J. Michael Luttig and Laurence Tribe make the case for Trump’s disqualification from public office
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2023
- In a new article for The Atlantic, retired former federal judge J. Michael Luttig and top legal scholar Laurence Tribe make the case that the Constitution includes a provision that disqualifies Donald Trump from holding public office again. Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment is also known as the “disqualification clause.” It’s only two sentences long but it could doom Trump’s bid to return to the White House. The disqualification clause “forbids the former president from holding the office of the presidency again because of his conduct in and around January 6, 2021,” says Judge Luttig. And as Tribe points out, it’s not a sanction against an individual. “The framers of the 14th Amendment took great care not to treat this as a punishment … Nobody has a right to be president without meeting the qualifications.”
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I do NOT understand how people who are incarcerated are prohibited from voting, but could run for office. It makes no sense.
Excellent point! It boggles the mind.
Because who would ever think people would vote for a criminal. Since it wasn’t thought of when the rules were made, it’s allowed.
The 14th wouldn't disqualify him because of his conviction, it would disqualify him as an insurrectionist. Any one who is over 35 and a natural citizen can run. The lack of qualifications was considered a protection against the office becoming the province of a ruling elite, I think. The founders were always thinking about Rome when as they designed the Republic. I think the lack of qualifications for the executive office were intended to prevent the patrician/pleb dynamic that created most of the internally generated drama of the Roman Republic.
I believe the founding fathers wanted to prevent political prosecutions to disqualify people. You see it in Russia. We cannot fall into that here. MAGA thinks we are descending into it, but that is the facade Trump weaves into their heads.
If you aren't eligible to vote then you shouldn't be able to run for office ,and if you are convicted of a crime you shouldn't be allowed to be elected.
How do we petition our secretary of state to have Trump taken off the ballot as Mr. Luttig and Mr. Tribe suggest? I will sign that petition in a heartbeat!
A petition wouldn't do it; perhaps if you managed to get 51% of the state's voters, it might carry some weight. But if a particular Secretary of State refuses to remove a name, the next step would be for a voter, a voter group, another candidate, to sue the SoS when that name appeared on a primary or general election ballot.
Create a petition and then publicize it. Lots of petition websites you can use.
Me to if you find out we must get all states to get this done before the next election 🎉😂🎉😅😊🎉🎉
@@marshwetland3808 A petition only has whatever weight a statute assigns it. If the law does not provide for a petition, then it holds no weight. There is no statutory requirement or allowance for a petition in 14aS3.
Do you know who your SOS is? Once you figure that out you still will not petition them, will you? Too much msnbc .
May GOD ALMIGHTY bless both of these two heroes and patriots!
Two of the BEST men I know and I've never met. Over the years, they are an entire Library for many... just listen to so much knowledge from them. Simply explained.
*This **_NEEDS_** to be DIRECTLY presented to EACH AND EVERY State's Attorney!*
*GAME OVER. **_CASE CLOSED!!!_*
With the correction of "Current President TO Former President" during the professor's talking points.
Let's do this now. Trump cannot run for president again.
Yeah, I'm expecting a lot of reporters are preparing to ask qns of all the secretaries of state. Good to see this mechanism made clear.
@@mojo7495 I see - so you're one of the remaining 12% who fervently believes cheeto is innocent of all wrongdoing? 🤣🤣🤣
Sadly money, power and greed seems to have the strong hold over all standards of morals.
I feel like this should apply to all the congress and senate traitors as well
Absolutely! I have been saying this since they voted not to accept the vote!
Yep, Jim Jordan come on down.
AMEN
Agree, but first they would have to be found to have instigated an insurrection. Or aiding in an insurrection as those gentlemen just explained.
Agreed
When I think of America, I think of people like the judge and the professor. They are beacons of hope for our future
They are both old, and only two voices, lost in a maelstrom of idiocrasy and cowardly ignorant people!
... and for a more perfect union. Isn't it obvious by now? The perilous degree of willful ignorance in this nation has from it's has been staggering. It's now fatal. PITY!!!!
The Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3 disqualification from public office, should apply to the representatives in the House, who aided and abetted as well.
Absolutely. AG Merrick Garland has said that he will pursue ALL of those responsible for Jan 6, which should include members of Congress. There are also Republicans currently trying to undermine Trump's prosecution; they should be charged with Obstruction of Justice... They KNEW what they were doing was wrong, illegal, they did it anyway... It is time for them to pay their debt to society! PROSECUTE! PROSECUTE! PROSECUTE!
Those bottom feeding scum suckers need to be prosecuted too
Do you even UNDERSTAND the Constitution?
It is you who does NOT understand the US Constitution, the Supreme Law of the Land, The 14th Amendment, Section 3 DEMANDS, it is NOT a request: "Disqualification from Holding Office
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability." It specifically makes reference to the office of President, VP, Senate, or Rep, "or hold any office, civil or military, under the US, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath... to support the Constitution of the US, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same. WAKE TF UP!
