For women seeking an ultralight backpack here are a few tips. The cottage companies are making backpacks suitable for men thus a reason for discomfort. Minimized or no hip belt and thin padded shoulder straps. I hiked WA State PCT with an anatomy professor and we mused a bunch designing backpacks for women. Apparently we have something more pronounced called a supra scapular notch or more of a dip in the shoulders . These thin straps dig right in. I can attest to this. So wider padded shoulder straps. Most women are built to carry on our hips so I agree with a wide padded hip belt. There are some companies that make packs for women; the six moons has a really nice design even a vest style shoulder option, but they are heavier and there's the Osprey lumina but it was an odd fit for me and noisy. The best I found is the Gossamer Gear g4 20 still ultralight. When I switched from a wonderfully made AF pack it was all the difference in the carry. The thing I missed is the bottom pocket for access to the days food but adjusted. The GG G4 20 pack is about 40 liter, so if not carrying the weight and bulk camera equipment it works. They have a smaller pack and several larger options. In Europe I think the Atom pack (uk) may come close, too or have options better for women. I think the cottage industry for backpacks is missing out on a lucrative niche... :)
Instead of a pack cover, I always carry one of those cheap disposable poncho's you can get at any tourist attraction. The cheaper they are the lighter they are! They weigh less than any pack cover I've seen, they keep your pack dryer and they actually keep you dryer than the best rain jacket. The downside is they only last two or three full days of wear before they start ripping apart, so if through hiking you probably need one per supply box. Then realistically, use a good pack liner and trust your system to keep the important stuff dry.
I am so dang happy eith my Ksprey pack. I went to REI and I had a Gregory in mind not an Osprey. But the sales rep talked to me about my hiking, etc and said you need an Osprey lets fit you. He put 20 lbs in it and my total weight was 22 lbs because thats all the Osprey weighed and zi could not blv it!!!!! The difference in packs amazing. Lifetime warranty if you buy Osprey.
I've decided to go with the ULA Catalyst for my 2023 nobo thru. I have researched and thought for so long about this. Everybody says the ULA packs carry weight well and are comfortable. What really sold me on the Catalyst was an obscure very few reviews that people described having nerve issues in their shoulders in daily life and the pack doesn't irritate that issue like other packs from other companies. And everyone says they are essentially bomb proof. The 3 pounds doesn't bother me in the slightest. Now I order it and pack in the gear I have so far like shelter and sleep system. I've started on my kitchen set up and clothing is next.
A fellow nobo 2023 here: I got the Durston Gear Kakwa 40. I’ve been loading it up with gear and walking around the house for the past couple days. It carries better than my previous pack (REI Flash 55) but I haven’t used it on trail yet because I haven’t found time to get out.
Good luck on your hike. 👍🏕. I can feel your excitement through the words you write.☺️. Getting ready for a big hike is a big part of the fun, I think. So have a great time in 2023. 👍
Good thought provoking gear video again Miss Dixie. We are all different, shapes and sizes, styles and strengths. In my mind, this video brings up a very important point, and that is, to evaluate your needs well in advance then research. Ask alot of questions. Hopefully that will get you a general idea of what you want/need. Don't balk at a pack as being too expensive and settle for less. If it's what you want/need, save up for it. Another thing this video makes us aware of is, knowledge gained through experience is worth about 10 liters less of pack volume and 2 lbs. less of pack weight. Just my opinion. Best wishes to all! Fall is right around the corner, so let's get out there and enjoy it!
Be Aware Pack volume Major companies measure by internal volume not including external pockets, which means a 50 liter pack yes has 50 liter of internal volume then after that external pockets Cottage companies measure including external pockets, which means a 50 liter pack may only have 35 liter internal and 15 external This can be an unpleasant surprise
Can't wait to hit the trail next spring 🙌 Doing a wierd flip flop (sobo but saving the 100 mile wilderness and katahdin for the end) Packing out my hmg windrider 2400 that I've trimmed down to the absolute basic lol even removed the hip belt since since switching to a dcf tarp shelter (5 ounces!!) 👍👍 thank you so much for the videos they help tremendously
I’m wondering about all the rain on the AT and whether a pack cover is a good idea even for a pack with waterproof fabric like Ultra or Dyneema, and even if you have an inner waterproof liner. After all, in a downpour the pack still gets wet and all that wetness will be in your tent at night.
