 100% true
I don't like this comment because that's me
facts
thats not true. Can be. But idk about in general.
@@ohno6325 No it's true.. we often try and "do too much" as i like to say to fix a track that isn't that great, recently I've gotten better at noticing when I'm forcing a track and I just instantly delete it and move tf on
I think the key in simple/minimalistic tracks is defining a really strong main element and making it either evolve over time, or "fill the mix" (imo every element should have a purpose and not just be thrown as filler) with really subtle elements that complement the sonic picture of the chosen main element
Most of time I struggle to find production videos entertaning but you manage to do it. You’re channel is great
I appreciate that!
I also think part of the 5 parts to 3 parts trick in "Supersonic" has to do with subverting your listeners' expectations. It really makes that 2nd drop hit harder when it feels earlier. He does this a couple more times in the album like on "Inhale Exhale"
2 steps for good music:
1. keep it simple
2. MAKE IT DYNAMIC AF
this is what space laces, skrillex, noisia and many more do for their iconic beats
I feel like you’re always in a new house. Like do you burn every house down with your music and then have to move to a new one?
I burn everything down and when I leave there's a big explosion in the background and a slow motion while I walk 🤣
Haha I’d love to see that on video
Make sure you sample that explosion though
Especially the part about mono vocals is interesting imo. It somehow evokes the feeling of a limited production from the beginnings of electronic music, assuming you only have a handful of tracks to use. The priority is not the voice but the basses and sounds around it, so it gets less attention by only having a mono instead of a stereo channel dedicated for it. Reminds me of the old school dubstep or UK Garage stuff, Burial for example.
As if you used a file sharing app to download a crappy mono rip of a CD of which you sampled the vocals. But without the crappy compression. tl;dr: nostalgia
At the moment, I've actually started making all my music in mono (using a stereo imager and reducing the width). I'll change back to stereo every now and then to see how it's shaping up, but it helps me to focus on tone and song structure, instead of the exact placement of sounds.
The mono mixing of vocals also helps with radio play. While stereo vox sounds amazing in headphones, radio stations/car stereos/ phone speakers can end up cutting out that end, and just give you mono instead.
While most producers just want their music loud, it's better to focus on dynamics, because that's more interesting to the ear. I don't doubt that Skrillex carefully produces with dynamics, but not too much that the mix is ruined.
Great vid, man, keep it up :)
Always great content! I startet watching your stuff the das you showed the automelody Creation with Ableton only Plugins. Really great stuff!
my friend only has one ear and i think thats why he liked skrillex's mono vocals
That thumbnail is straight fire ngl, you've outdone yourself bro 😂
it's not so much what elements you pick, but how they harmonise and how it fits together. Context is the be all end all really. If you only have a handful of sounds but they all slap and fit together perfectly you can do a lot with that.
Your channel is fantastic! Your videos are so well put together and I always learn something new. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! 🙏🏻🤓
When I see Oversampled upload, I know its going to be a good day
LOVE this breakdown man! Really awesome observations. That 99% mono vocals one blew my mind
This breakdown was straight up useful. Man, thank you 😊
simplicity makes it accessible to more people, but not necessarily better in my opinion
His simplistic tracks are great because, and I know you don’t wanna hear this, 99% of the time when an edm producer makes it complicated they are sitting at their computers for hours and since they’re listening to the song their making for hours it’s browning and there needs to be more stuff. More stuff gets added and for a person that listened for 3 mins it’s just way too much, too many changes, too many things, and the song gets ruined
Yeah thats a problem for sure. Thats why its good not to overlisten and make sure you work quickly. If you listen too much it seems stale and you end up adding more stuff.
2:55 Explanation? Because Noisia. That's why 🐐
Such detailed analysis. Wow 😮
First rule is broken all the time in berlin. We are out dancing all night. We invite small breaks or rests in songs… 😂😂
😂 😂
Yeah I love a good long breakdown and buildup...maybe I'm old?
Already bought the pack several days before this video:P
The first point is used since forever in goa/trance (not psytrance, maybe but thats not what I want to point out)
I have heard this background beat somewhere 1:40, ooh yes from Arako Channel, Awesome tricks though.
No 2 : When your track have vocals of course you don't want many other things to clash with the vocals.
