Hey there Johno, thank you very very much for this wonderful and awesome video explaining how to connect the Road Train. I admire how you revers with two trailers this distance of about 100 meters or more. You are a very good truckie, my congratulations. I'm sorry Johno, I'm still curious: if you had a third trailer, how you would hook up the second dolly and the third trailer? I guess you park the two trailer combination, disconnect the prime mover and you go to hook up the third trailer, then you will hook up the second dolly, and then you reverse to hook up the two connected trailer parked and you have the triple road train ready, is it more or less right? Of course you must still connect the air hoses and the electric plugs and lift the landing legs. I hope you understand what I mean, because I am not so good in English. Once again many thanks for this wonderful and very informative video. The video is perfect with five cameras and the drone. I admire how you have time to make your videos, because you must work, load and drive many hours a day. Thank you very much, you are simply the best 😃👌👍💪
@@RoadTrainAdventures ok, I understand. Thank you very much, I will always watch your videos, they are great 😃 in two months I will retire, and my plan is in about two or three years make a trip to Australia 🇦🇺 😁
All the camera angles were fantastic! I know how much time and effort it takes to set multiple cameras up for shots like that... and you did a great job! Great skills too mate! Truckies like yourself keep this country moving mate! Well done Johhno.
@@RoadTrainAdventures oh yes, it is very interesting and I learned a lot again about road trains. Too bad I don't live in Australia otherwise I would be a road train truckie 😁
@@RoadTrainAdventures Oh I would nothing like more than this. But I think it is difficult to get a working permission for foreigners. And then I must make the drivers license for road train, and I am already 61. I think it will stay a dream 🥴
I have watched many U.K. truck drivers struggle with a standard artic ( I am not a truck driver so can’t do it myself ) trying to reverse onto a loading bay. Scandinavian drivers also have great skills on narrow roads. Thank you for sharing
Thanks Rob. Yes I've seen some of the very narrow streets some truckie have to go down. With my truck there is no way of turning. You have to have a cabovet
You all have done an amazing job in showing us through, i feel like im driving it with all this set up of cameras and drone right above. Excellent, best so far.
It really is an art reversing dollys and doubles.. love how you make it look so easy.Johnno.. .. still , for mugs like me its just a matter of practice and time in the seat.. love your videos👍
A thousand thank yours for answering my question. Very well filmed and explained. I did not realise there were so many safety locks and failsafes or how they all worked. The segment on reversing was one anyone with a van or 5th wheeler should watch. Take as much time as you need and don’t expect to get there first time every time as you demonstrated so well. Safe travel and looking forward to your next video.
@@benpennington1866 When I referred to 5th wheel I must admit I was thinking of the leisure industry where it is more a generic term rather than the semi drivers. I would agree turntable is probably a better term for the professional side of the industry in particular.
I've always been fascinated by Australian trucking and how vastly different it is from trucking here in the US. Only in the western US states and a few toll roads (Indiana, Ohio and New York) do people ever see "road trains" but they're definately not the same as Australian road trains by any means. There are several variations of double configurations used in the US and the only triple configuration allowed is 3 "pup" or 26-28ft trailers coupled by a single axle dolly and secured by pintile connections making them nearly impossible to back up. I've seen 2 53ft trailers hooked together via pintile connection with a double axle dolly many times and that's not something I care to try. Hard enough with a single 53ft trailer!!! You definately showed immense skill backing like you did, amazing job!! And the camera angles were awesome. Great video.
I live in New Zealand and also lived in Australia and often go there to western Australia. I would say USA roads are still wat better in comparison wider and and more long stretches. But then I also wonder there's not road trains or double B as much in Australia. Is it because USA have too many trucks and transport companies.? That you don't need to have a road trains.
@@alliswell3372 You gotta remember that the US interstate system was initially developed and constructed to allow for mass movements of military troops and equipment efficiently. It was not really intended to be what it is today and Eisenhower would absolutely love to see what the system has become now. While the roads do leave a lot to be desired sometimes due to poor maintenance and decades of neglect, for the most part the US interstate system is unparalleled worldwide. The ability to be able to drive coast to coast and from north to south without many issues is absolutely astounding. A container from Asia can arrive at the Port of Long Beach or LA and within 5 days be on the opposite end of the country and vice versa. No other country has the vast network of high speed highways and certainly no country has roads spanning the entire country. Trucking in the US isn't the greatest, lots of mega carriers don't pay drivers livable wages and will leave them sit without pay for 3 or 4 days in the middle of nowhere. I'm fortunate enough to work at a good company that pays salary and not based on miles (cents per mile as we call it). So I'm a rare driver who's paid whether I'm driving or sitting, so it's in the best interest of the company to make sure I'm rolling as much as possible. And what sweetens the pot for me is I'm paid when I'm at home relaxing. I'd still like to experience Australia and how trucking is there just to see what the differences are.
@@alliswell3372 oh, and the reason road trains aren't a thing in the US has a lot to do with the amount of infrastructure that's available. It's super expensive to run a road train in the US, 3 to 4 times as expensive due to state required permits to haul more than 80,000lbs (that's the max legal weight of all 5 axle trucks in the US). Several states allow for much higher weight limits but obtaining those permits are VERY expensive so most US carriers find it easier to just roll with the standard 80,000lb IRP (Internationally Registered Plate to allow boarder crossing with Canada and Mexico as well as operating legally in all US states). Most of the western US states will allow trucks to haul between 100,000 to 150,000lbs gross weight but at a significantly higher cost and very strict axle requirements (usually a 5 or 6 axle trailer is required to haul above 100,000lbs). There are so many different regulations by state it's just insane. Oversize hauling is where the money is but there are a lot of headaches with that too. I just stick to the standard 5 axle 80.000lb max hauling as I can go to any state without worrying about getting specific permits and only being allowed on specific routes within the state plus a ton of other headaches I don't want to deal with.