Dixie, I love ya, but you strike me as somewhat of a "glamper". I got all my shit for my hike at Walmart and Army surplus, with zero issues. I've watched your "budget" videos as well, and that has some good information, but you still want me to go to REI, which has good stuff, but you can find comparable items for far less. No hate, much love, just my personal irks.
walmart is sometimes nice generally bad army surplus is ultra cheap, mostly outdated, sometimes useful, usually way too heavy If you want to go budget maybe check out even more options like decathlon, aliexpress, used gear from ebay...
@@JAaronMattox was about to write the same thing 😂 nothing says glamour like cold soaking ramen and not showering for a week at a time for months on end lol
In my defense, I did say somewhat. I didn't know any other word to use, that's why it's in quotes. So, I'll clarify myself. Dixie is coming off as a chick where only the most expensive, high tech equipment will do. Why buy a titanium collapsible cup for $200 when an old canteen cup will do the same thing? (Hyperbole, I know)
@@bakerboy8910 because when you are someone like dixie that hikes a ton like really tons and tons of hikes then the additional performance of a 50$ titanium cup is so much worth it over all the time you use it compared to the 10$ steel one Like a barber might have more expensive but higer quality scissors Or idk a sushi chef a nicer knife than standart
I'll say I went from an Osprey Atmos to a lightweight (ish) pack and then back to a more traditional pack (Baltoro). I actually like the organization of all the pockets and the ability to flay open the bag with a zipper. My lightweight bag started at 2lbs, but after organizing everything with bags, and adding accessories in the hip and shoulder belt I ended up at nearly 3lbs of pack weight. After trimming all the straps and cutting off some unnecessary pockets my Baltoro is down to 3.25lbs. Barely a difference, and it carries weight much better than a lightweight pack, and is much more durable.
I know they make much lighter packs these days but I love my Dana Design ArcFlex 5000 cubic inch (82 liters) Alpine Backpack I purchased it about 25 years ago. Large by today's standards. Super comfortable, it has a semi-custom fit. It is also super functional as it has 2 zippers that allow you to open the pack up and easily get at anything regardless of where it is located. There is also what is called a "beaver tail shovel flap". A great place for wet gear. There are lots of other features, too many to list here. It retailed for about $450.00. I was working for Easter Mountain Sports at the time. I got a 48% discount, so I paid a bit over $200.00.
Another way to decide/measure how big of a pack you need is to get a box at home, fill it tightly with everything then measure the cubic inches=across + depth + plus height =cubic inches. Then divide that by 61 and that will be your liters size. Example 4000 cubic inches divided by 61 = 65 liters. 65 seems to big for average trip, mine for a week in the mountains to sustain my 'cold' body was around 40 liters. With this method you can add food and water etc. to get a good idea of your average load. Then take your stuff to the store and see if it all fits comfortably. My opinion is comfort of the body is the most critical issue, not the lightest.
Good question, what are the most important pieces of gear, in order? Aren't shoes the most important piece of gear? What defines, "most-important?" Perhaps, gear that causes one to leave the trail? Many pieces of gear, upon failure, can cause one to leave the trail? Perhaps, "most-important" should also be indispensable across most-all hiking conditions? Should difficulty of trail-repair be included? 1) Shoes, 2) Shelter, 3) Rain-gear, 4) Pack?
Gentlemen with a smaller torso length To get an excellent fit, I buy women’s sizes, either small or extra small This means I get a perfect fit Please note women’s packs are smaller in volume, so an advertised 60 liter pack may be only 55 liter
One way is to change the bag they give you to a waterproof stuff sack, which can also be nice when the provided bag is like trying to stuff 5 pounds of potatoes into a 3-pound bag. The other way is to make sure when you're folding, rolling, or wadding up your tent that the rain fly is completely surrounding everything else. About 90% of tents arrive when new with the fly rolled or folded up on the inside, so the opposite of what you want. Also, an option is the VERY expensive Dyneema tents that are completely waterproof material and don't absorb any water either.