Good ish! 🤘🏼 (as always)
F for my dumb ass that purchased Volcano right away when it dropped without knowing of the 'Rumble' code discount 😭
Btw dope video as always, and the Volcano pack is pure FIRE, keep killin it
Also I think it’s good to make minimalistic stuff as well as complex. Complex stuff is important to distinguish your music from typical sounds and happy accidents arise from complexity, it’s like a science experiment. But yeah sometimes you have to know when to scrap an experiment that’s doomed
Thank you for another great video!
sofia vargara explaining rumble bass - " the thing that goes Takakakakakaka"
My favorite music production channel
thanks I was waiting for this
You can take the seperation between Vocals and Instrumental a bit further by using a plugin like soothe with sidechaining only the sides of the vocals. So the instrumental ducks down the stereo signal of the vocals in a dynamic way but you still got some stereo signal left which differs from the instrumental.
Excellent Vid! 😊
Great stuff mate!
Thumbnail is a FIRE !!!!!
so it makes sense to use the Utility or the "Tool" in my case to turn the gain up in Bitwig after the compressor or limiter if I want it loud without destroying the dynamics?
Yeah, that's what's called a makeup gain. You first compress the tops and by that make the sound quieter and then boost the gain to bring the volume back, but now it's perceived louder. Some compressors have makeup gains or gain match, like Ozone on the video, although they're not fully accurate
@@Oversampled good to know thanks
bro this is straight comedy for me, love your way of explaining things
You have been helpful and continue to be helpful on my path and development of becoming a good producer and i thank u man
9:30 next time pls give a disclaimer before* this
I'm not* epileptic but it made my whole brain feel pain
It literally made my head cloudy
I was writing bullshit XD
Sorry! Thought this was too short to give any epileptic effects 🙏
@@Oversampled I hope so
Nice video anyway
2:01 damn. Called out and devastated lol
Yo desde hace tiempo uso el truco de mantener la dinámica, así hago que el drop suene con más fuerza, eso lo aprendí escuchando un track de Kaizo y otro de Arcthurians, los demás tíos si no los aplicaba pero es muy bueno saber todo esto de parte del gran Skrillex y que tu nos traigas está conclusión sobre sus álbumes, en serio eres un genio 💛💛💛
"...if you don't release them" REPRAZENT! Great dissection. Thanks!
1:27 what is that insane track please?
Btw great video ✨
these albums are heavily uk bass music inspired so if anyone wants more inspiration listen to more of that
yo ALAN WALKER USED YOUR KIT IN HIS LATEST VLOG, BIG W
Great job 👍
YOO BROO I JUST SAW ALAN WALKER USE UR SAMPLES THAT'S SUCH A PROUD MOMENT IT'S IN THE VIDEO WHERE HE MAKES TRACK IN 100HRS OMG CAN'T BELIEVE EVEN HE LOVES UR SAMPLES WOAH WOAH WOAH CONGRATS🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
Dope knowledge
You should’ve put the vsauce keyboard after you said “or do you?”
天哪，太强了，太强了，还得好好学习才行
I think I'm in love with this guy
8:07 "The whole track was downmixed to mono"
Or .. he used a mono reverb on a mono track.
Thank you! Where can I get your Ableton fs 'ultimate spacing'?
Hi! It's in this pack: oversampled.us/products/mixingsauce
Try making eurobeat genre
Good job
💯
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one thing that is very interesting is how low-mid heavy the mixes are. comparing it with his older stuff or dance music in general, Most mixes cut alot of 300-800 hz and are very present in the highs. his approach is quiet the opposite, focusing mostly on the low-mid harmonics and not being overly screechy. Which also gives more room for the few elements that do sit in the high end. Absolute genius
Absolute genius???? Lol
@@derekjay.s good reading derek
@@7ars471 lame
@@derekjay.s convince me otherwise
@@7ars471 its not like its the first time this has ever been done in history. And plus there are two other producers on the album…..not all the tracks were his ideas
the best
Damnnn:( I bought that pack the second I got the launch email and didn’t see the Rumble discount 🥺
good research jajajhajaj, good luck
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Alan Walker uses your sample pack in his most recent video 😳
Alan walker was using your sounds in his song i saw it on his new video
Trick 1, do your hair like dis.
Trick 2, wear dis glasses.
Trick 3, get your eyebrows did like dis.
awesome video and track on 1: 12 haha show us the nameee
Releasing soon as Aiden Williams 😁
@@Oversampled WHAT A SNEAKY SELF-PROMOTE, I love that. Also sounds a lot like Sweat by Protokseed & Creeds.
You made me like Skrillex 😅
"or do you" 😂
i do 6 or 9 bar builds all the time lol
ow, flash warning for 9:30 please
Sori
Imajin not understanding soundsaging.