@@victorjohnson4000
@@marydumas5350 You need to WAKE UP. That's your talking point as a HATER and obviously a Democrat, "INSURRECTION". PLEASE.
Every PERSON WOMAN MAN deserves a CAMERA in the courtroom so they see the trial on TV.
Perfect!!!
A very good pun Indeed. :) Kudos
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and he is allowed to have the invisible jet pictures signed by ( hehe ) Mrs.Lockheed..to keep with his 'picture cards'..
in his prison cell.
Trump said he would pardon insurrectionists. If that isn't given comfort to insurrectionists, what is? Thank you Judge Lutig and Professor Tribe for the legal education.
He said we love you stand down and stand by.
@@leticiavillafranco6347after waiting for hours and being begged by everyone around him
*If that isn't giving comfort
MTG needs to be removed for this reason.
He could have pardoned them right after J6, and he did not! He was in office until January 20th! He could have pardoned them,yet, he did not! Fu€k DJT and his gifted out springs
Why isn't this information being layed out in congress and being discussed on the floor televised for the American people to decide
Maria: That is probably coming after the August break.
The US Constitution includes language intended to prevent tyranny, a dictatorship. IT MUST BE ENFORCED, we must DEMAND IT!
Any of the Repubs who sided with Trump would oppose it being discussed, since it applies to them as well.
Correct. Good point! Prosecution could apply to them, in addition to expulsion from office, never to be permitted to run again... Not surprisingly, prosecution is also being opposed... @@jefftheriault3914
Congress doesn't need to be involved. It's up to the states to decide. The only time Congress would get involved is if they want to remove said disability. Which means that Congress could overrule his removal from the ballots with a two thirds vote in both the House and Senate.
Saw this when it first aired, and 6 days later, this is worth a repeat.
This is SO important : 14th Amendment Section 3 is SELF-EXECUTING; thus Trump is already disqualified.
Judge Luttig and Prof Tribe are the best in their fields.
Why does it take so long for it to be enforced? it is not a punishment. Running for President is against the law.
@@sharonjoy6234we’ve never faced a crisis like this- and then there are those who proceed ahead as if Trump is within bounds. It’s truly awful. And there are politicians who don’t even KNOW what the Constitution says…and Republicans who choose to ignore it. Unreal.
Yet the 5th amendment guarantees due process. No one is guilty of something without due process. No trial, not guilty.
@@davidclough3951 but the insurrection was out front plus it is actually mentioned in the 14th as a disqualifying issue. It doesn’t say “refer to the Fifth”. Trump can hope so of course…..
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My disagreement with you here is he may not have been found guilty in a court of law but that does not erase the crime committed.
I’m so grateful to these two honorable men for bringing Americans the truth about amendment 14, section 3. We the people will not have an insurrectionist in the presidency, the Congress, or any government offices.
Wonderful commentary 😊
The most important charge was not yet made. Aiding the insurrection while the Capitol was breached by refusing to recall the mob.
Trump had the duty, the ability and the opportunity but he refused. That is known in the law as omission as actus reus. Inaction as criminal action.
All secretaries of state can and should him exclude him.
Even without the disqualification clause, fret not. EVEN IF he is somehow allowed to run, Americans will NOT vote him in. 2016 was a horrible mistake mainly the result of too many of us not voting and likewise, not being involved enough I'm our own governments to make sure our country is run well enough that there aren't millions voting out of ignorance, lack of education, and SPITE and anger at being tired of other corrupt politicians.
We need to determine who in Congress and Senate supported the 1/6 insurrection, and remove them. They are a clear and present danger to our national security and our democracy!
“….And with that being said, “PLEASE let her church say, “AAAAMMMMEEEENNNN, AMEN”!!! G-MOMMEE
This is the sane thing that should have already been put in motion!
Read & follow our Constitution!!
This is sickening, Justice Thomas has taken gifts from rich people.
Yeah!! In 2015!
@@joannholmes8726 Oh he should GO, too.
a curious thing why has the 14th amendment, section 3 hasn't been implemented
Can you imagine if OBAMA would have done exact same thing as TRUMP what Fox News would say?
❤ Thank you all! Good men and good will!
This explains exactly why he wants to terminate the Constitution.. How lucky we are to have these two great minds..
Mediocre.
EXACTLY AND BECOME A DICTATOR! THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN UNLESS HE IS THE DICTATOR IN CELL BLOCK D!
We all need to petition our Secretaries of State to keep the Dumpster's name OFF the ballot!
Good luck with that😒. If they don't follow the non supreme court to stop gerrymandering. What makes you think this will work? Just look how GA is now trying to change the pardon rules.
2nd Amendment solutions to 14th Amendment problems
@@arewefreeloser again
I just read comment there is an Org working on that "Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW)."
Count me in!!!
Gratitude from the many of us who still believe that integrity isn’t a dirty word.