Why are REI's so conveniently far away... lol. I tried to buy a Teton pack, their biggest one with adjustability. Their "XL" was far too short and I learned at that point why my shirts always needed to be longer and my pants were always too long. I'm 5'9" and my torso is extraordinarily disproportionate in length compared to my legs (also why I'm not just a really good runner). I ended up having to go get a custom pack for a long torso.
I’ve been backing and technical climbing for many years in all seasons and I still pay attention to Dixie’s advice based upon her field experience. She’s excellent.
My first pack was an Osprey Atmos (65L). It carried very well but is very heavy. I just got a ULA Catalyst in the Ultra 24 material and it carried 35lbs so comfortably I was amazed. It weighs half as much as the Atmos. My back did get sweatier than the Osprey, but I’ll take that over the extra 2lbs.
About weight. You really have to take into consideration the total weight that you're carrying..including your body weight. If you heavy, after a really long hike you'll be a lot lighter. So cutting ounces is probably not necessary. Let's say you through 5 lbs extra in your pack and over the next week you loose 5. That's a net zero. Plus you'll be stronger. So look at the pounds and not the ounces. Start considering comfort stuff wisely. Take a chair. Extra socks or underwear. It won't make a difference. You'll compensate. If there are things you just don't use then give them away. But if you're thinking they're just too heavy you're probably wrong.
Hey Dixie are you ever going to revisit the AT for a "revisited" or "throwback" episode? I'd be interested in a "where it all started" series. 🤔 I'd also love to see you revist your most memorable or favorite areas of the AT
That's why she mentioned putting up the tent first. Then you can take your pack into the vestibule, do some drying off and unpack it a little at a time.
@@rumblechick73 I know, but she uses it to extend the sleeping pad and I know from xperience it would not be very dry even after sitting there for hours. Then she puts a sleeping bag on top.. or does she?
Hi Dixie as always enjoy your content. I have a long standing question that I yet have to find a clarification on. In regards to base weight and the example of fuel. Does the gross or net weight of fuel count toward non-base weight? In other words in determining base weight do you subtract the gross weight of a fuel cannister or do you leave the weight of the actual cannister less net weight of gas in your base weight calc? Same for food packaging, tooth paste container, sunscreen container, mosquito repellant spray bottle, etc.? Is weight of consumables containers excluded from base weight?
Good question! If you wanted to get down to the nitty gritty then, yes, you should include those constant weights. Do you know what they are, though? Most people don’t which is why they aren’t included
@@HomemadeWanderlust apologies for the late reply but thank you for answering. I do know some of those container weights like the gas canisters but haven't bothered with lighter items mostly because I didn't think base weight included these. In reality I weight my pack after it's loaded without food/gas/water so I have an idea where my base weight is at and how much suffering lies ahead. LOL
The most important piece of gear is a positive mental attitude.
Couldn’t have said it better!!
For women seeking an ultralight backpack here are a few tips. The cottage companies are making backpacks suitable for men thus a reason for discomfort. Minimized or no hip belt and thin padded shoulder straps. I hiked WA State PCT with an anatomy professor and we mused a bunch designing backpacks for women. Apparently we have something more pronounced called a supra scapular notch or more of a dip in the shoulders . These thin straps dig right in. I can attest to this. So wider padded shoulder straps. Most women are built to carry on our hips so I agree with a wide padded hip belt. There are some companies that make packs for women; the six moons has a really nice design even a vest style shoulder option, but they are heavier and there's the Osprey lumina but it was an odd fit for me and noisy. The best I found is the Gossamer Gear g4 20 still ultralight. When I switched from a wonderfully made AF pack it was all the difference in the carry. The thing I missed is the bottom pocket for access to the days food but adjusted. The GG G4 20 pack is about 40 liter, so if not carrying the weight and bulk camera equipment it works. They have a smaller pack and several larger options. In Europe I think the Atom pack (uk) may come close, too or have options better for women. I think the cottage industry for backpacks is missing out on a lucrative niche... :)
Instead of a pack cover, I always carry one of those cheap disposable poncho's you can get at any tourist attraction. The cheaper they are the lighter they are! They weigh less than any pack cover I've seen, they keep your pack dryer and they actually keep you dryer than the best rain jacket. The downside is they only last two or three full days of wear before they start ripping apart, so if through hiking you probably need one per supply box. Then realistically, use a good pack liner and trust your system to keep the important stuff dry.