I don't understand the first trick. So it means keep vibes with only small changes in whole song? But the 2examples you show (breakdown after drop) seems quiet dramatic change to me. And 1song contains the changes like the 2 examples. So what's the point?? can someone help?
you are thinking wayyyy to hard on it. just make it feel good and make your lane. there's only 1 of 1 Kylim Music
@@prodbydramatic yeah thanks bro. i was overthinking man. i know that there's no rule but i wanted to understand Oversampled's intention in first trick. Anyway, thanks bro
whats the last song?
That's Skrillex - Good Space
@@Oversampled i thought someone else might answer but the legend itself spoke!
So in part 1-are those tempo changes or…?
No, just energy changes based on feeling. Energetic vs less energetic vs chill vs intensifying etc
0:55 background music anyone meet?
what song is this at 1:14?
soundcloud.com/aidenwilliams/faceit
Will you release THUNDERBOLT?
Yes :)
Point 7 makes me question something. Why is music on 2s? It's like animation, also on 2s. What?
what camera do you have? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease
Sony a7s3 😁
@@Oversampled SANQ!!!!!!
Everyone’s favourite number is 7 indeed
Randomly potch up and down you song from time to time when making it, it removes the feeling of the song being boring
I am guilty of adding too much unnecessary detail 😅
Wtf I thought skrillex only made the wziuuu wwzwzwz wmwmwm buuuum sounds XDDDD
He did. Now he's all 'diverse'.
The thing I've learned from all Skrillex albums following his [literal] genre-defining debut is..... remember who you are.
sample pk purchased nice
bruhhhhh now you reveal the promo code 😭
The background hip hop track is used wayyyy to much for UA-camrs these days.
I have a picture of you up on my wall, and i kiss you every so often, but i know this can never work because i use fl studio, im sorry
Thumbnai bro
first yooo
nope
I only liked very few tracks from Skrillex (All is Fair in Brostep, Ruffneck.. etc), but not gonna lie his techniques are great and he knows a lot about music. But I don't think he is that revolutionary, I wish other musicians got the fame instead
Production Channels trying not to make a cringe video about skrillex because a lot of people are talking about him at the moment (impossible)
hey, it's hard out here and you gotta pay the bills yknow
I wish music producers would stop calling these techniques tricks. A trick is something designed to deceive. You are describing a music production technique and not a trick.
Personally I don't get the Skrillex hype.. I think underground artists have by far surpassed this guy and I don't see any pleasure in his music. If people hype on him he can as well endure some criticism like mine.
Could you name the underground artists you're referring to? Just curious
@@JornL Not much into Dubstep but when it comes to Dubstep-related genres people like Mr. Bill, Culprate, Clockvice, Kuuro, COPYCATT, Mefjus, kLL Bill and many other more unknown people.
@@nano7586 those people are insane but not mainstream. You have to remember that Skrillex went viral, *worldwide*, multiple times.
As much as i would love to see KOAN Sound get the same fame Skrillex got, you cannot compare the hype of an artist based on how many plays he gets. Both Culprate and Skrillex are incredible artists with a massive knowledge of music theory, they only have different audiences
@@Dubstone Artists being mainstream is a not a criterium for me to like music so I don't understand your comment. "Mainstream" actually repels me because it is 90% of the time low quality.
@@nano7586 Skrillex is a mainstream artist, KOAN Sound are not.
You hear Skrillex on the radio, not Culprate.
Skrillex headlined Ultra multiple times, Sorrow did not.
That's what mainstream means, to appeal to the general audience that doesn't have the willpower, open mindedness or energy to become cratediggers and explore the most undeground artists in existence. 90% of "mainstream" music does suck, but simply because it caters to the majority
"learn't"
thanks oversampled i’m going to kiss you on the mouth
Thanks for showing those dancehall optimizations in detail. Skrillex is totally outdated, but I still learned something.
Outdated? Dude just dropped one of the best edm albums of the year!
@@K-Deez I heard similar music in the 1990's in Europe. To me it's a retro thing.
@@chiefblanko To be precise, his composing techniques are not very innovative. People should know that it's retro, that's all I want.
@@chiefblanko The Q&A thing, as mentioned in the video, is not creative for instance - it's there since the 90's. Most of the sound design is also from 90's. So it's just not enough to call it innovative. We have such a large tool box for electronic music, so we can go new ways all the time, but Skrillex don't risk anything.
@@towerrunner4675 its very similar to 2000s Uk dubstep