Thank you John here in Canada we have what are called LCV's (long commercial vehicles) usually they consist of two 53 ft. vans linked with a dolly but that dam dolly always wants to squirm and LCV is a special endorsement on your CDL (commercial drivers license). It's really hard to find someone to hire you as a relatively new driver (3 years) much less let you practice to get the LCV endorsement. Also watched your video on Indian drivers and you show a lot class. If most Aussie drivers are like you it seems like it would be a great place to work. Also no blizzards or icy roads to fight with, just those crazy snakes. Thank you so much for your help.
Thanks Jeffery for your kind words. Yes getting into driving the longer trucks may require you to step your way up by way of getting experience. We may not have icy roads but it sure gets hot here.
Good to watch. I've never hooked up to a roadtrain, only B Doubles during the latter part of my career. You see double roadtrains everywhere these days. Even the few runs I did across the paddock were always single trailers.
@RoadTrainAdventures I drove trucks from 1974 until 2004 except for 5 years from 88-93 when I drove coaches for Greyhound. My first trip to Perth was in 1975 from Brisbane in an R600 Flintstone Mack with the 711 motor and a quad box. I remember the South Australian section from Border Village was unsealed until 76. I ended up driving B Doubles for a subbie pulling trailers for Linfox doing mostly Bris- Syd- Mel - Bris. Then we moved to the UK. I never drove trucks here, too much traffic, crap wages and ridiculous driving regulations
Great video mate! Your vids were what got me motivated to start taking a few of my own and share what we do. Keep up the great work! Ive seen you in WA a few times, will have to say gday next time i see you 👍🏽
Geez mate, I use to do that run. Boyne Island, drop a trailer a Bilo and go load, swap trailers then southbound. The pads there was the first place o ever had to back a dolly under a trailer. Keep up the good work mate.
Hey Johno well done Mate I've done a little bit of double train backing I was a vehicle loader for car carrier back in the late 90,s so I got to put them together in their Recency park yard ,but it never went that well you make it look easy ,in recent times I've been on B/doubles with European trucks Auto,s and they won't back up at idle like an American truck and so they tend to surge making it hard to reverse ,we had a yard truck for a while old T600 manual and it would idle a fully loaded b/double in reverse making it so much easier,yes not a big fan of Euro trucks I'm 66 now and grew up with American trucks with roadrangers ,enjoy your channel it's nice keeping up with the industry and you do a good job mate Cheers Kym Adelaide
Thanks Kym. I'm actually in Adelaide now and went passed Regency Park around lunch time. Yes auto don't idle along at all. It's funny to see them lurch around.
Hi, I drive an autobox IVECO, in England, and that will back 44,000Kgs at idle. On mine (a 2020 version [though the 2014 was the same]) you press and hold the R button and it selects R1 SLOW. This "tickles" the electronics, and alters how the accelerator pedal operates, making it more sensitive(?), thereby giving me more control. I'm not sure I would want to go back to driving with 3 pedals and a big stick. At least, not here in the U.K. Maybe, Down Under it would be different. PS. I did 30 years, in a manual, before I got my 1st autobox. That one wasn't bad but, nowhere near as good as the current one.
i learned to reverse trailers with my dad. that guy can nail it, pretty much everytime. but i'm talking boat trailers, campers -- not what you're doing. and that's in the states. i lived down in SA for a coupla years, and...for some reason, i never even thought about how you'd connect all the trailers for a road train. each extra trailer means you've gotta reverse your turn, like i saw you do there. brilliant. also appreciated you showing you pulling forward to get back there. just a humble new subscribe click from a guy who sees a lot of long trucks up here in alaska now, but still, nothing like that heh
@@RoadTrainAdventures where i live in anchorage, winters are usually around -12. fairbanks up in the interior can stay -30 or -40 for weeks, so no complaints about -12! but my brain stops working at 30, 35 (which we get too!) so ya know, we pick our own adventures in this life haha
Never tried backing a B double. Pretty good with a single trailer. The process reminds me of the old style bale trailers when I was a kid. They had a pivoting front axle which turned real quick. You were constantly chasing it to keep it going the direction you wanted. The dolly seems to cause the same effect. The trick is not to let it go too far. And if it does, know when to quit. Pull forward. And start again. Practice makes perfect. But then some people can't even back a car.
That's very good Dave. Know when to stop and pull forward is the key. If you have to go full lock left to right all the time then it's time to pull forward to straighten it up.
Man there are some tricks that make it a bit easier. Having it all straight before you start is well, a good start but many times it isn't possible. So when reversing, a single trailer, turn steering right the trailer goes left. B Double, turn the steering right the B trailer goes right. Since it is in the lead when reversing that's where it's all going. It kinda all reverts back to being like a car a bit (except the zig zag factor LOL). At the risk of mansplaining, there are other little tricks like how far the B trailer headboard pokes out when reversing. * If it pokes out of line 200mm (4") then turn the steering wheel 90deg (1/4 turn) in that direction it pokes out, then as it is almost level turn the steering wheel 180deg (1/2 a turn) to line the whole lot up, both trailers and prime mover, then back to centre. This method doubles the steering input of the first move. Hypothetically, if you used a 1/2 initial turn then the second correction needs to be 1 full turn correction back in the opposite direction (1/2 back to centre + 1/2 correction then centre). * The trick is to catch it before it gets to 4" and use smaller than a 1/4 initial turn, ie 1/8th turn + 1/4 turn then centre. The smaller the first corrective input the smaller the second corrective input. * Go slow, really slow like 1/4 walking pace. The faster you reverse the faster your steering inputs and mirror checks/head movement need to be. Much better to go slow than go fast and make 35 forward and reverse corrections as the latter makes you look like an amateur. You only have to watch stock crate B doubles reversing into sale yards or abattoir unloading docks. They just go dead slow and if they have to pull forward it is all very slow and easy so as to not upset the live cargo. That's the speed you want to aim for. After awhile you stop thinking about all that and do it by feel. If you can back a semi really well and poke it into places others can't then you'll be able to pick up reversing a B double I would've thought. I cut my teeth on multi drop steel deliveries.