The problem is still Trump ?yet Joe Biden is still president and is the biggest criminal of all. Joe Biden and his thug son Hunter Biden funneled over 10 million dollars from Ukraine and Joe is still in office. And there's evidence everywhere. We have some really dumb people in this country. A lot dumber then Trump. This country is turning into another Russia!
Who has integrity in politics? Biden’s family has been taking millions for access to Joe. We are seeing policies that show its money well spent. Republicans don’t do anything. Both sides are for themselves not the people.
Amen
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I really enjoyed watching and learning about the section 3 of the 14th amendment. This was so informative. Thank you.
I honestly can’t believe this is even a conversation. The fact that the former President is even allowed to be a candidate, along with knowing that he gets more popular with his base with every indictment, is just beyond mind blowing.
You are as constitutionally ignorant.
The only entity that can enforce the 14th Amendment is the CONGRESS.
NOT state Secretaries or state election officials. The Amendment specifically says so in section 5:
“The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.”
It is so easy to dupe Americans when the intention of the person(s) doing the duping have an agenda.
Be smarter.
Donald Trump & his cult have us well on our way to "sh*thole country" status. Not "Great" at all.
I am staggered that people are discussing "Trump's disqualification to run for office". Everything about him and all he's done should instantly disqualify him, unless there is no standard to run for office. Ordinary citizens are fired from their jobs for less. What a sick and twisted system this is for the highest office in the land.
They’re only accusations at this point, not proven fact.
@@MJMcKenzie322 Yeah you're right, hr's probably completely innocent of everything we've physically seen him do.
@@MJMcKenzie322 Actually it is proven fact, RUSSIAN TROLL
@@MJMcKenzie322five year old yt acct. = either a kid or a trollski in St Petemocskva
@@donnewton7858 Nothing screams "insurrection" like telling people to "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard" lol
When will other GOP leaders get a spine and reject Trump?
They won't.
When will the commierats get a brain and kick joey out of office
Their cowardice is why that man is now able to run for, and is may even be elected to, the office of the President. If the Senate Republicans had convicted him after either of his impeachments, if those in Congress didn’t repeat his lies about election fraud, if they hadn’t tried to reject the true electors on J6 after the violence, if the House Republicans weren’t now spending all their time trying to conjure a spectre of Joe Biden as corrupt out of a great cloud of smoke with no fire, and if the Republicans running against trump weren’t afraid of telling the truth about him, we wouldn’t be in a situation where so many people believe those lies. If even half the elected Republicans around the country had the courage to speak the truth, almost no one would consider voting for that man.
They can't, because if the GOP don't nominate Trump as their candidate he will form his own party, 'The MAGA Party'. Game over for Republicans...They are stuck with a man who is 'Pure Evil' with a following of Maga Morons that will do anything for him...Anything
The RCN are showing us that they support want to be Dictators and Criminals, they should be asked to leave America, because they are not for America. Grand Old Party is now the Loathsome Old Party. The leaders are as corrupt as Trump.
Thank you for explaining very clear the law and the constitution !💝
How refreshing, two incredibly scholarly individuals who are also humble and give credit to the other. This is what real maturity and professionalism look like.
Wow! Thank you, gentlemen. Judge Luttig, Professor Tribe, and Mr. Ali Velshi. This interview is a very real service to the country - and at a time when such is so clearly needed. My humble gratitude to you all. 😊
i think so too, but being it's the mags that really need to see this more than anyone else, and given the intellectual failings of said people, im afraid it will have very little impact. it has come down to "vote for me or i'll have you killed" stage.
Tribe is a straight democrat liar
YES ! The dream team answering the most important questions of the day !!
My humble gratitude too all these three gentlemen
@@lizamma6088
I will pass that along to them.
The 14th amendment is not an optional amendment, it's part of the US Constitution to which all politicians and Presidents swear to uphold.
Exactly!!!!
*presidents
No Criminal President should have their secret service rights revoked.
It has to be interpreted. You don't just read it aloud and apply it to pending cases that don't even have any conclusion
He won't need it in prison.
Thank you for hosting these brilliant scholars, Ali. We all need to hear this critical information, and our officials need to adhere to the Constitution. 🤔
Thank you gentleman for educating people on the 14th amendment. This is so important.
14(3)
If two legal geniuses are sounding the Fascist Alarm, we should listen up!! As a Pennsylvanian, I'm outraged my vote for Biden was going to be overturned by these MAGAs.
Especially since Judge Luttig is a very conservative judge. He’s showing what Republicans with integrity do.
McCarthy and McConnell knew about the 14th amendment but they let Trump go,
Looks like they are silentll throwing Trump to the dogs while appeasing the base.... knowing full well the odds are against Trump...
To me, the ones in the senate and in Congress that still support Trump are cowards and traitors. Plain and simple.