I am so dang happy eith my Ksprey pack. I went to REI and I had a Gregory in mind not an Osprey. But the sales rep talked to me about my hiking, etc and said you need an Osprey lets fit you. He put 20 lbs in it and my total weight was 22 lbs because thats all the Osprey weighed and zi could not blv it!!!!! The difference in packs amazing. Lifetime warranty if you buy Osprey.
I just got an osprey pack , good to hear everyone likes them. I did a lot of research
You sure are pumping out the content lately. You've been busy.
Would love a video detailing Rebel Yell's 100L loadout.
I've decided to go with the ULA Catalyst for my 2023 nobo thru. I have researched and thought for so long about this. Everybody says the ULA packs carry weight well and are comfortable. What really sold me on the Catalyst was an obscure very few reviews that people described having nerve issues in their shoulders in daily life and the pack doesn't irritate that issue like other packs from other companies. And everyone says they are essentially bomb proof. The 3 pounds doesn't bother me in the slightest. Now I order it and pack in the gear I have so far like shelter and sleep system. I've started on my kitchen set up and clothing is next.
A fellow nobo 2023 here: I got the Durston Gear Kakwa 40. I’ve been loading it up with gear and walking around the house for the past couple days. It carries better than my previous pack (REI Flash 55) but I haven’t used it on trail yet because I haven’t found time to get out.
Good luck on your hike. 👍🏕. I can feel your excitement through the words you write.☺️. Getting ready for a big hike is a big part of the fun, I think. So have a great time in 2023. 👍
Good thought provoking gear video again Miss Dixie.
We are all different, shapes and sizes, styles and strengths. In my mind, this video brings up a very important point, and that is, to evaluate your needs well in advance then research. Ask alot of questions. Hopefully that will get you a general idea of what you want/need. Don't balk at a pack as being too expensive and settle for less. If it's what you want/need, save up for it.
Another thing this video makes us aware of is, knowledge gained through experience is worth about 10 liters less of pack volume and 2 lbs. less of pack weight. Just my opinion.
Best wishes to all! Fall is right around the corner, so let's get out there and enjoy it!
Be Aware
Pack volume
Major companies measure by internal volume not including external pockets, which means a 50 liter pack yes has 50 liter of internal volume then after that external pockets
Cottage companies measure including external pockets, which means a 50 liter pack may only have 35 liter internal and 15 external
This can be an unpleasant surprise
Bruuuh 5 videos in one day!!
She's an animal!!!
Can't wait to hit the trail next spring 🙌
Doing a wierd flip flop (sobo but saving the 100 mile wilderness and katahdin for the end)
Packing out my hmg windrider 2400 that I've trimmed down to the absolute basic lol even removed the hip belt since since switching to a dcf tarp shelter (5 ounces!!) 👍👍 thank you so much for the videos they help tremendously
This was an excellent video! Thanks for all the great tips. I love your insightful videos. God bless you and your mom. Praying for you both. John
Great pro advice. I will start putting my shelter on the outside.
You are a busy girl producing all these videos in 1 day. You realy need time to enjoy a drink.
Please tell us about the camera equipment you carry/use.
I’m wondering about all the rain on the AT and whether a pack cover is a good idea even for a pack with waterproof fabric like Ultra or Dyneema, and even if you have an inner waterproof liner. After all, in a downpour the pack still gets wet and all that wetness will be in your tent at night.
Dixie, I love ya, but you strike me as somewhat of a "glamper". I got all my shit for my hike at Walmart and Army surplus, with zero issues. I've watched your "budget" videos as well, and that has some good information, but you still want me to go to REI, which has good stuff, but you can find comparable items for far less. No hate, much love, just my personal irks.
“Glamping” doesn’t = “Spending More Money on Gear.” No one thru-hiking the Appalachian Trail is a “glamper”
walmart is sometimes nice generally bad
army surplus is ultra cheap, mostly outdated, sometimes useful, usually way too heavy
If you want to go budget maybe check out even more options like decathlon, aliexpress, used gear from ebay...