Very good explanation. It all depends on the length of your truck too. Most people here are using a cabbage town so they can steer fast unlike my long bonnet truck.
Here, in the U.K., I drive a 'normal' (single trailer) artic and another benefit of DEAD SLOW manoeuvring is, IF you get it wrong, and hit something, you (hopefully) just touch it, rather than ramming it, doing way less damage. Twenty years ago, I was lucky enough to visit a break down area near Toodyay and get a ride back into Perth in a KW. I also saw some truckie backing a Dolly under a Dog in Welshpool. All fascinating stuff, to a Pom.
Fantastic clip mate! All the camera angles were fantastic! I know how much time and effort it takes to set multiple cameras up for shots like that... and you did a great job! Great skills too mate! Truckies like yourself keep this country moving mate! Well done! 👍
Impressive in every regard! Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to provide a glimpse into your incredible skillset! Please keep making these entertaining and informative videos (YT will be a decent suplemental income - - soon!) Mad Respect - from BC, Canada!
Hi John better hot than cold. I drew up in Drumheller Alberta and once the rocks in the valley get hot after June and July's hot days, at night in August it would rarely get below 30c, although 40c yikes. Have a get day mate and take care.
Well done mate, fantastic video. Where were you 10 years ago when I needed a video like this. Brilliantly filmed and made. I was only in Bilo yesterday I’m always looking out for you because you get around, one day I will pass you Australia is not that big 😂
Thank you ,your vid is worth more than 2 dollars...way more , thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge. Camera angles and drone make it so much easier to see and appriciate...please keep up the great work...thankful new fan 🤟
Really impressed! I've just driven a truck with one trailer which had a dolly, and it took some training to reverse,- and as you said, especially hard around corners.
Thanks that was brilliant 👍. Really enjoyed the camera angles. Yep and you back that trailer like the pro you are. Multi trailer reversing very impressive.
Backing more than one trailer plus connecting dollies, is basically considered impossible in America, though we don't run as many multi trailer combos here as you guys seem to do. But still, wow!
Awesome job! As you well known here in the States we have doubles and triples. But they ain't nothing like an Australians road trains. I've driven them here in the states but I sure would like to go and visit and drive one of those long road trains.
Oh David. I can't see it ever happening. There are so many variables that I can't see how AI could ever get it right without driving itself into a brick wall.
❤ FANTASTIC JOHNO, you are a hero and very handy at your trade. Seems everyone that watched thinks so too. The camera's and drone work is awesome.Not to mention the hook up skills. Very imppresive. I know what you'll be doing when you retire. 😊 Either training people or making truck vids.
Mate you are such an inspiration even for an old bloke, that wanted to be a truckie in the eighties, I am to far gone now to think about driving trucks, but MY GOD (if there is one) I would if I could. Thanks man...love your vids, keep em coming.
33 years ago I was made to back a double off the street into the yard on Sargent street Alice to get my C5, I was 18 and been driving to the rail and up the north road on occasion since 16. Best days.
Im a truck driver in the usa i love your vids and love seeing how you do things down their your road trains have always fascinated me i have the dubbles endorsement and can haul multiple tralers but we don't do it very often in the us besides FedEx for example uses 28 foot trailers the only time 3 28 foot trailers or 2 54 foot trailers are allowed is in some states or on the toll roads in the northeast in Canada i know its a lot more common though i just hope someday the usa changes the federal law so we can haul multiple 53 foot trailers otr through multiple states and that company do it
Yeah I follow some truckies in USA and Canada. Imagine just pulling one trailer everywhere. I pull two which means I load and unload 2 but my trips are much longer. I may load one day then drive for up to four days before arriving.
I remember when B Doubles first came on the scene. I was working in a saleyards when the first ones started turning up, no one knew how to back them and it looked like it was going to be a disaster for carting stock as they have to be loaded and unloaded from the back. Road Trains are of course side loaders for stock. It wasn’t long and they were all backing them easily. I suppose that was in the nineties. I noticed from your aerial shot the ‘silo’ there in Biloela. Apparently that came from the Expo site in Brisbane (1988). Jeff
David Hunn When I was still driving I found that some days I couldn't do a thing wrong and the trailer would just fall into place and on other days I couldn't do a thing right and it took multiple attempts at getting the bugger onto the dock. My motto was though, if I got through the day without knocking a wall down or ripping the side out of a trailer I'd done OK. 🙂
I was sitting at the EV charger here a few weeks ago and a driver took NINE attempts to back into the Coles loading dock in front of me. I thought he was going to leave when the steam started coming out his ears ;-)
Awesome bit of driving I’m only on single’s right now don’t get many chances to drive any of our b doubles. Looks like I would prefer a hitch on the prime mover snd just connect dolly to back trailer first then back the front single onto that.
Nice work there Johnno! You made that look real easy 😉. I guess the dolly can come round pretty quick if you're not careful 🙈. Really interesting for us ex-one trailer at a time guys!! Happy motoring 🇬🇧
It’s always a nightmare for me to connect up the dolly as the ring feeder eye can slip OFF to either side. 😂good on ya mate, always watching your vids, amazing
The ring feeder should not move side to side when the handle is up. It should be locked in that position so you'll have to get that fixed to stop that from happening.
Thanks Johno for your efforts the video is interesting and much appreciated, very informative of the process. I drive singles and I learnt a lot. As mentioned in earlier comments its not a comprehensive training video .... but that's not the intent ! well done.