About HALF of the gop need to be disqualified at this point for their role in this entire travesty. They sat back and hoped dump would triumph because had that happened, there'd be no need for any action on their parts. They should have spoken up 6 years ago.
Cowards.
Hence, they should also be charged.
Outstanding interview! Thank you all!
Someone with the proper authority has finally said the words that all of America needed to hear for one reason or another (D or R). Nobody on this planet can argue with these magnificent scholars. NOBODY! And thank you!
@kimbybean001 I agree, but now the magat cult are insisting he hasn't been found guilty of anything. They can't comprehend that his actions should disqualify him. Then once he was found guilty then would pivot to saying he was only found guilty only because of a witch hunt, once not permitted to run, they'd all do write in votes, or they'd off themselves, and trump would be so happy they "loved" him so much. He is an orange scourge that has done so much damage.
How can we all band together to encourage our respective Secretaries of State to disqualify Donald Trump?
because half are cheatin' griftin' "republicans" hellooo
One of the rights protected by the First Amendment is the right of petition.
Flood them with E-mails, tweets, and phone calls in every state. It's call organization! It's what UNIONS DO.
Tell them if they don't uphold the constitution they'll get sued.
We, the PEOPLE, need to pull this together, yesterday!
I feel honored to have seen and heard this discussion. Thank you Judge Luttig, Professor Tribe and Ali Velshi. 👏
RIGHT?? That's exactly what was in the back of my mind for the entire discussion: This is an honor to witness.
I feel honored as well.
DELUSIONAL BUFFOONS - dream on.
So do I
The noble act of both men to work together in this momentous instance is such an admirable act of TRUE PATRIOTISM.
All eyes are on each Secretary of State to follow fully the 14th amendment. And if any do not disqualify those who have attempted insurrection or aided in it, they need to be challenged by us the American people in the courts. This is a wake up call to all of us. Our Founding Father's gave us the tools, but the responsibility is ours. As Ben Franklin said, "A republic, if you can keep it." Let's do the work asap.
Yet you will notice no one has been removed. No one has has a case before the court to do so.
It would require a legal process to remove them once seated, so forget about that happening
Why is there sooooo much talk about this and nothing being done to him. The people in our great nation need to breath again and we cannot do this until this is dealt with.
Ask the Supreme Court why they are so immoral?.
Can't wait to be done with this absurd, bizarre, disturbing chapter of American politics
You & me both! However, if one chooses to learn from it, this is an extremely educational time in our history. We just need to survive it by disqualifying Trump asap!!! That will solve our biggest problem on the spot!!!
@Kwmbee - It's the New Normal, it's not going anywhere!
NOTHING stays the same forever ....
trump going away won’t change anything.
@@georgecarberry9222 It’s the silver lining in this surreal and horrible chapter in American history. People actually started paying attention and have learned more about politics, government, the constitution, the judicial system, and the law. ✌🏼⚖️🇺🇸
Me too!
The people (like these) fighting to save America...are all HEROS!!!!💙💙💙
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@@scabcrawler632derp derp derp 🥴🤣🤣
55% won't understand or watch this and 44% will never believe it. This needs to be put out in an easier format.
@@scabcrawler632English translation FDJT.🖕
@@scabcrawler632 Redhat crybaby
Exactly ,how can Trump even run for president!! ?
Michael: He dares.
This was a great video and very much needed
to be heard 👍👍
Oh it is sooo reassuring to hear there are still sane, intelligent and distinguished people in the US to guard the Constitution. (From abroad)
( or from within ) it is very reassuring indeed .
If you think there is a shortage of “sane and intelligent” people in the US then you have allowed yourself to become a dupe for profit making media, including in your country, who make millions and even billions of dollars by exaggerating the influence of relatively small groups of extremists. The more educated one is of the Constitution and of the government we have in place the less likely is irrational fear of extremists factions. The US is more insulated and protected from such factions than any nation in the world has ever been. But it is a process. Whining and pearl-clutching over who is elected president and why is a distraction in a far greater system of laws. Your comment has illustrated that you and certainly others, without and within, are poorly informed. We are aware that our politics are of great interest to other countries, especially given the immense wealth, influence and military might we wield in the world, but many foreign nationals would do well to mind the many problems in their own countries. We didn’t get to this place in the world by not knowing what we’re doing. L2@OSUlaw
I agree 💯 WITH TEARS. I trust I am not alone.
They are so sane they can't see what Biden has done to America and they keep chasing Trump like blind rats
Barbara: What? Were you not told MAGA are only 26% of the people? They are merely loud, mean, demanding, selfish, and stupid.
If we don't abide by the 14th amendment, there's definitely something wrong with our justice system.
The fact Bidens and Hillary aren't in prison has already proven that.
I agree
Earvetta:Exactly!!!