@@JAaronMattox was about to write the same thing 😂 nothing says glamour like cold soaking ramen and not showering for a week at a time for months on end lol
In my defense, I did say somewhat. I didn't know any other word to use, that's why it's in quotes. So, I'll clarify myself. Dixie is coming off as a chick where only the most expensive, high tech equipment will do. Why buy a titanium collapsible cup for $200 when an old canteen cup will do the same thing? (Hyperbole, I know)
@@bakerboy8910 because when you are someone like dixie that hikes a ton like really tons and tons of hikes then the additional performance of a 50$ titanium cup is so much worth it over all the time you use it compared to the 10$ steel one
Like a barber might have more expensive but higer quality scissors
Or idk a sushi chef a nicer knife than standart
My Osprey Exos 48 feels like I'm wearing an airconditioned backpack. 😁
I’ve been sub’d for a while. You’re really good at this and it’s a treat to watch. I appreciate all the effort and info 🤘🏼🍻❤️
I'll say I went from an Osprey Atmos to a lightweight (ish) pack and then back to a more traditional pack (Baltoro). I actually like the organization of all the pockets and the ability to flay open the bag with a zipper. My lightweight bag started at 2lbs, but after organizing everything with bags, and adding accessories in the hip and shoulder belt I ended up at nearly 3lbs of pack weight. After trimming all the straps and cutting off some unnecessary pockets my Baltoro is down to 3.25lbs. Barely a difference, and it carries weight much better than a lightweight pack, and is much more durable.
Crushing it with these videos. Excellent intro.
You are so very good!!!!!
I know they make much lighter packs these days but I love my Dana Design ArcFlex 5000 cubic inch (82 liters) Alpine Backpack I purchased it about 25 years ago. Large by today's standards. Super comfortable, it has a semi-custom fit. It is also super functional as it has 2 zippers that allow you to open the pack up and easily get at anything regardless of where it is located. There is also what is called a "beaver tail shovel flap". A great place for wet gear. There are lots of other features, too many to list here. It retailed for about $450.00. I was working for Easter Mountain Sports at the time. I got a 48% discount, so I paid a bit over $200.00.
A tsunami of videos.
I can’t keep up.
I got a REI flash 55 from the returns. It fits perfect and weights less than 3 pounds for only like $100!
I still use my old Alice pack ....
Another way to decide/measure how big of a pack you need is to get a box at home, fill it tightly with everything then measure the cubic inches=across + depth + plus height =cubic inches. Then divide that by 61 and that will be your liters size. Example 4000 cubic inches divided by 61 = 65 liters. 65 seems to big for average trip, mine for a week in the mountains to sustain my 'cold' body was around 40 liters. With this method you can add food and water etc. to get a good idea of your average load. Then take your stuff to the store and see if it all fits comfortably. My opinion is comfort of the body is the most critical issue, not the lightest.
Good question, what are the most important pieces of gear, in order? Aren't shoes the most important piece of gear? What defines, "most-important?" Perhaps, gear that causes one to leave the trail? Many pieces of gear, upon failure, can cause one to leave the trail? Perhaps, "most-important" should also be indispensable across most-all hiking conditions? Should difficulty of trail-repair be included? 1) Shoes, 2) Shelter, 3) Rain-gear, 4) Pack?
The only pack that you should consider is the FlexTrek Whipesnake 37 Trillion. Just sayin...
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great video Dixie! what do you do when you have so little experience that ALL of the weighted packs seem uncomfortable??🤣🤣seriously, though....
Omgggggg soooo amazinggg
Definitely some good advice here.
Grandma Gatewood must be smiling.
Love my Waymark EVLV
Great way to pack the pack honed from years of experience and miles and miles on trail. Thanks, Dixie.🙏👍
Gentlemen with a smaller torso length
To get an excellent fit, I buy women’s sizes, either small or extra small
This means I get a perfect fit
Please note women’s packs are smaller in volume, so an advertised 60 liter pack may be only 55 liter
I got my cover, which is orange, for the hunting season. I agree it does not keep one's pack dry.
Was going to say shoes but pack is also a good one
These videos are so informational! Such a good resource!
♥️
You do good work Dixie,hi to mama👌👍🙂
Since your tent is on the outside of the pack, how do you keep it dry in deluges?