Johnno, that's not your first time. There's a few years in them hands ✋️. Triple and quads must be fun . Pulled a Triple before but it was a John deer tractor 🚜 and 3 silage Trailers on a farm. It wasn't a 10 minute hook up I can tell you 🤣🤣 Till the next one, keep it safe out there
Great video work. Very well produced. Would you be able to show us at some point how you stack the trailers. Totally unrelated, but I have airways looked at those aluminium ingles and wondered what one would be worth. 👍
Impressive backing skills. Obviously, you didn’t share how many takes it took. 😜 I always felt the tighter it was the better I did backing up. Seems like the most trouble I had was backing the tractor without a trailer straight into a space. 😂😂
Hey there Johno, thank you very very much for this wonderful and awesome video explaining how to connect the Road Train. I admire how you revers with two trailers this distance of about 100 meters or more. You are a very good truckie, my congratulations. I'm sorry Johno, I'm still curious: if you had a third trailer, how you would hook up the second dolly and the third trailer? I guess you park the two trailer combination, disconnect the prime mover and you go to hook up the third trailer, then you will hook up the second dolly, and then you reverse to hook up the two connected trailer parked and you have the triple road train ready, is it more or less right? Of course you must still connect the air hoses and the electric plugs and lift the landing legs. I hope you understand what I mean, because I am not so good in English. Once again many thanks for this wonderful and very informative video. The video is perfect with five cameras and the drone. I admire how you have time to make your videos, because you must work, load and drive many hours a day. Thank you very much, you are simply the best 😃👌👍💪
You saw how I connect one trailer on to the second. Just repeat that process. Back a trailer on to the dolly then back that on to the first two.
@@RoadTrainAdventures ok, I understand. Thank you very much, I will always watch your videos, they are great 😃 in two months I will retire, and my plan is in about two or three years make a trip to Australia 🇦🇺 😁
Very impressive john'o , I reckon you may have done that a few times over the years 👍.
Nice one Old Mate that comes with many years of experience 👍👌😀
@@johnjordan4647 Haha, yes this is true 😃👍
All the camera angles were fantastic! I know how much time and effort it takes to set multiple cameras up for shots like that... and you did a great job! Great skills too mate! Truckies like yourself keep this country moving mate! Well done Johhno.
Thanks Darryl. Glad you liked it. Yes seeing it all up marry take time but it's well worth it when people who watch get a lot from it.
@@RoadTrainAdventures oh yes, it is very interesting and I learned a lot again about road trains. Too bad I don't live in Australia otherwise I would be a road train truckie 😁
Come on down. We need more good operators
@@RoadTrainAdventures Oh I would nothing like more than this. But I think it is difficult to get a working permission for foreigners. And then I must make the drivers license for road train, and I am already 61. I think it will stay a dream 🥴
All the Indians get here so it can't be too hard
Too good johno,that was brilliant 👏 Drone up in the air and multiple camera shots of the reversing road train. Bloody marvelous
Thanks heaps
I have watched many U.K. truck drivers struggle with a standard artic ( I am not a truck driver so can’t do it myself ) trying to reverse onto a loading bay. Scandinavian drivers also have great skills on narrow roads. Thank you for sharing
Thanks Rob. Yes I've seen some of the very narrow streets some truckie have to go down. With my truck there is no way of turning. You have to have a cabovet
I would of put it through the coffee shop window in the next town over.
Incredible skill you have there.
Ha ha. Very funny. With practise I'm sure you would be good too.
I thought it would be totally impossible to reverse a road train. Can hardly believe my eyes. Amazing incredible skill. wow.
Ha ha. Thanks Andy. Just takes practice
Look at you reversing that road train like you were born to do it. I struggle to reverse my 6x4 trailer behind my car at the tip on the weekends 😂
Ha ha. But I've had lots of practise. You could reverse like me if you practised.
The longer the trailer the easier they are reverse , and if you can’t see the sides of your trailer it’s worse still 😊
For sure
Good on ya Johno, great set up and I learned something new...Keep them coming...😉👍
Awesome. Thanks Alex
You all have done an amazing job in showing us through, i feel like im driving it with all this set up of cameras and drone right above.
Excellent, best so far.
Very nice. Thanks for watching.
It really is an art reversing dollys and doubles.. love how you make it look so easy.Johnno.. .. still , for mugs like me its just a matter of practice and time in the seat.. love your videos👍
That's right. It's just practice which I've had lots of.
@@RoadTrainAdventures Love your work mate
Awesome. Thanks heaps
A thousand thank yours for answering my question. Very well filmed and explained. I did not realise there were so many safety locks and failsafes or how they all worked. The segment on reversing was one anyone with a van or 5th wheeler should watch. Take as much time as you need and don’t expect to get there first time every time as you demonstrated so well. Safe travel and looking forward to your next video.
Thanks Robert. Yes it's all about practice makes perfect. I've reversed many times before.
@@RoadTrainAdventures I like the term "turn-table" way more than 5th wheel!
Yeah I guess it depends where you live.
@@benpennington1866 When I referred to 5th wheel I must admit I was thinking of the leisure industry where it is more a generic term rather than the semi drivers. I would agree turntable is probably a better term for the professional side of the industry in particular.
@@robertsmith-fj2rx Ah ha. Now I know what a 5th wheel means...
I've always been fascinated by Australian trucking and how vastly different it is from trucking here in the US. Only in the western US states and a few toll roads (Indiana, Ohio and New York) do people ever see "road trains" but they're definately not the same as Australian road trains by any means. There are several variations of double configurations used in the US and the only triple configuration allowed is 3 "pup" or 26-28ft trailers coupled by a single axle dolly and secured by pintile connections making them nearly impossible to back up. I've seen 2 53ft trailers hooked together via pintile connection with a double axle dolly many times and that's not something I care to try. Hard enough with a single 53ft trailer!!! You definately showed immense skill backing like you did, amazing job!! And the camera angles were awesome. Great video.