There is, obviously. The Executive Branch enforces the laws, but if the DoJ, being part of that branch, tried to enforce the 14th Amendment, you'd hear Republicans screaming "WEAPONIZATION!" all the way to China. Biden and Garland have been treating Trump with kid gloves because they don't want even the appearance that they're unfairly trying to disqualify the president's competition. Republicans, of course, accuse them of doing that anyway. If the shoe were on the other foot, a Trump/Barr DoJ would disqualify Biden in a heartbeat and let the chips fall where they may. Democrats are too afraid of doing anything that suggests they're taking anything less than the "high road." They're by far the more decent party, but not nearly tough enough.
There's something seriously wrong with our justice system....regardless.
If Trump is to be held accountable. Then so should so many others
Agreed... Members of Congress also involved in Jan 6 should be next. Those working to undermine Trump's prosecution should similarly be charged with Obstruction of Justice. These LAWMAKERS knew what they were doing was illegal, many requested pardons while Trump was still President; they did it anyway. Lock 'em up!
Chump-45 isn’t alone in all traitor-45 crimes. There are many .
Yes.
Jail him
Great job Professor Tribe and Judge Luttig. Thanks for helping us to know how to save our democracy.Glad to learn about this. Ali great job as always. You need to fill in when all the others are out, better still you need a full program each week day. Secretaries of States get this going to save our democracy, if not we will lose our country to a dictatorship. All networks need to show this three or four times a day. Know Fox and Newsmax will never show this.
We the People should contact our Democratic Reps/Senators, request their help to begin petitions to the Secretary of State to REMOVE TRUMP from the Presidential ticket. They could be instrumental in circulating an online petition, to collect a massive number of signatures. Hand-written petitions could also be used. There is a lot at stake... our Democracy... Smart thinking... We the People need to ACT to protect our Democracy... If it was ever lost, we'd never get it back!
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Und wenn Trump Anhänger zu den Waffen greifen dann müssen sie Sie sich mit dem Militär auseinander setzen das Volk muss vor dem Mopp und diesem Monster Trump geschützt werden .
FINALLY, the 14th Ammendment is being discussed enough to begin to breakthrough the noise.
Thank you, We the Average People of the United States of America are finally being listened to!!! Because this is the way I always thought what Our Constitution was for, to protect the People from a dictatorship in our Country!!!!
By card carrying conservatives no less!
It's about time this is being discussed openly.
This is absolutely of momentous significance, as the judge emphasized, so what do I, as a citizen and legal voter, do in my state to ensure that Trump is not allowed on my state's ballot? Because I think it's important that we do whatever we can to save our country from this criminal maniac.
I’m asking the same thing. I just keep emailing my SOS.
Clearly said! All 50 Secretaries of State should be sent this video!
They wrote an article. Let's hope it is brought to the attention of all of the secretaries of state.
*Indeed. I'm considering sending it to my SoS with a petition saying a suit will be brought if the Constitution is violated.*
Yes. We must get this ball rolling. Now. Today. We all knew after watching January 6. And if Thomas Alioto do not agree and enforce the Constitution - they too should be remove from office.
Let's start demanding responses from our Sec of States and take legal action if they're not on board with the Constitution.
I already sent mine a message of encouragement. 👍
An organization has already sent petitions to Sec of State in 5 states. I cannot remember all 5 but California and Georgia are two of them.
Since when do high ranking government officials actually see or care about your messages or thoughts?
@B_Bodziak - *Do you have a link to these organizations? I'd like to contribute my time to helping. Cheers!*
This is so important and need to be announced everyday, in every outlet. We need to educate the public of the 14th Amendment. The problem is the enforcement of it. Trump is so dangerous to our democracy.
Daisy: Well, did Democrats elect people of sound judgment or cowards too weak to do their jobs?
After you showed your pocket size copy of the constitution you needed to become a US Citizen. I thought that every American should have a copy especially in these times. I googled online and the place to buy a pocket size constitution, the national archives popped up. Think of the irony in regards to the former guy. I ordered a pocket size copy of the constitution which arrived in the mail yesterday. I believe this is the most important document I’ve ever purchased and I believe every one in America should buy a copy.
2016 ran to grift
2024 running to stay out of jail
Well, no wonder Trump wanted to throw out the Constitution. 🔥
Ran in 2020 with the intentions of remaining in power indefinitely.
😂💯
2020 ran to stay out of jail and lost
CONald DUMP 2024…….
2000 years in prison. LOL
A disability not a punishment...that's so nuanced and just took my breath away. Thank you Professor Tribe.
@maryschmidt6128, Actually, I think he misspoke saying "disability" when the Insurrection Act says "disqualified" not disabled. Could be he's right legally, though, I hope he is.
@@mariesmith8454 Well then, a disqualification is not a punishment.
Me too
From a slightly different angle:
Saying that only *_one_* person is crucial for a position in a country with 380 000 000 people is selling the Americans very, very short.
If Trump has valuable insights he can advise the elected president
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Classroom example of Sound Star Spangled Reasoning!