One way is to change the bag they give you to a waterproof stuff sack, which can also be nice when the provided bag is like trying to stuff 5 pounds of potatoes into a 3-pound bag. The other way is to make sure when you're folding, rolling, or wadding up your tent that the rain fly is completely surrounding everything else. About 90% of tents arrive when new with the fly rolled or folded up on the inside, so the opposite of what you want. Also, an option is the VERY expensive Dyneema tents that are completely waterproof material and don't absorb any water either.
I was rewatching the movie Three Days of the Condor and thought of you because of Faye Dunaway’s look and hair style. 👌👍🤙💕🕊🕊🕊
Can I just take you with me? My husband’s favorite saying when I’m trying to figure out what to take is What would Dixie do?
Trash bags liners work perfectly
Another very thorough and high-quality video. Thank you for the information Dixie.
Why are REI's so conveniently far away... lol. I tried to buy a Teton pack, their biggest one with adjustability. Their "XL" was far too short and I learned at that point why my shirts always needed to be longer and my pants were always too long. I'm 5'9" and my torso is extraordinarily disproportionate in length compared to my legs (also why I'm not just a really good runner). I ended up having to go get a custom pack for a long torso.
I’ve been backing and technical climbing for many years in all seasons and I still pay attention to Dixie’s advice based upon her field experience. She’s excellent.
My first pack was an Osprey Atmos (65L). It carried very well but is very heavy. I just got a ULA Catalyst in the Ultra 24 material and it carried 35lbs so comfortably I was amazed. It weighs half as much as the Atmos. My back did get sweatier than the Osprey, but I’ll take that over the extra 2lbs.
I LOL'd at 0:05 when your pack fell over. I dunno why, I just found it really funny.
About weight. You really have to take into consideration the total weight that you're carrying..including your body weight. If you heavy, after a really long hike you'll be a lot lighter. So cutting ounces is probably not necessary. Let's say you through 5 lbs extra in your pack and over the next week you loose 5. That's a net zero. Plus you'll be stronger. So look at the pounds and not the ounces. Start considering comfort stuff wisely. Take a chair. Extra socks or underwear. It won't make a difference. You'll compensate. If there are things you just don't use then give them away. But if you're thinking they're just too heavy you're probably wrong.
The science of trail hiking, experience wins. Thanks
You have lost weight too.
Great video , don't forget we each have different physical ability, one person's heavy just might be extremely light to me.
Hey Dixie are you ever going to revisit the AT for a "revisited" or "throwback" episode? I'd be interested in a "where it all started" series. 🤔 I'd also love to see you revist your most memorable or favorite areas of the AT
You have great systems
Wish you were here .
Absolutely! If you’re pack is not cutting it, well, then you probably wouldn’t be cutting it.
I’m curious: you come to the camp in pouring rain. How do you prep the pack for its’ job at night when it’s soaking wet?
That's why she mentioned putting up the tent first. Then you can take your pack into the vestibule, do some drying off and unpack it a little at a time.
@@rumblechick73 I know, but she uses it to extend the sleeping pad and I know from xperience it would not be very dry even after sitting there for hours. Then she puts a sleeping bag on top.. or does she?
Thanks!
Thank you so much!
Hi Dixie as always enjoy your content. I have a long standing question that I yet have to find a clarification on. In regards to base weight and the example of fuel. Does the gross or net weight of fuel count toward non-base weight? In other words in determining base weight do you subtract the gross weight of a fuel cannister or do you leave the weight of the actual cannister less net weight of gas in your base weight calc? Same for food packaging, tooth paste container, sunscreen container, mosquito repellant spray bottle, etc.? Is weight of consumables containers excluded from base weight?
Good question! If you wanted to get down to the nitty gritty then, yes, you should include those constant weights. Do you know what they are, though? Most people don’t which is why they aren’t included
@@HomemadeWanderlust apologies for the late reply but thank you for answering. I do know some of those container weights like the gas canisters but haven't bothered with lighter items mostly because I didn't think base weight included these. In reality I weight my pack after it's loaded without food/gas/water so I have an idea where my base weight is at and how much suffering lies ahead. LOL
Wonder what you hikers are going to do when the shizzy hits the fizzy while your on a hike running out of supplies.
Be better prepared to do with less than 75% of the general public!
@@rumblechick73 hopefully fishing and hunting is in the cards. Be careful out there.