Awesome. Thanks Matt. I'd love to try driving arrive the US. It's funny how you guys want to come here and I want to go there
I live in New Zealand and also lived in Australia and often go there to western Australia. I would say USA roads are still wat better in comparison wider and and more long stretches. But then I also wonder there's not road trains or double B as much in Australia. Is it because USA have too many trucks and transport companies.? That you don't need to have a road trains.
Unfortunately I don't know much about other countries.
@@alliswell3372 You gotta remember that the US interstate system was initially developed and constructed to allow for mass movements of military troops and equipment efficiently. It was not really intended to be what it is today and Eisenhower would absolutely love to see what the system has become now. While the roads do leave a lot to be desired sometimes due to poor maintenance and decades of neglect, for the most part the US interstate system is unparalleled worldwide. The ability to be able to drive coast to coast and from north to south without many issues is absolutely astounding. A container from Asia can arrive at the Port of Long Beach or LA and within 5 days be on the opposite end of the country and vice versa. No other country has the vast network of high speed highways and certainly no country has roads spanning the entire country. Trucking in the US isn't the greatest, lots of mega carriers don't pay drivers livable wages and will leave them sit without pay for 3 or 4 days in the middle of nowhere. I'm fortunate enough to work at a good company that pays salary and not based on miles (cents per mile as we call it). So I'm a rare driver who's paid whether I'm driving or sitting, so it's in the best interest of the company to make sure I'm rolling as much as possible. And what sweetens the pot for me is I'm paid when I'm at home relaxing. I'd still like to experience Australia and how trucking is there just to see what the differences are.
@@alliswell3372 oh, and the reason road trains aren't a thing in the US has a lot to do with the amount of infrastructure that's available. It's super expensive to run a road train in the US, 3 to 4 times as expensive due to state required permits to haul more than 80,000lbs (that's the max legal weight of all 5 axle trucks in the US). Several states allow for much higher weight limits but obtaining those permits are VERY expensive so most US carriers find it easier to just roll with the standard 80,000lb IRP (Internationally Registered Plate to allow boarder crossing with Canada and Mexico as well as operating legally in all US states). Most of the western US states will allow trucks to haul between 100,000 to 150,000lbs gross weight but at a significantly higher cost and very strict axle requirements (usually a 5 or 6 axle trailer is required to haul above 100,000lbs). There are so many different regulations by state it's just insane. Oversize hauling is where the money is but there are a lot of headaches with that too. I just stick to the standard 5 axle 80.000lb max hauling as I can go to any state without worrying about getting specific permits and only being allowed on specific routes within the state plus a ton of other headaches I don't want to deal with.
that was good show johno i like watching yr trips and all the different places you go to
Awesome. Thanks Johnny
you are very good at backing up the tractor, admiring
For sure
@@RoadTrainAdventures master
Yeah
Thank you John here in Canada we have what are called LCV's (long commercial vehicles) usually they consist of two 53 ft. vans linked with a dolly but that dam dolly always wants to squirm and LCV is a special endorsement on your CDL (commercial drivers license). It's really hard to find someone to hire you as a relatively new driver (3 years) much less let you practice to get the LCV endorsement. Also watched your video on Indian drivers and you show a lot class. If most Aussie drivers are like you it seems like it would be a great place to work. Also no blizzards or icy roads to fight with, just those crazy snakes. Thank you so much for your help.
Thanks Jeffery for your kind words. Yes getting into driving the longer trucks may require you to step your way up by way of getting experience.
We may not have icy roads but it sure gets hot here.
@@RoadTrainAdventures We do have icy roads, it's just that Jonno doesn't go anywhere near the snowy areas... ;-)
Good to watch. I've never hooked up to a roadtrain, only B Doubles during the latter part of my career. You see double roadtrains everywhere these days. Even the few runs I did across the paddock were always single trailers.
Wow that must have been a while ago when you did that.
@RoadTrainAdventures I drove trucks from 1974 until 2004 except for 5 years from 88-93 when I drove coaches for Greyhound. My first trip to Perth was in 1975 from Brisbane in an R600 Flintstone Mack with the 711 motor and a quad box. I remember the South Australian section from Border Village was unsealed until 76. I ended up driving B Doubles for a subbie pulling trailers for Linfox doing mostly Bris- Syd- Mel - Bris. Then we moved to the UK. I never drove trucks here, too much traffic, crap wages and ridiculous driving regulations
Wow now that would have been a trip. All those kilometres on gravel
Wow now that would have been a trip. All those kilometres on gravel
@@RoadTrainAdventures The first time I did the Nullarbor it was dirt road all the way from Ceduna to Norseman. Now THAT was a long time ago !
I'm not sure what's more impressive, the reversing or the camera work. Great vid, thanks
Ha ha. Thanks. I do try to put on a good show.
Great video mate!
Your vids were what got me motivated to start taking a few of my own and share what we do.
Keep up the great work!
Ive seen you in WA a few times, will have to say gday next time i see you 👍🏽
Yeah for sure. If you see me around, sing out and let's catch up.
Wonderful camera work Johno, keep up the good work mate! 👍
Thanks TK
Great video. Excellent driving.
Thanks heaps
Lucky you got flat ground .we need a.slight up hill grade 😂 keep up the good work 👏
Thanks Paul. Yeah you gotta have a flat area.
Love your work, its what experience lets you do and your doing it in style, beautiful.
Thanks John. Very nice
Great video! Thank you to chief instructor Johnno. Cheers :)
Ha ha. Thanks Steve
It's always amazing to see a roadtrain in action 👍🏻
You are right
Very good
Very well explained. Excellent skills mate
Awesome. Thanks heaps
Great camera work, and even better driving. Interesting to note the constant stearing wheel action
Thank you.