I have been saying all along, that Trump should NOT be on any ballot in America, period…
l belive this sick using our Justice system as a Political weapon
Thank you for this important interview--so clear, so straightforward. It gives me hope.
Judge Luttig, Professor Tribe, Ali Velshi, and MSNBC, I am standing for this: BRAVO! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
And...outgoing President Washington for his foresight!!!!❤
@@jeanniewoelfle834 I believe the 14th Amendment was added immediately after the Civil War so confederates that were rebelling the outcome could not hold office.
I'm an America. Why they dont want him to run if joe going to win easily
Hear hear!!
You are being gas lit on hopium that Trump just goes away because the media told you he is a big meanie. Nvm Biden's cabinet member Susan Rice who "deleted" 800,000 Africans during the Rwanda genocide.
We in Britain are absolutely staggered that it has taken so long to come to what, to us, seems a very obvious conclusion.
We do it differently here. Unfortunately, our constitution doesn't protect The People from presidential demagoguery. We only have the vote.
It's very obvious to all intelligent people.😔✌️
Canadian here, 😊 I’ve been saying it since he announced he was running 🙄. Seems pretty obvious to me!
It's cool that your one sentence still sounded British.
@@pennymccabe6989 I warned all my family and friends. They told me to stop being apocalyptic. I had told them if he got elected , we'd never be the same country again. THIS IS ONE TIME, I don't enjoy being right. 😔
Wouldn't this discussion apply to disqualify the congressmembers who also sided with the insurrection before and after January 6?
Thank you for your valuable information.
Thank you for hosting these two brilliant constitutional scholars, Ali. With primaries coming up early next year, it's time for state leaders to stand up for our Constitution now.
True, but even a citizen can challenge the state leaders; so why don't they?
@@CostanzoFerraro I believe that there are petitions to secretaries of state in several states. Worth checking out in your state.
(psst: "hanging chad" look it up
I have said it before and I will say this again!
As a Veteran I once took and Oath that in Part said "I will Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States of America from ALL Enemies, Both Foreign and Domestic!" I served my time Honorably and moved on but the one thing I have NEVER (Nor Will I ever do so!) Relinquished is this part of that Oath that I took,
IMHO any Veteran or or any Politician who also took the same oath and has waffled/reneged/disregarded it have no respect
for that oath and or the Laws of our Great Nation, for Nobody is ABOVE THE LAW!
@@jorgegonzalez-larramendi5491 Meaning of deflection in English - Cambridge Dictionary
Deflection is a psychological coping mechanism. This behaviour involves moving attention away from an uncomfortable situation to something else.
I've been screaming disqualification for years now!!! I just hope these politicians will enforce the laws????
i have too. all to no end. i dont know where all the spines have wandered off too.
YES! It's beyond overdue!!
They have no choice, put this information out there for the ppl to understand, and let the people vote.
AND NO MORE EXCUSES!
@@brianreber8842 I guess the GOP underestimated DJT again and didn't think he'd have a chance of winning the primary yet here we are...
@@gailflanagan1214 You may be right. They are idiots.
It is brilliant and Is exactly why this segment needs wider distribution. The forefathers were indeed very wise. Where does it go from here?
It goes nowhere.
These two would be destroyed in a debate.
They aren't that bright.
I'm quite moved and humbled by listening to these to men, Judge Luttig and Professor Tribe. These men should not be taken for granted. This is the kind of intellectual horsepower that it will take to hold our Country and Constitution together.
Thank God for these sound men.
Exactly - serious, weighty, connected people CAN and SHOULD save the country from Trump and his congressional cronies. Thankfully, it seems THEY ARE (!) on the job. Along with a newly engaged Federalist Society - on the job! Bone Spurs couldnt fight in Vietnam, and Chief Insurrection can't lead the USA!
That is the way true humility expresses itself with zero ego in the way. Theodore Sanders and David Boeis came together to make certain that equal meant EQUAL ... in the CA case. Suddenly our LGBTQ...friends can now marry!! It took men from opposite political parties to show up and show everyone who is right.
What constitution? What about the democrats changing the constitution to allow unconstitutional taxes, the democrats daily violating freedom of speech or religious rights, or democrats changing state constitutions last minute to allow election fraud and interference and now saying Trump did it...
Everything they say Trump has done, they are doing themselves.🙄 They didn't codify abortion for reason.
It's one big party and we're not invited.
Yes. Yes indeed.
Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington: (CREW) is an organization based in D.C. that filed a case last year in New Mexico to remove a local office holder on the same grounds, and they won! As a result of that victory and the recent supporting legal papers, they (CREW) will be filing suits in various state courts to keep Trump off the ballot. They expect this test case to be taken all the way to the Supreme Court, as these two guys predict. So, you might want to do two things, one, donate to C.R.E.W. to aid their efforts, and two . . . Stay tuned!
Thanks for the info Wendell!
Excellent!
Anything that goes to the not so supreme court with all of the bought and sold judges on the benches is as good as a rock floating on water. 🤬
Waste of time and money fool.
@@johndillon1299we'll see about that bozo 🤡
OMG...such an educational MSNBC piece . Thank you!!!
I simply cannot believe we allowed our political landscape to be poisoned by Donald Trump. Please, young voters, help us. All of you.
trump...the next president of this great country...trump 2024
I'm pretty sure the Secretary Of State in Colorado is ready to use the 14th amendment for Trump. She has been dealing with all kinds of problems because of Trump. 👍😎🇺🇲
"for" Trump? Did you mean that?
I believe the one in Arizona as well as GA to.
i don't understand : There is only ONE 14th amendment. Not one in Georgia and another in Colorado...@@ellenpolite3673
Come-on Wisconsin Sec.
Of State. LEAD THE WAY
DISQUALIFY Trump from being on our state ballot.
I'm in WI and would support eliminating DJT from all ballots.
@@janmorgan8293 ditto here. I am planning to email her office.
That could be Sarah’s legacy.
@@janmorgan8293do you promise I will send down Ari and you can tell everyone that they have you're permission thank you so much for being such a warrior for democracy
@@barbaraburbey7654ditto that's what I'm talking about hurry up and get that email in surely this won't fail the fonz would be so proud happy day's are here again bidennomics and ten million new illegal immigrants what could be better
Such an honour to here from 2 highly skilled scholars!!!!
We obviously need to reenforce the mental health screening and treatments in this country, politicians included.
Trump’s “Inaction” Spoke Volumes to me…He did nothing to stop the violence that was taking place before all our eyes.
Bravo Gentlemen and Thank You for your reporting⚖️
Inaction can be readily evaulated as passive aiding and abetting those who were violent and violating .
I wonder what his game plan was should the insurrectionist had captured
Pence ?
why aren't states already invoking the 14th amendment?
The Federalist Society wants Trump off the ballot. They are all arch conservative republicans.
Because we are doing the 25th against biden😂
because no one has pushed the issue AND it will end up in court. The Blue states do not want to give red states the power to remove people without courts overseeing it, and the red states are to scared that if they push it that trumpy will get mad and they will lose elections.
There are online petitions for your secretary of state to invoke just that.
Because they can't.
Think for a second. Luttic & Tribe make their case based on the Constitution. It's not political consideration... but a Constitutional provision... that takes precedent.
Thank you, Ali Velshi ❤
"He stated he would terminate the constitution if necessary. How can he then take an oath to uphold it." That's the rub folks.
No he is disqualified it has nothing to do with rubbing unpleasantly!!!
He wants to rewrite the constitution to favor him in his quest for dictatorship
Wow. Thank you for having these distinguished gentleman on the show to answer the big question so many of have asked. And thank you so much, gentlemen for putting your conclusions in print, in the press!
I think you mistook the word distinguished for disgusting.
@@blainejohnson1632 aww are your maga feelings hurt buttercup
❤Amazing insight from these two fine scholars, Ali Velshi! Thank you 4 this diacussion!❤
Would the lawsuits from citizens against Secretaries of States have to be after he has the nomination or could they be before? No harm has occurred before he has the nomination so would the lawsuits just be dismissed?
First of all, you can't just go into a court house and file a lawsuit, because you don't want Trump to be elected. Judges and court houses are not the place for MSNBC media games. ie they'll punish you for not standing up when the judge walks in the court room. Never call a judge you or yo, do not ask a question before being given permission to do so, etc......You'll be better off staying home and watching CNN
Thank you for this interview, the American public thanks you.
I'm sure The Right doesn't. Aren't they part of The American Public too?
For Communists to take over ; are you stupid or what !!!!
Except, that gets seen by few and close to zero by anyone on the conservative spectrum. It isn't as if the two will make an appearance on Fox.
@@bambesfresser And will CNN or MSNBC put on ANYTHING critical of the Biden's?
@@Reaper-cm4jr Never a good response if all you have to offer is a deflection. Sure, CNN isn't going after Biden but at least you can find some semi-critical articles. But look at CNN and compare it to Fox. One at least has the semblance of a news site while the other one is a tabloid.
Thank you Ali for bringing these two giant legal minds to share their legal assessments. It truly is an honor. Thank you Professor Laurence Tribe and judge Michael Luttig.
One and an eighth
Dare to elaborate?@@orchunter8388
Thank you for saying that better than I did! 👍
Spot on. Brilliance from the 2 scholars. The commentator is always willing to show proper perspective as well. I deeply respect and admire all three of you gentlemen. Thank you.
Agreed ~ Thank you!
Nice job explaining this to us.
Please bring these 2 scholars back as they are so invaluable
More than half of this country needs to hear this discussion and propably would if Fox played it too! It should definitely be mandatory listening for all Congress and the Senate.
Fox News says the word Biden a 1000 times a day. It's like Trump doesn't exist....oh wouldn't that be nice if it were true.