Thanks Robert. The only thing I didn't mention was to start as little as possible.
Another great video there Johnno….
Bugger of a spot for crack in the screen.
Thanks Trevor. The crank ad actually not in my vision. It's to the side but it will be replaced.
Geez mate, I use to do that run. Boyne Island, drop a trailer a Bilo and go load, swap trailers then southbound. The pads there was the first place o ever had to back a dolly under a trailer.
Keep up the good work mate.
Awesome. Thanks heaps
Good tips johno never done or backed a road train only b double I will keep those pointers in mind thanks for sharing
Thanks Jordan. I didn't give any advice on how to reverse but glad it helped.
Your backing is very good. Slow and easy.
Years of experience
Hey Johno Ron here, hi from Kiwi land, love all your video's, you the man.
Awesome. Thanks heaps
Hey Johno well done Mate I've done a little bit of double train backing I was a vehicle loader for car carrier back in the late 90,s so I got to put them together in their Recency park yard ,but it never went that well you make it look easy ,in recent times I've been on B/doubles with European trucks Auto,s and they won't back up at idle like an American truck and so they tend to surge making it hard to reverse ,we had a yard truck for a while old T600 manual and it would idle a fully loaded b/double in reverse making it so much easier,yes not a big fan of Euro trucks I'm 66 now and grew up with American trucks with roadrangers ,enjoy your channel it's nice keeping up with the industry and you do a good job mate
Cheers Kym
Adelaide
Thanks Kym. I'm actually in Adelaide now and went passed Regency Park around lunch time.
Yes auto don't idle along at all. It's funny to see them lurch around.
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Ah enjoying our weather mate rug up
It's not as cold as Melbourne
Hi, I drive an autobox IVECO, in England, and that will back 44,000Kgs at idle. On mine (a 2020 version [though the 2014 was the same]) you press and hold the R button and it selects R1 SLOW. This "tickles" the electronics, and alters how the accelerator pedal operates, making it more sensitive(?), thereby giving me more control.
I'm not sure I would want to go back to driving with 3 pedals and a big stick. At least, not here in the U.K. Maybe, Down Under it would be different.
PS. I did 30 years, in a manual, before I got my 1st autobox. That one wasn't bad but, nowhere near as good as the current one.
Yeah you're right. Here there are a lot of cabover trucks for the city. It's much better than a long bonnet.
Great work Johnno, another superb effort showcasing your skills and professionalism - keeping Australia moving.👍👍
Thanks Garry
i learned to reverse trailers with my dad. that guy can nail it, pretty much everytime. but i'm talking boat trailers, campers -- not what you're doing.
and that's in the states. i lived down in SA for a coupla years, and...for some reason, i never even thought about how you'd connect all the trailers for a road train. each extra trailer means you've gotta reverse your turn, like i saw you do there. brilliant. also appreciated you showing you pulling forward to get back there.
just a humble new subscribe click from a guy who sees a lot of long trucks up here in alaska now, but still, nothing like that heh
Thanks heaps Jay. Yes Practise makes perfect. Wow Alaska,and I sometimes complain about minus 3 degrees here at times.
@@RoadTrainAdventures where i live in anchorage, winters are usually around -12. fairbanks up in the interior can stay -30 or -40 for weeks, so no complaints about -12! but my brain stops working at 30, 35 (which we get too!) so ya know, we pick our own adventures in this life haha
Awesome. Thanks
Never tried backing a B double. Pretty good with a single trailer. The process reminds me of the old style bale trailers when I was a kid. They had a pivoting front axle which turned real quick. You were constantly chasing it to keep it going the direction you wanted. The dolly seems to cause the same effect. The trick is not to let it go too far. And if it does, know when to quit. Pull forward. And start again. Practice makes perfect. But then some people can't even back a car.
That's very good Dave. Know when to stop and pull forward is the key. If you have to go full lock left to right all the time then it's time to pull forward to straighten it up.
Man there are some tricks that make it a bit easier. Having it all straight before you start is well, a good start but many times it isn't possible.
So when reversing, a single trailer, turn steering right the trailer goes left.
B Double, turn the steering right the B trailer goes right. Since it is in the lead when reversing that's where it's all going. It kinda all reverts back to being like a car a bit (except the zig zag factor LOL).
At the risk of mansplaining, there are other little tricks like how far the B trailer headboard pokes out when reversing.
* If it pokes out of line 200mm (4") then turn the steering wheel 90deg (1/4 turn) in that direction it pokes out, then as it is almost level turn the steering wheel 180deg (1/2 a turn) to line the whole lot up, both trailers and prime mover, then back to centre. This method doubles the steering input of the first move. Hypothetically, if you used a 1/2 initial turn then the second correction needs to be 1 full turn correction back in the opposite direction (1/2 back to centre + 1/2 correction then centre).
* The trick is to catch it before it gets to 4" and use smaller than a 1/4 initial turn, ie 1/8th turn + 1/4 turn then centre. The smaller the first corrective input the smaller the second corrective input.
* Go slow, really slow like 1/4 walking pace. The faster you reverse the faster your steering inputs and mirror checks/head movement need to be. Much better to go slow than go fast and make 35 forward and reverse corrections as the latter makes you look like an amateur.
You only have to watch stock crate B doubles reversing into sale yards or abattoir unloading docks. They just go dead slow and if they have to pull forward it is all very slow and easy so as to not upset the live cargo. That's the speed you want to aim for.
After awhile you stop thinking about all that and do it by feel. If you can back a semi really well and poke it into places others can't then you'll be able to pick up reversing a B double I would've thought.
I cut my teeth on multi drop steel deliveries.