AMEN
They don't care. They only want power.
on fox? not a chance.
they wouldn't understand it. I bet you they've never heard of the constitution.
Everyone who values the Constitution and believes that it should be upheld at all times, should vehemently insist upon Trump being disqualified from holding any office, anywhere, every again.
1st amendment still part of constitution?
I value the Constitution, which is why I will not support a candidate being blocked from running because the government said so.
Wow, your ignorant. So, I say I'm going to rob a bank and then do it. Oh, I'm protected by the 1st amendment. You are less than a snails pace with your processing. @@xavierb9061
@@xavierb9061does the first amendment allow you to threaten people and their children. Takes a very sick person to threaten children.
@@stoopidpursun8140The government did not say so. It is stated in the Constitution. Did you even read it? Can you really value something that you have never read?
Excellent conversation... Velshi has excellent questions...
Why hasn't this been brought before the courts ? This should be foremost on the legal docket. Trump can not be allowed to run.
I have 4 combat tours, and I have tears in my eyes listening to this great human beings
Awh thank you so much sir for your service. This is great news!
You gave all that you could in the service of your country and Judge Luttig and Prof Tribe now do their duty with what they have.
We have to encourage our secretaries of States to do the right thing💙🦋🇺🇲
WE WE WE WE WE are words on a website!
No one is doing it!
You mean "We the people" ?
@@rgruenhaus speak for yourself I called the secretary of state in my state and gave my opinion. Do the same .
YES! I want to say: "All you "Patriots", who enshrine your "Right to Bear Arms" and "Free Speech" in the Constitution... The Constitution also BARS Donald Trump from being able to run again. Where you MAGAts at? QQQQ hypocrites!" (Count the Q's)...
Like not changing election laws, only the state legislature can.
Does this clause apply to any other public officers, such as members of congress? Or is this only applicable to the president?
Excellent broadcast! Absolutely excellent!
Thank you Judge Luttig, Professor Tribe and Ali Velshi for putting this together, let us citizens if we can help push this in to successfully making him disqualified!!
We The People move to kick Donald J Trump to the curb.
'Insurrection' is the key word. There was no insurrection. Hence, the whole 14th amendment argument fails. The Dems like to turn everything around backwards. Reality - The 2020 election was rigged. Biden was installed, not elected. Under Biden, the FBI and DOJ have gone rogue, completely politicized. Our government has been hijacked by a gang of crooks. Fake News folks try to tell us something else is happening.
The 14th Amendment section 3 is "self executing." Not a punishment but a disability. All state secretaries take note.
Thank you, for speaking on issue and not on political beliefs.
Well, no wonder Trump wanted to throw out the Constitution. 🔥
OK rachel
Okay Nancy.@@scabcrawler632
@@scabcrawler632 i think ur mommy is callin u u sound grumpy naptime?
Yes he's scared to death of our constitution!!!
False information. Read the Truth again
THANK S TO EACH OF YOU 3 !!!
Start with Georgia. They should disqualify him from being on the ballot in Georgia.
Soros Da's will be impeached. Cry
Seems obvious
Yes, states rights! Keep him off the ballot. Let the Repubs sue, and it will be tested in the courts. We will read in court what the Constitution actually says and will need to abide by it because it's the law of the land!
Sounds like a job for Stacy Abrams. Someone call her.
Because they know he won Georgia. Just give it up already. We know dems cheated.
Even if D.T. could win enough popular votes, it would not matter because he is disqualified by the Constitution. Most sincere thanks for explaining this wonderful truth.
As a last resort, could the Vice President reject any electoral votes for Dump based in the 14th amendment?
Another case closed the world would be a lot harder place to live without MSNBC,if Trump just watched this I'm sure he's already preparing his speech to the nation that he can't be president now and Rachel Maddow isn't a hypocrite
@@snaplash no, the vice president's role is ceremonial. Remember Mike Pence?
@@TDS_ExistMaga4ever your ignorance is duly noted
These men are the definition of patriotism. I admire them for speaking out and explaining the 14th Amendment to those who do not have a legal background in an understandable manner!
Thank you for the update.
I’m a democrat but I greatly admire Judge Luttig, who is a republican. When he says that trump is dangerous, we better believe him. I have so much respect for Professor Tribe. Together, these two men have so much knowledge about the law.
I still wonder at the great difference, it wouldve done on the Supreme Court, if Bush43, when he was down to choosing between Alito and Judge Luttig, had for once made the right choice.
@@dfuher968Exactly- Alito is a right wing hack- along with Thomas.
Lurtig is a RINO and is peddling lies.
I find his arguments more compelling BECAUSE he is a Republican.
Taking an oath to uphold the CONSTITUTION of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has nothing to do with being a Democrat or a republican nor independent. To be duly elected public servent one must take an oath to uphold and operate within the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA REGARDLESS OF THE PARTY.