Very good explanation. It all depends on the length of your truck too. Most people here are using a cabbage town so they can steer fast unlike my long bonnet truck.
Here, in the U.K., I drive a 'normal' (single trailer) artic and another benefit of DEAD SLOW manoeuvring is, IF you get it wrong, and hit something, you (hopefully) just touch it, rather than ramming it, doing way less damage.
Twenty years ago, I was lucky enough to visit a break down area near Toodyay and get a ride back into Perth in a KW.
I also saw some truckie backing a Dolly under a Dog in Welshpool.
All fascinating stuff, to a Pom.
Very good
Fantastic clip mate! All the camera angles were fantastic! I know how much time and effort it takes to set multiple cameras up for shots like that... and you did a great job! Great skills too mate! Truckies like yourself keep this country moving mate! Well done! 👍
Thanks heaps
Impressive in every regard! Thank you for taking the time and making the effort to provide a glimpse into your incredible skillset! Please keep making these entertaining and informative videos (YT will be a decent suplemental income - - soon!)
Mad Respect - from BC, Canada!
Thanks BC and great to have you along from Canada.
Great job Johno your videos are more informative than anyone else doing these vlogs great work keep it up.
Awesome. Thanks heaps. I try
Simply superb video, thanks 🙏
Awesome. Thanks for watching
Absolutely perfect 👍
Your Good You!
Thanks heaps
Hi John better hot than cold. I drew up in Drumheller Alberta and once the rocks in the valley get hot after June and July's hot days, at night in August it would rarely get below 30c, although 40c yikes. Have a get day mate and take care.
You too
" It's reasonable". Selling your self out Johnno. Looks spot on to me. :)
Just me being fussy
Good job it's not as easy as it looks I think I need more practice thanks for the video's👍
Thanks Steve. Yes I've had lots of practise.
Well done mate, fantastic video. Where were you 10 years ago when I needed a video like this. Brilliantly filmed and made. I was only in Bilo yesterday I’m always looking out for you because you get around, one day I will pass you Australia is not that big 😂
Thanks Corey. Yeah keep looking it for me. I'm south of Adelaide loading at the moment for Queensland but I'm not sure if I'm going straight up.
This is amazing! Skills!!!! Thanks for uploading this video! I keep practing on reversing double pup trailers!!!! I have some vids.
That's great. Practice makes prefect.
Nice backing Johnno…loved it
Thanks Mark
Love ur Kenworth T909 road train mate.
Thanks Adrian. It's a good one
Awesome camera work bro 👍
Thanks Brandon. Great to have you along
Thanks
Thanks back
Thank you ,your vid is worth more than 2 dollars...way more , thank you for sharing your skills and knowledge. Camera angles and drone make it so much easier to see and appriciate...please keep up the great work...thankful new fan 🤟
Awesome. I'm glad you got a lot out of this video.
Your videos are fantastic. So happy to see your channel growing and you getting good views now!
Oh thanks heaps.
Really impressed! I've just driven a truck with one trailer which had a dolly, and it took some training to reverse,- and as you said, especially hard around corners.
Thanks heaps but it's just about practice. You could do this too given the opportunity.
@@RoadTrainAdventures Thanks very much, for boosting my self-confidence! ;)
Anytime
Thanks that was brilliant 👍. Really enjoyed the camera angles. Yep and you back that trailer like the pro you are. Multi trailer reversing very impressive.
Thanks heaps
Fantastic camera angles, including the drone. And such precision!
Thanks Dirk
Backing more than one trailer plus connecting dollies, is basically considered impossible in America, though we don't run as many multi trailer combos here as you guys seem to do. But still, wow!
It's all about practice. As we do it more is easy.
Awesome job! As you well known here in the States we have doubles and triples. But they ain't nothing like an Australians road trains.
I've driven them here in the states but I sure would like to go and visit and drive one of those long road trains.
Thanks Rodney. Come on over. We need more good operators.
That's kickarse brilliant reversing mate 👍
Thanks heaps
Wow , I can hardly lineup one trailer . Good job 👏.
Keep practising and you will get it.
Another great vid..Legend! Well done..I still struggle backing up my box trailer 😂😂
Ha ha. Practice makes perfect
Awesome video as always. Keen them coming
Thanks Rachel
Excellent work I love it thanks 👍👍🙏🙏
Thanks Farzad
Great effort mate, although you forgot to mention the all important "tug test" !!
Yeah this was more of a quick basic kind of connect up.
Really helpful thanks Johno.
Thanks heaps
G’DAY DRIVER
AWESOME
MUCH APPRECIATE THE SHOW!!!
💪🤩🤙❤😇🙏
Awesome. Thanks
I,d love to see Elon Musk make an autonomous vehicle (and robot) to do your job. 😹😹 Respect to people like you!
Oh David. I can't see it ever happening. There are so many variables that I can't see how AI could ever get it right without driving itself into a brick wall.
We’ll let them concentrate on trying to master driving corporate types around LA between meetings. Work like yours should be left to the experts 👍
Yes you can't get rid of humans in every job.
Are suicide knobs otherwise known also as wheel spinners illegal in Australia?
I've never heard of either of those terms. What are they?
Great content Johnno 👌 perfectly executed mate!!
Thanks heaps Scott
Wish you Good luck and peace be upon you. Great respect for you . From Pakistan
Thanks again
❤ FANTASTIC JOHNO, you are a hero and very handy at your trade. Seems everyone that watched thinks so too. The camera's and drone work is awesome.Not to mention the hook up skills. Very imppresive. I know what you'll be doing when you retire. 😊 Either training people or making truck vids.
I'd love to make travel videos
Bilo Hay I speny my youth near Theodorenot that far from there. Your backing was amasing
Awesome. Thanks
Put Biloela on the map mate
Safe travels shiny side up👍
Ha ha. I don't think I'm that big.
Mate you are such an inspiration even for an old bloke, that wanted to be a truckie in the eighties, I am to far gone now to think about driving trucks, but MY GOD (if there is one) I would if I could.
Thanks man...love your vids, keep em coming.
Thanks Matt. Live your dream through me hey...
@@RoadTrainAdventuresGood one Johnno.
Great video Johnno👌
Thanks Rick.
33 years ago I was made to back a double off the street into the yard on Sargent street Alice to get my C5, I was 18 and been driving to the rail and up the north road on occasion since 16. Best days.
Very good
Great work Johnno skill factor high as per usual Kia ora
Thanks again
And or course, holding your mouth the right way always helps.
I’ll stick to wide heavy and tall. 4.3 meter wide is good enough for me on this load. Well done sir
Very good
Master train truck driver .Good on you mare keep it up
Awesome. Thanks heaps
Im a truck driver in the usa i love your vids and love seeing how you do things down their your road trains have always fascinated me i have the dubbles endorsement and can haul multiple tralers but we don't do it very often in the us besides FedEx for example uses 28 foot trailers the only time 3 28 foot trailers or 2 54 foot trailers are allowed is in some states or on the toll roads in the northeast in Canada i know its a lot more common though i just hope someday the usa changes the federal law so we can haul multiple 53 foot trailers otr through multiple states and that company do it
Yeah I follow some truckies in USA and Canada. Imagine just pulling one trailer everywhere. I pull two which means I load and unload 2 but my trips are much longer. I may load one day then drive for up to four days before arriving.
I remember when B Doubles first came on the scene. I was working in a saleyards when the first ones started turning up, no one knew how to back them and it looked like it was going to be a disaster for carting stock as they have to be loaded and unloaded from the back. Road Trains are of course side loaders for stock. It wasn’t long and they were all backing them easily. I suppose that was in the nineties. I noticed from your aerial shot the ‘silo’ there in Biloela. Apparently that came from the Expo site in Brisbane (1988). Jeff
The silo cane from Brisbane. Well I didn't know that. You're a wealth of knowledge.
I knew I'd seen that before. Well spotted 👍🇦🇺
Very good
Very good camera angle and it’s well helpful video 🤙
Awesome. Thanks
Thank you for your work.💪💪💪
Awesome. Thanks for watching
@@RoadTrainAdventures I am supporting you Mate
Awesome
Great video as always, stay safe 👏👍.
Thanks Ian
Skills bro 👍
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Loving the footage, i thought you guys dont like reversing but i gu
But I guess you can reverse, keep the footages comming
Most of us have to reverse at some point.
For sure
David Hunn
When I was still driving I found that some days I couldn't do a thing wrong and the trailer would just fall into place and on other days I couldn't do a thing right and it took multiple attempts at getting the bugger onto the dock. My motto was though, if I got through the day without knocking a wall down or ripping the side out of a trailer I'd done OK. 🙂
Ha ha
I was sitting at the EV charger here a few weeks ago and a driver took NINE attempts to back into the Coles loading dock in front of me. I thought he was going to leave when the steam started coming out his ears ;-)
@greghudson9717 oh wow
@@RoadTrainAdventures Guess what he was wearing on his head ? ;-)
Ha ha. I see
Brilliant control
Awesome. Thanks Rod
Nice one champ👍
Thanks Les
Awesome bit of driving I’m only on single’s right now don’t get many chances to drive any of our b doubles.
Looks like I would prefer a hitch on the prime mover snd just connect dolly to back trailer first then back the front single onto that.
You can start that way but it's better if you get used to backing a trailer with a dolly.
Liz Smileys Dad, Good on ya mate👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks heaps
Nice work there Johnno! You made that look real easy 😉. I guess the dolly can come round pretty quick if you're not careful 🙈. Really interesting for us ex-one trailer at a time guys!! Happy motoring 🇬🇧
Oh thanks Bob. Glad you liked it.
That was excellent
Thanks Jonathan
Excellent video
Thanks Jessica
It’s always a nightmare for me to connect up the dolly as the ring feeder eye can slip OFF to either side. 😂good on ya mate, always watching your vids, amazing
The ring feeder should not move side to side when the handle is up. It should be locked in that position so you'll have to get that fixed to stop that from happening.
Good work mate. You make it look easy.
Ha ha. Thanks Greg. I've been doing it for a while now.
Thanks Johno for your efforts the video is interesting and much appreciated, very informative of the process. I drive singles and I learnt a lot. As mentioned in earlier comments its not a comprehensive training video .... but that's not the intent ! well done.
Thanks Tony
Johnno, that's not your first time. There's a few years in them hands ✋️. Triple and quads must be fun .
Pulled a Triple before but it was a John deer tractor 🚜 and 3 silage Trailers on a farm. It wasn't a 10 minute hook up I can tell you 🤣🤣
Till the next one, keep it safe out there
Thanks Eugene
great video thanks
Awesome. Thanks Tom
Three pivot points. I still don't know how that is done even after seeing it. Thanks for the video.
Ha ha. Thanks anyway. It's all about practice. With practise you can get good at anything.
Great video.....
Thanks heaps
Great video work. Very well produced. Would you be able to show us at some point how you stack the trailers. Totally unrelated, but I have airways looked at those aluminium ingles and wondered what one would be worth. 👍
You are right
Yeah for sure. When I have to stack up next I'll definitely do one
Impressive backing skills. Obviously, you didn’t share how many takes it took. 😜
I always felt the tighter it was the better I did backing up. Seems like the most trouble I had was backing the tractor without a trailer straight into a space. 😂😂
What you saw was how many times I had to go back and forth. I'm pretty experienced at backing up so usually get it right within one or two goes.
Bloody impressive reversing of the dolly. That’s where many years experience shows 👍
Awesome. Thanks